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Will there be an Android ROM for the X1 before long?

Hi folks,
I know this question has been asked before, and the topic discussed, by I couldn't find any current threads/posts about it. My question is: now that Android on the X1 is fairly stable, will there soon be an Android ROM that replaces WinMo altogether?
I would very much enjoy that, and I think other people would as well. There are Android ROMs for a few WinMo devices, so it can be done, although I'm not familiar with the specifics myself.
A big thanks to everybody involved in developing Android for the X1. The only reason I'm keeping my copy is to one day use it as an extra Android device
Cheers

android on Х1 is fun, no more ... I do not think that you need a full ROM, enough Haret

All Android builds released by now use the HaRET launcher and are getting more stable, faster and better looking. There are some devs working on NAND flashing to completely replace WM. This can be done with TinBoot and magldr (not released yet). Just wait for the devs, they are working on it.

I think I'mma keep my x1 for 2 more years if I can have a niceworking android ROM on it! I'm going to learn how to help for it when I have time because I love it, plus I think i'll start to cook a WM rom because I want a simple and fast one =)

+1
i'm waiting for a real android rom for my X1.
i'm feedup with Winmo

i do not think you could enjoy android from nand.... ok, its running, but not stable! there is much work to do! but there are not much devs working on x1 right now. now 2 years left since the X1 was released. the devs have a working set of files to run android, but without the option to reset/change to a new version the releases are not stable now.
you have to wait... dont know if this would ever happen....

Not anytime soon. Or maybe even never.
There are Android ROMs for a few WinMo devices, so it can be done
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Can you be more specific? I can't find device that have public release with NAND Android.
EDIT: Ah i see, Tinboot can boot from NAND on TyTN II. But as i see, these builds are far from perfect. Even WiFi won't work there.
As for X1, AFAIK there were some attempts, but even screen was not working there.

matejdro said:
Can you be more specific? I can't find device that have public release with NAND Android.
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I was thinking of the HTC Vogue specifically. Check out this Wired article:
DIYers Hack Windows Mobile Phones to Run Android

DillonDarko said:
All Android builds released by now use the HaRET launcher and are getting more stable, faster and better looking. There are some devs working on NAND flashing to completely replace WM. This can be done with TinBoot and magldr (not released yet). Just wait for the devs, they are working on it.
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Sounds great, hope you're right I don't care if Android doesn't run flawlessly and if things are missing. I'm never going to use my X1 as a WinMo device again anyway, I just want to run Android on it - even if it works so-so.

Does anyone know about the progress of an Android ROM for the X1? Are the wonderful devs still working on it..?
Cheers

we making nand boot rom
its rom without wm and autoboot android from sd

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That's great news, thanks for replying!

this is also the only reason i still come to x1 forum a lot.
but i doubt it will ever happen
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booting Android
Hi all,
maybe is this nog usefull or not the right place, but if you want to boot android on your X1, you can make a shortcut in the windows startup folder to haret.exe
when you start your X1, Android will start immediately. maybe this is helpfull for someone who doens't now before.
grtz.
(sry for my english)

Judging by the very few developers for X1 left, I don't think that is going to happen.

Thanks for the tip, polcomp
I do believe that there will be an Android ROM, actually. It seems like they're still making a lot of progress.

Android 2.3 on Topaz... Possible or not? YES, CONFIRMED!

Hey guys, you already knew that Gingerbread announced officially yesterday. So what do you think about booting this yummy gingerbread on our hTC Touch Diamond2? Is it even possible?! (before saying that it's bootable or not!)
If it is, when our beloved devs will get started to build us some systems and kernels?
It's really more worthy than Froyo. Much faster and more reliable...

Black.Heart said:
Hey guys, you already knew that Gingerbread announced officially yesterday. So what do you think about booting this yummy gingerbread on our hTC Touch Diamond2? Is it even possible?! (before saying that it's bootable or not!)
If it is, when our beloved devs will get started to build us some systems and kernels?
It's really more worthy than Froyo. Much faster and more reliable...
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I think it possible, but only with upgraded kernels.

We just have to wait and see.

Porting gingerbread will be possible as soon as google posts the 2.3 source code up.

