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A joke of an article

I recently got a free year-long subscription of BusinessWeek and read the June 29th issue. I found this humorous, but pathetic article by a well-distinguished BusinessWeek journalist near the end of the issue:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2009/tc20090617_040512.htm
Did this guy ever laid eyes upon a Windows Mobile phone in the past 2 years? I doubt it. Every feature he mentioned is available on Windows Mobile but he dismisses it as looking "lame". It's almost like he's working for Apple the way he specifically outlines the features of the new iphone. I do see some mildly pro-mac, pro-apple articles in some publications, but this is just a joke, even for an opinion article. The least he could have done was mention the Touch Pro 2, or the new Omnia, with its large AMOLED screen and over double the resolution.
I might have the wrong reaction to this, but I think it's worth mentioning. What does the XDA community think of the article? Just another Apple fanboy, or an uninformed simpleton?

The biggest thing about the iPhone is it's interface/applications. Love it or hate it, the iPhone has a lot of great and useful applications, while Windows Mobile doesn't. Android (and WebOS soon) also have a lot of great and useful applications. Most, if not all, non HTC or Samsung or manufacturer applications look very old and perform slow. It's a sad, but true, fact.
And those who are like "why don't you just switch to the iPhone then, hater!", well, I like Windows Mobile for the customization. I like being able to change my interface every few weeks. With the upcoming HTC Hero, I might be switching to Android, though. It will be nice to have an OS that actually works right... Windows Mobile simply is slow, and it's RAM management is HELL.

derekwilkinson said:
The biggest thing about the iPhone is it's interface/applications. Love it or hate it, the iPhone has a lot of great and useful applications, while Windows Mobile doesn't. Android (and WebOS soon) also have a lot of great and useful applications. Most, if not all, non HTC or Samsung or manufacturer applications look very old and perform slow. It's a sad, but true, fact.
And those who are like "why don't you just switch to the iPhone then, hater!", well, I like Windows Mobile for the customization. I like being able to change my interface every few weeks. With the upcoming HTC Hero, I might be switching to Android, though. It will be nice to have an OS that actually works right... Windows Mobile simply is slow, and it's RAM management is HELL.
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All of that about the iphone is true, but not at all my point I was trying to make. The article mentioned features that were all available on Windows Mobile. It would have been OK with me if he said what you said, and that the interface, and certain applications (such as the large amount of simple, graphics-intensive games) are an advantage for the iphone. But he simply outlined features that an Apple spokesman would say at a newsconference promoting their product.
Also, I don't know what phone you are using, but my Fuze, which uses WM isn't slow at all in every basic use! The only thing I found slow was older applications that were made for xscale devices. Other than that I've ran over 9 applications at once, even music and youtube at once.

this article seems to be more biased than anything else. To me it simply sounds like another consumer who is very infatuated with the new phone. As the OP has said, nearly everything they offered was pretty much catching up to the other OS' and they did not "optimize" it as people claim it to be.
the thing that really caught my eye with the new iphone OS3 is the ability to edit on the fly, but then again, it is simply a cute toy for amateurs to post a huge range of amatuer videos to completely idiotic simpleminded videos of someone doing something stupid.
by the end of the article, it felt like a sales pitch.

[Q] Would you still buy an Android phone?

Because I am quite disappointed with Samsung Galaxy S, I will sell it and buy another phone soon.
I am very fond of HTC Desire HD but is it worth to buy another Android phone or is better to give a try to iOS, Symbian ^3 or maybe Windows Mobile 7.
What are your suggestions?

From personal experience, I doubt the iOS beats android in any way. Symbian is too simple and plain for my taste. However, I don't know much about the latest symbian, but the N8 works on a much slower CPU than the SGS. As for windows mobile 7, since it's new, it might be worth a try but we can never really know till reviews start flooding the net... Personally, I think you're being a bit hasty with throwing away the SGS. With froyo just around the corner, it would really improve the phone overall, and would certainly be comparable with the Desire HD. After having done my own research, I concluded and opted for an android phone by choice, for IMHO it IS currently the best upcoming mobile phone OS. Ultimately, you just have to be patient with new technology, so irrespective of the OS or the manufacturer, there's really no point rushing. You will NEVER find 'The Perfect Phone'.... Just my two cents.

