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capacitive pens are almost useless!

At least the two i got from ebay are! makes using some apps and stuff almost unusable, scrolling is almost impossible. I have a screen protector fitted but everything is smooth with my finger.
Anyone else have any experience with using pens?

yeah it works kind of okay when pressing (however you have to press hard sometimes.. also scrolling is indeed impossible. i bought those pens so i could play cryonphysics better but thats a no go
so i wouldnt buy stylus's for scrolling.. or maybe the expensive one's work better? i bought cheap ones from ebay.

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I haven't heard of any that work very good at all! Would be interested if someone finds 1 that really works decent,, Thanks,,,Quig

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.

madmackem said:
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£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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Those ones are a joke as well, barely even works.

i think our device is designed for our fingers
sense is fingerfriendly, even windows explorer can be used with fingers...thanks to our huge screen
so why buying such a crap?
if there's no "cartridge" to put it in, i won't buy it
DN41

madmackem said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=193951
£17 for a piece of plastic is just a joke!
Has anyone got one of these and does it work as well as a finger? needs to be accurate too.
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I have it, it has a plus and a downside. The downside is that scrollng is almost impossible therefore you still need to use your finger. The plus side is that the precission is astonishing. The little red dot does the job you want. You can click on listed links while browsing without zooming in and without selecting the link next to it.
Still it is not worth the 17 pounds.
Also these styli ARE Dagi styli http://www.dagi.com.tw/, since I bought one of these aswell to compare.
They are exactly the same. Same weight, material, length/width/depth etc.
So if you want to buy one. Dagi sells them for around 12 USD a piece.
I'm not able to post any pictures atm, since I'm not at home. If I am I will.

Stylus pens
No pen works very well on the HD2, so do not waste any money on buying one.
The only time you may need a pen, is if you work with gloves on, or wear gloves due to extreme cold weather and do not want to take your gloves off.
I have tried most of them as I spend a lot of time in a walk in freezer. The HTC is no better than the dagi or the cheaper versions from China sold on ebay.

I saw a video somewhere on youtube if im not wrong, it shows how you can make cheap pen for capacitive screens. You have to use and old normal pen, some wire and some conductive foam and it worked fine on the video.
Edit: I found youtube link , here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smBOaEP3ut8
Maby it will help someone who need a stylus for hd2.
Best regards. Gjizaqin

It may have to do with hardware evidenced by tests like this one. The HD2's digitizer just isn't designed to be written on in terms of polling rate and sensitivity, so it may not completely be the fault of the pens.

try a sausage... they work well, i am not joking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObqu5CigcU&feature=related
at least its cheap...

There is a cheap stylus that works!!!
I'm not gonna recommend any particular ebay trader over any other, but I've tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
There's the HTC one with the funny flat clear plastic 'blade' thingie with the dot in the middle of the flat 'blade' to line up the bit you want to interact with. They work, but they are awful (sorry HTC, it's true, patent or no they are still awful!). And way over the top pricing! WAY over the top! C'mon HTC!
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
All those hard rubber tipped stylus out there? Junk. All those foam tipped stylus out there? More junk. Pretty looking, in fashion colours, but junk none-the-less!
This is not a paid advert for anybody whatsoever - just my experience from my extensive junk stylus collection... Must find some creative use for them all...
KennyD

I got some off ebay a while back.
Didn't work very well, at all.
Had it bookmarked but link is gone.
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kennydadsl said:
tried almost all the supposed capacitive styluses (stylii?) out there and found only two that actually work.
And then there's this one: ://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-x-Capacitive-Stylus-HTC-DESIRE-01-Silver-/110537325379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc89bb43
(and here's where the bit about "any particular trader" comes into it - though the trade with me was just fine). Damn cheap, three to a pack and they actually work. No, seriously, I mean it - they work!
They have a kind of soft blobby rubber bit on the end (much like smooth squash ball material, I guess) that is soft to touch the screen and very accurate and it actually registers every press! Unlike all the other styluses (stylii?) out there, screen touches from this one are actually registered!
And if I need to slide the stylus across the screen, I rub a touch of nose oil (from the OUTSIDE of my nose!) onto the tip. This may just be needed because the screen protector I use is fairly 'grippy', though - it might not have the slide problems used directly onto the glass screen. I usually just use my finger for the sliding bit and the stylus for everything else.
KennyD
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Thanks Kenny,
Your feedback is really appreciated!

