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Nookcolor thoughts after CES

Now with CES behind us but with thoughts of all those new tablets still fresh in our heads, anyone still think a rooted Nookcolor will be able to hold it's own against the tide that's coming.
Anyone with a rooted Nookcolor-will you still buy a tablet this year and if so which one, or will the Nookcolor still do.
I think the price point of the Nookcolor is it's greatest strength now.

I agree for $250, the NC can't be beat. Honeycomb on NC
I do plan on getting a new tab, maybe one of 10.1" running Honeycomb but don't know which one yet.

My opinion is...
The Nook is a book reading device first. Its a make shift tablet second.
It is not really fair to compare it to tablets that are designed to be tablets.
With that said, the newest thing is always around the corner. What is NOT around the corner is the hundreds more dollars for me to spend that these new devices cost as compared to the Nook.
Once the Nook gets a stable and functional Froyo, it will put it a very good advantage for at least the next year with app support.
It will take some time for Tegra2 to build up steam and drop in price. Meanwhile you have all of these older devices/tablets/cellphones still running older systems.
Just because 3.0 is coming up does not mean that all support will stop for the older devices. Developers would be foolish to stop supporting the older builds.
So, the answer for me is YES, the Nook is a great buy at this moment in time.

I have to agree with the price point being the NC's largest draw and strength. For $250 you can't get a better piece of hardware. Once we can get honeycomb (and by we I mean you people smarter than myself) on the NC we'll be flying high.

From what I have read, which may be BS, honeycomb will require dual processors to function properly, so I doubt nook color can handle it.
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There's always something "better" available "real soon now". I'd have to check, but none of the CES announcements included either a price for the device or a release date. Heck, the Adam took almost a year from CES to release, and even then it had a very limited release and still hasn't shipped. But you can go over to B&N and pick up a NC right now.

There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785

Oh, and if you don't know who Dan Morrill is...
http://www.google.com/profiles/morrildl

I just picked up a Nook Color for $180 from CL...but even at full price I didn't see anything that blew me away from CES. Sure the newer tablets will have better CPUs etc. but I doubt they will have the Screen quality of the NC at this price-point. For me what sold me on the NC is the ability to Root it, make it a very functional tablet (even if so claim its a book reader first, I think it makes an amazing tablet). I am one of the few that do not need a webcam etc. And let's not forget the amazing Screen quality!

CES Shows some really awesome looking devices but the market at the moment is pricing everything retardedly high. For the moment the $250 NC is the best bang for the buck for a simple Tablet. And I do fully expect to see a Honeycomb port in due time.
Untill the market gets saturated with actually good devices around the $300 price point and not the $499 point, (Especially the 3G only devices?! Not everyone wants or needs 3G!).

From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet. I would expect with the fact that Android is open, costs for these devices would be driven down significantly. However, the new crop of Android tablets are up there with Win OS tablets (almost), yet don't have a full featured OS.
I agree with spikey911 that this is an ereader first, Android tablet second. To me, having it run android apps is a benefit, not the primary reason I got it.
I would love a dual core or a Tegra 2 tablet. Would I pay more than $300 for one? Absolutely not. By the time that comes down in price, the next crop of the "greatest" comes out.
The only way I would upgrade to different tablet is if/when the Lenovo LePad/U1 comes down in price. Then I could chuck the NC and my Core 2 duo netbook.

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From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet.
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That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging? I picked the nook color because the ability to root and the build quality was outstanding. Closest to that of the iPad. With the new crop of devices coming they are not bringing anything new, dual core yay but other than that what else. For those with nooks is 4-500 dollars worth a larger screen? What can you do on those that you cant do on the nook color? Also nook is still on 2.1 so with froyo there should be a slight speed increase.
Dont think anything from CES was mind blowing and would make me considering giving up my nook.

Outside of Android, Gigabyte just announced a reasonably nice Win7 Tablet with a N550 (duel core) and even a 320G HD supposidly aimed at the sub $300 market. If so with a reasonable capacitive screen it would be one of the first reasonable Win7 Tablets. For a device that has netbook specs it may be the first to finally get it that they need to be priced reasonable for the reasonable specs. Touchscreen replacement for a keyboard should not cost $200 more.