Hold out for Meego if Symbian ends up on top of your list, but that'll be 2011. If you want something with everything laid out for you and a good app store, iOS is a fine option, but it definitely depends on what your problem is with SGS and how much of that is Android/Samsung based. iOS has high satisfaction rates, but most people who get in there have stuck along, knew what they were getting into or don't know any better. Android, some people who aren't technical enough or like tinkering and having options just bought in because it's popular and they hear enough about it, but they didn't know what they were getting into. Still, as far as I know, Android has the second highest customer satisfaction, so if you need a decision for the here and now, go with Android or iOS. If you can wait until WP7, read up after the devices launch, it's not ready to compete with all things either platform can offer, but it does have long-term potential, particularly with gaming/MS integrations, but thus far from what I know I wouldn't buy it in the first 12 months of it's launch even if they start with the best hardware.

My advice is wait until Froyo.. The reason why you are disappointed is probably because it feels sometimes like Samsung aren't doing anything. This is because there aren't many leaks.
You may also be disappointed because many people here at XDA are jumping to incredibly uninformed conclusions. We have morons running around saying that Samsung will never release updates, people saying the lag can't be fixed in RFS (whilst Samsung might not have integrated a few performance patches) and newbies saying "the GPS problem is hardware" without ANY proof whatsobloodyever.
Also, whilst those who defend this phone regularly get called fanboy's, there are certainly a lot of HTC fanboys here too (which seems to be finally getting revealed now that many ex-HTC users are calling some of their ex-products worse).
Froyo might be a completely different ballgame (I wouldn't underestimate Samsung). But either way, a lot of people coming from other platforms are saying their SGS is better than their other phones anyway.
I wouldn't touch WM7 because:
1) Windows Mobile seems to be a dying platform. Unfortunately, Microsoft took too long to release it.
2) So this means they wont get many developers and users on-board.
3) Windows Mobile is closed source, and development isn't easy (You probably require Windows).
Why I wouldn't touch the iPhone:
1) For starters, Steve Jobs stood on stage and lied about the antenna. Rather than fix the problem, he called other mobiles rubbish (despite their antenna problems often being VERY difficult to replicate in real life). I have very little respect for that.
2) Development is difficult, you really need OSX. The OS is closed source too.
3) Many users NEED to jailbreak, because of restrictions in the store.
4) Apple products often have weird design issues, which people seem to ignore, but which exists.
5) Huge app store
6) iTunes.. Enough said..
Symbian
1) Symbian is open source, which is great...
2) But these days, only Nokia sells them. Symbian's marketshare will likely only decrease.
WebOS/Palm
1) Forget about WebOS. In most countries you can't find ANY webOS phones, so audience is VERY limited
Meego/Maemo
1) The Nokia N900 is the only phone that uses it.
2) But it probably runs faster than Android because it's compiled code.
3) But limited exposure. I'd consider it, if the hardware wasn't so sucky...
Android.
1) Apps might run slower, because it's bytecode
2) But, HUGE range of mobiles
3) Huge range of apps (Not as much as iPhone though)
4) Open source OS.
5) Evolving quickly, reliable vendor (Google know what they are doing)
6) The SGS seems to be the only laggy Android phone out there (probably due to a few bugs that need fixing in RFS, which might already be fixed in head/trunk).
I'd say hold off until Froyo. I have the feeling Samsung will surprise us. Remember, the leaks only show SOME integrated code, and even JPK could have been missing a whole lot of patches. A lot of claims made by users isn't true either.
The reason why some things haven't been fixed yet may also be because they are integrating the fixes directly into Froyo.
There is a VERY good reason why Android is quickly growing though. In fact, I'd be surprised if Android isn't #1 by next year. But I'd honestly have no problems buying another Android handset

Nokia to beat Android?

Here's the article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-our-first-priority-is-beating-android/
My first thoughts were....hahahaha! In their dreams.
Open source can't be beat, simple as that. But Google do need to come up with a better strategy for implementing their OS on the devices otherwise fragmentation will drive potential customers away.
In my view WP7 is a step backwards, the UI is horrible with home being filed with tons of tiles that you have to scroll through, no real multitasking, locked down like iOS etc, and now Nokia thinks that this move will beat Android. Are they that arrogant?
I did a speed test comparison between DHD and HD7 and WP7 got its ass smacked, it loaded apps/games much slower.
They should of made a better version of N900, that was not a bad phone but could of been a monster.
Your thoughts?

