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I'm talking iPhone 4 smooth. I played with it today. (No, I'm not a fanboy of either side, but I prefer Android!)
I'm usually using either Sense's Rosie, or when on froyo, LauncherPro.
I am a heavy widget user, and have either full screen or 2-3 widgets per screen.
The feel that you get when you launch an app on iPhone... just feels... like its popping up instead of zooming.
Anything you guys could recommend? Any specific ROM's?
ROM's I have tried:
Desire R22.1
RoDrIgUeZsTyLe
Stock 2.2
Launcher pro, or adw launcher. I personally prefer launcher pro, it also had some really nice extra features.
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Also regarding popping up instead of zooming if you are rooted, check out the spare parts app settings for the transition animations. Set them to fast if you wantt apps to pretty much pop instantly.
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ssj4vegita2002 said:
Also regarding popping up instead of zooming if you are rooted, check out the spare parts app settings for the transition animations. Set them to fast if you wantt apps to pretty much pop instantly.
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+1, what you're feeling is not related to the launcher, or the speed of the OS, it's just a design choice about the speed of the transitions. I agree with you so I made the transition speed about 30% faster [try to do that on an iPhone...]
I personally use Launcher Pro. It's absurdly fast. I've tried to get it to lag just to see what it would take but it's super responsive and won't miss a frame even if you want it to. The feature-set of Launcher Pro is quickly approaching that for ADW and it's much more polished.
I find both Launcher Pro and ADW.Launcher to be insanely fast too. I'm not sure about the OP, but if you are using a Live Wallpaper, try it with just a static one, then it is perfectly smooth while scrolling.
x986123 said:
I'm talking iPhone 4 smooth. I played with it today. (No, I'm not a fanboy of either side, but I prefer Android!)
I'm usually using either Sense's Rosie, or when on froyo, LauncherPro.
I am a heavy widget user, and have either full screen or 2-3 widgets per screen.
The feel that you get when you launch an app on iPhone... just feels... like its popping up instead of zooming.
Anything you guys could recommend? Any specific ROM's?
ROM's I have tried:
Desire R22.1
RoDrIgUeZsTyLe
Stock 2.2
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try cyanogen, can't get any smoother than that.
it comes with ADWLauncher which is nice too.
anstosa said:
+1, what you're feeling is not related to the launcher, or the speed of the OS, it's just a design choice about the speed of the transitions. I agree with you so I made the transition speed about 30% faster [try to do that on an iPhone...]
I personally use Launcher Pro. It's absurdly fast. I've tried to get it to lag just to see what it would take but it's super responsive and won't miss a frame even if you want it to. The feature-set of Launcher Pro is quickly approaching that for ADW and it's much more polished.
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My launcherPro lags when I have 2-3 widgets per page. I am using IntersectRaven's kernel, maybe it's that?
In Launcher Pro, set "memory usage" to "high".
HelixLauncher on 2.1 is the smoothest I've found. Unfortunately it doesn't work on 2.2 so I'm using ADW on Froyo.
I have a bought a Motorola Milestone 6 months back..currently I am running Foryo (GOT version) with overclock (1 Ghz).
After seeing galaxy I am thinking to change to Galaxy ( or iPhone 4, if it becomes available and affordable at my place, which is unlikely ) but I am confused whether it is a wise decision to upgrade to Galaxy.
Please suggest.
I switched from a non-overclocked Milestone with 2.1 to HTC Desire HD, and the performance increase is insane. Widgets, home screen, apps, games - everything runs so much faster.
I can't compare this with 1GHz OCed Milestone as i didn't overclock my phone, but compared to stock, it is a very, very big jump in performance.
mav3rick96 said:
I have a bought a Motorola Milestone 6 months back..currently I am running Foryo (GOT version) with overclock (1 Ghz).
After seeing galaxy I am thinking to change to Galaxy ( or iPhone 4, if it becomes available and affordable at my place, which is unlikely ) but I am confused whether it is a wise decision to upgrade to Galaxy.
Please suggest.
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Run a benchmark test on your 1ghz milestone and run one on a Galaxy S or search the internet for benchmark test results for that phone and compare them
I personally run a milestone on a 800mhz cpu and it runs pretty smooth...