capacitive pens
I have the one made by Pogo that isn't too bad. It You can do a certain amount of scrolling with it but nothing beats the finger!

HD2 Stylus

has anybody purchased the HD2 stylus yet? the screen may be huge, but I miss using a stylus for texting. I have read really bad reviews, but I do want one.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=83E47B82-89E5-4C33-95D5-84F7AE3C3F50

Ordered These
I ordered these, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...849513&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2824wt_911 and will let y'all know how they work. Even if they don't, they were only $4.

i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.

steve austin said:
i have tried 4 different types of capacitive stylus for the hd2. the only one that works is the htc knockof by Dagi. The product is solid, BUT you have to place the pen end on the hd2 screen at a particular angle every time to get it to work. I swear somtimes they make things harder than they have to be. The pen point is not a point at all. It is a clear plastic circle with a dot in the middle. You have to handle it with extreme care because it can easly snap off and there goes 20 bucks. I guess I will still have to use my finger.
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Unfortunately, that is the problem with the capacitive screen. The so-called stylus is actually something that emulates your finger tip in terms of contact area. Personally, a very sensitive resistive screen, such as in Samsung I8000 (Omnia 2) is better than the capacitive screen if you do a lot of text work involving copying, cutting and pasting!

anyone tried writing?

I am wonderimg if anyone has tried using one of those capacitive screen stylus pens.
It would be greay if we could draw on this thing.
or even take notes

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sudermatt said:
I am wonderimg if anyone has tried using one of those capacitive screen stylus pens.
It would be greay if we could draw on this thing.
or even take notes
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That would be nice and use it on one of the drawing/painting apps in the market.

dwcasey said:
That would be nice and use it on one of the drawing/painting apps in the market.
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Just bought a Targus stylus today. It works well for misc. scribbles, but if you want to do serious note taking it doesn't work very well. Parts of letters are blanked out, almost like a pencil skipping across paper. I have tried several different notepad applications, all with roughly the same results. The pen and the NC screen might have a 50-50 split on blame. I've also found that the pen works better if held at close to a 90deg angle to the screen - which isn't very natural/comfortable for writing.
All of that being said, will I take the stylus back? Probably not, it works great for keyboard input and selecting buttons/aps/etc....
If you run across a great note taking app, let me know.

I am currently working on the same goal, I'd like to take notes in class with mine. I ordered a BoxWave Stylus and a Dagi stylus. The boxwave works ok, but it requires more pressure than what's comfortable, and you can't tell where it's going to write which ends in very crappy looking letters and numbers. The Dagi sounds promising, but I haven't received it yet. I'll post up results.

sudermatt said:
I am wonderimg if anyone has tried using one of those capacitive screen stylus pens.
It would be greay if we could draw on this thing.
or even take notes
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Check this out in the accessories forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896838

http://www.appbrain.com/app/genial-writing/com.zenpie.genialwriting
Seems like a good enough app.. Don't have a stylus, I just use my finger. Although it's not great, needs some zoom adjustments.

[q]s-pen= awful

Does anybody else find the S.pen of the SGN really bad??.. when it comes to drawing some stuff..? Any remedy for that?
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i don't draw but i do annotate quite a lot, and it feels like the calibration is a bit off. what in particular about it is your concern?