The day that Nokia has dominance over Android, I will get an iphone. I currently own the 1 and only Evo 4g, rooted, stock. (wireless tether of course).

yeah i think nokia is making a bad move

lol good old nokia trying to make a comeback...

I honestly don't know who even carries Nokia phones anymore They once made really nice phones. Windows mobile or phone 7 or what ever they are calling it this year is in the same boat imo. I carried wm since the HTC 8125. And year after year I pationatly waited for ms to get it right, and they never did. It did get better in terms of reliability but I still had to reset my tilt 2 a few times a week.
I think the team up could be good for them but I could care less.
To me, It's like 2 old men in your neighborhood teaming up and thinking they are gonna take back that snow shoveling biz that they had when they were kids all the while everyone already has the youngsters down the street with their self propelled snow blowers that knock out the jobs in no time.
They pissed off most of us loyal wm folks along time ago and you know how that saying about screw me once, screw me twice goes....not gonna happen to me.
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Hmmnn, noki is not going anywhere except in your dreams

Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.

I like Nokias phones. My brother has the n8 and the camera is amazing! hopefully this works out and I'll get a nokia with a xenon flash

z33dev33l said:
Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.
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There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.

Nokia wont ever beat android
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Why not??? Nokia will beat Android... Didnt u read the article?

ErOR22 said:
There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.
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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.

I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.

GnatGoSplat said:
I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.
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Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?

Well, we all know what Vic Gundotra thinks about this...

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Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?
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No, my whole argument is based on WP7 being a sales FAIL. The comparison to WM is only a point of reference, because it's generally well accepted that except for a few fanboys, nobody likes WM.
No, their choices were to use Android, a product that people actually WANT, vs WP7, a product that nobody wants. It doesn't matter how awesome or innovative you may think WP7 is, if nobody wants it, nobody's going to buy it. So if Nokia wants to make money, and unless I'm mistaken, but all companies exist to do one thing and that is make money, they should choose the platform that makes money rather than one nobody wants.
You're saying iOS has an ugly UI? Compared to WP7? Seriously? For most people I know (and according to sales figures, most people worldwide), the UI is what turned them off to WP7 and drove them to Android or iOS.

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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.
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lol wut?
This is basic functionality I use most days. Even if I used it monthly the whole point is that when I need it it's there, thats the power of android. You don't need all the features every day, but when you do need it its all there ready.

I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.

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I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.
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Not true. The only fanboys I know are on this site. I've recently talked to many smartphone n00bs who are getting a smartphone for the first time. Just from playing with the phone in the showroom, they narrow it down to Android or iPhone. WP7 is never even considered. Some people will switch from Android to iPhone and vice versa. People on this forum excluded, I don't know anyone who has even considered going from iPhone to WP7 or Android to WP7. Even my wife, who isn't even remotely a fanboy, has no interest in WP7 simply because she doesn't like how, "it looks so plain and boring". Maybe people would love WP7 if they actually used it for awhile, but Microsoft can't even get them through the door, much less reel them in.

Wp7 needs a mascot like a bald guy in a turtleneck or a little green robot. Then it would be srsbiz.

(off-topic) do you still like the android platform?

Do you still like the android platform?
or will be you next phone windows phone 8 os or iphone (ios)?

Never
I will never stop loving android and hate apple fanboys.

i have tried both windows phone 7 and ios, and they are very unique and interesting to use. But after a while u will start to get bored using the same old platform and i think android is the same. I heard Mozilla has released a "firefox os" and written based on HTML5 or so. Looking forward to it ^^

I also like and will still like Android.
Windows and iOS are so "closed" and so "B* I'M FABULOUS!" ... where changing wallpaper is max of your coustomization possibilities

yomek88 said:
I also like and will still like Android.
Windows and iOS are so "closed" and so "B* I'M FABULOUS!" ... where changing wallpaper is max of your coustomization possibilities
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Agreed.
I've been using a lumia 800 for a couple of days and frankly i think i could get enogh of it soon
Also forming part of a community of people wanting to develop tweak and wanting more from your phone means something, at least to me, i recently realized that i like all the rooting, trying new roms, tweaks, scripts, customization and contributing to this community, i don't see the other 2 platforms giving me the same