I'm still waiting patiently for the NC with 2G/3G... Anyone know when it will be out?

myv6mustang said:
That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging?
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I think that we are seeing the NC at razor thin markup (almost cost) due to the "razor/razor blades" marketing model that ebooks use. B&N expect to make all their money on book sales, not the hardware. Until we have a Tegra2 KindleIV to compare to, I doubt we'll know for sure

I'm not looking for my Nook to replace my laptop. The thing that got me is the performance/price and the big thing: not having a data plan. I don't understand who has the money to buy a $500 device and then pay $25-50/month for 24 months. I can buy a really nice laptop for $1100-1700.
Homer

For me the NC is a tablet first & an ereader second! At least that's the way I use it. IMO it has enough going on hardware wise that the only time that it is an ereader first, is that period of time between opening the box & rooting it! Just because it doesn't have a few hard keys, camera or GPS & USB host doesn't mean it is not a viable tablet. Actually, a rooted NC has more tablet functions than it does ereader functions. I am very happy with the NC without these features, as that kept the price where I could afford it. With it competing in the ereader market, B&N had to price it accordingly. If it had been competing as a tablet, it could have demanded a much higher price. I was not looking for a laptop replacement, just a more portable connected device that doesn't require a data contract.
Cheers,
kev

Best tablet for under $300. Once Froyo is successfully ported and BT able kernel it will be even better. There is no way you will find another 7" tablet with capacitance screen, 1024x600 res, 512MB RAM, 8GB Internal Storage for anywhere near this price. B&N is selling them at a low price to get people to buy their ebooks.
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911jason said:
There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785
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Glad it was BS.
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duloz said:
Glad it was BS.
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I am not convinced that not having some pretty strong minimum hardware specs is a good thing. Microsoft was pretty smart by setting the bar high on their Win Phone 7 units. I think the Android community would benefit from having some specs that ensure that a tablet or phone will perform fast and smooth. You know that Apple will increase their specs for the next iPad and it will suck if honeycomb runs poorly on previous gen tablets.

iPAD2 price and date

So iPad 2 is out MARCH 11 next week and has the same prices they are also just attacking Android for being copycats too
But there you have it

It also has the two cameras, 33% thinner (like a piece of paper), dual core, mirrored hdmi out, two colors (black and white), and a case that is more of a "cover". It looks like they are trying to copy android tablets...

You need an extra $39 cable to get hdmi out? That is soooo Apple!!
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yepp i thought it was funny the app jab with the honeycomb logo compared to a device that has been out for a full year already, and then the jab on prices i thought was legit

whats it matter what its price or power?the cpu and gpu look great,but whats it matter?they will require backwards compatibility with the old ipad, and the ipad lacks a true os that a tablet for a power user needs

Sweet! The iOS looks the same! All those app icons. Intuitive!

Seems to me, aside from the thickness, Apple has copied most of the new Android Tablet features...dual core, hdmi, front facing camera...I'm sorry but copycat much?

This is not an ipad forum...
Mods need to delete

The iPad with 2 cameras and dual core, I wonder who's copying who?
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Yeah I'm watching. I hope this is the last overly smug announcement for a tablet I have to watch. Here's to hoping this pushes Google and manufacturers a bit.
And yes, I know I don't have to watch. They're always fun to watch, the tone just gets me.

Bauxite said:
This is not an ipad forum...
Mods need to delete
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In relation to the Xoom, it is relevant. It's a good way to compare and contrast features. If you don't like it, don't reply or become involved. It's that simple. I'm not seeing anything that blows the Xoom away so far and I'm happy that I decided on the Xoom. Relax Bauxite.

iamsupreme said:
In relation to the Xoom, it is relevant. It's a good way to compare and contrast features. If you don't like it, don't reply or become involved. It's that simple. I'm not seeing anything that blows the Xoom away so far and I'm happy that I decided on the Xoom. Relax Bauxite.
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The only thing I like so far is the 1.3 pound weight. Other than that, it is still the same OS which is why I went with the Xoom.

