The instructions to flash roms states that we have to fully charge our phone before flashing. Does that mean we have to bump charge to 100% or is a battery charged to 97% considered fully charged.
The full charge is a recommendation, not a requirement. Its likely your battery may not be calibrated correctly if you do not fully charge the battery first. There is a lot of complaining about a ROM killing batteries, after a flash. If you do not flash with a full battery, you should cycle the battery 3 or 4 times and/or calibrate the battery before making any observations or comments about the battery life of your ROM.
Personally when I flash a ROM I start with a odin flash to stock. Then I turn off the phone and charge to full with the phone off. Then boot into recovery, flash CWM (twice) and flash my ROM.
97% is probably fine, but keep in mind your mileage may vary.
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not comletely true...
if the phone is already calibrated (or doesnt need it) the battery is fine
the phone ALWAYS charges to 100% then stops charging
lets the phone run on battery power down to 95%
starts charging back to 100%
so depending how quickly you unplug it after it reaches 100% it will start to run down.....
Trusselo said:
not comletely true...
if the phone is already calibrated (or doesnt need it) the battery is fine
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So ... if your battery is calibrated, and you flash a new ROM, thus obliterating the file your phone uses to retain said calibration data, you phone will still remember the calibration info?
I wish I had your phone, mine behaves quite differently.
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I have flashed probably 60 times and have calibrated my battery about 5 - 6 times. I've had no issues with it at all.
npt1988 said:
The instructions to flash roms states that we have to fully charge our phone before flashing. Does that mean we have to bump charge to 100% or is a battery charged to 97% considered fully charged.
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It depends sometimes on the rom. Some of them charge full but don't show 100% when unplugged.
quarlow said:
So ... if your battery is calibrated, and you flash a new ROM, thus obliterating the file your phone uses to retain said calibration data, you phone will still remember the calibration info?
I wish I had your phone, mine behaves quite differently.
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where did i say that? read again....
dont be a F#uckin smart ass
here let me explain in easier to explain terms...
"if you just calibrated it or it doesnt need it because it is already calibrated......"
Trusselo said:
where did i say that? read again....
dont be a F#uckin smart ass
here let me explain in easier to explain terms...
"if you just calibrated it or it doesnt need it because it is already calibrated......"
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Thanks .... that added and changed nothing about your response.
Let me slow it down a notch. I said if you flash with low battery you *may* (I used "recommendation" due to using the word "may") have a calibration issue with your new ROM, until your battery is recalibrated. (Based on many hurried flashes) I followed that up with a disclaimer that not every phone behaves the same.
You said that is untrue because your battery constantly dances between 95 and 100% when left plugged in. Just like your newest response this serves absolutely no purpose in explaining where you disagree and why.
Once more for the hearing impaired: your battery stats is a file on your phone. Still with me? Okay. When you flash a new ROM, all the files on your phone are deleted. Still there? Good, I'm glad you're keeping up. So if you delete all files, how does your phone still have that file?
So I guess there are people that have phones that magically retain the battery stats file after deleting it. I was simply saying I want one like that, because mine doesn't do that.
Use your words, without resorting to name calling or cursing, if you don't want a sarcastic response.
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Except you're wrong. When you flash a rom it does not overwrite all files found on your phone. By running a master clear, you can clear out all system files and flash back to stock which will generate new files.
However, it is not necessary to run a master clear for all roms to be flashed. For example, I went from cognition to Paragon without running a master clear and its been a fantastic experience thus far. So, if you didnt run a master clear, your phone still retains its battery file and may take a while to learn its averages. Running a clear battery stats can help your phone learn faster.
To explain this further, take a look at a statistically normal distribution (bell shaped curve). Over time, your phone learns what 100% to 0% is an all in between. Well, over a long enough timeline, your battery starts to get closer to the average which means it will start to say that 98% is a full charge and continue to decline. Its just what happens with batteries. If you clear out this timeline, you start to generate new means. This will not restore the life of your battery but it will give your phone the ability to be more accurate about its current state.
Thank you for responding, including where you disagree.
I misunderstand what the screen and odin say when you flash. They both say they are clearing and wiping the data and cache. I almost never do a "Master Clear" from odin.
So when the ROM process says its wiping DATA, CACHE, SYSTEM etc. the respective folders on your phone aren't deleted? That is where I was getting the basis for my commemts. Along with observations when flashing ROMs. Like starting with 60%, using odin to go to stock, leaving md with half of what it said before, flashing a new ROM, and having that ROM say 80%. Then rebooting the phone to have 50%. Then plugging in and rebooting to see 80% again.
