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Hi all,
Just wanted to share my experience with people who may be considering an extended battery for their 6800. I recently decided to take the plunge on the super-extended battery after ditching my home phone and going cell only. Between the email checking, web surfing, texting and phone calling, the stock battery wasn't even lasting a day before crapping out. I attribute some of that to the fact that I have very weak signal in my office so often times while at work my data connection will drop and reconnect.
So early this past week my battery arrived. Install was cake as expected, though the battery door doesn't fit perfectly. It is just slightly raised in the middle.. hardly noticeable, but there. Seems like the hole for the white camera flash LED isn't quite big enough to fit around the element, too. I was initially worried about the extended backing being an annoyance, but after a week of heavy use, I've found the phone is MORE comfortable to hold, albeit slightly heavier (which I've never minded at all). With the battery on, it feels to be about the same weight as my old Treo 650 (god I HATED that phone LOL).
Ok so here are my typical settings :
Bluetooth : Off
Wifi : Off
GPS : Can't use it yet.. to chicken to install custom ROM
Email : 2 accounts, one set to check for mail every 15 mins, the other every 4 hours.
Backlight : 60%
Auto-Off : 2 minutes (screen and sleep mode)
Data Connection : 24/7
Software Running Full-Time : SPB Mobile Shell 2.1, SPB Diary today plugin, VITO SMS-Chat, Personalizer
I am a very heavy text and picture mail user and do a fair bit of web-surfing. Voice usage is light to moderate.
This past Thursday evening I decided to try to see how long it stretched from full charge to zero. I plugged the phone in to the wall charger and charged it up to 100% (around 6pm). With my normal usage pattern, and without plugging it into a PC to sync (so no short recharges), I was at 30% by 10pm on Saturday night. In an effort to kill it so I could recharge overnight, I used media player to loop a few full-screen WMV videos as well as turning on Bluetooth and WiFi. The bastard was resilient, though. At midnight, I still had 5% charge and "very low battery" warnings. To kill it the rest of the way, I surfed around the web for a bit.. it officially keeled over at 12:23am.
So my first official test of the super-extended battery netted me approximately 54.5 hours of "normal" usage with the afore listed settings which includes a couple hardcore hours of me making an effort to take it from 30% to zero. Having not intentionally killed it, I'm sure it would have lasted much longer.
In conclusion, I'm extremely pleased with the Seidio 3500mAh battery. It certainly delivers on it's promises. Thankfully I've never been bothered by a bulky or slightly heavy phone, so the extra weight isn't a factor for me. If anyone is on the fence about buying one, I would say go for it. If you're a heavy phone user you will really appreciate the extra juice
Oh yeah, one more thing, the extended battery does stick out enough to make the phone ALMOST too big for my leather bag/case thing. It was a universal leatherette belt-pouch with the magnetic click locks on it. The phone still fits but it's a super tight squeeze so I whipped out my much-loathed VZW rubberized holster for the time being. I have a Seidio spring loaded holster on order, hopefully it will be here tomorrow or Tuesday.
Just wondering if the spring loaded holster fit with the extended battery?
rumie1971 said:
Just wondering if the spring loaded holster fit with the extended battery?
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I think I read on the actual site that it does. I velieve I was reading the ext. battery product info. I have the Seido black rubberized case and the spring holster and was thinking of upgrading as well.
Hopefully, themirthfulswami will inform us soon.
I second that experience - best change I've made to my mogul.
Before using the battery, it was a race to see if the battery died before the end of the day. Now I can miss a night or even two of charging and it doesn't even matter.
A word of warning: The mogul is already decently large. Adding the extended battery pushes it to the edge of being useful in one handed operation. Not that it isn't, you just have to learn to hold it slightly differently.
Hello
I have tried few 3000mAh batteries and they perform great. i get to use my Titan for 4 days without charging... If anyone is interested I can get them for you for 35$ with back door included...
Who do I need to send the money to get the extended battery?
