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[Q] Best Non-Market apps...

So when I first got the captivate I was disappointed that my buddy with the incredible could side-load apps and I could not... So what did I do? I rooted it and enabled side-loading... now that was over a month or more ago and I have yet to install one non-market app... What are you guys using for apps that are not on the market?

MiKandi, for the gay porn.
Seriously though, I don't think most people sideload non-market apps, or at least I haven't really found anything worthwhile outside of the market, especially since the captivate comes with Swype pre-installed. I've sideloaded some beta software that isn't found in the market, like firefox mobile, and some other stuff that disappeared from the market after my 2.2 upgrade (new york times mobile), but none of them are must-have apps. Most of the sideloading I do is just to test my own programs, since the sdk's simulator runs slow on my computer. It's nice to have the option though, even if you don't currently need it.
Also, if I remember right, some game companies don't sell their stuff on the market, like assassin's creed and whatnot. I'd imagine you'd have to be able to install non-market apps to install those.

nfl moble from verizon

1. Fancy Widget
2. DropBox (working non-market version1003)
3. QIK 0.3.74 (working video chat 3g/wifi)
4. Glyder2 (is it market yet?)
5. StarWars Live Wallpapers

Don't tell people how to get warez on XDA.

All the gameloft games: NOVA, Sandstorm, hero of sparta, dungeon hunter, etc

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NFL app
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aknitter1 said:
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That supports android development how?
From a phone on an app

boborone said:
That supports android development how?
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I'm more likely to buy an app if I can try it first, but let's just ignore the grey area in favor of your simplistic, black and white worldview. Piracy bad!

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I'm more likely to buy an app if I can try it first, but let's just ignore the grey area in favor of your simplistic, black and white worldview. Piracy bad!
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err, your logic is entirely flawed just fyi. if you knew anything about the android market, you'd know you have up to 24 hours after purchasing an app to refund and uninstall it. so you saying "I search for apps so I can try them before I purchase them" is, at best, ridiculously misinformed.
do the right thing and buy the app, if it isn't to your liking, refund it. on any other platform, where this process doesn't exist, I'd give you a break. but android specifically has this setup to avoid exactly what you're saying you do.
edit: should add that the main benefit of enabling sideloading for me is restoring apps through titanium backup after reflashing my phone.

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err, your logic is entirely flawed just fyi. if you knew anything about the android market, you'd know you have up to 24 hours after purchasing an app to refund and uninstall it. so you saying "I search for apps so I can try them before I purchase them" is, at best, ridiculously misinformed.
do the right thing and buy the app, if it isn't to your liking, refund it. on any other platform, where this process doesn't exist, I'd give you a break. but android specifically has this setup to avoid exactly what you're saying you do.
edit: should add that the main benefit of enabling sideloading for me is restoring apps through titanium backup after reflashing my phone.
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Please highlight the sentence where I said anything close to "I pirate apps." I'll wait...
Seriously, you're putting words in my mouth. But for the sake of argument, I'll add that sometimes 24 hours just isn't enough time to determine whether an expensive app like Doggcatcher (a $7 podcast app) is the best available option. I need time to see how it works in different situations, ie how well it streams while I'm at work vs my house, bluetooth vs line-out, how it reacts to different roms, etc. I was forced to take a gamble and buy the app without testing it in every situation I encounter.
If you read my actual statement rather than simply making up your own, you'd see that all I was saying is that there's a gray area. It's more complicated than piracy bad, riaa good.

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Tunee music. But I think I saw in the market now. I used it for a couple songs then thought to myself "self this can't be legal" downloading almost any song you can think of to your phone for free... "self, maybe the record companies made tunee music so they can get richer off poor people that download music for free"
So I do NOT want to be like the lady that downloaded 24 songs and now has to pay something like 1.5 million dollars now. So bye bye it went. I dont have a spare 1.5 mill
But it is a cool app. I originally had to.sideload it. Got it from tuneemusic.net Again I think I saw it.in the market.now.
EDIT:Yep.it is the market now. Just searched for it but DIDNT download
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I like that I can now go to the Science Fiction book publisher's web site direct and download the older stuff for free or get the new stuff at a discount. They even offer ARCs (advance reader copy) of books 6 months before release date. HTTP://WWW.baen.com
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I like that I can now go to the Science Fiction book publisher's web site direct and download the older stuff for free or get the new stuff at a discount. They even offer ARCs (advance reader copy) of books 6 months before release date. <url omitted>
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I wasn't aware of this site. What reader software and download format do you use?