If I'm wrong I apologize. All the info I know from flashing ROMs is reading my screens, and interpreting my observations. Maybe my phone IS jacked up, it does this everytime I don't charge to full with the power off before I flash a new ROM.
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I didn't charge to full before I flashed either. I'm not an expert by any means but what I posted is my understanding of what happens.
As for what your phone says, who knows what I really is doing. I mean the general process is understood but the specific files and folders that are cleared would be hard to identify.
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i can only get my nexus s 4g to charge up to 97% if i have wireless tether enabled... otherwise it considers itself full at 95%
not sure whats up with that
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Not sure if this is a problem with the captivate (Rogers I897) or if it's just a select few, but I noticed last night despite the usb charger being plugged in overnight, once the battery reported full, it stopped charging.
So basically, I got home from work, plugged in my captivate because the battery was rather low (only takes 24 hours of maybe 30 mins to 1h of actual usage before I get below 40%), and it took 4-5 hours to charge completely. When I unplugged it in the morning though, it was already down to 64% with just being idle all night.
So is this normal or should I ask for a replacement battery or something?
There are a lot of posts around here about batterirs dying quickly, and "charge death", but I'm not really sure whats going on with your phone. All I can suggest is that you make sure that you close all apps and stuff before letting it idle, and just see how that goes. I suppose you could just have a bad battery. Are you on a custom ROM or stock? I had problems with battery life when I first flashed to a custom rom, but since then I've switched to serendipity 4.3, I have it undervolted, I keep an eye out with a task manager, and my phone has no problems lasting all day, even while texting a good amount/using it for searches and stuff.
What ROM are you running?
Did you have GPS/Bluetooth/Wireless left on?
There are known issues with certain builds of ROM's causing this issue. If your on a stock ROM and still having this issue? I would take it in to possibly have it warrantied out or at least have the battery replaced.
I haven't ever had an issue with my phone losing a charge while plugged in.
Yeah, stock ROM. I haven't installed any additional task managers, but I usually open it up and kill all tasks when I'm finished with them.
I do keep bluetooth and GPS off at all times, but I leave wifi on overnight because I didn't think the battery would stop charging entirely once it was full. I've only had the phone a week so I could get it replaced, I just wanted to investigate it a bit to see if it's a common issue or not before I did that.
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Yeah, stock ROM. I haven't installed any additional task managers, but I usually open it up and kill all tasks when I'm finished with them.
I do keep bluetooth and GPS off at all times, but I leave wifi on overnight because I didn't think the battery would stop charging entirely once it was full. I've only had the phone a week so I could get it replaced, I just wanted to investigate it a bit to see if it's a common issue or not before I did that.
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Settings --> Mobile and Network --> Wifi Settings --> Advanced (soft key) --> When screen turns off
This would turn off wifi after 15 mins of inactivity. This would help save ur battery.
And yes, charge does get cut off when left for extended times, but not right after it says charge full.
Recalibrate your battery/battery stats. This is my method, there are many others though:
1. Charge the phone with the phone ON, until the phone indicates full battery
2. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charging until full battery again (I repeat this 2-3 times)
3. Turn off phone, charge until full battery
4. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charing until full battery again (Again, I repeat 2-3 times)
5. Turn on the phone, let the phone charge yet again.
6. Boot into Android Recovery, delete battery stats (Advance -> Wipe Battery Stats)
flash to firefly. over 24 hours of battery
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More like 36 for me! No lie either.
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flash to firefly. over 24 hours of battery
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Recalibrate your battery/battery stats. This is my method, there are many others though:
1. Charge the phone with the phone ON, until the phone indicates full battery
2. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charging until full battery again (I repeat this 2-3 times)
3. Turn off phone, charge until full battery
4. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charing until full battery again (Again, I repeat 2-3 times)
5. Turn on the phone, let the phone charge yet again.
6. Boot into Android Recovery, delete battery stats (Advance -> Wipe Battery Stats)
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Cool, I'll try this, thanks!
By default, wifi does get turned off when the screen goes dark and I haven't changed it.
I've also been tring to flash to a new ROM (been trying Android 2.2), but Kies won't load my phone). I think I'll research other methods when I have time.
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Cool, I'll try this, thanks!
By default, wifi does get turned off when the screen goes dark and I haven't changed it.
I've also been tring to flash to a new ROM (been trying Android 2.2), but Kies won't load my phone). I think I'll research other methods when I have time.
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In most custom 9000 based ROMs, wifi is set to "never off" by default.
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In most custom 9000 based ROMs, wifi is set to "never off" by default.
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Ah! Didn't know that. I'm extremely new to this whole smartphone thing (just got mine a week ago) and haven't actually done any hardcore (stuff that requires flashing and whatnot) customizing yet.