So I noticed the original person never got back to completing the review. So here's my two cents:
I'm generally a heavy phone user, especially with texts, emails and web surfing due to job reqs. Here's my typical settings:
WiFi- off
Bluetooth- off (on roughly 1 or 2 hrs max a day)
Brightness- 100%
Email: 2 accounts, 1 checking every 5 minutes (Yea, I actually need it) and the other receiving emails as they arrive (meaning I get them immediately upon receiving)
Auto off: 1 minute
Data Connection: On at all times
Software Running: Just switched to Manilla 2D- definitely a cool program to check out, SPB Pocket Plus (no today plugin)- using it to flick through IE
Texting: I don't know how many I text/day but I've hit 3000 in a month
Talk times: light to moderate
So I've never actually drained the extended battery to nothing, since I'm still used to charging it on a daily basis. I generally start my day off at 6 in the morning, its now 2:00 at night and the meter shows 50%. So typically speaking this thing beats the original battery by a lot. I won't charge tonight and see how well the battery does tomorrow. Along with the battery, I also got the extended battery case which fits snuggly and also covers that "middle lift up" the original person had a problem with (I guess its a problem with all the battery doors). I also have the spring holster- which fits both regular and extended battery phones.
As for how well the battery will stand up to my rigorous usage- I'll update you all once I'm through with tomorrow
big batteries need a fast charger
I put my 3600mAh Mugen in the charger at 10pm and remove it at 6am. If I try to it with the standard XV6800 charger (250mAh/hour), it won't charge all the way. Instead I use the 450mAh charger that I bought on eBay to charge the Mugen outside of the phone. Except I don't remove the battery from the phone; the 450mAh charger uses a standard USB cable, so I simply plug the cable directly into the phone.
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I put my 3600mAh Mugen in the charger at 10pm and remove it at 6am. If I try to it with the standard XV6800 charger (250mAh/hour), it won't charge all the way. Instead I use the 450mAh charger that I bought on eBay to charge the Mugen outside of the phone. Except I don't remove the battery from the phone; the 450mAh charger uses a standard USB cable, so I simply plug the cable directly into the phone.
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As to that, I haven't had any problem charging the battery up to full using a regular charger. I generally plug it in probably 12 or 1 pm and unplug it at 6 or so. Then again, I never fully drain my battery.
As to the "review" that I had going yesterday, I am currently at 20% after 38 hours of use. I'm guessing this 20% will last several hours more since it was on 30% for several hours before
I just got one of these battery. When i plug into the charger the charging lite just blinks. Left it like this over night and still blinking.
Does this on 3 chargers:
1 - 5.5 V @ 1.0 A
2 - 5.4 V @ 2400 mA
3 - 5 V @ 850 mA
Any help ?
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I just got one of these battery. When i plug into the charger the charging lite just blinks. Left it like this over night and still blinking.
Does this on 3 chargers:
1 - 5.5 V @ 1.0 A
2 - 5.4 V @ 2400 mA
3 - 5 V @ 850 mA
Any help ?
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Are you using a seidio battery?
Yes the Seidio 3500mAh battery is the one that wont charge. My stock battery charges fine.
TdiDave said:
Yes the Seidio 3500mAh battery is the one that wont charge. My stock battery charges fine.
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Hm..are you using the charger that came with your device? If that doesn't work..its most probably due to the battery. Seidio has a warranty on the batteries they sell
Email them first and ask what you should do, you most probably will have to ship it back if anything
Leaving the battery out of the phone for a minute or so when changing has seemed to fixed my problem of charging the 3500mAh Seidio battery.
Glad to hear it! Enjoy the crazy long lasting battery life we've never had before with the stock ones!
I actually bought this battery off of someone used for 3 months. Life is way better than my original battery. My original was real funny. If i'm doing nothing, it would last a few hours with extremely basic functions including screen off for majority of time. If I was to make a phone call, battery would die literally after 10-15 minutes of constant speakerphone talking, even from a full charge. Pissed me off, I use my phone for many things and sh*tty battery limited me heavily.
