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What is your favorite part of the n1?

What do you love most about owning the nexus one?

mine is simple... aside from it doing everything my iphone did...
I love the live wallpapers, lol.
free apps without jailbreaking or rooting... and I like how from the contacts... you can email, facebook, text, call a person with a single touch.

I love the live wallpapers myself..
I must admit it does seem like an all around nice phone.. However, I still figured I'd see what people said.

I really love the general handiness of the device, its just endlessly capable:
hotspot, flash, RDC ,browser, navigation, maps, apps, media, camera, sturdiness, all the google apps, the customization...i just love the damn phone!
The only limit i can identify is my carrier TMobile (of course i love the price and cant complain because you get what you pay for and the 3g is very, very fast in my opinion), im in san antonio yet i only have 3g about 1/2 the time and data goes away totally in about 2/3 of the buildings/stores which i think is pretty unreasonable especially in a big, highly populated city.
The only thing i am disappointed with on the phone is the general touchscreen interaction; the scrolling, dragging, etc should be smoother but thats a relatively minor complaint. As great as the phone is right now i will definitely order the Nexus 2 on day one; better processor/ROM/RAM/camera/HD recording/resolution are more than just competitive as of now but by the end of the year ill probably be jealous of other Androids.
Looks like I did a really horrible job of just answering your question, sorry

the screen. perfect size, like a mini tablet in your pocket for web browsing, and the amoled colors make it pleasing to the eyes compared to lcd screens.
or build quality and materials would be second answer.

i love it for beeing completely unmodified and vanilla android after owning a crippled HTC Android phone

Because its Googles baby, N1 owners get first dibs on anything new happening in Android.

The way it sweats sexy. Its aluminum body. The usable camera. B-E-A-utiful AMOLED screen.
Only dislike is the trackball. Mine refuses to scroll left but works fine any other direction.

The build.. I had a look at a Xperia that runs Android at work from a colleague, and i was stunned how it felt so lightweight and cheap built piece of plastic.

watercool said:
i love it for beeing completely unmodified and vanilla android after owning a crippled HTC Android phone
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Gotta agree with you there. I just hope there will be more phones in the future with vanilla android. I'm just tired of the whole rooting and flashing ROMs bit after having 100+ ROMs on my last WM phone, so no I just keep my N1 stock and I like it.
With Froyo I see no reason to root anymore and that's a good thing imo.

It is a dandy phone with everything on it, sometimes i will have a problem that needs to be solved, and can be solved by using my phone.
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With Froyo I see no reason to root anymore and that's a good thing imo.
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My rom flashing has stopped since i got froyo, but i know it will start up again once cyanyogenmod 6 comes out.

AMOLED screen... I love it!

help me speed up my nexus

Hey so i had my nexus day one and it felt pretty fast but now after watching videos of the new samsung galaxy S and the new Motorola Droid X i feel like my phones just dragging itself along. mostly its on the homescreen when i swipe to go to the next page and it just doesnt feel as smooth. can you guys give me some tips to get things going a bit smoother. or is the nexus one just bound by hardware limitations. I'm on stock 2.1 unrooted AT&T nexus one. heres a video of the droid x just to put me down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixJR_QNibg

If you want a responsive launcher/homescreen, download LauncherPro Beta or ADW.Launcher from the market. Both are very snappy and offer a lot of features.

ADWLauncher

I don't know if you ready to root, if you do you can use cyanogenmod. For me it's a lot better than stock rom.