ReWind402 said:
Porting gingerbread will be possible as soon as google posts the 2.3 source code up.
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I got the first answer, but what do you think about it's stability? More than current Froyo builds? Or less?! And what do you guess about linux drivers? Could they work properly? (The most important one is 3D driver and after that, camera)

Black.Heart said:
I got the first answer, but what do you think about it's stability? More than current Froyo builds? Or less?! And what do you guess about linux drivers? Could they work properly? (The most important one is 3D driver and after that, camera)
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Well, the OS stability depends on the drivers if they are written properly there will be no problems ( like on our pcs, if drivers are not written properly the pc will crash often ). I think they can work properly

ReWind402 said:
Well, the OS stability depends on the drivers if they are written properly there will be no problems ( like on our pcs, if drivers are not written properly the pc will crash often ). I think they can work properly
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Yes... But I don't understand... Topaz Android Port project started since last year and it started with Shadowline. And HD2 Porting started about 4-5 months ago. But HD2 has now a fully functional android and we are facing basic issues!! (still!)
Why HD2 got developed this fast and we are developing slow?

Black.Heart said:
Yes... But I don't understand... Topaz Android Port project started since last year and it started with Shadowline. And HD2 Porting started about 4-5 months ago. But HD2 has now a fully functional android and we are facing basic issues!! (still!)
Why HD2 got developed this fast and we are developing slow?
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Because the HD2 has a bigger following and the drivers were easier to develop.

Black.Heart said:
Yes... But I don't understand... Topaz Android Port project started since last year and it started with Shadowline. And HD2 Porting started about 4-5 months ago. But HD2 has now a fully functional android and we are facing basic issues!! (still!)
Why HD2 got developed this fast and we are developing slow?
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HD2 has a much bigger community + many more developers then us and the 2nd thing is that XDAndroid is developing/porting Android to several devices not only one ( like topaz, blackstone, raphael, rhodium, ... ).

Topaz Android ROM
When the Android porting-project will be a compleated, - all of the RHODIUM's phones will be a very old and non perspective stuff's!
HTC have a special softvare and drivers source codes to make an device! XDA developers not have it! Without 1 million dollars - Topaz Android (pay to developers) not have a chance! ))
Magdac, - wher a you!?

I tried gingerbread 2 days ago. Neopeek build.

Gingerbread Confirmed
Yes, I confirm too... I installed Neopeek build on my Topaz... And my experience:
Well, it's a LOT, I mean it!, A LOT faster than any builds before. But...
It needs a lot of developments and tunings.
What works and what works not:
WiFi=Yes
Sound=Yes
GSM=Yes / CDMA=?
Data=Yes
PPTP VPN=NO!
G-Sensor=No
3D=Not completely... No Textures on NeoCore (But scores 22.1 fps without any gralloc drivers) but Angry Birds runs faster and without problem.
Boot=Faster than FroYo.
Camera=As expected, No!
Bluetooth=No, makes your device reboot.
Power=Not bad, but you'll see battery leaks.
Well, it's really worth to try and don't forget... It's just an Alpha build... JUST ALPHA and it can beat FroYo in this very version! But, we need to wait and see what developers will bring for us... I'm impatiently waiting for 3D and Camera... These two are the most important ones IMAO.
Dear ReWind402 and other devs, Speed up the XDAndroid please! We want NAND flash!!!

When I got my Diamond 2, I practically instantly regret I hadn't wait for the first Android release. A few days ago I bought an Android phone for my day to day usage. Since I just couldn't stand windows anymore!
I'm trying to sell my Diamond 2, but until then, I just can't wait also for the next XDAndroid!
And I'm starting to get dizzy with all Android releases from Google folks!
Feels like we're always waiting on the next big thing and that will never get the full experience!
Anyway... I would rather have full/near to full android on D2 than the sort of crappy and cheaper LG I bought
But... I just had to do it! Man! I do HATE windows mobile!

Where we can download it?

go to....
google "neopeek oops we did it again gingerbread" and boom your there

Black.Heart said:
Yes, I confirm too... I installed Neopeek build on my Topaz... And my experience:
Well, it's a LOT, I mean it!, A LOT faster than any builds before. But...
It needs a lot of developments and tunings.
What works and what works not:
WiFi=Yes
Sound=Yes
GSM=Yes / CDMA=?
Data=Yes
PPTP VPN=NO!
G-Sensor=No
3D=Not completely... No Textures on NeoCore (But scores 22.1 fps without any gralloc drivers) but Angry Birds runs faster and without problem.
Boot=Faster than FroYo.
Camera=As expected, No!
Bluetooth=No, makes your device reboot.
Power=Not bad, but you'll see battery leaks.
Well, it's really worth to try and don't forget... It's just an Alpha build... JUST ALPHA and it can beat FroYo in this very version! But, we need to wait and see what developers will bring for us... I'm impatiently waiting for 3D and Camera... These two are the most important ones IMAO.
Dear ReWind402 and other devs, Speed up the XDAndroid please! We want NAND flash!!!
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Hi,can you send me your kernel
I use modules-2.6.27.46-01245-gd9d77f2.tar.gz and zImage-2.6.27.46-01245-gd9d77f2,but i have problem with gallery
10x

what is the most stable rom?