sextonma said:
I wasn't aware of this site. What reader software and download format do you use?
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When I was on WM6.1 I was using .lit files and Microsoft Reader. At least it remembered what page I am on.
Now I use WordPlayer app to read ePub format. www.Baen.com remembers what books you ever got and I can always re-download those in ePub format. WordPlayer will also "talk" to Calibre Library (Free & runs on your "big" computer). Calibre will convert any format eBook to any format. Calibre will also act as a Reader on your desktop. You will eventually move all eBooks into it.
I end up using WordPlayer setup with a black screen (less power) and white letters. Dim or brightning as needed.
Understand that by giving away the first books in a series (or older books) by their top Authors, Baen is like a Drug Dealer giving you a Free Taste!

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Amazon AppStore.

I just wanted to say that the Amazon App Store is a really nice alternative to the Android Market. With honeycomb finally get to see new apps. Angry Birds Rio is really nice, and nows its free today for the ad free version.

sal_shawn said:
I just wanted to say that the Amazon App Store is a really nice alternative to the Android Market. With honeycomb finally get to see new apps. Angry Birds Rio is really nice, and nows its free today for the ad free version.
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Can someone explain to me the logic in having another place to get apps outside of the Google Market that benefits consumers? So I get Angry Birds Rio because it is exclusive however, if I remove the Amazon market app it stops working. Why? And all the other apps I checked are already available in the Google Market. So why do I need to use the Amazon Appstore other than exclusive content which in my opinion if fragmenting the available apps?

keitht said:
Can someone explain to me the logic in having another place to get apps outside of the Google Market that benefits consumers? So I get Angry Birds Rio because it is exclusive however, if I remove the Amazon market app it stops working. Why? And all the other apps I checked are already available in the Google Market. So why do I need to use the Amazon Appstore other than exclusive content which in my opinion if fragmenting the available apps?
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Different features in the actual marketplace; different payment processor (Amazon, which I use extensively, has all my payment information but I do not use Google Checkout); different prices and yes, a different selection. Amazon and other app stores can offer additional features to developers like the DRM you are complaining about which will lead to fragmentation that may or may not be a good thing (time will tell). Who knows, maybe there will be a prime-esque subscription service at some point. Best Buy may sell the same games as Gamestop, but I'm glad I have the choice to never shop at the latter.

sangreal06 said:
Different features in the actual marketplace; different payment processor (Amazon, which I use extensively, has all my payment information but I do not use Google Checkout); different prices and yes, a different selection. Amazon and other app stores can offer additional features to developers like the DRM you are complaining about which will lead to fragmentation that may or may not be a good thing (time will tell). Who knows, maybe there will be a prime-esque subscription service at some point. Best Buy may sell the same games as Gamestop, but I'm glad I have the choice to never shop at the latter.
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I am all about choice but having multiple places to search is not a positive feature in my opinion. Will we have 10 other app stores pop up next week? Not very appealing in my opinion.

keitht said:
Can someone explain to me the logic in having another place to get apps outside of the Google Market that benefits consumers? So I get Angry Birds Rio because it is exclusive however, if I remove the Amazon market app it stops working. Why? And all the other apps I checked are already available in the Google Market. So why do I need to use the Amazon Appstore other than exclusive content which in my opinion if fragmenting the available apps?
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Well I just like the ability to see all the new released apps. In Google's market for the Xoom all you can see is the featured and top apps.

keitht said:
I am all about choice but having multiple places to search is not a positive feature in my opinion. Will we have 10 other app stores pop up next week? Not very appealing in my opinion.
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I can see you concern but I do not see how that is any different from other shopping experiences. I prefer Amazon's search/sorting capabilities from my brief look earlier. I'm sure eventually there will be apps to search any and all available app stores.

sal_shawn said:
Well I just like the ability to see all the new released apps. In Google's market for the Xoom all you can see is the featured and top apps.
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That is an issue that Google can resolve. You get 10 other companies providing an app store, how is that helping? You then have to do the same search 10 times.

keitht said:
That is an issue that Google can resolve. You get 10 other companies providing an app store, how is that helping? You then have to do the same search 10 times.
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I see your point. I agree I would prefer one place to get my apps. But right now when I just go browsing for apps amazon is alot easier.