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Ah! Didn't know that. I'm extremely new to this whole smartphone thing (just got mine a week ago) and haven't actually done any hardcore (stuff that requires flashing and whatnot) customizing yet.
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If u r not heavy on data and use it for things like mails and chats, and esp when in an area with no proper 3G coverage, u can switch to EDGE and get out of 3G. 3G sucks more battery compared to EDGE.
So I wasn't able to complete all the steps to kind of fix the battery problem, but I plugged it in to almost 100% (I think it was like 98% or something, I had to go out so I had to unplug it), but when I got back I plugged it in again and let it charge overnight. This morning however, it was still at 100%, and now, about 8.5 hours later, it's only at 73% so I think maybe it just had to normalize it.
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So I wasn't able to complete all the steps to kind of fix the battery problem, but I plugged it in to almost 100% (I think it was like 98% or something, I had to go out so I had to unplug it), but when I got back I plugged it in again and let it charge overnight. This morning however, it was still at 100%, and now, about 8.5 hours later, it's only at 73% so I think maybe it just had to normalize it.
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Give it some time to normalize. And charge showing 98% when unplugged at 100% is normal.
And yes, seeing 60% battery left after an hour of calls and tasks involving an hour plus of display on after a day's work, apart from push emails, etc (~14 hours standby) isn't so new anymore to me.
Stop watching the battery so closely for about a week and u'll be all set
I was on darkys 8.1 rom with jk4 modem, calibrated the battery one time and I went 18 hours. Starting from 98%
6 hours were phone calls, 1.5 hours of text messaging. 2 hours of power amp . The rest was pretty much just standby/idle time.
Though, I don't get that anymore though.. Jk4 has gone to **** for me. I used to get full signal majority of the time, and for places where other people go no bars, I got one or two. Now its pretty horrible it makes me sad ;(
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This seems to be quite a common and somewhat obscure at the same time.
Many people have reported installing a new rom or even just powering up their phone and seeing a battery % much different from what they expect. Most often much lower than it should be. Evidently this corrects itself after some time but it's a real problem if your display reads <15% because you really have to plug it in then, even with you know you have 90% battery!
So, here's the solution after testing it under different circumstances over a few days:
Simply boot your phone when it is not plugged in to a power source and battery % will be accurate.
That simple. Silly LG!
So, if you flash a new rom, unplug the USB cable before you reboot...
Hit 'Thanks' below for the 50 reboots I did to prove this...
hehehe jups allready figured that out on myself tho haha. But indeed that's kinda silly of LG
djmcnz said:
This seems to be quite a common and somewhat obscure at the same time.
Many people have reported installing a new rom or even just powering up their phone and seeing a battery % much different from what they expect. Most often much lower than it should be. Evidently this corrects itself after some time but it's a real problem if your display reads <15% because you really have to plug it in then, even with you know you have 90% battery!
So, here's the solution after testing it under different circumstances over a few days:
Simply boot your phone when it is not plugged in to a power source and battery % will be accurate.
That simple. Silly LG!
So, if you flash a new rom, unplug the USB cable before you reboot...
Hit 'Thanks' below for the 50 reboots I did to prove this...
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What about every time I use a custom rom the battery % indicator jumps right down to 90-95% when unplugging from charger ? Do you have a solution for that ?
reidar.ostrem said:
What about every time I use a custom rom the battery % indicator jumps right down to 90-95% when unplugging from charger ? Do you have a solution for that ?
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Try rebooting after you disconnect power.
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Try rebooting after you disconnect power.
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Sorry to say the same..
Even while charging with the phone shut down, pulling it off the charger and then booting this happens. On my phone I have experienced it on all MCR's.
It's really not a big deal as long as the battery performs as Stock 10b, that build has been stable batterywise on my phone. But staying stock isn't too much fun
Well, every time I charge, whether I reboot/shut down before unplugging or not, my charge always maxes out at 96%.
Annoying and I'd like it sorted if at all possible.
Anyone?..........lol
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ye i got that exact same issue i was wondering why that was happening and hoped that a simple reboot would fix it but its a bit more complicated than that i suppose...
also the battery reset in cwm didnt fix the loading till 97% w/e percentage.
when i install the stock rom it allows me to load it till 100% though pretty weird stuff -.-
mcnob said:
Well, every time I charge, whether I reboot/shut down before unplugging or not, my charge always maxes out at 96%.
Annoying and I'd like it sorted if at all possible.
Anyone?..........lol
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I had a replacement netbook battery that could only max to 90%. So, over the weekend, I practically drained it to 0% (not a healthy practice for Li-ion batteries but I was desperate). Took out the battery for a while, and then recharged for several hours. Well, it seems to get up to 100% now.