After installing this new battery, I am using my phone for everything again. Slingbox, navi, bluetooth music listening, web surfing and ofcourse phone calls.
I am able to keep my phone off of charge for up to 2 days with heavy use. I work out everyday or try to and I watch tv through slingbox on my phone with Jabra BT620 bluetooth head phones. Thats a lot of drainage. Yet phone still does well with 2 days of use and no charge needed. I have emails set to come in every 5 minutes as well.
Here is one major issue this battery has presented to my phone when I originally got it but doesnt happen all the time. The beauty of our phones is that they are real easy to open and close. Real smooth. But can close very fast. First few times I closed it, it slams so hard I guess that the battery gets knocked out of place. I have to remove the battery completely and put it back in to start my phone up again. Very annoying but tested a few times and it doesnt seem to happen all the time. It has happened to me maybe 3 times since I got battery (almost a week) but it happened maybe 2 times on the first day.
It depends on how hard you do it. As I was typing this, i tested it a few times. Opened and closed pretty hard like 4 times in a row with no issues. 5th time, I did it harder than I normally would and it happened again. Aside from this, very happy with battery.
hm, never had that problem you had. But in general- lets agree, the battery is a lifesaver for any powerhouse user
Ok, so the battery is great, but what about Seidio's customer service? Here's what happened when I ordered the battery, along with a charger, hard case, and a few other accessories...
"Dear [my name here],
Please refuse the package for the carrier. The order arrived to your address belongs to another customer. Please contact customer service at 832-204-1118 for any questions.
Once we received the package, we will reship your order ASAP.
Regards,
Seidio Customer Service"
I paid for 2 day FedEx delivery, yet they want me to refuse delivery, and then they won't even send the right stuff out until they get the wrong stuff back? My wife needs the battery for an upcoming business trip. She can barely use her phone today because the current battery doesn't even last a single day anymore. Besides, I didn't get this e-mail until yesterday on the way home from work, and the package was on my front porch when I got home.
Of course, customer service was closed for the night, so I replied asking that my correct items be shipped out in an expedited fashion and offered to return the incorrect package however they wanted me to. I'll follow up today with customer service once they open as well. Wish me luck!
Here's an update to my Seidio shipping issue. Apparently someone else with my same first name placed an order at the same time, and somehow ours got switched. When I called this morning, the person I spoke with said the same thing as the e-mail, that I would have to return the package and then they would ship the right one once they received the wrong one.
Since we really needed the extended battery, I went ahead and placed a second identical order and chose next day shipping. Then I called them back to cancel the original, but to my surprise the person who answered knew of my situation immediately and we came to the following agreement. I would return the package I received, and at that point they would refund my original purchase price plus the cost of the next day shipping, meaning I am still paying 2nd day shipping for something that will have taken over a week to arrive. But hey, at least I'll finally have it, and my wife will be able to use the extended battery on her business trip.
that's good news, seidio doesn't seem like they'll have bad customer service, its a great battery tho with the case it is somewhat of a brick haha..hope you enjoy the new extended life of it!
OK, I know battery life is always an issue with PDA phones. I'm never far from a charger. I'm fine as long as I'm just checking e-mail (4 accounts, once an hour) and a little light web surfing with Opera Mini.
The problem arises when I use my phone as...well...a phone.
My Tilt loses battery power at an alarming rate when I'm talking on the phone. A 20 minute conversation will easily cost me 40% of my battery.
I'm usually in a non-3G area, so I'm on Edge. I normally have a good, strong 4-bar signal. Even when I'm in a 3G area, I use a different comm manager to turn off 3G to conserve power. I use KaiserTweak and select all the "Advised" settings in the power-related sections.
I've tried several different radios, but haven't noticed an improvement.
Does anyone have any ideas or recommendations on improving the efficiency of my Tilt in phone mode?
I have the same problem.
I have 3 batteries. 2 Samsungs and 1 Dynapak. Each battery lasts about 3 hours in standby. The phone is always warm as well. I have a utility that shows the phone is running around 380mAh current. That's seems pretty high.
I think theres something seriously wrong with certain batches of these phones.
these phones r seriously poor for battery life.. i love the htc but they slowly being overttaken by other phones.. shame!
maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 gay of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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Really??
So, what battery are you using? Which ROM? Which radio?
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maybe depends on the battery and ROM/radio because my Kaiser lasts 1 day of VERY heavy usage+calling, and in stand by can lasts 6 days at least.
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mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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Me too used to get about 2 days with a 2700 that is being registered correctly, i now tell everyone to not phone me "well they don't listen just like no one does" so i block all incoming calls with MagiCall, to what point do i have a phone now? To flash & twaek and text
"Am kinda joking but my stylus is now half the size due to this topic"
Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.
ChumleyEX said:
Buy a new battery.
I don't dig long phone calls unless there is something going on. Too many people just want to hang out on the phone and say nothing.
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Mine is a new battery Have to say same about people talking about nothing.
"The loss of battery was due to phonecall and radio i'm not moaning either i expect the battery life to not be perfect on any WM phone"
Well yeah radio version help too.
ChumleyEX said:
mine too or maybe more. Normally I charge every 2 days.
Seriously though, hasn't this topic been beat to death with a stylus?
Ask youself this, how is your battery and what all is running on the phone?
If the battery is a year old then just accept that it's shelf life is over with. If your phone is always warm that would general mean that one of the radios is running, Wifi , data, gps? If any of those are running all of the time or when you are not using it, then your draining the battery.
I have a friend that beat himself up trying to figure out why his battery would drain so fast, he reflashed the phone 3 times a day etc etc etc. He just could not accept that it was a crappy battery. I got another (used battery) and it worked fine.
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This isn't my first foray into these HTC devices. I've been using them for nearly 2 years now, and I know the battery life on these devices isn't what it is on something like my old RAZR. I'm just fine with that; since the Tilt does so much more, I don't expect the charge to last a week like my RAZR did. But this drain while using the phone is driving me nuts.
FYI, I know to keep WiFi and GPS off, and to use KaiserTweak to shut down data connections when they're not being used. If I don't use the phone or surf, the battery will easily last me 2 days, and that's with checking 4 e-mail accounts every hour, and with SBSH PocketWeather getting updates every 2 hours. But talk on the phone, and it's a different story. I talked to my wife for about 30 minutes last night and went from 80% to 20% battery level.
The battery is only about 7-8 months old. Still, I ordered a new 1600ma battery last week, and it should be here in a day or two. I'm hoping that solves the problem.
It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
good luck.
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It's possible that the battery you have now is under warranty. (if you bought the phone new)
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Unfortunately, it was a refurb, and the warranty expired a long time ago. The new battery wasn't exactly a budget killer.
Well my battery seems to be working now.
Phone is no longer hot all the time, and my utility says I'm using between 1 and 64 mA. That's much better than the 350+ mA it was sucking before.
I didn't do a damn thing different either. Didn't change any settings for the radios, didn't reflash, etc..
Some people think that the GPS get's stuck in the "on" position and there's no way to turn it off, short of opening and closing GPS Aware programs repeatedly until your current usage drops in the sub 100 mA range.
Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(
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Always discharge your battery fully as possible at least 1 a week to ensure your battery last longer, lots of charges above the threshold will diminish your batteries life and capacity. The Kaiser is a powerful device and it is obvious to anyone that this requires power to run it, so the battery wont last for days. :-(
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HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
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Be that as it may, when you get a new battery you still have to use it for a few weeks before the phone reports battery levels accurately. The phone may still shut down when WM thinks it's almost empty, regardless if it's actually empty or not. Just try it, battery life improves over the first few weeks of usage, and your battery level readings will get more stable (instead of dropping to 50% in 10 minutes and then proceeding to stay there for 6 hours).
BTW my kaiser lasts about 3 days as well, with fairly heavy usage.
No fair, I want a bazillion stars next to my name too.