This has to be one of the biggest blunders I have ever seen with Android yet. Most of the Amazon market is filled with apps that are already available in the Google Market. The only app I have seen so far that is not available is Angry Birds Rio. And if you do not install or have removed the Amazon appstore app, you cannot even run it. Does that sound like the same issue with DRM protected music?
And what allows Amazon to create their own app store? Is it easy for 20, 30, 100 others to start their own store with mostly the same apps with their own rules? This does not look good. Who wants to search 100 stores for apps to find what they are looking for and on top of that, have different rules. This has to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen since owning an Android device and is doomed for failure.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Let market forces determine things. If 10 app stores popped out tomorrow I guarantee most would not succeed. As it is there are several alternative app stores for android already, and they have not caused any problems. Competition is ALLWAYS a good thing, even for our beloved google. Same reason I am happy that apple is constantly pushing on android and vice-versa. Competition is the underlying rationale for using Android for me.

keitht said:
This has to be one of the biggest blunders I have ever seen with Android yet. Most of the Amazon market is filled with apps that are already available in the Google Market. The only app I have seen so far that is not available is Angry Birds Rio. And if you do not install or have removed the Amazon appstore app, you cannot even run it. Does that sound like the same issue with DRM protected music?
And what allows Amazon to create their own app store? Is it easy for 20, 30, 100 others to start their own store with mostly the same apps with their own rules? This does not look good. Who wants to search 100 stores for apps to find what they are looking for and on top of that, have different rules. This has to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen since owning an Android device and is doomed for failure.
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So on your PC, you would rather have one single source for all your software? You don't comparison shop, buy from different vendors, directly from developers? The app concept and having it all in one place is a convenience, thats it. Its like saying you should not open up a Target because your town already has a Wall-Mart or something...

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So on your PC, you would rather have one single source for all your software? You don't comparison shop, buy from different vendors, directly from developers? The app concept and having it all in one place is a convenience, thats it. Its like saying you should not open up a Target because your town already has a Wall-Mart or something...
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This is not my PC. You go to Amazon store and you see the same apps available in the Google Market. You think the average consumer wants to search multiple markets for an app? I know I don't. And the same app works from Google market and not from another app store because their appstore app is not installed? You think this is a good user experience? I don't. Do not compare to PC experience because the Android tablet experience is based on competition from Apple iPad not from a PC experience. This will be a disaster in a year from now where iPad users can search one location for all their app needs and Android tablet users will need to search 100+ for theirs. There is no reason why these apps cannot be in one location.

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There is no reason why these apps cannot be in one location.
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But there is a reason... different terms and features for developers.

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But there is a reason... different terms and features for developers.
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And what specifically are those?

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This is not my PC. You go to Amazon store and you see the same apps available in the Google Market. You think the average consumer wants to search multiple markets for an app? I know I don't. And the same app works from Google market and not from another app store because their appstore app is not installed? You think this is a good user experience? I don't. Do not compare to PC experience because the Android tablet experience is based on competition from Apple iPad not from a PC experience. This will be a disaster in a year from now where iPad users can search one location for all their app needs and Android tablet users will need to search 100+ for theirs. There is no reason why these apps cannot be in one location.
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haha i don't want to get a back and forth going here, but really, just don't use the amazon app store and all will be ok. not to overblow the analogy, but two supermarkets usually carry 99% of the same things, doesn't mean you should get rid of one or preclude new ones from opening up.
i realize that apple people have their walled garden with their false sense of security and limited options, but take music purchases as an example: i can either say, buy all my music from iTunes like most Apple people do, or i can do what i do, which is source it from eMusic, Amazon MP3, directly from the artists, etc, all of which i am able to do from both my galaxy s or my xoom, and all of which i am able to do for less money than if i just bought everything from iTunes. oh and since the artists usually get a better deal if i avoid the iTunes store i know more of my money is going directly to them. same thing applies to app stores. its not really all that complicated, i mean, how lazy have we gotten if we can't be bothered to look for things on more than one app store?
as far as the drm deal where apps won't work without amazon appstore, i am not crazy about it, and if that is the case, i would definitely think twice before buying anything from them. maybe some content providers will insist on using amazon's system, but if the terms are that restrictive i'll just take my money elsewhere.