RomWiz said:
Never
I will never stop loving android and hate apple fanboys.
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loving a platform and hating the fanboys are two entirely different things. lol.
i too hate the "iFans", but the OS's fluidity is just amazing "NOW" (after flash is not going to be supported on droids too. a sad case because still now 70% of all websites use flash and not HTML5 ). there are a few common games for both the platforms. try and play both simultaneously. the iOS handles them reallllllyyy wellllll.
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Agreed.
I've been using a lumia 800 for a couple of days and frankly i think i could get enogh of it soon
Also forming part of a community of people wanting to develop tweak and wanting more from your phone means something, at least to me, i recently realized that i like all the rooting, trying new roms, tweaks, scripts, customization and contributing to this community, i don't see the other 2 platforms giving me the same
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now, i hafta differ. android is great. i bought back my OB from my frnd whom i had sold it off, because i just LOVE android customizablility. BUT, i also have bought a lumia 710 (it's 90% lumia 800, save for the camera, extra storage and the screen tech) and gotta say i kind of like it better than the android platform.
WP7 has a few nice things up it's sleeve. first and best is battery life. lumia 710 is having a 1300 MAh battery, yet gives me about 2 days with 2g always on (that means syncing SNS and live tiles all the time), about 4/5hours of music, few snaps, etc. also, the level of SNS integration is just mindblowing. maybe there are less apss and games, but i actually don't play much. line birds, line runner as games and the super awesome "photosynth" app, a toggle app, a live card and a doc scanner. dats all. nokia also has given 2 nice apps as "camera extras" and "creative studio". all to say, am really really REALLY satisfies with the WP7.5 (and with 7.8 the homescreen is gonna be much better )
am using it for less than a week and already by OB has turned into my 2nd phone.
and mind you, there ARE a couple o' ROMs for the lumias at xda.

i've tried my friends' iphones and windows mobiles for about a week each
the iphones are damn smooth(sometimes they have slight lags)
windows mobile am fed up then when i see, those platforms aren't for me
they are too monotone to me
i love my android and am now using it as it was created for(games, emails, youtube, homework, camera, facebook, skype)
when i feel like buying another phone, i think about mine and say to myself...will i really use those features?
then i look at mine and remember the day i bought it and its wonderful features
no, i'll stay android if ios7 is still like this

I like Android very much!!! Very customizable, and it's getting better and better
Time for Android
Pros:
Very customizable
Updated quite often
Has a lot of features
Custom roms, themes, etc
Flash support! Though Flash for mobile will be soon discontinued by Adobe :/
Android exists among all types of phones; low,mid and high-range phones, therefore it is very flexible in terms of budget/choice of the customers.
And so on
Now, the Cons:
Not well fragmented; lag exists & it has quite a lot of problems compared to other OSes
Does not support many games, compared to iOS
Laggy browsing experience with ANY browsers.
The OS sometimes require powerful phones to run smoothly, thus making more expensive phones better, and cheap phones worse.
Your android powered phone can be easily bricked and has more software issues than other OSes; this is because building Android for 1000s of phones is really not easy, while iOS and WP7 are supported by very few devices, making the development of the OS very easy and better.
And MANY more
Now turn to iOS
Pros:
Very well fragmented; a 600Mhz device can run very smoothly.
Has very low software issue.
HTML5 support, super smooth browsing experience ahead!
Very hard to brick an iPod/iPhone lol
Games, games, GAMES!
Has featured apps which are quite useful (Siri, iMessage, etc)
iOS have a more professional look than Android, but less than WP7.
Super easy to use! Even my 3 year old niece can use it.
Has free cloud storage by default
And many more...
iOS is not without cons:
Can be extremely boring for some people.
no customization, unless you jailbreak, which still allows you less customization than Android.
Supported only by iPod/iPhone, restricting consumer choices/
Software updates makes older devices obsolete and outdated, forcing customers to buy new iPod/iPhones.
Apple = purely marketing... People buy iPhones blindly XD
No bluetooth file transfer to other devices!!
And so on...
I didn't not really used a WP7 powered phone, but from what I see, it is a very good and fluid OS!
Pros:
So much simplicity, so fluid, so COOOL!
Damn it runs at 60fps like all the freaking time! Practically no lags. - Extremely well fragmented.
Perfect to impress others lol, the OS is very well presented and looks like a premium OS.
More customization than Apple's iOS
HTML5 support, super smooth browsing experience ahead!
Xbox User can use Xbox Live on their WP7 Phone!
Has free cloud storage by default
Easy to use.
WP7 phones gets major software updates.
Now the Cons (there may be more):
No bluetooth file transfer! Just like iOS
Not as customizable as Android.
For some, the UI can be very boring.
And some more...
If I had to decide which is the best Operating System for phones, it would have been extremely hard!!
To simplify the decision I would divide it into categories:
In terms of Choice, Functionality and Customization; ANDROID
In terms of Apps, Stability and Ease; iOS
In terms of Fluidity, Professionalism and Ease; Windows Phone 7
I am not surprised to be using a WP7 phone in the future as I like the UI so much.