I Think this guy has had the phone and battery for a little while, so the few weeks thing might not be an option. (well at least the battery he was posting about)
HUH???????
These are Lithium batteries, we aren't in the 90's anymore buddy.. My phone lasts for at least 2 days and sometimes 3 (the phone is over a year old too)..
Welcome to the year 2009
"1. Battery Memory - When I first got my new cellphone, my friend recommended to fully drain the battery before recharging it. His reasoning was connected to the idea of battery memory. Allowing the battery to fully discharge then recharging to max, supposedly gives you the complete battery capacity. Otherwise, if you simply charged from the half way point to max battery capacity, the battery would treat the half way point as the empty point, thus cutting your battery capacity in half.
Problem is battery memory doesn’t apply to Lithium batteries, this advice was meant for Nickel based batteries. Fully discharging your Lithium battery frequently can actually be quite harmful to your battery’s health, possibly rendering it completely unusable if energy levels go too low.
The good news is today’s lithium batteries have a safety circuit in place to insure the battery doesn’t reach the point of no return. The safety circuit isn’t fool proof of course, if you leave your battery completely drained for a few days, even the circuit’s protective measures won’t save it.
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INFACT it's recommended to leave a little bit of a charge before charging or storing.
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As refered to your reply, i didnt mean discharge fully completely i meant the cut off point would stop you anyhow, i meant to bring it to about 10%, i found that using the battery until it reaches 10-12% far by decreases battery drain when it is fully charged again, this is only 1 in a while though not frequently. I understand lithuim-ion doesnt have a memory effect problem, but there is such thing as variable current influencing different cells which can either benefit or make it worst, there is a lot of debate as to whether this improves it or not.
Great tip, keep it cool and away from your pocket pants because heat kills it.
Dude thats no fun to keep it out of your pocket,
I bought a couple extra batteries for my 9000M. Are there going to be any problems draining one battery, then inserting the next, and so on? The extra batteries have to be charged in an external charger I believe. I haven't put the new batteries in the phone yet.
Thanks
there should be no problem
im doing the exact same thing
original battery + 2 1500 mAh batteries from HK
i can tell that the original batt does have extra juice but not a real big difference
running thru 2 batteries a day on lot of screen time (involves gaming + watching movies and such which really sucks up the battery)
i use the ones i bought first since i see the original having a little more juice and keep it for real emergancy situation since i know it will last longer
usually when plugging a new batt in (either of the new batts phone starts with 99-97%) and lives to 10-3% before it shutsdown
but when i plug in the original it starts from a 100% which is good
no problems for the past couple of months and all is good
So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
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So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
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Your batteries (#1 and #2) were not damaged by your usage pattern. They were bad quality period. And now you are paranoid about that. Those two batteries being bad does not surprise me at all because the inherent longevity of a battery is closely related to how well controlled the manufacturing process is, and we know how well that process is controlled for Chinese cheap batteries.
Modern batteries and chargers are built in a way that make them relatively immune to user abuse. Your battery lives for a certain number of charges and discharges. For a good battery from a reputable manufacturer that is around 500 to 1500 times. There is also a second order effect that if you recharge the battery before it completely dies it lives marginally longer. That is about it. The stuff you mentioned didn't cause your batteries to die. The poor manufacturing condition in a sweat shop in China did.
I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.
akholicc said:
I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.
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The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.
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The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.
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okay. Its my bad then. But i always notice that my phone heats up more when i use turbo charger. And heat is never good for these batteries.
The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.
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I see thanks for clearing things up. I saw those videos and images of nexus 6 with all those popped batteries and back covers. I have been afraid of its heating up since then. So i can use it without worrying about its battery and back cover?
I've had my Nexus 6 since the beginning of the year and have had no problems with it whatsoever. While there is no guarantee you won't encounter a problem, if your Nexus is relatively recent like mine you shouldn't have any issues.
Hi,
Yesterday i buy new battery for my old lg g2, but i'm not sure is it original.