If you do a lot of reading on your Milestone, avoid the Galaxy S, which uses a terrible pentile matrix sub-pixel system. Essentially, you get 33% fewer sub-pixels than your average 800x480 RGB LCD. Small text looks awful, and everything is just "strange" looking after awhile, once the novelty of the oversaturated colors and really nice blacks wears off.
Should you demand more pure speed, your logical upgrade is the Milestone 2, or if you don't mind the lack of true multi-touch, the S-LCD Desire is worth looking at. Be prepared for a big downgrade in touchscreen accuracy though.
The voodoo color fix has vastly improved text sharpness. I agree though, it is pretty bad out of the box.
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Hi,
I just got my Nexus S, and so far so good.
I installed LauncherPro and unlocked the Plus version as well.
But, it seems I don't see smooth buttery scrolling of the home screen.
My LauncherPro settings:
- Keep in memory = checked
- Enable scrollable widget = checked
- Number of home screen = 5
- Number of dock = 1
- Use 4 rows and 4 columns
- Memory profile = High
- Elastic scrolling = No
- High quality scrolling = No
- Minimum scrolling speed = 50
It is fast though, but it just not smooth ...
Am I expecting too much?
Update:
I don't know how to explain it, but something like this:
I can still see the "steps" when scrolling home screen (I am not using transition effect).
Horizontal scrolling movement by positioning the x coordinate of screen-image:
x := x + 10 ... this is fast, but not smooth as you can see the 10 pixels movement steps
x := x + 1 ... this is smooth, but might not be fast
I am hoping the LauncherPro re-write will greatly improve this, or utilizing the GPU if possible (NOT!).
Launcher pro kinda sucks now. The Guy hasn't supported it for a while now. I would stick with the stock or adw
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I would give ADW a try later.
How do you deactivate LauncherPro?
Just go into apps manager, go to LauncherPro app and "clear defaults". Once you hit the home button again you'll be given a choice of which home launcher to launch.
LP is buttery smooth for me.
The guy who coded it says he's rewriting it from scratch as the current version is based on Google's stock launcher and what he wants todo is inefficient with google's code. It's why I don't use it since gingerbread.
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Lp plus is smooth as ever for me
gogol said:
I would give ADW a try later.
How do you deactivate LauncherPro?
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Adw launcher ex to be exact. Its different from the original version
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It's not as smooth as LP is on the Vibrant or Nexus One... that's a fact. It still is smoother than most launchers, but until he updates it for the Nexus S, it won't be as smooth. Although using an overclock kernel helps =)
LauncherPro+ had appalling stutter on my Nexus S (particularly during the leap animation), but I found it was fine after setting the Memory usage preset to Medium and changing the Homescreen cache type to Compressed.
Adjusting the ondemand CPU governor in SetCPU (Sampling rate 20000, Up Threshold 50) helped as well.
LauncherPro has always been very smooth for me. I prefer the features of ADW, but scrolling is a bit choppy on my nexus s (with cm7 rom). On LP, I use the 'low' memory usage setting with 5 homescreens & lots of Widgets
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launcher pro vs adw ex
I tried to use ADW ex and loved it just found myself going back to launcher pro plus because of the sense like widgets (bookmarks, twitter, facebook, calendar, friends). I know that I can find widgets separately but none have looked as good as these and been scrollable too. I like the transitions of ADW and all the customizations but yeah just not enough to get me away from launcher pro.
The one thing that bothers me about LP is how the 3D app effect is laggy.
Same here, my LauncherPro on my Nexus S isn't nearly as smooth as it was on my Nexus One. I've switched to ADW Launcher EX and then wasn't happy with the app drawer performance and now I'm using Go Launcher. Pretty satisfied with Go Launcher and it's free so whatever. But I really hope the LauncherPro rewrite solves all the problems with it being slow and such.
Stock launcher is lightweight and easy
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go launcher definitely feels smoother than LP.
Just be weary of GO Launcher's permission requests. Seems to be a whole lot.
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Just be weary of GO Launcher's permission requests. Seems to be a whole lot.
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Yeah that's one of three reasons I've not tried our yet. I find it strange for it to need all of them
Agree, it is even slower than on my HTC Desire ...
And I don't have much widgets on it ...
Yeah, I think this is just Nexus S ... smoothness is not one of it's features.