Perhaps you could try using the the phone until it very low on battery before recharging. Maybe the charging process in the phone needs some sort of recalibration. But should not be doing this all the time as it will reduce Li-ion battery longevity.
Let mine totally die last night so it wouldn't even turn on at all. Took out and replaced battery and then charged it overnight and hey-presto, when I unplugged it this morning, it stayed at 100%.
Solved indeed....for me anyway. Feel free to try the same and post your results.
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Let mine totally die last night so it wouldn't even turn on at all. Took out and replaced battery and then charged it overnight and hey-presto, when I unplugged it this morning, it stayed at 100%.
Solved indeed....for me anyway. Feel free to try the same and post your results.
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I'll be sure to try your tip man. But not easy drain it completely when I always need the phone :=)
I guys! I've got the same problem.
I think that it could depend on the "full battery popup FIX" that Paul introduced in his roms by the FR8.
So I would like to ask Paul if you can create a patch to remove that fix. Just to try it!
According to me, incorrect battery amount depend on a wrong voltage read error (offset introduced?) by the rom. :blink:
In my case, I have followed many times battery wype procedure without positive issue. The matter leaves only by flashing original roms.
I think that if Paul have written a wrong battery values range (to delete the battery full popup) that can be traduced in an incorrect battery status displays.
manciu said:
I guys! I've got the same problem.
I think that it could depend on the "full battery popup FIX" that Paul introduced in his roms by the FR8.
So I would like to ask Paul if you can create a patch to remove that fix. Just to try it!
According to me, incorrect battery amount depend on a wrong voltage read error (offset introduced?) by the rom. :blink:
In my case, I have followed many times battery wype procedure without positive issue. The matter leaves only by flashing original roms.
I think that if Paul have written a wrong battery values range (to delete the battery full popup) that can be traduced in an incorrect battery status displays.
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It was occurring before Paul introduced that change unfortunately...
After I wrote here, I registered a premium account to Paul's from modaco site and toke a custom fr12 rom without "battery full popup remove patch". Now I'm going to sleep and plugin the 2x to charge. Tomorrow I'll write here if is that the solution...
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It was occurring before Paul introduced that change unfortunately...
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I'm sure it's occured from fr8 in my case. With stock rom I haven't any battery problem so there is something wrong in fr raleases of course... I hope somebody discovers what is...
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After I wrote here, I registered a premium account to Paul's from modaco site and toke a custom fr12 rom without "battery full popup remove patch". Now I'm going to sleep and plugin the 2x to charge. Tomorrow I'll write here if is that the solution...
I'm sure it's occured from fr8 in my case. With stock rom I haven't any battery problem so there is something wrong in fr raleases of course... I hope somebody discovers what is...
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Perhaps, but you can not conclude it was introduced by MCR. You logic is wrong there.
Even without "battery full popup fix" it doesn't work good...
Battery level, when unpluged, stay at 100% for 2 minutes afterwards drop down fast until 85% then drain normally...
I'm getting huge battery display problems no matter what I do.
When I took it off the charger this morning, it said I had 100%... thats fair enough. However it stayed at 100% all day, so to "refresh" it this evening I restarted the phone, and low and behold it now says I have 27% left. But again, it's just sticking at that value, even with me now plugging the phone into the wall to charge. It simply says "Charging (27%)" and won't budge, likely until I restart the phone again.
Sometimes it works fine, it seemed to be doing ok last night before I put it on the charger. Any tips/suggestions? Is this something likely to be fixed when the Gingerbread update rolls around?
This is my first real smartphone, and am fairly annoyed as its giving me a fair few problems that I've not had from other electronic devices.
As I stated in another thread, I had the same issue while on MoDaCo Fr12. However, after reverting back to stock, the battery percentage is spot-on and I'm getting up to 48 hours use out of it.
Draw your own conclusions.
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That sounds super, but I'm still on stock too. About the only things of note I've done are root and switching to Launcher Pro. Oh, and Clockwork Mod of course. Perhaps a complete reboot is needed, we'll see how it goes.
Saying that - since charging, my phone has been at 90% all evening, until right this moment when it changed to 89%. It's less than I'd expect on this type of phone for 3-4 hours use (or lack thereof, I've barely touched it), but it's a start eh?
Welcome to the world of smartphones my friend. I've had various handsets over the last 4 years from iphone to android and a day and a half out of the battery is about average......at best. ;-)
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Just to clarify, what I meant in my previous post was that I was expecting to battery to drop a lot more than it did. The fact that it only went down 1% in several hours of use prompted me to think that the battery value was messed up.