Like, the place where i point the pen and the place where it writes is not the same,the location where it writes is a little bit to the upper left( not precise)... and its also has a latency after writing...
Its not a very big problem for me just a little critic...
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crz2uf said:
Does anybody else find the S.pen of the SGN really bad??.. when it comes to drawing some stuff..? Any remedy for that?
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I've used five s-pens so far, and two of them were significantly worse than the other three. Good news is that the problem is most likely with the pen itself and not with the Note!
Try getting a different pen (e.g. there is an official Samsung holder that comes with another pen). For the offset problem, try to switch from right to left to right... several times --- sometimes that helps to make the offset more reasonable. Also experiment with the angle of the Note as you write, often that makes a difference too.
Just my two cents...

The reason why it seems a bit of is done on purpose.
You notice this when you change your writing hand in the settings.
When it's set to your right hand, the drawing is slightly left of your pen. With the left hand it's the other way around.
This is done so you can see what you are drawing/writing and your hand is not in the way.
I know it sucks, but Samsung made it this way.

jellevanb said:
The reason why it seems a bit of is done on purpose.
You notice this when you change your writing hand in the settings.
When it's set to your right hand, the drawing is slightly left of your pen. With the left hand it's the other way around.
This is done so you can see what you are drawing/writing and your hand is not in the way.
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This is true, but some pens have larger offset than the others. I think some of them have sensitive elements inside aligned better. And actually this works rather nicely if the offset is reasonable, at least for me. Takes a bit of practice, but feels quite natural after a while... if you think about it, some offset is appropriate, since there are three surfaces at different depths: the writing surface, the "displaying" surface, and the actual surface which is sensitive to the pen's movements (this one is quite deep, it's behind the screen, not in front of it)...
Try different pens before giving up

Yeah the calibration is not exact to the point. When I'm writing words normally I'm not really affected, only when it comes to drawing in slow motions, the placement is off and it's frustrating for drawing little details.
However, I managed to dig out an old stylus which came with my ancient fujitsu tablet PC and it's calibrated perfectly.

I've noticed that the angle to which I hold the s-pen to the surface makes a difference in percieved accuracy.

This app has worked for me:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd

robot1000 said:
This app has worked for me:
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLnZpdGFsLnRzdC5uNzAwMCJd
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... Just note that it requires root
It will run without root, kinda, but you'll be getting something like this on the unlock:
"ERROR: IOException! No ROOT permissions?"

iamastone said:
However, I managed to dig out an old stylus which came with my ancient fujitsu tablet PC and it's calibrated perfectly.
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With the Fujitsu pen, does it have calibration issues or extra lines if you write on it upside down, like if you were lying on your back? My biggest pet peeve with this phone is that I can only use the pen if I'm sitting upright and holding the pen just so, otherwise calibration is way off and a lot of unintended lines appear.
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I've noticed that the angle to which I hold the s-pen to the surface makes a difference in percieved accuracy.
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I've noticed this too. It's most apparent to me when I set my phone on a table, holding the pen by it's very end. Touching the screen with the point and changing the angle of the pen relative to the screen--without moving the tip of the pen;s position at all--you can see the cursor move with the angle of the pen, even though the tip stays in one place.
The best way to fix this, in my mind, is for Wacom to do on this phone what they do for a lot of their tablets--have a little dot show up on the screen when you hover your pen, so you know where you'll be drawing.

thriceberg said:
With the Fujitsu pen, does it have calibration issues or extra lines if you write on it upside down, like if you were lying on your back? My biggest pet peeve with this phone is that I can only use the pen if I'm sitting upright and holding the pen just so, otherwise calibration is way off and a lot of unintended lines appear.
I've noticed this too. It's most apparent to me when I set my phone on a table, holding the pen by it's very end. Touching the screen with the point and changing the angle of the pen relative to the screen--without moving the tip of the pen;s position at all--you can see the cursor move with the angle of the pen, even though the tip stays in one place.
The best way to fix this, in my mind, is for Wacom to do on this phone what they do for a lot of their tablets--have a little dot show up on the screen when you hover your pen, so you know where you'll be drawing.
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This is a damn good idea right here. Someone should forward this to Samsung before they roll out the ICS update.