I think im going to use wp 8 if it come our or wp 9

for the future, it's unpredictable all os are good
ios and wp are said to be fluid and here comes jelly bean
its to your taste
i myself dont know what i'll really buy next time
but i prefer ios or android

theaks30 said:
for the future, it's unpredictable all os are good
ios and wp are said to be fluid and here comes jelly bean
its to your taste
i myself dont know what i'll really buy next time
but i prefer ios or android
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Idont like that some android device dont get update but the can handel it google need to say something about it because a iphone with lower specs than a iphone 4s is slower or the same speed
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Android vs IOS my thoughts.

Hi all, new to the forum so thought I'd do this as my first post,
I have had android since it came out in 2008 on the G1 phone, having it for so long I fancied a change so traded my s6 edge plus for an iPhone 6s.
I had the iPhone for 2 weeks but really didn't get on with it, I'm not saying it's a bad phone but coming from an OS which is hugely customisable /tweekable I couldn't deal with the lack of deep editing and customisation so here are my pros and cons:
Ios:
Pros:
Really easy to use, a child could competently use one in a matter of hours,
Worked really well with my macbook air
Looks lovely.
No worries about malware or crap ad pushing apps.
Apple pay was brilliant
3d touch was great.
Updates are immediate after release and consistent.
Huge array of quality 3rd party accessories
Cons
Battery life was shocking,
Screen resolution is very dated and looks nowhere near as good as my androids
Camera was not as good and the macro was terrible
It felt like I didn't own the phone but was leasing it from Apple.
No customisation, the menus etc look so dated
No resizable keyboard,
Live wallpapers are extremely limited and didn't work well
No widgets
No sd card
Couldn't use it as a mass storage device.
ITunes has to be used for everything, and that's a bag of poop,
Replying and starting threads on the fretboard is a pain in the arse, they keyboard was constantly in the way of what I was typing.
The biggest thing for me was the fact you couldn't get into the system files,
I had the 16 version and had 1.2gbs worth of apps but 5gb of documents and data after 3 days if use! After a lot of research it's a known big issue they have not addressed And you can't do anything about it at all so half my storage was taken up by rubbish.
Android:
Pros:
Total freedom to customise everything,
Themes
Better camera
Better screen
Apps are cheaper or free
Much better battery life (from the phones I have had)
Cheaper
Integration with cloud and Google is phenomenal,
Can be used as mass storage and any file type can be played
Cheaper to insure
More storage space, and you can get rid of stuff you dont need.
The list goes on...
Cons:
Anyone can make an app so there is a load of crap, you have to do your homework on the apps available
Potential for malware (but this is nowhere as much of an issue as apple and the media make out, as long as you dont sideload apps.
Updates reliant on oem and carrier.
So after two weeks I sold the iPhone and got a HTC 10 which for me is better in literally every way.
I found on the iPhone I was using all of Google services and none of apples (drive, chrome Gmail etc)
Sifr is also nowhere near as good as Google now, and felt extremely limited compared.
I can totally see why people would stick with an iPhone as it does just work and works well but for me it's far to limited and had to find too many work arounds to get it to do what I want,
On the other hand my macbook air is the greatest laptop I have ever used and I would never buy anything else in the future.
So this is def not an apple bashing thread these are purely my direct experiences and fancied writing them down

In my opinion, both these platforms are slick, stable and secure, with thousands of apps available. Android is undoubtedly more customisable; iOS, you might argue, is a little more polished (especially on tablets). Visually they're quite distinctive too, taking different design approaches.