calin75 said:
You need an extra $39 cable to get hdmi out? That is soooo Apple!!
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But the device starts at $499. The Xoom is $799 as its only price point. I think its a joke too, but its still cheaper by an extreme amount lol.
This is really sad. At first we said that the Motorola Xoom has to be expensive because of the components. This is completely debunked by the fact that the iPad 2 just launched 1 week later with a dual-core processor, the same storage, 2 cameras, and crafted from aluminum, for $499.
Not to mention that there is no software R&D in Motorolas price, they didn't have to buy Honeycomb. Its just sad that motorola can only release for $799, even the announced wifi version is gonna be $599. How can you release with the same specs for $100+ more than the iPad version?
I'm by far NOT an Apple fanboy, but Motorola is gonna have to slash these prices or they're not going to sell 1million Xooms this year. We're gonna have to see the Xoom down to match or be under the iPad 2 prices or its GG Moto imho.
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The only thing I like so far is the 1.3 pound weight. Other than that, it is still the same OS which is why I went with the Xoom.
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Yep, me too. I'm not going to buy an iPad, but its A LOT harder to buy the Xoom for $799 when I know they're just straight stealing from me for the price of the components. TBH this means that I'm re-thinking waiting on the Xoom literally because I know they must drop the price to get any real sales numbers. I guarantee their numbers were bad before, but they're gonna be even worse now.

Apple sure knows how to put on a show and get people excited, though! Thinner, lighter, same battery life, same price... same accessibility limitations but it is making people drool...

martonikaj said:
But the device starts at $499. The Xoom is $799 as its only price point. I think its a joke too, but its still cheaper by an extreme amount lol.This is really sad. At first we said that the Motorola Xoom has to be expensive because of the components. This is completely debunked by the fact that the iPad 2 just launched 1 week later with a dual-core processor, the same storage, 2 cameras, and crafted from aluminum, for $499.
Not to mention that there is no software R&D in Motorolas price, they didn't have to buy Honeycomb. Its just sad that motorola can only release for $799, even the announced wifi version is gonna be $599. How can you release with the same specs for $100+ more than the iPad version?
I'm by far NOT an Apple fanboy, but Motorola is gonna have to slash these prices or they're not going to sell 1million Xooms this year. We're gonna have to see the Xoom down to match or be under the iPad 2 prices or its GG Moto imho.
Yep, me too. I'm not going to buy an iPad, but its A LOT harder to buy the Xoom for $799 when I know they're just straight stealing from me for the price of the components.
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Right. I'm sure if there was a WiFi only, 16GB Xoom, we'd be looking at $499.99 too. The "equivalent" Xoom is 32GB, WiFi for $599.99. The iPad is cheaper because it has options, as far as hardware configuration goes.

martonikaj said:
But the device starts at $499. The Xoom is $799 as its only price point. I think its a joke too, but its still cheaper by an extreme amount lol.
This is really sad. At first we said that the Motorola Xoom has to be expensive because of the components. This is completely debunked by the fact that the iPad 2 just launched 1 week later with a dual-core processor, the same storage, 2 cameras, and crafted from aluminum, for $499.
Not to mention that there is no software R&D in Motorolas price, they didn't have to buy Honeycomb. Its just sad that motorola can only release for $799, even the announced wifi version is gonna be $599. How can you release with the same specs for $100+ more than the iPad version?
I'm by far NOT an Apple fanboy, but Motorola is gonna have to slash these prices or they're not going to sell 1million Xooms this year. We're gonna have to see the Xoom down to match or be under the iPad 2 prices or its GG Moto imho.
Yep, me too. I'm not going to buy an iPad, but its A LOT harder to buy the Xoom for $799 when I know they're just straight stealing from me for the price of the components.
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I totally agree i would love to buy a xoom but for the price its a hard sell, and an even harder one with there not being a wifi only version

ipad 2 is so SQUARE looking haha!! should have copied android with the 10.1

Same OS = Same ****. FOH
And they shaved .2 pounds off the weight... big deal
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4g??
havnt seen 4g?? mentioned unless I missed it

And while the Xoom Wifi only version in still not available, the iPad 2 will be available March 11th... makes it harder to wait for Moto especially since Apple also has more experience having successfully launched the first iPad.

[Q] To get an IPad or not...

I need some opinions on this topic: should I get an IPad or not.
A bit of background about me
- I am an Android user (Galaxy S)
- I do not own any nor have I ever owned an Apple device
- I would never want an Iphone
- I really want a tablet
- I live in South Africa where the ipad 2 is getting released tomorrow
- Except for the Samsung Tab P1000 there are no Android tablets available here yet
- We generally only receive devices 3-6 months after the US, so no Galaxy 10.1 until later this year
- Importing is generally not an option as this would push the price way too high
My options are:
- Buy an Ipad 2 tomorrow, sell it once the droids hit the shelves here
- Wait until June when a friend of mine travels to Europe and brings me back a XOOM for Galaxy 10.1 (if they are released by then...)
My Concerns:
- Apple sucks
- No Jailbreak for Ipad 2 as of yet
- Apple Apps are damn expensive, $9.95 for pages?!?!
- All other restrictions that come with the Ipad (yes, I know them all...)
- Resell value of the ipad 2
- No native divx/avi - COME ON!!!
What I need it for:
- browsing
- videos
- music
- reading books
Despite all this I cannot help feel that I someone want the ipad, maybe its the looks? I just really want a tablet... Now, what would YOU do?

You could get the transformer.
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If you're wanting to sell it when Droids hit the shelves then I'd say don't buy, It's an awful lot of money to spend on something which you do not particularly want, also if your views are 'Apple Sucks' I wouldn't reccomend it at all Although a good tablet none the less.

MacaronyMax said:
If you're wanting to sell it when Droids hit the shelves then I'd say don't buy, It's an awful lot of money to spend on something which you do not particularly want, also if your views are 'Apple Sucks' I wouldn't reccomend it at all Although a good tablet none the less.
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I really want a tablet . I agree, it is a lot of money but the iPads seem to have an excellent resell value in this country. Maybe knock of 15% in 4 or 5 months. The supply is so small compared to the demand.

Tim182 said:
I really want a tablet . I agree, it is a lot of money but the iPads seem to have an excellent resell value in this country. Maybe knock of 15% in 4 or 5 months. The supply is so small compared to the demand.
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Ahhh fair enough Is buying from abroad not an option?

MacaronyMax said:
Ahhh fair enough Is buying from abroad not an option?
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Possibly. Customs can be a real ***** though. Bought my Galaxy S from overseas (I think I was the first to own one locally) but it cost me an arm and a leg.
I would buy the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in a heartbeat but who knows about the release date of a 3G version. Xoom is awesome but expensive for the 3G version $$$. Plus, I am not a fan of the looks.
My fears with the iPad 2 are
- no native video playback of divx/avi and I have no nerve to convert videos every time. Not sure if players like Azul work well. VLC has been pulled of the market and since there is no jailbreak as of yet it can't be installed
- No flash
- No tab browsing, not sure if there is a DECENT browser that can sort this out
- Document editing - I refuse to pay $9.95 each for pages and numbers and google docs doesn't seem to be a real solution either
- Just transferring files, I have this feeling that I will throw the thing out the window once I realise that I cannot save an email attachment and open it in different apps (please correct me here!!!)

Tim182 said:
Possibly. Customs can be a real ***** though. Bought my Galaxy S from overseas (I think I was the first to own one locally) but it cost me an arm and a leg.
I would buy the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in a heartbeat but who knows about the release date of a 3G version. Xoom is awesome but expensive for the 3G version $$$. Plus, I am not a fan of the looks.
My fears with the iPad 2 are
- no native video playback of divx/avi and I have no nerve to convert videos every time. Not sure if players like Azul work well. VLC has been pulled of the market and since there is no jailbreak as of yet it can't be installed
- No flash
- No tab browsing, not sure if there is a DECENT browser that can sort this out
- Document editing - I refuse to pay $9.95 each for pages and numbers and google docs doesn't seem to be a real solution either
- Just transferring files, I have this feeling that I will throw the thing out the window once I realise that I cannot save an email attachment and open it in different apps (please correct me here!!!)
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By the looks of it then the iPad 2 may not be worth your time, Are you going anywhere for holiday? Maybe you could pick one up then lol

Tim182 said:
Possibly. Customs can be a real ***** though. Bought my Galaxy S from overseas (I think I was the first to own one locally) but it cost me an arm and a leg.
I would buy the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in a heartbeat but who knows about the release date of a 3G version. Xoom is awesome but expensive for the 3G version $$$. Plus, I am not a fan of the looks.
My fears with the iPad 2 are
- no native video playback of divx/avi and I have no nerve to convert videos every time. Not sure if players like Azul work well. VLC has been pulled of the market and since there is no jailbreak as of yet it can't be installed
- No flash
- No tab browsing, not sure if there is a DECENT browser that can sort this out
- Document editing - I refuse to pay $9.95 each for pages and numbers and google docs doesn't seem to be a real solution either
- Just transferring files, I have this feeling that I will throw the thing out the window once I realise that I cannot save an email attachment and open it in different apps (please correct me here!!!)
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Get the transformer pad.