Hi everyone,
Since last october, i have flashed numerous roms, too many to list, actually, flashed a least 20 different roms. Although, many have been impressive on looks and gizmos, none have been 100% reliable.
The most common and annoying problems recently have been losing calls due to the wonk issue, ...and yes, i do have the most recent dewonk app installedand running.
On CM6, that was not a problem, but battery life was discusting.
Another issue that i have never been able to correct, is the touchscreen problems, no rom has ever been reliable regarding that issue.
Is it that my phone is deffective ?
So the top 3 things i am looking for is
No wonkiness
no touch screen issues
and good battery life
So, if any of you guys out there know of a rom/kernell/radio combination that can offer that, i would praise you like android gods!!!
Thanks in advance for your replies..... i'm just sick of going around every week for a new miracle solution......

you might wanna try SuperAOSP from [email protected]
i've been on it since 2 months ago and i'm a happy user indeed

Sorry to burst your bubble, but roms are never "stable" per say. There are always bugs and risk factors.
Plus, this is the wrong thread to be asking the question too I believe...
But to answer the question,
I'm a CM person.

Hell if you find such rom let us know!!
N1

Yes. The touchscreen on the nexus one is defective. Google it. It cannot distinguish which x or y coordinates belong to each finger and it cannot distinguish touch points near each other.
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Try the CM7 nightly BUILD #39 from imfloflo and flash wildmonks latest kernel.
The kernel is newer and contains newer drivers. The #39 is the real final version of CM7
i think it cannot be more stable

This is most certainly not development. Thread moved to Q&A, where it belongs.

Cm7 nightly 41 with intersectraven's latest is pretty darn stable
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Is it me or is it slowing down

I haven't seen much on roms lately. All the one's out here aren't stable either. We only have a couple fully working roms and none of them are being update. If I get a new phone any suggestions on what it should be to take advantage of the most fully functional roms?
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I found Liberty ROM to be quite stable, and while I don't want to jinx it, I've been running Maverick 4.0 for a day or so and it seems great!
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked, it will open up more kernel dev options (for the genius' out there!) which could open up more/better ROM possibilities for us (fingers crossed).
I don't think I'll be upgrading to another phone until a new physical keyboard model comes out. And hopefully it's quad-core with at least a gig of RAM. (512mb on my XT860 has been killing me) ;D

Unfortunately I dont think the kernel will ever be unlocked on our phones... that's Motorola for you.
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But now it's Google...we may get lucky
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Ever since they switched to the nightlies and stopped posting new beta's on here It slowed down, IMO.
I'm happy with Mavrom 4.0 I guess, but would've loved to see hashcode etc. focussing on getting video on ICS, rather than adding features etc. Other ROM makers could've tried that. Who cares about advanced settings when you can't even record a video?

Google is going to probably sell Motorola hardware section to Huawei and keep the core just as legal requirements. Also, they said they are not going to interfere with Motorola decisions on their products. Google only bought Motorola for their parents, nothing more, nothing less.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app

Exactly ... but I don't want this to be a Motorola bash... even tho its easy to do... lol... so for now I would like to see a list of roms that are fully functional. I'm on liberty and I keep going back to that just because everything works... what other roms are in this category. And I agree that a extra features aren't important till a fully or close to fully completely working roms is in place. What's the point of all the bells and whistles if you can't even use the basic functions of a phone.. don't get me wrong now. I love trying new roms but it becomes a downer when you get one that has cool extras but you end up going back to a working rom for taking video or watching Netflix .... even if your on safestrap to go back to that functional rom. And the other question is if I change phones what would be a good phone to go to just for rom purposes ...
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The problem iswith the hardware codes and drivers. Every phone probably has this problem with ics. They add more features cause this is almost impossible. The attic has a really good developer support. I would definitely go back yo it if I could but I had nothing but problems with mine. Anyone know how to make a rom? I wanna get into it.
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Atrixn00b said:
The attic has a really good developer support.
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I assume you mean Atrix instead of attic?

The real issue to all of the problems is the bootloader. When you can customize the kernel to fit your rom you pretty much take care of any problems. Not to say there aren't roms with custom kernels that don't have issues .... there are but thats due to other things. Programming or incompatibly issues. All of our roms are franken roms held together by bungee cords and duct tape. The devs do a great job with what they have at hand so when time comes for them to build a rom on a phone with a unlocked bootloader, I don't blame them.. much more freedom and the ability to create awesome roms the way they want. All the stable roms we have are just built around the original with some cleaning up and a splash of color... I wonder what it feels like to know when you pick a rom no matter what it is and you know its going to work and the only reason you don't stick with it is because you don't like the way it looks or it doesn't have a extra you want... how sweet.
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Yeah... it was good when i had my Desire Z. All kinds of roms for that thing!
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Weaker support from DEVS for optimus 2X ?

ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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You can blame the no audio bug for that. It's so random and at the same time crippling that no further development can begin until it's taken care of.

New and better phones probably, and with the persistent call bug getting the way i wouldnt blame them.

xalix said:
ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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I wouldn't call support weak... yes it has diminished since last year but that's true of many handsets - some devs sell or give away their old ones and move on to brand spanking new models (especially at the end of a contract). Plus, LG's reputation is making things worse.
Ricardo Cerqueira is still hard at work on the official CM10, and we have lots of people making modified versions of stock ICS or even CM10 derivations. Just not as many as during the CM7 days, but again, that should not be a surprise for any phone.

neovdr said:
You can blame the no audio bug for that. It's so random and at the same time crippling that no further development can begin until it's taken care of.
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That is only part of the problem, and not the biggest part, IMO... See, the stock ICS doesn't seem to have this bug, plain and simple. At least, I have yet to see a single report of it on a clean stock V30A. However, all custom ICS/JB ROMs that currently exist use either non-original bootloader, or the old GB partition layout, or both (you can also add a custom recovery to this equation). If someone would create a custom ICS ROM based on the new partition layout AND the new original bootloader, I am pretty certain it would be free of this particular bug. The problem is that the new bootloader is locked. Can someone crack it to unlock? I hope so, but so far the only unlocked bootloader by wkpark actually comes from SU660... ArCee and the CM team are trying to make it all work with the old BL and partition layout, and the other devs either follow suit (take a ROM by tonyp and Harsh as an example), or trying to make something based on the new partition layout, but with an unlocked SU660 bootloader. What I am waiting for is someone capable of unlocking the new original bootloader from P990 V30A.
I am not a dev, so it's just my uneducated opinion, but the logic here is really simple: the in-call audio bug exists only when you introduce non-original components...
xalix -- as regards to a "weaker support", I am disappointed about it myself... It doesn't mean I am complaining, because I just can't expect, let alone demand something from any developer -- they will do what they can (and what they want to do), in their due time. But yes, there is not a lot of activity right now, for a number of reasons. You are not the first to bring this up, some people already commented on it. Some good developers, like Topogigi, moved on to other devices (and some are probably planning to), some just left XDA (Stefan is gone, and he was one of the most active contributors when it comes to stock-based ROMs), some don't have enough expertise in particular areas (Carburano has been making wonderful DM ROMs, but he is admitting it would take him time to get the kernel tweaking going without others' help)... All in all, it's kinda slow now, yes. Frankly, I am not the biggest fan of CM ROMs (just couldn't get myself to like CM7, even though some people swear by it, or unofficial CM9 varieties), and would much rather have a tweaked stock as opposed to a CM, no matter the version. So, I am waiting for some progress, but I am not holding my breath at this time... Good thing is that the official stock V30A is working quite well for me, so I am just using my phone without problems, all the while waiting for some nice stable ROM...

xalix said:
ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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Yes, unfortunately I agree with you.
Stephan went out of xda because his fight about commits, and then topo, who was following stephan's work, sold his o2x. Then the kernel source was released and until now not a single stock rom with custom kernel compiled with p990 sources.
It's very sad. I would love to see just some gueste_ICS, but sometimes I think that people are more interested in following the rules than making it work.
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I don't understand why but devs still love this phone. So no point saying weaker support. Its the weak support from LG. And, the bootloader can be unlocked. We just need the ramdisk source and we are good to go

I agree with you louiscypherbr
louiscypherbr said:
Yes, unfortunately I agree with you.
Stephan went out of xda because his fight about commits, and then topo, who was following stephan's work, sold his o2x. Then the kernel source was released and until now not a single stock rom with custom kernel compiled with p990 sources.
It's very sad. I would love to see just some gueste_ICS, but sometimes I think that people are more interested in following the rules than making it work.
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Since Stefan has gone i to miss Gueste_Ics im still using Stefans V28E as a daily driver, its a best rom i have seen no lgas no audio bugs, works smooth, i don't understand 1 thing as still the audio bug is there in CM10, we should give time to RC to fix the audio bug, but till then why the dev is not trying to use AOKP or building the custom modified stock rom with a custom kernel as the source are out, from past 1 year we are waiting for LG to release ICS and source now both are out but we are still waiting, don't know how much we have to wait more.
Plz God Give O2X Users More Patients Coz We Need It Desperately :angel: