Hi all,
Just wanted to share my experience with people who may be considering an extended battery for their 6800. I recently decided to take the plunge on the super-extended battery after ditching my home phone and going cell only. Between the email checking, web surfing, texting and phone calling, the stock battery wasn't even lasting a day before crapping out. I attribute some of that to the fact that I have very weak signal in my office so often times while at work my data connection will drop and reconnect.
So early this past week my battery arrived. Install was cake as expected, though the battery door doesn't fit perfectly. It is just slightly raised in the middle.. hardly noticeable, but there. Seems like the hole for the white camera flash LED isn't quite big enough to fit around the element, too. I was initially worried about the extended backing being an annoyance, but after a week of heavy use, I've found the phone is MORE comfortable to hold, albeit slightly heavier (which I've never minded at all). With the battery on, it feels to be about the same weight as my old Treo 650 (god I HATED that phone LOL).
Ok so here are my typical settings :
Bluetooth : Off
Wifi : Off
GPS : Can't use it yet.. to chicken to install custom ROM
Email : 2 accounts, one set to check for mail every 15 mins, the other every 4 hours.
Backlight : 60%
Auto-Off : 2 minutes (screen and sleep mode)
Data Connection : 24/7
Software Running Full-Time : SPB Mobile Shell 2.1, SPB Diary today plugin, VITO SMS-Chat, Personalizer
I am a very heavy text and picture mail user and do a fair bit of web-surfing. Voice usage is light to moderate.
This past Thursday evening I decided to try to see how long it stretched from full charge to zero. I plugged the phone in to the wall charger and charged it up to 100% (around 6pm). With my normal usage pattern, and without plugging it into a PC to sync (so no short recharges), I was at 30% by 10pm on Saturday night. In an effort to kill it so I could recharge overnight, I used media player to loop a few full-screen WMV videos as well as turning on Bluetooth and WiFi. The bastard was resilient, though. At midnight, I still had 5% charge and "very low battery" warnings. To kill it the rest of the way, I surfed around the web for a bit.. it officially keeled over at 12:23am.
So my first official test of the super-extended battery netted me approximately 54.5 hours of "normal" usage with the afore listed settings which includes a couple hardcore hours of me making an effort to take it from 30% to zero. Having not intentionally killed it, I'm sure it would have lasted much longer.
In conclusion, I'm extremely pleased with the Seidio 3500mAh battery. It certainly delivers on it's promises. Thankfully I've never been bothered by a bulky or slightly heavy phone, so the extra weight isn't a factor for me. If anyone is on the fence about buying one, I would say go for it. If you're a heavy phone user you will really appreciate the extra juice
Oh yeah, one more thing, the extended battery does stick out enough to make the phone ALMOST too big for my leather bag/case thing. It was a universal leatherette belt-pouch with the magnetic click locks on it. The phone still fits but it's a super tight squeeze so I whipped out my much-loathed VZW rubberized holster for the time being. I have a Seidio spring loaded holster on order, hopefully it will be here tomorrow or Tuesday.
Just wondering if the spring loaded holster fit with the extended battery?
rumie1971 said:
Just wondering if the spring loaded holster fit with the extended battery?
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I think I read on the actual site that it does. I velieve I was reading the ext. battery product info. I have the Seido black rubberized case and the spring holster and was thinking of upgrading as well.
Hopefully, themirthfulswami will inform us soon.
I second that experience - best change I've made to my mogul.
Before using the battery, it was a race to see if the battery died before the end of the day. Now I can miss a night or even two of charging and it doesn't even matter.
A word of warning: The mogul is already decently large. Adding the extended battery pushes it to the edge of being useful in one handed operation. Not that it isn't, you just have to learn to hold it slightly differently.
Hello
I have tried few 3000mAh batteries and they perform great. i get to use my Titan for 4 days without charging... If anyone is interested I can get them for you for 35$ with back door included...
Who do I need to send the money to get the extended battery?
So I noticed the original person never got back to completing the review. So here's my two cents:
I'm generally a heavy phone user, especially with texts, emails and web surfing due to job reqs. Here's my typical settings:
WiFi- off
Bluetooth- off (on roughly 1 or 2 hrs max a day)
Brightness- 100%
Email: 2 accounts, 1 checking every 5 minutes (Yea, I actually need it) and the other receiving emails as they arrive (meaning I get them immediately upon receiving)
Auto off: 1 minute
Data Connection: On at all times
Software Running: Just switched to Manilla 2D- definitely a cool program to check out, SPB Pocket Plus (no today plugin)- using it to flick through IE
Texting: I don't know how many I text/day but I've hit 3000 in a month
Talk times: light to moderate
So I've never actually drained the extended battery to nothing, since I'm still used to charging it on a daily basis. I generally start my day off at 6 in the morning, its now 2:00 at night and the meter shows 50%. So typically speaking this thing beats the original battery by a lot. I won't charge tonight and see how well the battery does tomorrow. Along with the battery, I also got the extended battery case which fits snuggly and also covers that "middle lift up" the original person had a problem with (I guess its a problem with all the battery doors). I also have the spring holster- which fits both regular and extended battery phones.
As for how well the battery will stand up to my rigorous usage- I'll update you all once I'm through with tomorrow
big batteries need a fast charger
I put my 3600mAh Mugen in the charger at 10pm and remove it at 6am. If I try to it with the standard XV6800 charger (250mAh/hour), it won't charge all the way. Instead I use the 450mAh charger that I bought on eBay to charge the Mugen outside of the phone. Except I don't remove the battery from the phone; the 450mAh charger uses a standard USB cable, so I simply plug the cable directly into the phone.
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I put my 3600mAh Mugen in the charger at 10pm and remove it at 6am. If I try to it with the standard XV6800 charger (250mAh/hour), it won't charge all the way. Instead I use the 450mAh charger that I bought on eBay to charge the Mugen outside of the phone. Except I don't remove the battery from the phone; the 450mAh charger uses a standard USB cable, so I simply plug the cable directly into the phone.
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As to that, I haven't had any problem charging the battery up to full using a regular charger. I generally plug it in probably 12 or 1 pm and unplug it at 6 or so. Then again, I never fully drain my battery.
As to the "review" that I had going yesterday, I am currently at 20% after 38 hours of use. I'm guessing this 20% will last several hours more since it was on 30% for several hours before
I just got one of these battery. When i plug into the charger the charging lite just blinks. Left it like this over night and still blinking.
Does this on 3 chargers:
1 - 5.5 V @ 1.0 A
2 - 5.4 V @ 2400 mA
3 - 5 V @ 850 mA
Any help ?
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I just got one of these battery. When i plug into the charger the charging lite just blinks. Left it like this over night and still blinking.
Does this on 3 chargers:
1 - 5.5 V @ 1.0 A
2 - 5.4 V @ 2400 mA
3 - 5 V @ 850 mA
Any help ?
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Are you using a seidio battery?
Yes the Seidio 3500mAh battery is the one that wont charge. My stock battery charges fine.
TdiDave said:
Yes the Seidio 3500mAh battery is the one that wont charge. My stock battery charges fine.
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Hm..are you using the charger that came with your device? If that doesn't work..its most probably due to the battery. Seidio has a warranty on the batteries they sell
Email them first and ask what you should do, you most probably will have to ship it back if anything
Leaving the battery out of the phone for a minute or so when changing has seemed to fixed my problem of charging the 3500mAh Seidio battery.
Glad to hear it! Enjoy the crazy long lasting battery life we've never had before with the stock ones!
I actually bought this battery off of someone used for 3 months. Life is way better than my original battery. My original was real funny. If i'm doing nothing, it would last a few hours with extremely basic functions including screen off for majority of time. If I was to make a phone call, battery would die literally after 10-15 minutes of constant speakerphone talking, even from a full charge. Pissed me off, I use my phone for many things and sh*tty battery limited me heavily.
After installing this new battery, I am using my phone for everything again. Slingbox, navi, bluetooth music listening, web surfing and ofcourse phone calls.
I am able to keep my phone off of charge for up to 2 days with heavy use. I work out everyday or try to and I watch tv through slingbox on my phone with Jabra BT620 bluetooth head phones. Thats a lot of drainage. Yet phone still does well with 2 days of use and no charge needed. I have emails set to come in every 5 minutes as well.