Just wait for your friend, ipad isn't worth to buy..
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Got the iPad. I must say, owning a tablet is great and the screen, design and built quality of the iPad 2 is really excellent. The rest, well, it sucks. Its a great device for browsing, reading and news apps but the rest sucks. After a few days with the device I can now appreciate just how far ahead Android is.
Anyway, still was a good decision to buy as I got the experience and they ran out of stock a few days after lauch. Selling it this week, at a 25% profit

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Got the iPad. I must say, owning a tablet is great and the screen, design and built quality of the iPad 2 is really excellent. The rest, well, it sucks. Its a great device for browsing, reading and news apps but the rest sucks. After a few days with the device I can now appreciate just how far ahead Android is.
Anyway, still was a good decision to buy as I got the experience and they ran out of stock a few days after lauch. Selling it this week, at a 25% profit
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Your advice is get the ipad and you have one for sale. convienient. lol. I smell a smooth salesman.

Tim182 said:
Got the iPad. I must say, owning a tablet is great and the screen, design and built quality of the iPad 2 is really excellent. The rest, well, it sucks. Its a great device for browsing, reading and news apps but the rest sucks. After a few days with the device I can now appreciate just how far ahead Android is.
Anyway, still was a good decision to buy as I got the experience and they ran out of stock a few days after lauch. Selling it this week, at a 25% profit
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you serious about the no tab browsing? you mean I can't have two pages open at the same time?

souljaboy said:
you serious about the no tab browsing? you mean I can't have two pages open at the same time?
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Sure you can, just not with the native Safari. I paid a buck for Atomic and couldn't be happier.

Ever thought of the Archos Internet Tablet 101?
I really like Archos

I don't regret buying the Nook.

I can honestly say, I don't regret buying the Nook. For me, the Nook has been one of the first devices that I've owned in the last 10 years that just gave me this feeling of... Wow.
My first modified device was an original PSX and back then... That was a big deal, one of the first systems to ever run emulators and play videos. I felt like I was getting so much bang for my buck back then. (Not including my "Backups"... Which made it safe to protect my games )
However, now that I feel like the Nook is just such a wonderful value, I find it really hard to rationalize other purchases because of it.
I don't own a Android phone, in fact I own a wannabe smartphone called the Samsung Rogue. Was pretty excited about getting one, as I was going to get a Droid X for HDMI output (Verizon). But, now Verizon is planning on limiting data and it kind of makes the Android just look far less attractive when I already carry the Nook Color around.
Then there's the prospect of other tablets and again, I'm swayed by the thought of HDMI output and Dual Core processors. But there's very few things my Nook Color can't do, and really it just comes down to video output.
So though I love my Nook Color and feel like every new development is a reassurance in my purchase... I feel a little robbed by how awesome it is ;p.

Agreed. I bought mine off of craigslist and really enjoy tweeking it as new work becomes available. I feel so reassured to have all these devs working to put cooler stuff day after day. I really enjoy this new hobby of mine.

Can't agree more. Love it.

Ditto... I can't get enough of my Nook. Now with Netflix I am so set.

Yeah I'm surprisingly enjoying mine too. The wife is happy that I now have netflix working on it too.
I just need to see if I can adjust to using it as a reader instead of a paper book.

I like mine too. I agonized over buying it because I don't even own a cell phone and $250 seemed like a lot of money for an e-reader that I would use to occasionally surf the internet with. But it's been a lot of fun so far. I still don't use it for a fraction of the things it's capable of but it's a great e-reader, is really good for web browsing and I'm pretty much addicted to Angry Birds.
The only bummer for me is that my Nook app stopped syncing with my library for some reason, so now I have to use the Kindle app. But it works.

Nook opened my eyes to andriod. I was a die hard iphonefan. I do wish I owned a real dual core honeycomb tab now though
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Is this to counter that other thread?