I can live with it, and the "waiting game" for an update from Google is nice
Especially if I can walk into all my Android friend owners who still stuck in 2.2 or less
dinan said:
It's not as smooth as LP is on the Vibrant or Nexus One... that's a fact. It still is smoother than most launchers, but until he updates it for the Nexus S, it won't be as smooth. Although using an overclock kernel helps =)
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lynkx said:
Just be weary of GO Launcher's permission requests. Seems to be a whole lot.
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Thanks for the warning... I uninstalled it and went back to LP.
I have a tab and a xoom on route and i have until tomorrow to decide which i will keep.
The Xoom has good ICS ROMs and is smooth to use, no lag, no jitter, but is rather heavy.
The Tabs ive used in stores are laggy, and it seems to be the way the are, but is it really that bad? I cant live with it if it is.
Its bad with stock firmware. With ICS rom its a lot better.
Personally I don't think it's that bad and it can easily be sorted by changing away from the Samsung TouchWiz launcher to another like ADW Launcher Ex or GO Launcher HD for Pad from Play Google; remember also that the number of active widgets and live wallpaper affects the lag. Samsung are also going to release ICS soon and I'd expect the lag issue to be mostly eliminated.
That fixes the launcher lag, but not the browser lag or lag in games and maps (which is SLOW compared to my Galaxy S2 or the Xoom). Even the ICS ROMs still seem to be slow from videos ive seen.
rovex said:
That fixes the launcher lag, but not the browser lag or lag in games and maps (which is SLOW compared to my Galaxy S2 or the Xoom). Even the ICS ROMs still seem to be slow from videos ive seen.
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I've not had any issues with the browser or maps. Are you referring to loading or swiping? In both cases they are both quick and smooth. Are you comparing full desktop web browsing on the S2 and the GT? There's clearly a difference in the amount of content affecting loading and swiping; that also applies to maps. Additionally the store models are probably running HoneyComb 3.1.
The Xoom is officially at ICS now whereas the 8.9 is not, this is why the custom ROMs still need work, so it's difficult to judge the 2 devices fairly aside from the fact the the Xoom does not have bloatware.
Swiping.
Once on ICS i want to use Apex launcher as i do with my SGS2 and for now ill be happy with ADW EX on Honeycomb. Rooting and ROMing is no problem for me i must have flashed my S2 100 times! Of course the S2 is much much more powerful than the tab, but even with full desktop browsing its like butter, so is the Xoom (even on 3.1), the 8.9 is like gravel.
That's interesting because I've never had a problem swiping in the stock or Dolphin browsers; they've been smooth for me; did you visit sites using flash and was the flash plug-in up to date? If you get the chance to play with them both first then I'd do that to decide but the main reason I bought the 8.9 was the form factor with any lag not bothering me at all for the main functions of surfing and reading books/magazines; video playback is also excellent but I don't watch 720p video files on it, only 480p; the highest quality video I've watched is probably via Netflix.
Stock browser on HC is crap, scrolling up and down is a pain. It is crap on gt8.9 and its even worse on gt7.7. Anyone saying it works and is good just haven't used anything else. Try the ICS rom and you will see how fast the stock browser is.
The lag you see in launcher is a known hardware problem with Tegra 2. Only difference in the case of gt8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees, so we have this problem in landscape where its more obvious, all other Tegra 2 tablets have the same problem in portrait.
I have spent about 2 hours in various stores playing with them. The Tab is much much nicer to hold and look at, but the Xoom was silky smooth.
I assume once ICS gets an official release TW will be stripped out in most ROMs. In the mean time which current ICS is better, the AOSP or the AOKP?
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Stock browser on HC is crap, scrolling up and down is a pain. It is crap on gt8.9 and its even worse on gt7.7. Anyone saying it works and is good just haven't used anything else. Try the ICS rom and you will see how usable a browser can be. ICS browser is a lot faster then the HC browser.
The lag you see in launcher is a known hardware problem with Tegra 2. Only difference in the case of gt8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees, so we have this problem in landscape where its more obvious, all other Tegra 2 tablets have the same problem in portrait.
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I have read that before and tried both in both orientations. The Xoom was still smoother even in portrait than the 8.9 was. Doesnt that mean the 8.9 is permanently doomed? I will be using it in Landscape all the time.
rovex said:
I have read that before and tried both in both orientations. The Xoom was still smoother even in portrait than the 8.9 was. Doesnt that mean the 8.9 is permanently doomed? I will be using it in Landscape all the time.