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haha i don't want to get a back and forth going here, but really, just don't use the amazon app store and all will be ok. not to overblow the analogy, but two supermarkets usually carry 99% of the same things, doesn't mean you should get rid of one or preclude new ones from opening up.
i realize that apple people have their walled garden with their false sense of security and limited options, but take music purchases as an example: i can either say, buy all my music from iTunes like most Apple people do, or i can do what i do, which is source it from eMusic, Amazon MP3, directly from the artists, etc, all of which i am able to do from both my galaxy s or my xoom, and all of which i am able to do for less money than if i just bought everything from iTunes. oh and since the artists usually get a better deal if i avoid the iTunes store i know more of my money is going directly to them. same thing applies to app stores. its not really all that complicated, i mean, how lazy have we gotten if we can't be bothered to look for things on more than one app store?
as far as the drm deal where apps won't work without amazon appstore, i am not crazy about it, and if that is the case, i would definitely think twice before buying anything from them. maybe some content providers will insist on using amazon's system, but if the terms are that restrictive i'll just take my money elsewhere.
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Listen, I do not want back and forth either. I want to understand the reasoning behind having another place to get apps. If there is a restriction or process that does not work posting the same app to the Google market, what is it? Why is another market or appstore needed other than money to Amazon? I don't get it.

Why would developers choose to use the Amazon store over the Google Market? Can someone answer that please with specifics? Is this a takeover of the Google market?

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Why would developers choose to use the Amazon store over the Google Market? Can someone answer that please with specifics?
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The only reason i could think of would be different methods of payment. What forms of payments do they both use? Actually another reason could be the amazon one may also allow "banned" software, as the market is run by google.

keitht said:
Why would developers choose to use the Amazon store over the Google Market? Can someone answer that please with specifics? Is this a takeover of the Google market?
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Right now? I do not know as I am not familiar with the policies of them both. However, as we have seen with the Apple App Store there have been many rules which have upset developers over time. Some of those are directly tied to how much money a developer can make off their app. For example, if Google were to mandate something similar to Apple's new subscription model I imagine many developers would like an alternative.
From a user perspective, having competing promotions like Amazon's free paid-app every day is nice

I agree that it can be a hassle to look for things in different stores but it is for the best. Its the universal rule of conservation if you will. The Amazon Appstore with bring competition to Google forcing google to step up its game if does not want to loose customers. For example Amazon will have a free paid app per day, maybe that will move google to do the same or top that. Amazon will test each app first to make sure it is not malicious and even though it will never be perfect maybe that will move google to do something similar. Amazon has worked out deals with developers in regards to the checkout process which may lead some developers that before only sold their apps from their own website to put them in the appstore (Gameloft). Also this has led some developers to drop their prices at the Amazon Appstore.
I understand not everyone thinks this is for the best or that its too much of a hassle but when you think of things from a perspective of growth and innovation it seems to be good.
In regards to the DRM content it is one of those things that are just tough to deal with sure we can try to avoid everything that has DRM but that is why Netflix and Hulu have not been supported thus far.
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Zinio now avail in the Market

as the title says, even have access to magazines that I couldn't use with the Galaxy Tab version. Download and signup before 15th June and get some free magazines.
Enjoy
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This will be a solid app after a few more updates. Runs fairly slow and feels clunky. I am sure it will get there though. Can't wait!
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Finally! geeez

Been waiting for this! Awesome sauce!

I've been waiting for this thing to come out since I got my XOOM and was pretty excited yesterday. However I must agree it does seem pretty slow. It took way to long to download 1 magazine and I even had problems with pages never becoming clear until after I skipped a page or 2 then went back. Overall I still love it, when the pages are clear they are more crisp and clean than nook or kindles magazines and the obvious fact there are a lot more magazines to choose from.
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Downloaded ist on my stock xoom yesterday. It sluggish atm and the interactive parts of national geographic arent working. And I cant find the free magazine issues. Are they only available for Us customers?

raix said:
Downloaded ist on my stock xoom yesterday. It sluggish atm and the interactive parts of national geographic arent working. And I cant find the free magazine issues. Are they only available for Us customers?
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I did get the free magazine's and I'm in EU, but i have a US Xoom.