As it is, I've not charged my phone in the 36 hours since, and it tells me I have 73% battery left. Perhaps it is performing extremely well after all? If that's the case then I'm more than happy with it, but being the pessimist I'm still expecting the phone to turn off sometime with the battery reporting incorrect values.
Heys Guys Im having an issue with my Captivate, its was working fine for the past week. It started giving me problems like battery temps too high, cant charge, had to charge it manually, removing battery & charging it all night. All this happened when im with stock rom latest with leaked 2.3.5
& i did unlock this with changing the 01 digit to 00 in efs file.
From the past 2 days im trying to install CM10,9, 10.1..... after installation it shuts down itself. Not able to use it.
Is there any way around to make this work. If pics are needed i can provide that too.
Thanks
No reply... :/
Some one should have had an issue.
vivek90 said:
Heys Guys Im having an issue with my Captivate, its was working fine for the past week. It started giving me problems like battery temps too high, cant charge, had to charge it manually, removing battery & charging it all night. All this happened when im with stock rom latest with leaked 2.3.5
& i did unlock this with changing the 01 digit to 00 in efs file.
From the past 2 days im trying to install CM10,9, 10.1..... after installation it shuts down itself. Not able to use it.
Is there any way around to make this work. If pics are needed i can provide that too.
Thanks
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When/how does it happen?
What are the changes/mods you made?
Did you restore anything?
Did you try different kernel settings?
Did you try flashing a different kernel (like Semaphore?) or flashing a different ROM?
I could be asking more questions but really, I dunno what causes it, I can only guess. Also a search in the CM10.1 thread might give you an answer to your SoD <-- Should've been your first step*
BWolf56 said:
When/how does it happen?
What are the changes/mods you made?
Did you restore anything?
Did you try different kernel settings?
Did you try flashing a different kernel (like Semaphore?) or flashing a different ROM?
I could be asking more questions but really, I dunno what causes it, I can only guess. Also a search in the CM10.1 thread might give you an answer to your SoD <-- Should've been your first step*
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It just happened, battery temp too high errors, thought flashing CM9 would solve this, was bored of Stock Gingerbread, flashed corn kernel & flashed cm9 rom. I did mod anything else. That all
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It just happened, battery temp too high errors, thought flashing CM9 would solve this, was bored of Stock Gingerbread, flashed corn kernel & flashed cm9 rom. I did mod anything else. That all
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Battery temp to high is a big problem. Did you overcloak? Have you running bunch of stuff at the same time?
When it shuts down, does it reboot by itself or you have to do it manually?
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Sounds like Battery health status does not equal healthy. That forces an immediate shutdown, whether due to temperature or excessive internal resistance. That's because once a Li ion battery reaches critical temperature, it combusts and destroys your phone, burns you and anything around it, etc.
GET ANOTHER BATTERY ASAP.
Stop trying to circumvent high temperature shut down.
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Battery temp to high is a big problem. Did you overcloak? Have you running bunch of stuff at the same time?
When it shuts down, does it reboot by itself or you have to do it manually?
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Recently i bought a new battery, original samsung make, it states the same thing "charging paused for battery durability" sometimes "Charging stopped battery temps high". No overclocking here, just used to call, receive & wifi hotspot. Currently i charge battery in a battery charger & use it in phone.
U pointed out something right, sometimes screen just goes blank, i have to manually switch it on.
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Sounds like Battery health status does not equal healthy. That forces an immediate shutdown, whether due to temperature or excessive internal resistance. That's because once a Li ion battery reaches critical temperature, it combusts and destroys your phone, burns you and anything around it, etc.
GET ANOTHER BATTERY ASAP.
Stop trying to circumvent high temperature shut down..........
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I bought a new battery & it states the same thing "charging paused for battery durability" sometimes "Charging stopped battery temps high".
But im not able to under stand, why is Cynogenmod shuts down itself after installation, can i just stop shutting down ?
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Recently i bought a new battery, original samsung make, it states the same thing "charging paused for battery durability" sometimes "Charging stopped battery temps high". No overclocking here, just used to call, receive & wifi hotspot. Currently i charge battery in a battery charger & use it in phone.
U pointed out something right, sometimes screen just goes blank, i have to manually switch it on.
I bought a new battery & it states the same thing "charging paused for battery durability" sometimes "Charging stopped battery temps high".
But im not able to under stand, why is Cynogenmod shuts down itself after installation, can i just stop shutting down ?
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I think it's not CM related but hardware related. Does this happen when not using the wifi hotspot too?
I'm thinking your battery is bad (even if new), charger is bad, connection is bad (maybe from water/humidity) or that your usb port is bad. No easy way of finding it other than testing.
BWolf56 said:
I think it's not CM related but hardware related. Does this happen when not using the wifi hotspot too?