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Was the Xoom running ICS? I had a Xoom and it had the problem in portrait. Portrait was unusable with android 3.0, it got better with every next version, but the problem was still there with Android 3.2. Dont know about ICS, i sold my Xoom a long time ago.
I'm not sure if the gt8.9 is exactly doomed. I have seen a silky smooth stock ICS launcher on gt8.9, so it certainly is possible to get it to run smoothly and fast. This was on one of the alpha ICS builds we made, unfortunately we could not find out what caused the launcher to become so smooth and it was lost in later builds. Of cource the current ICS build is also a lot better then stock HC.
The xoom was also running 3.1, same as the tab, because they were store units.
Its a shame that the hardware puts me off the Xoom a little, but the Software puts me off the tab. Im not allowed to use whichever unit i choose to send back, so its going to come down to whether the Xoom appeals when in my hand tomorrow.
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The xoom was also running 3.1, same as the tab, because they were store units.
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Xoom with HC certainly has this problem, try a google search if you don't believe me. Its not as bad as gt8.9, but its there.
Yeah it was certainly there, but much less obvious and i wont be using portrait much anyway. This is the tabs problem, it does it in landscape and its worse.
rovex said:
Yeah it was certainly there, but much less obvious and i wont be using portrait much anyway. This is the tabs problem, it does it in landscape and its worse.
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Yeah, i don't understand why samsung choose to rotate the screen, they must have known about the Tegra 2 limitation.
Its worse on gt8.9 with stock rom, thats probably because their own toutchwiz modifications. Its a lot better with vanilla ICS.
Is it a permanent hardware issue or is the rotation a software thing? Can we undo it?
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Is it a permanent hardware issue or is the rotation a software thing? Can we undo it?
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Its a hardware issue, but like i said, it seems to be possible to overcome it in software. And like someone already said, other third party launchers seem to work just fine.
I came from the Asus Transformer 101. I thought all Android tablets were just by nature laggy. I was very surprised to get the 8.9 and find that it was quite smooth compared to the Transformer. After rooting and getting ICS I think that this is about all you can expect from a tablet. Very smooth and very snappy. Very few if any force closes. Needless to say, I am totally sold on the Galaxy Tabs.
I only really notice the lag on the homescreen... Once in apps and stuff it's fine, so it's never been a problem for me. Android users put too much emphasis on the home screens when all they're for is to get you between apps. It's also not that bad anyway, you get used to it. As long as you don't use a live wallpaper you stop noticing it unless you're comparing it to an iPad or a faster tab.
The Xoom is good for speed, yeah, it's one of the few Android tabs out there that runs the OS smoothly. Sad truth is, most Android tabs don't run that well, you rarely see ones which don't have at least a bit of lag on the homescreens. Xoom is one of the better ones for speed, but Galaxy Tabs are far thinner and lighter than anything else, so that's the compromise you've got to choose - lighter and laggier or heavier and faster? Swings and roundabouts.
But yeah, you can speed this tab up with different roms, and it will be updated to ICS soon. For me it's all about this tab's small size (without being as awkwardly small as a 7 inch tab), lightweight build and awesome screen. Xoom performs well but I never liked its form factor or its washed-out screen.
Well i think i will try the Tab and use Overcomes ROM and ADW EX while we wait for Samsung to get ICS out (and the better ROMs that will follow from devs.. ). ADW is familiar, i used it on my S2 until ICS arrived.
Now need to research the best Kernels, as i love overclocking and tweaking.
i just flashed my phone with ICS 4.0.4 EXTRAordinary_4.0.4_beta9 and installed 2 games doodle jump and fruit ninja, i noticed that the games were not as sharper as before, i compared it with my friend's SGS who is on stock 2.3.3 n i was rite, the apps were much sharper on his phone...
i tried dark knight rom before this and the apps were fine in it
please suggest a solution to this, its really annoying to have a nice OLED n still play games wich look dull
P.S.
LCD density is Default 240
hey ,i think even i flashed that firmware a while ago....it is packed with a low resolution, it actually looks great on home-screen but some apps don't really look good with that resolution. so either opt for another rom or if you love the simplicity of yhat rom then try some lcd resolution changer available in the Google play.