Don't use Live backgrounds!
I believe that a froyo rom with launcherpro is the speediest thing you can get.
I'm with cyanogen 5.0.8 + awdlauncher and i'm very happy with it. It's fast with benefits

most definently aint hardware. I meant what do the other phones I.E. Galaxy and droid x got in it to make it faster?
N1 is still a rocking phone and Im on froyo using Launcher Pro Beta and it flies. Definitly cany get any faster. Well it could but then Id miss infor it would go so fast. lol

nomedor said:
Don't use Live backgrounds!
I believe that a froyo rom with launcherpro is the speediest thing you can get.
I'm with cyanogen 5.0.8 + awdlauncher and i'm very happy with it. It's fast with benefits
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waiting for the official froyo for att nexus, if it doesnt come by july im gonna say F it. but youre right (( i was using awd previously, decided to try launcher pro, still sort of laggy. turned off my koi fish live wallpaper and the whole OS is fast as lightnight i miss my fish

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waiting for the official froyo for att nexus, if it doesnt come by july im gonna say F it. but youre right (( i was using awd previously, decided to try launcher pro, still sort of laggy. turned off my koi fish live wallpaper and the whole OS is fast as lightnight i miss my fish
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adw is cool. just seemed to kinda hang sometimes on the first swype from after being in a app. Just kinda takes a second then responds, then there after it responds fine. So I switched back to Launcher pro and hes got alot of options like ADW. I Personaly like Launcher Pro better.
But yea, I dont think the new phones have anything better except maybe a slightly better processor clocked at the same speed as the n1.
I see many people wanting the latest toy. I for one am done looking for a while. My n1 does everything I need it too and at a very fast speed. These phones coming out now still benchmark just around the n1.
I dont know. there all great phones coming out. But nothing to want to get rid of my n1 for. Ill wait for taxes and see whats out then..

wait for froyo, massive homescreen speed increase.

temperbad said:
most definently aint hardware. I meant what do the other phones I.E. Galaxy and droid x got in it to make it faster?
N1 is still a rocking phone and Im on froyo using Launcher Pro Beta and it flies. Definitly cany get any faster. Well it could but then Id miss infor it would go so fast. lol
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theyre saying the processor and gpu on the new samsung are really amazing image rendering is supposed to be a piece of cake for it
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/

and i'd use launcherpro

thatg said:
theyre saying the processor and gpu on the new samsung are really amazing image rendering is supposed to be a piece of cake for it
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
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sounds impressive. But read the comments. Looks like some is made up.
Im sure itll perform well and maybe slightly better. But as far as what there saying.
its not gonna be too big of a deal. But its still a impressive device and If ya want a galaxy or droid x. There sweet phones. I just still dont see anything about it wanting me to ditch my n1. I honestly think Ill have this till next year.
Not only that but tmobile is not getting any android phones soon. N1 is it for me.
Conclusion. Sweet processor, but is it really all its cut out to be? only time will tell, even if not, its still a nice phone. Super Amoled? Awesome..
THIS DUDE SOUNDS LIKE HE KNOWS WHATS UP.
The whole article is full of trash data.
The iPhone 3GS puts out 7m triangles per second per GLBenchmark (Google “GLBenchmark iPhone 3GS” and click the 3D tab), which is a PowerVR SGX 520 at 200 Mhz or 530 at 100 Mhz.
Ofc the SGX 530 puts out 14 m triangles per second (twice the performance of the 520).
The Hummingbird doesn’t have an SGX 540, as it puts out only 28m triangles per second (twice the performance of the 530), not 90.
Ugh. Now this article is all over the internets and every iPhone 3GS user is feeling smug. Like we needed more of that.

HD7 and Mytouch 4g

I have been going back and forth between the HD7 and Mytouch 4g. After using the new WP7 platform. I just find it hard to go back to Android. Android definitely has more (i.e. multitasking, flash in browser, better specs). But Android seems so chaotic now, WP7 is so easy to use. Not that Android is confusing but it is definitely not as streamlined throughout the UI like iOS or WP7. Just my opinion but I think I am finally going to stick with the HD7.

rllong1 said:
I have been going back and forth between the HD7 and Mytouch 4g. After using the new WP7 platform. I just find it hard to go back to Android. Android definitely has more (i.e. multitasking, flash in browser, better specs). But Android seems so chaotic now, WP7 is so easy to use. Not that Android is confusing but it is definitely not as streamlined throughout the UI like iOS or WP7. Just my opinion but I think I am finally going to stick with the HD7.
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I must be missing something, my wife has the mytouch4g, and I just dont see what you mean by HD7 is more streamlined in the OS?
Can you give some examples? cause when I play with my HD2 and my wifes 4G i can get to things faster then I can on my HD7