I prefer Android, and I think I always will prefer Android. I always was a Google & Android fanboy, and the fact that I mostly use only Google service, proves I couldn't be an iPhone user. Also, iOS is not open-source, which blocks customization and more. Plus, I don't like Siri

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I prefer Android, and I think I always will prefer Android. I always was a Google & Android fanboy, and the fact that I mostly use only Google service, proves I couldn't be an iPhone user. Also, iOS is not open-source, which blocks customization and more. Plus, I don't like Siri
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To be honest that was the turning point for me, I did use any of apples apps all Google, they're leagues ahead, def proud to be a Google fanboy

I find iPhones to be slow, unstable, unreliable, unpolished, counter-intuitive and extremely limited. They have mediocre cameras, mediocre screens, crappy battery life, and NO MICROSD SLOT. Also, iOS is very difficult to use and SIRI SUCKS. I don't want all these problems in a >$750 device that can only run one operating system.

Google Voice may finally be available for the iPhone, but the experience will never be the same as it is on Android. Other iPhone apps always direct you to the default dialer and visual voicemail apps, so even if you want to use Google Voice full time, you have to manually navigate it to yourself. On Android, apps like Google Voice integrate directly with the operating system—if you want to make calls with Google Voice, every call you make from the phone's dialer goes through Google Voice. When you click on a phone number in your browser or in Google Maps, it goes through Google Voice instead of sending you to the wrong dialer. True app integration like this makes using custom phone, SMS, voicemail, and even browser apps absolutely seamless on Android, which is something you won't find on the more locked-down iPhone platform.

I should add that to my rant. I appreciate some of what Apple has done (most of it happened before I was born), but locking down everything is not one of them. Apple would've gone broke if it wasn't for their iPod. Part of the reason: Locking their stuff like that and being proprietary. Also, Apple products are not compatible with my real-world personality. I like freedom and to have control over what I own, and Apple products look, feel, and function like someone else's device. I want my stuff to look, feel, and function like my stuff. So I guess I am an Apple hater, but I won't yet call myself an Android fanboy. And, no, I am not the one person in the world with a Windows phone. I hate Windows for different reasons. So I guess I can only enjoy using a Linux-based OS on desktop and laptop computers. And OSes like Android and Sailfish on mobile.
In case you want a summary of what I said, you can call me an Apple and/or MS hater, or a Linux lover, I don't care. But don't call me an Android fanboy. I like Android, but I am willing to try other OSes if they fit my personality of freedom, customization, simplicity, transparency, and reliability.

of course android=open source!!!

andriod are more customable and modable

At that moment using both iOS and Android. The only thing i really hate about android is that after some time device starting to perform really poor lagging freezing and so on and you cannot fix it by doing hard reset wiping all your data, it helps a little but its barely helps. So i cannot recommend to buy for inexperienced users android devices for a long term use. Long story short, i bought nexus 7 tablet when it was just released, it was super fast and smooth. Didn't install any os updates on it and after 1 year i couldn't enjoy it anymore, constantly lagging. Never experienced the same with iOS, always smooth, but yeah it has lots of limitations.

Nexus devices are meant to be tinkered with so they will slow down unless you mess with them. My cheap tablet had no noticeable slowdown in 4 years. iOS doesn't slow down because it is already slow.

Daniel Marchena recently wrote an article for XDA that relates to this topic and I think he made some good points on Android vs IOS. What it comes down to for me though is the fun of hacking the device. I personally had a lot of fun jailbreaking the iPhone, and iMessage is some of the coolest stuff ever. Although after switching to Android I don't think I'm ever going to go back. It's nicer being encouraged to play with Android then playing cat and mouse with Apple.

both are very different working platform, I use to be a IOS user iPhone 2g but after iPhone 4s i made a desicion to switch to android, with android has so much possibilites, you can do more with an android then an iPhone, iPhone is pretty basic and yeah a child could use... One thing i noticed is that gaming on an Iphone is much better with good FPS.. there hardware is so much optimized with the software.. currently using S7 edge and really happy with it, except some minor issues.. Glad to have a headphone jack though