I'm thinking your battery is bad (even if new), charger is bad, connection is bad (maybe from water/humidity) or that your usb port is bad. No easy way of finding it other than testing.
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May be yes, the phone some times just goes blank, i have to manually switch ON. The same battery works well in my frnds phone quite well.
Port dont know, i can copy files no errors even now when i plug it in on stock gingerbread the battery doesnt charge but can copy files as before.
Since the batt works well in other phone, a couple of ideas. Perhaps silly to ask, but just checking:
did you wipe battery stats in cwm after flashing?
did you clean the phone's battery terminals with a bit of alcohol?
what's the battery health,temperature and voltage history look like, if you can get it. you can log it with battery monitor widget or similar app. set to short 1 minute interval for testing.
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I have 2 batteries and one broken phone, I use the broken phone to charge the extra battery. If I reboot my phone with a battery with a perfectly good charge when it reboots it shows the battery is dying? If I put the battery in the other phone and charge the status says the battery has a charge, not sure what is wrong?
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I have 2 batteries and one broken phone, I use the broken phone to charge the extra battery. If I reboot my phone with a battery with a perfectly good charge when it reboots it shows the battery is dying? If I put the battery in the other phone and charge the status says the battery has a charge, not sure what is wrong?
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My guess: Your broken phone doesn't actually charge your battery or at least, not fully. It might think it's fully charged at a very low %.
It could also just be the os not reading the charge correctly. I've had it happen on numerous occasions where I'll reboot my phone and the charge drops by 20-30% after reboot. But if I continue to use it without charging or rebooting the percentage will eventually increase or at the very least stay at one level for an extended time.
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My guess: Your broken phone doesn't actually charge your battery or at least, not fully. It might think it's fully charged at a very low %.
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Well when I take it out of the broken phone and put it in the good one, the good one says its fully charged too. The only reason the charging phone is broken is cause the IMEI is toast.
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It could also just be the os not reading the charge correctly. I've had it happen on numerous occasions where I'll reboot my phone and the charge drops by 20-30% after reboot. But if I continue to use it without charging or rebooting the percentage will eventually increase or at the very least stay at one level for an extended time.
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It doesnt increase, just dies......... tried charging the battery to 100% turned off then ran battery optimization app, used the phone for a while and rebooted it at about 60% and after the phone rebooted it said the battery was at 2%
poprocksncoke said:
Well when I take it out of the broken phone and put it in the good one, the good one says its fully charged too. The only reason the charging phone is broken is cause the IMEI is toast.
It doesnt increase, just dies......... tried charging the battery to 100% turned off then ran battery optimization app, used the phone for a while and rebooted it at about 60% and after the phone rebooted it said the battery was at 2%
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You should probably stop rebooting, let it die and fully charge it. Might need to recalibrate your battery stats too.
As for your IMEI being toast, you can flash stock KK4 to fix it.
BWolf56 said:
You should probably stop rebooting, let it die and fully charge it. Might need to recalibrate your battery stats too.
As for your IMEI being toast, you can flash stock KK4 to fix it.
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Thats what I did was let it die and fully charge and used the battery recalibration app to change the stats. then rebooted later and lost all my battery?
Have tried flashing stock KK4 with no luck on it, now its just an expensive charger
poprocksncoke said:
Thats what I did was let it die and fully charge and used the battery recalibration app to change the stats. then rebooted later and lost all my battery?
Have tried flashing stock KK4 with no luck on it, now its just an expensive charger
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Ok.. maybe we've been missled this entire time. What's the highest battery consumption in settings->battery?
Also, you could get betterbatterystats app to help trigger what's draining your battery.
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Ok.. maybe we've been missled this entire time. What's the highest battery consumption in settings->battery?
Also, you could get betterbatterystats app to help trigger what's draining your battery.
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I will dl betterbatterystats tonight and see what comes up. I dont know what you mean by being missled tho?
poprocksncoke said:
I will dl betterbatterystats tonight and see what comes up. I dont know what you mean by being missled tho?
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Well what I'm starting to think is that the way you charge your battery has nothing to do with it. The OP missled me to think that it was coming from your broken phone. It might come from your phone (or app/setting on your phone).
Imo, backup your apps and such (after finding out what's draining your battery), flash back to stock and start from there to get back to your ROM.
How old are the batteries?
Do they both report the same percentage immediately after boot and after comparable use for a similar amount of time?
They are only good for 500 to 1000 cycles. A dying battery will appear fully charged when on the charger but quickly drop to a lower voltage when used.
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Well what I'm starting to think is that the way you charge your battery has nothing to do with it. The OP missled me to think that it was coming from your broken phone. It might come from your phone (or app/setting on your phone).