Here is one major issue this battery has presented to my phone when I originally got it but doesnt happen all the time. The beauty of our phones is that they are real easy to open and close. Real smooth. But can close very fast. First few times I closed it, it slams so hard I guess that the battery gets knocked out of place. I have to remove the battery completely and put it back in to start my phone up again. Very annoying but tested a few times and it doesnt seem to happen all the time. It has happened to me maybe 3 times since I got battery (almost a week) but it happened maybe 2 times on the first day.
It depends on how hard you do it. As I was typing this, i tested it a few times. Opened and closed pretty hard like 4 times in a row with no issues. 5th time, I did it harder than I normally would and it happened again. Aside from this, very happy with battery.
hm, never had that problem you had. But in general- lets agree, the battery is a lifesaver for any powerhouse user
Ok, so the battery is great, but what about Seidio's customer service? Here's what happened when I ordered the battery, along with a charger, hard case, and a few other accessories...
"Dear [my name here],
Please refuse the package for the carrier. The order arrived to your address belongs to another customer. Please contact customer service at 832-204-1118 for any questions.
Once we received the package, we will reship your order ASAP.
Regards,
Seidio Customer Service"
I paid for 2 day FedEx delivery, yet they want me to refuse delivery, and then they won't even send the right stuff out until they get the wrong stuff back? My wife needs the battery for an upcoming business trip. She can barely use her phone today because the current battery doesn't even last a single day anymore. Besides, I didn't get this e-mail until yesterday on the way home from work, and the package was on my front porch when I got home.
Of course, customer service was closed for the night, so I replied asking that my correct items be shipped out in an expedited fashion and offered to return the incorrect package however they wanted me to. I'll follow up today with customer service once they open as well. Wish me luck!
Here's an update to my Seidio shipping issue. Apparently someone else with my same first name placed an order at the same time, and somehow ours got switched. When I called this morning, the person I spoke with said the same thing as the e-mail, that I would have to return the package and then they would ship the right one once they received the wrong one.
Since we really needed the extended battery, I went ahead and placed a second identical order and chose next day shipping. Then I called them back to cancel the original, but to my surprise the person who answered knew of my situation immediately and we came to the following agreement. I would return the package I received, and at that point they would refund my original purchase price plus the cost of the next day shipping, meaning I am still paying 2nd day shipping for something that will have taken over a week to arrive. But hey, at least I'll finally have it, and my wife will be able to use the extended battery on her business trip.
that's good news, seidio doesn't seem like they'll have bad customer service, its a great battery tho with the case it is somewhat of a brick haha..hope you enjoy the new extended life of it!
The battery life on my kaiser (now 2 years old) had been steadily declining so I went to a local battery store and got a new one. After putting it in and being on the charger for only 15 minutes, it went RLoD. I had never had any issues with it before but after this new battery was put in it decided to break.
The battery that the store sold me is rated 3.6v 1200mAh, which I know is less than the original 3.7v 1350mAh.
What I want to know is, did the battery they sold me kill my phone, or was it on the brink of death to begin with and the new battery just pushed it over?
From what everyone seems to say about the RLoD, people seem to get it after using unofficial batteries. I guess the phone requires an exact constant voltage to operate and these copies just aren't giving enough juice regularly for it to operate properly. I assume you tried putting your old battery back in and it still gave the red light.
Also there's a thread about possible fixes here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358136
And here's a couple of my batteries if you want a comparison to yours:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2803/4166955430_9ddf8216f3_o.jpg
my captivate is v2.2 froyo rooted w z4 and lagfix, My stock battery barely lasts me through a night at work,
I ordered a 3500mah battery from ebay and when i received it I charged it overnight with my phone off....
The next day was a miracle! Battery stayed at 100% for 2 hours, by the end of the day I still had 60% battery left!
I read that the first couple charges need to be cycled so i tried to drain the battery by playing a movie over and over with screen brightness and volume at max.....
the battery lasted forever, after getting it down to 7% I charged it overnight- sameway with phone off, but now nomater what i do it only lasts the length of a stock battery.