My New battery is non stepped like this http://tanstartrade.ca/images/LG%20BL-T7.jpg
Do you think that it could be authentic?
Thanks in advance for your help.
I just got replaced battery in service - they told me that they use original LG parts. When I checked it under the cover, it shows manufactured date 6th of January 2016. It is not allowed by antena strips and curved back cover to have thicker battery and thinner would have less capacity. You could probably try but I don't see any benefits in that.
EDIT: After few days of usage I had to get my battery replaced by the old one. May be bad luck with not properly working battery but more probably faik one (runs for 0-10 mins, weird force charging in no OS mode). When they showed me the "new" battery in service it is thinner than the original, does not have the stepped back and thus makes gap between back cover and battery itself - 2mm of medium hard press. So it was like yours - flat design - no additional stepped part. The service was not authorised service but looked legit and had plenty of good reviews. So it's my experience of flat lg battery replacement stated as original.
Be noticed that all of below information are not yet confirmed.
I discovered the difference between original and fake since searching trough forums and own experience. :victory:
Design od LG BL-T7 battery has not changed ever since. Still the only one with the stepped back side. Should look like the battery on right side of these pictures, otherwise it is nor factory replacement (aka fake):
http://i.imgur.com/2Yt8cvDh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hkVpceYh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XtEH5AQh.jpg
The main difference is in litle bulk under printing "BL-T7", arrows under the NOM icon and next right is noticeable differnce in T in that symbol, fonts differ and last letter of chineese behind the manufactured day,...
There is a believe that non-original batteries are not that bad at all, only they have poor wiring and connection port which often makes them behave unexpectedly.
How to calibrate battery after replacement or when needed here.
I replaced my battery recently, they told me that it's not the original one, its a Chinese made but works well. So far, no issue.
Where did you get that one?
iubjaved said:
I replaced my battery recently, they told me that it's not the original one, its a Chinese made but works well. So far, no issue.
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tiguy99 said:
Where did you get that one?
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From Ebay. Bought it from a trusted seller.
Sorry for the late reply, i wasn't around for long.
Thanks. When possible, please pm me the sellers info.
Gonna buy one asap
iubjaved said:
From Ebay. Bought it from a trusted seller.
Sorry for the late reply, i wasn't around for long.
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tiguy99 said:
Thanks. When possible, please pm me the sellers info.
Gonna buy one asap
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-LG-...781964?hash=item51cfceb70c:g:oOEAAOSwv0tVNo12
Note that if you face any issue regarding charging since these batteries are years old, then feel free to contact the seller and you will get a replacement.
I bought that same battery. It had no glue residue and the year was rubbed off.
It looks genuine but I won't be able to tell until my replacement screen arrives and I can install them both at the same time.
I bought a 3950mah high capacity battery from aliexpress (so clearly not geniune but for the money I decided to give it a shot). it works fine, got my Screen on time from 2-3h to 5h or more. However, when charging, it will charge up to 95-99% and then, while still plugged in, go down to 83% and stay there. Then when I unplug it and start using it, it first goes back up to 90-95% before going back down like normal. Has anyone experienced something like this and/or know a way to fix it? I tried some battery calibration methods but no luck. Also, since the phone rarely reaches 100% (indicated) it doesnt always reset the screen on timer properly... this makes it difficult to keep accurate track of its performance. when it does work 5h seems to be the usual value.
That one sounds weird.
Definitely not normal.
Only solution is to buy another and test it or return the one you haveDefinitely and try another one
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I bought a 3950mah high capacity battery from aliexpress (so clearly not geniune but for the money I decided to give it a shot). it works fine, got my Screen on time from 2-3h to 5h or more. However, when charging, it will charge up to 95-99% and then, while still plugged in, go down to 83% and stay there. Then when I unplug it and start using it, it first goes back up to 90-95% before going back down like normal. Has anyone experienced something like this and/or know a way to fix it? I tried some battery calibration methods but no luck. Also, since the phone rarely reaches 100% (indicated) it doesnt always reset the screen on timer properly... this makes it difficult to keep accurate track of its performance. when it does work 5h seems to be the usual value.