Can you describe where they are located in the store?

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they are not in store. They all appear at the first time you open app

Peggle for Android is finally here

I don't always keep the best track of stuff, but when I woke up I found an email saying that today Peggle was free for download. I went to the page then tried to "buy it" via the amazon appstore app on my coom and got an incompatible error. But, I didn't give up, no, I just "bought it" from the site and when it showed up in the download area on my amazon appstore app I downloaded it and it installed and is working as well as plants vs zombies on my Xoom.

I can confirm that the method OP used, does in fact work. Was getting the same incompatible device message, and getting it through the website worked. Was able to "buy" Peggle and then it showed up in the downloads on my Xoom.

Not available in the Market?

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Not available in the Market?
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Not as of now. For now it is sadly only Amazon appstore exclusive.

Thanks, work for me to (purchase from the web and install from the amazon app)!

Where do you purchase from the web? What's the website.

I must be spoiled because I'm already craving a THD version. Looks too blurry to me

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I must be spoiled because I'm already craving a THD version. Looks too blurry to me
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I wouldn't mind a THD version, but to be the graphics are good enough expecially for a game I got for free, but to be honest I am hoping they just update like the maker of angry birds did instead of us having to "buy" the game again...
Actually, to be honest I find this to have better graphics then PvZ which is odd bc Amazon said that PvZ was good with Tabllets and that Peggle wasn't

PVZ graphics are way better. At least the version I have. The game is fun though. Thanks OP for the trick to make WIFI downloads work. The game is fun and takes me back to my Shenmue days when I would spend a lot of time playing a similar game.

I was able to install from the appstore app on xoom just by trying a few times. Works perfectly.

Amazon Appstore app

I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.

I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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If it's being blocked I might return my Nexus 7. It would suck that they would only let you buy apps from them.

chisaki said:
I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
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Not true it's working for me. Go to Amazon& request a new link to be sent to your email.
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Thats strange, i was able to do it on my N7. Maybe a reboot of some sort?

Works fine here. Go into Setting>Security and check Allow unknown sources. Go to Amazon web site and follow instructions to download and install. Did that to download an older version of a zombie killing game that works on N7.

Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.

Try rebooting it then re-installing.

If you're installing it from a previous backup from another device, it most likely won't work (not assuming you are, but just in case...) Like the others said, go to Amazon and get it directly and you should have no problem.

What worked for me was clicking the link for tablets. It says something like "no email or phone number, click here" and that downloaded the APK directly into my system download folder. From there it installed just fine. I had to do this to get it on my Google TV also. It seems to bypass some sort of test since the Google TV isn't officially compatible with it.

I just worked with an Amazon tech, got it to install using by going to this like in the browser on the N7.
http://www.amazon.com/app-email
Works fine now.

Mine installed fine. I used the APK from my phone. Got a bunch of the nicer FAOTD apps working perfectly too.

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Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
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Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?

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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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Bugger the Apps they get games too. Of course only if you're from a certain country.

Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens

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Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.

mtfsandlin said:
Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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When it first came out, it was great. Now, the free app is usually a very crappy game. In the past, I got:
Fancy Widgets Pro, Weatherbug Elite, Thumb Keyboard, App 2 SD Pro, Moon Phase Pro, Quickoffice Pro, SoundHound Infinity, Shazam, SwiftKey 3, and several other good ones.

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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
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1. I've never once gotten malware and I always sideload apps. I always leave that setting unticked as do most folks I'm sure.
2. having Amazon app store or any other app store doesn't change your default android Google play store.
You want malware, go download Blackmarket apps or pirate stuff, you'll get it then. I do suggest tho, that everyone should install a malware scanner. Avast, lookout, etc.

CrazyPeter said:
I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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What? Side loading doesn't put you at any greater risk of malware. You always choose to install an app, whether you side loaded it or not.
Nothing wrong or risky with downloading the Amazon app store, being able to choose a different app store is one of the best things about android. CHOICE.
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