Imo, backup your apps and such (after finding out what's draining your battery), flash back to stock and start from there to get back to your ROM.
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Looks like the major drain on my battery is MediaScannerService and AudioOut_2?
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Looks like the major drain on my battery is MediaScannerService and AudioOut_2?
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Eh yeah, I would highly suggest backing up, going back to stock and reflashing your way up.
MediaScannerService is probably cause your SD card is a mess, a factory reset usually helps for that. AudioOut_2 is weird though, do you have clicks sounds on?
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Eh yeah, I would highly suggest backing up, going back to stock and reflashing your way up.
MediaScannerService is probably cause your SD card is a mess, a factory reset usually helps for that. AudioOut_2 is weird though, do you have clicks sounds on?
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I do have clicks sounds on.
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I do have clicks sounds on.
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Run a full battery cycle without it on. I'm pretty sure I saw this issue before.
For the media, it can be a few things but cleaning your SD card can help a lot.
BWolf56 said:
Eh yeah, I would highly suggest backing up, going back to stock and reflashing your way up.
MediaScannerService is probably cause your SD card is a mess, a factory reset usually helps for that. AudioOut_2 is weird though, do you have clicks sounds on?
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I did a factory data reset from my phone, still on Slim ROM and phone cant access external SD card now
poprocksncoke said:
I did a factory data reset from my phone, still on Slim ROM and phone cant access external SD card now
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What's the error? You external might've been the problem all along. I would suggest to copy the files that are on it to your pc and format it, see if it works.
Wipe battery stats in clockwork mod recovery and check. I hope your issue might resolve by wiping battery stats..
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What's the error? You external might've been the problem all along. I would suggest to copy the files that are on it to your pc and format it, see if it works.
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no error, just doesnt show up. connect to pc and it doesnt show up there either?
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no error, just doesnt show up. connect to pc and it doesnt show up there either?
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Connect it directly to your pc (not through the phone) and see if that works. I'm pretty sure your external needs reformat.
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Connect it directly to your pc (not through the phone) and see if that works. I'm pretty sure your external needs reformat.
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I dont have anything to connect it to my pc with. anyway to reformat it through the phone?
Just when I think I've got it all setup nicely...
Latest AOSIP rom with Hellscore kernel, stock settings greenify, full discharge and recharge, all seemed so good....
And then boom. Go to reboot to recovery and I get the little empty battery icon upon reboot - but I was at around 40%?!
I use the battery calibration app, for what it's worth knowing the debate about the battery stats file. I've done the bootloader logs 'trick' and still I get a random occurrence like this?!
Anyone else been plagued with this randomly happening to them?
There are so many reasons it can happen. on thing id recommend is install ampere form play. Using this you should be able to monitor the voltage of the battery and at least know that it is operating within the correct range. if your 0% voltage is too high, it could rule some stuff out.
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There are so many reasons it can happen. on thing id recommend is install ampere form play. Using this you should be able to monitor the voltage of the battery and at least know that it is operating within the correct range. if your 0% voltage is too high, it could rule some stuff out.
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Many thanks for the suggestion, gonna give that a try now!
cd993 said:
Many thanks for the suggestion, gonna give that a try now!
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Cool. Just periodically check the app and jot down the percentage and voltage. keep doing that until its ready to shut down. preferably a reading every 10-15% if you can but really important is to try and capture readings just before and after any drop off you may see.
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Cool. Just periodically check the app and jot down the percentage and voltage. keep doing that until its ready to shut down. preferably a reading every 10-15% if you can but really important is to try and capture readings just before and after any drop off you may see.
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Perfect thanks for the advice, I've got it installed and now juts doing a full charge.
Following that drop out, the device then reported 7% battery so I let that go flat and now fully recharging.
If it's the case that there is something going on here, how can the issue be corrected? Does Ampere help configure reported VS actual readings, or does it purely show what's being drained?
cd993 said:
Perfect thanks for the advice, I've got it installed and now juts doing a full charge.
Following that drop out, the device then reported 7% battery so I let that go flat and now fully recharging.
If it's the case that there is something going on here, how can the issue be corrected? Does Ampere help configure reported VS actual readings, or does it purely show what's being drained?
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Its worth getting a voltage reading now too then, to see if it is as low as expected. As for solution, we need a root cause first.
rootSU said:
Its worth getting a voltage reading now too then, to see if it is as low as expected. As for solution, we need a root cause first.
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Ok here is my first screen. I'd browsed Facebook (web version) and watched a video or 2, battery dropped to 97% soon after.