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That one sounds weird.
Definitely not normal.
Only solution is to buy another and test it or return the one you haveDefinitely and try another one
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I have contacted the seller but so far they are not replying... I tried the Ampere and 3C Battery monitor the check the voltages and currents while charging. At first, I thought the phone showed the wrong percentage as it was not calibrated for the high capacity (so 80% was actually 120% relative to the standard battery capacity) but it showed that the phone was actually discharging once it reached full charge. Also, my assumption of it being 120% was wrong since the percentage probably comes from the cell voltage. So, next I checked the cell voltage using both ampere and 3C but the values were all over the place, jumping from 4.36 to 4.2 and back. this made no sense. The battery has a top voltage of 4.37 when fully charged so maybe the battery monitoring software of the phone is confused by this?
In any case I will wait for the seller to get back to me and if the problem becomes worse I will get a new battery to test out.
Thanks for the update.
Keep us posted on how it goes.
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I have contacted the seller but so far they are not replying... I tried the Ampere and 3C Battery monitor the check the voltages and currents while charging. At first, I thought the phone showed the wrong percentage as it was not calibrated for the high capacity (so 80% was actually 120% relative to the standard battery capacity) but it showed that the phone was actually discharging once it reached full charge. Also, my assumption of it being 120% was wrong since the percentage probably comes from the cell voltage. So, next I checked the cell voltage using both ampere and 3C but the values were all over the place, jumping from 4.36 to 4.2 and back. this made no sense. The battery has a top voltage of 4.37 when fully charged so maybe the battery monitoring software of the phone is confused by this?
In any case I will wait for the seller to get back to me and if the problem becomes worse I will get a new battery to test out.
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Hello guys, I am looking to buy new battery for my 2 and half years old g2. So here are my options:
1) Pollarcell - they says it's great battery, but still kinda expensive for a non-oem battery. It would cost me about 25e.
2) OEM LG battery - in LG official service, I have to check it they still got them, price was about 30e if I recall correctly.
3) Some random battery - I guess this is lottery.I can get good or I can get bad battery. There are many brands, and their price is from 8-9 to 15e.
OEM is best choice for sure, but I don't feel like investing 1/3 of phone price in battery, especially cause I don't know how long I will keep that phone. Dunno what to do
Edit: Did anyone tried this battery? It has quite high rating
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32572840069.html#autostay
Beware of Pollarcell batteries I have read cases of burning
Bought my new battery at PhonTrading24 ,
Battery is class and from new production 12/2016 .
fake or original?
I also changed my battery after 3 years at LG service however I have some questions in my mind whether battery is fake or original one. Although new battery has same capacity like old one but it doesn not last like new one ( it lasts almost a day ) Pictures are attached new and old one. What do you think guys?
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I also changed my battery after 3 years at LG service however I have some questions in my mind whether battery is fake or original one. Although new battery has same capacity like old one but it doesn not last like new one ( it lasts almost a day ) Pictures are attached new and old one. What do you think guys?
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It looks like the original one and it might well be. But that also means it is not new, as the production of original batteries have stopped several years back. So what you have is probably an unused but ageing battery.
Batteries start degrading the moment they are produced, just that it degrades at a slower rate being unused (depending on temperature it's stored etc), compared to it being actively used everyday.
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It looks like the original one and it might well be. But that also means it is not new, as the production of original batteries have stopped several years back. So what you have is probably an unused but ageing battery.
Batteries start degrading the moment they are produced, just that it degrades at a slower rate being unused (depending on temperature it's stored etc), compared to it being actively used everyday.
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thanks a lot for the comment. I have been using this battery for a month now and the battery ends after completing one day. As and old production not bad as you said.
Dimensions of original battery BL-T7, taken off from LG G2 : 55.4mm x 66.4 mm x 5.6 mm (thickness in the middle), Weight: 45 G.