I tried unplugging,plugging back in, phone off , phone on, waiting hours after it says 100%(on charger overnight) and tried ac and usb charging, but it just isnt seeming to charge all the way.
I was going to buy a second extended battery and an external battery charger but all the external chargers i see on ebay say are only good for li-ion batteries up to 2000mah, plus i had to modify my otterbox defender case to support my new battery and it would be a pain to have to take case apart everytime i swap batteries.
Ive been reading for days about what to do to no avail, all the external chargers i see arent rated for 3500mah capacity and I wouldnt mind flashing a custom rom that would support extended battery charging but the more research i do the more confused i get.....
Is there a kernal out there that is stable and supports charging these batteries with no bugs or issues????
What custom rom would be best?
please help......
any info is greatly appreciated
you didnt need to start a new thread your questions were being aswered already!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13320313#post13320313
its not the kernel
Thread closed due to double posting.
i got this on eBay in the late spring, and have been using them for the summer and fall: i like them. Abt $14USD i think it was: Good purchase.
i can't say whether they're really 1870mAh, nor how much longer they last compared to the stock HTC 1620mAh battery. My stock battery had been constantly abused for 2 1/2 years 24/7, sometimes being charged 3 times a day, so it's lost some of it's original capacity, and these new batteries definitely last longer than it does: that's all i can say for sure.
A few other things are certain: the HTC battery is listed as 1620mAh at 3.8VDC, whereas the Acesoft battery is listed as 1870mAh at 3.7VDC. That .1V makes a difference.
The chip in the Acesoft battery limits it's top voltage to 4.2V, whereas that in the HTC cell limits it to 4.3V.
The wall charger that comes with the package tops out at 4.2V. That means it'll charge the Acesoft cells to 100%, but will only charge the HTC stock battery to around 87%-90%; it'll take a charger that goes to 4.3V to charge it to 100%. It's a slow charger too, listed at 350mA current, and takes 6 hours to charge the Acesoft cells from empty to full. Charger also has a USB port listed at 800mA.
i don't have a problem with any of that. Others might. i'm happy to have a cell fone that takes interchangeable batteries, and happy to have 2 spare batteries to carry around. Slow charging means it's not so hard on the batteries, and i'm mostly asleep anyway during that period.
In normal use, the Acesoft battery will last a day with some spare capacity, and i've made it a habit to change the thing out once a day. On days when i use the fone heavily i've stopped worrying abt it dying on me. Just change the battery out when it does.
Don't charge the fone via USB anymore.
i get the impression one of these Acesoft batteries now last longer than the other one. That says something abt quality control of these things. Haven't tested it empirically, and don't care. It's a very minor difference so far. Just having spares and a wall charger more than makes up for all those worries.
Now that the Vivid/Raider has available Android 4.3.1 via the much appreciated efforts of Albinoman887 and friends, i'll likely buy another 2 of these batteries, switch to the Lightning launcher, and keep using the thing rather than buying a new fone.
It's all good.
So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
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So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
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Your batteries (#1 and #2) were not damaged by your usage pattern. They were bad quality period. And now you are paranoid about that. Those two batteries being bad does not surprise me at all because the inherent longevity of a battery is closely related to how well controlled the manufacturing process is, and we know how well that process is controlled for Chinese cheap batteries.
Modern batteries and chargers are built in a way that make them relatively immune to user abuse. Your battery lives for a certain number of charges and discharges. For a good battery from a reputable manufacturer that is around 500 to 1500 times. There is also a second order effect that if you recharge the battery before it completely dies it lives marginally longer. That is about it. The stuff you mentioned didn't cause your batteries to die. The poor manufacturing condition in a sweat shop in China did.
I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.
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I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.
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The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.
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The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.
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okay. Its my bad then. But i always notice that my phone heats up more when i use turbo charger. And heat is never good for these batteries.
The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.
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The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.
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I see thanks for clearing things up. I saw those videos and images of nexus 6 with all those popped batteries and back covers. I have been afraid of its heating up since then. So i can use it without worrying about its battery and back cover?
I've had my Nexus 6 since the beginning of the year and have had no problems with it whatsoever. While there is no guarantee you won't encounter a problem, if your Nexus is relatively recent like mine you shouldn't have any issues.