Yep. Just keep going. Every 10% is fine. No more than that. Actual battery charge is voltage so we just want to see if there are any conflicting data sets later on
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Yep. Just keep going. Every 10% is fine. No more than that. Actual battery charge is voltage so we just want to see if there are any conflicting data sets later on
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Thank you, I'll keep you posted.
danarama said:
Yep. Just keep going. Every 10% is fine. No more than that. Actual battery charge is voltage so we just want to see if there are any conflicting data sets later on
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It just did it again!!?
I had even doing the Ampere monitoring but didn't go all the way down. But today I just experienced the random drop out again. Strangely when I booted back up, it was as if the cache had been wiped as the Android Optimising app screen came on.
This was from the other day though, if this helps?
The other day did it seem to deplete normally? I'm around 20%/right now and see similar voltage to you.
Sometimes my phone used to crash and when it booted up I had this graph / drainage issue. It's as if it goes into some manic sleep that kills everything. What you've got here seems similar. I don't think there's an issue with the battery cycle itself.
I'd be tempted to do a factory reset and start clean to be honest.
Is the back of your N6 lifting away from the frame? I had this issue too and ended up doing a RMA because the battery was bulging.
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The other day did it seem to deplete normally? I'm around 20%/right now and see similar voltage to you.
Sometimes my phone used to crash and when it booted up I had this graph / drainage issue. It's as if it goes into some manic sleep that kills everything. What you've got here seems similar. I don't think there's an issue with the battery cycle itself.
I'd be tempted to do a factory reset and start clean to be honest.
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Weird and annoying isn't it!
I've recently flashed this new rom and so has been a fresh start so I'm kind of at a loss as to what to try next.
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Is the back of your N6 lifting away from the frame? I had this issue too and ended up doing a RMA because the battery was bulging.
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Just took off my case and checked and all seems normal, back doesn't appear to be coming away and seems to be ok.
It's times like this I miss my good old Note 3, never had a battery life like it for its flat lining ability!! (see attached)
If it were the battery capacity due to bloating, I would expect to see the Voltage value to be wrong
Go back to stock and run it with no restored apps / data. If it still happens RMA
cd993 said:
Just when I think I've got it all setup nicely...
Latest AOSIP rom with Hellscore kernel, stock settings greenify, full discharge and recharge, all seemed so good....
And then boom. Go to reboot to recovery and I get the little empty battery icon upon reboot - but I was at around 40%?!
I use the battery calibration app, for what it's worth knowing the debate about the battery stats file. I've done the bootloader logs 'trick' and still I get a random occurrence like this?!
Anyone else been plagued with this randomly happening to them?
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Your battery calibration is messed up. It happens.
DO NOT waste your time with "battery calibration app" -- there is NO software you can install and run from Android that will have ANY impact AT ALL on the battery calibration. All those "battery calibration" programs do, is delete the battery stats file, and all the battery stats file does, is store a log of what programs are responsible for how much resource utilization -- nothing at all to do with calibration.
Battery calibration reset is done through the BOOTLOADER.
Reboot your phone to bootloader. Scroll to "bootloader logs". Press and hold power button until the phone shuts down.
And that is all there is to it.
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Your battery calibration is messed up. It happens.
DO NOT waste your time with "battery calibration app" -- there is NO software you can install and run from Android that will have ANY impact AT ALL on the battery calibration. All those "battery calibration" programs do, is delete the battery stats file, and all the battery stats file does, is store a log of what programs are responsible for how much resource utilization -- nothing at all to do with calibration.
Battery calibration reset is done through the BOOTLOADER.
Reboot your phone to bootloader. Scroll to "bootloader logs". Press and hold power button until the phone shuts down.
And that is all there is to it.
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Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately, I have tried this many times and so there must be more to it than this. On my latest rom, I had wiped phone and clean flashed whilst phone was connected and at 100%. Therefore a new clean install whilst phone was at 100%. I cleaned that stats (for what it was worth) and also did the bootloader logs trick. I would have thought that would have solved the issue, but as reported it still happened.
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Thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately, I have tried this many times and so there must be more to it than this. On my latest rom, I had wiped phone and clean flashed whilst phone was connected and at 100%. Therefore a new clean install whilst phone was at 100%. I cleaned that stats (for what it was worth) and also did the bootloader logs trick. I would have thought that would have solved the issue, but as reported it still happened.
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Your calibration is fine because the % matches up to the voltage, which is all calibration matches.
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Your calibration is fine because the % matches up to the voltage, which is all calibration matches.
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Thanks yeah, I thought as much.
The question remains then..... What in earth causes these drop outs!
cd993 said:
Thanks yeah, I thought as much.
The question remains then..... What in earth causes these drop outs!
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It's hard to say. It seems like the system may be crashing or something at that time and causing an inordinate drain. Thats what mine used to do sometimes.