Gin1212 said:
I can honestly say, I don't regret buying the Nook. For me, the Nook has been one of the first devices that I've owned in the last 10 years that just gave me this feeling of... Wow.
My first modified device was an original PSX and back then... That was a big deal, one of the first systems to ever run emulators and play videos. I felt like I was getting so much bang for my buck back then. (Not including my "Backups"... Which made it safe to protect my games )
However, now that I feel like the Nook is just such a wonderful value, I find it really hard to rationalize other purchases because of it.
I don't own a Android phone, in fact I own a wannabe smartphone called the Samsung Rogue. Was pretty excited about getting one, as I was going to get a Droid X for HDMI output (Verizon). But, now Verizon is planning on limiting data and it kind of makes the Android just look far less attractive when I already carry the Nook Color around.
Then there's the prospect of other tablets and again, I'm swayed by the thought of HDMI output and Dual Core processors. But there's very few things my Nook Color can't do, and really it just comes down to video output.
So though I love my Nook Color and feel like every new development is a reassurance in my purchase... I feel a little robbed by how awesome it is ;p.
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One extremely good reason to get an android phone: Wifi hotspot. Then you can use your NC anywhere. I have the Fascinate on VZW, unrooted but with the hotspot unlocked (extremely easy to do). And if you sign up on unlimited, they will not convert you to a limited data plan, that's just for new subscribers. I signed up for unlimited data way back when, and when they converted to the 5gb cap, mine was still unlimited and I just do a NE2 and the plan stays exactly the same. I did a NE2 when they had the 5gb limit and I stayed unlimited as it gets grandfathered in.
That being said, I've never hit 5gb anyway...

If it does stay grandfathered-in, then I may very well stay with them. I don't really think I would go over the 5gb cap normally, however... I could very well see myself on a few road trips or vacations where I would use Netflix or one of the other streaming apps =\.

yup same here.... my wife bought me the Nook as a surprise.. she was a little shocked at the price... she has the original Nook, then she saw what I was doing with the flashed Nook... and was like WOW.... this is really good... I said yea.. compared to the cost of other tablets... that is a BIG YUPPERS!!!!

My wife regrets me buying the nook

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My wife regrets me buying the nook
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Weird... So does mine =\..

Apple Press Tricks aka the Ipad Mini

So when The Kindle fire came out, there was press about the ipad mini... this was dispelled by jobs a month later.
Now with the Google Nexus 7, wow.. the press go's wild again with ipad mini stories!
This vaporware they say will be out in Nov... funny they write just before google and amazon launch 7" tabs...
Pure play to keep the ipad users from jumping ship.

That's my guess, too. The ipad mini has a sucky resolution, so it's out for me anyway.

So what?
It would be a good product and this is for sure. Competition is always healthy and I like it. The only thing I hate about Apple is the patent war. Their products are awesome.
I have both google and apple devices and even microsoft. I don't like to restrict myself to one camp and get whatever is best available no matter from whom it is.

Steve Jobs is dead... what he brought to Apple died with him and no one in the world, not even Tim Cook will be able to replicate that. Everyday Apple is turning more corporate which is why we will see a smaller Ipad. If Steve was still alive, there wouldn't any question about a 4" screen in the iphone5, he would simply say "that is what the ipad is for".
Simply... profit is king.

The fact that it's being talked about in the google nexus section of the forum indicates what Apple is doing is working. Buzz about it is exactly what they want. Like they say, the only thing worse than somebody talking about your product is nobody talking about your product.
If it does get released, I know many that will buy it. The resolution doesn't matter to them, as other than the new iPad and the as yet unreleased-to-the-public Android 1920px tablets, they aren't really far behind. Most 10.1" android tablets are 1280x800, not a huge huge jump for them.

saadi703 said:
So what?
It would be a good product and this is for sure. Competition is always healthy and I like it. The only thing I hate about Apple is the patent war. Their products are awesome.
I have both google and apple devices and even microsoft. I don't like to restrict myself to one camp and get whatever is best available no matter from whom it is.
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The patent war is getting out of hand, its not just Apple although they do seem to be doing it more than most.
I own a mixture of manufactures products; Apple Macbook Pro laptop, Linux desktop, Samsung Android phone,Asus Android Tablet, Microsoft xbox.
I cant understand people who only buy from one manufacturer and never look anywhere else, my sister is a motorola loyalist, she has only ever owned Motorola phones and doesn't even consider any other make, when she was tablet shopping the only one she looked at was the Motorola Xoom. Personally I will buy the product that suits me best regardless of manufacture. the only reason I haven't tried a Win7 mobile yet is because I can't afford a decent one right now and testing out the OS with a bad phone will give me a negative impression.
I personally hope Apple do release a iPad mini, even though I have no intention of buying one, I just want to see more smaller/mid sized tablets coming out.