emignatius said:
This is a damn good idea right here. Someone should forward this to Samsung before they roll out the ICS update.
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I believe this is already in ICS.
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Well you guys said it all... drawing details,drawing slowly, lots of unwanted lines appear...etc...
I see, so its most likely caused by the pen rather than the note itself... ill give the app(touchscreentune) a try..thanks.
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Kensington Virtuoso Touch stylus first thoughts

This one :- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-...X39I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342685483&sr=8-1
It's very well made and has a good heft to it, feels like quality. I've only been able to test it on my TP as N7 still on the slow boat from Timbuktoo, the TP is not as sensitive as the N7 and pressure sensitive apps don't seem to work on it so more on that when the N7 arrives. That said the stylus is very responsive and the tip does not 'stick' to the screen although I suppose it depends what (if any) screen protector you have and how tacky it is so ymmv.
The pen end is not a gimmick, it takes Parker refills so that's a big plus point, the lid clips on firmly and the pocket clip is very strong but there's nowhere to store the cap when you are using the pen as it won't fit over the stylus tip, that's a minor problem though..
I have only one big gripe but which could be a problem if you intend to use it for long periods, when using the stylus end the balance point is too far back for my liking and the stylus wants to tip back all the time, given it's weight this is noticeable quite quickly. The balance point is a tiny bit forward of the line of the cap joint which is about the two thirds mark. You can ease the problem by taking the cap off the end but that exposes the pen nib with all the dangers of drawing on your hand/clothes as well as the screen.
As I said above, it's a well made piece if kit and well worth the money, I've used a few styluses from checp nasty ones to better quality, this one is by far the best I've used yet even given the balance issue.

I got this as well and am very happy with it! This is my first tablet, so maybe I don't know what a real good stylus is, but it feels really natural to use and I actually prefer it over using my fingers. Plus less smudging and the pen is handy as well

Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me

Update, Three weeks later and while the stylus is still as good to use, the pen cap is getting loose (rubber O ring a bit thin) which means it can come apart when hung from the clip. Drops a star for that.

Troute said:
Got my N7 this morning and have had time to play with it, compared to the TP the screen responsiveness is in another league altogether.
The stylus is smooth running across the (as yet) unprotected screen and pressure sensitivity works very well, the Kensington gets a couple more stars from me
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There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?

khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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My guess....he's using Quill or a similar app which has a tool that somehow manages to mimic pressure sensitivity.

khaytsus said:
There is no pressure sensitivity on the Nexus 7, why do you keep mentioning this?
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I wonder if there's an app that can transfer pressure sensitivity via Bluetooth or WiFi.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

I spoke of pressure sensitive Apps, not the N7 screen. I can't speak for all Apps but Markers is one that responds well to the stylus. I think it may be sensing tip coverage but it goes much further than just the area touched by the stylus (or your finger) try it and you'll see what I mean.

Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending

Troute said:
Final thought on this stylus, I've given up on it!
The tip went soft and started dragging on the screen and I got to dislike the feel of the stylus so much (especially the surface roughness) that I had to force myself to use it, so it's consigned to the drawer. I can use the pen refill elsewhere.
Moved on now to an Applydea Maglus, opinions pending
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I got the silver elago stylus for 10 bucks, made of aluminum, removable soft tip, nice length, width, weight, and it includes an additional soft tip
Sent from my Black "Destroy Mode" Nexus 7

I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso

Doallyn said:
I've had to ditch this stylus too - after about a month of smooth note taking using Quill the stylus has started to skip when writing, i've no idea why as it still looks solid enough and the screen is fine. But it keeps dropping out and makes it impossible to use now as a stylus...
Just recieved a Smith & Wesson tactical stylus and its fantastic on the N7 so far - works really well with the pressure effects in Quill too!
So bye bye Virtuoso
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Mine has become totally unusable now, the tip seems sticky and will not run across the screen smoothly.