I actually think that the iPad Mini will be released this time, though. Apple can't just let their main competitor have the whole 7" market share, including the budget tablets (sub-$200). They're, of course, going to release a $200-250 iPad Mini to compete. Only they probably don't have the resources to make it as good as the Nexus 7. I'm guessing it will have the iPad 2 processor, a less crisp display, and, of course, be majorly locked down. But people will buy it because it's an Apple product.

I agree with "Simply... profit is king." thing is there is no margin in a 7" with google selling at cost. All it would do is pull sales from the 10" and loose them $$$
BamAlmighty said:
Steve Jobs is dead... what he brought to Apple died with him and no one in the world, not even Tim Cook will be able to replicate that. Everyday Apple is turning more corporate which is why we will see a smaller Ipad. If Steve was still alive, there wouldn't any question about a 4" screen in the iphone5, he would simply say "that is what the ipad is for".
Simply... profit is king.
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fenturi said:
I agree with "Simply... profit is king." thing is there is no margin in a 7" with google selling at cost. All it would do is pull sales from the 10" and loose them $$$
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They have the benefit of brand and vendor lock-in, so a $50-$100 premium is not off the table.
It could go either way, I think. But you're right about one thing: it's advantageous for Apple to leak this, regardless of whether they were making one or not. Any hesitation during which they can further lock-in their customers would only be beneficial to them.

fenturi said:
I agree with "Simply... profit is king." thing is there is no margin in a 7" with google selling at cost. All it would do is pull sales from the 10" and loose them $$$
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I think Apple could probably sell a 7" tablet at £300-350 (cheapest ipad is £399.00) sure its more than what the Nexus 7 and other 7" tablets cost, but people are willing to pay more purely because its Apple. Also if its marketed as a premium product like all Apple products are I could still see people buying it.

fenturi said:
So when The Kindle fire came out, there was press about the ipad mini... this was dispelled by jobs a month later.
Now with the Google Nexus 7, wow.. the press go's wild again with ipad mini stories!
This vaporware they say will be out in Nov... funny they write just before google and amazon launch 7" tabs...
Pure play to keep the ipad users from jumping ship.
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Press tricks with usual no press from apple. Blame the new companies.

markp1989 said:
I think Apple could probably sell a 7" tablet at £300-350 (cheapest ipad is £399.00) sure its more than what the Nexus 7 and other 7" tablets cost, but people are willing to pay more purely because its Apple. Also if its marketed as a premium product like all Apple products are I could still see people buying it.
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I pre ordered the n7 the day it was announced but I will also pick up an ipad mini when it comes out not just because it's an apple product but be a use of all the quality apps in the app store. I'm sure I'll love my n7 but the play store still has a ways to go before they can match the offering from the app store.
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iPad Mini?
Or iPod Maxi?

With Steve Jobs gone, I suspect this is a more real possibility than the past.
People don't only want 7 inch tablets just because they are cheaper. The 7 inch form factor is really nice, some people prefer it. Others would probably buy a second tablet to supplement their existing 10 inch tablet.
I'm sure Apple would have released a 7 inch tablet earlier if Steve Jobs hadn't so famously put his put in his mouth.

jtc276 said:
I actually think that the iPad Mini will be released this time, though. Apple can't just let their main competitor have the whole 7" market share, including the budget tablets (sub-$200). They're, of course, going to release a $200-250 iPad Mini to compete. Only they probably don't have the resources to make it as good as the Nexus 7. I'm guessing it will have the iPad 2 processor, a less crisp display, and, of course, be majorly locked down. But people will buy it because it's an Apple product.
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Apple absolutely has the resources to pull this off. Though if their past has any say in how they run things they won't be willing to take a profit loss on this, mainly because they have already programmed their user base to pay a premium for their products. Whether or not it actually comes to market, well we will see. I think though that this would be a mistake for them to bow to this pressure to take a profit loss on a device as they are still the market leader in tablet sales by a long shot and their fan base would eat up a seven incher to sit next to their ipad 3. People who are buying a 9.7 inch ipad and the people who are purchasing the a 7 inch tablet are looking for different experiences fundamentally and they'd be fools not to tap into this market.