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I must be missing something, my wife has the mytouch4g, and I just dont see what you mean by HD7 is more streamlined in the OS?
Can you give some examples? cause when I play with my HD2 and my wifes 4G i can get to things faster then I can on my HD7
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All of this is totally my opinion. Other users may have different thoughts but I mean the overall feel of the os. Just from taking/reviewing pictures, to the peoples hub. It feels very simple. Not that it takes any less steps than the MT4g. But it all seems cohesive like everything is running together, like everything in the UI flows together. I just dont feel that way about Android.

I agree, most things do seem more integrated on this phone esp. coming from the hd2.

I Completely agree with you OP. And I get what you mean. Coming from a BlackBerry, WP7 definitely feels more unified. I use friends Androids (wifes best friend has a Vibrant, other friend has a Droid X, brother has a Droid) all the time and they've never impressed me. My HD7 grabs my updates on FB through browse, the app, or the People hub. If I wanna check to see recent posts I don't need to go into the app, I just open the People hub and I get a list of recent posts and notifications. Without opening an app! As far as the myTouch 4G, in planning on buying one...for my mother. So she can video chat with her friends. That's about the only good thing I see the phone doing...

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I Completely agree with you OP. And I get what you mean. Coming from a BlackBerry, WP7 definitely feels more unified. I use friends Androids (wifes best friend has a Vibrant, other friend has a Droid X, brother has a Droid) all the time and they've never impressed me. My HD7 grabs my updates on FB through browse, the app, or the People hub. If I wanna check to see recent posts I don't need to go into the app, I just open the People hub and I get a list of recent posts and notifications. Without opening an app! As far as the myTouch 4G, in planning on buying one...for my mother. So she can video chat with her friends. That's about the only good thing I see the phone doing...
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See thats the problem when ppl speak of this OS being fluid, like it all works together, which it cannot because lack of multi tasking, you instantly loose the fluid part of the OS.
But when ppl are asked what is so fluid about it, they mention FB and the updates, which in reality, I am sure there is an app out there for droid and even Iphone that allows you to do the exact same thing, that it gives up dates you click it and see all the updates.
But out side of hte FB feature, which is fine and dandy, on a technical side, code for code, ability for ability, there is zero advantage,
and I only get like this because all I read before I got the phone, was how great it is, how new it is how fantastic it is, i dont see it, only two things impress me on it, typing and the effect of the scroll, basically the touch response, which every droid ive touched lacks for now.

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See thats the problem when ppl speak of this OS being fluid, like it all works together, which it cannot because lack of multi tasking, you instantly loose the fluid part of the OS.
But when ppl are asked what is so fluid about it, they mention FB and the updates, which in reality, I am sure there is an app out there for droid and even Iphone that allows you to do the exact same thing, that it gives up dates you click it and see all the updates.
But out side of hte FB feature, which is fine and dandy, on a technical side, code for code, ability for ability, there is zero advantage,
and I only get like this because all I read before I got the phone, was how great it is, how new it is how fantastic it is, i dont see it, only two things impress me on it, typing and the effect of the scroll, basically the touch response, which every droid ive touched lacks for now.
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Again, totally my opinion but there seems to be great fluidity within everything to me. The camera, taking and reviewing pictures. The calender, switching between day, agenda view. I agree that android has more function to it. But I do not think the fluidity is there for android. Yes, facebook is one of the ways that wp7 shows its fluidity but I wouldnt say its the only way.

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Again, totally my opinion but there seems to be great fluidity within everything to me. The camera, taking and reviewing pictures. The calender, switching between day, agenda view. I agree that android has more function to it. But I do not think the fluidity is there for android. Yes, facebook is one of the ways that wp7 shows its fluidity but I wouldnt say its the only way.
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Calendar is slightly improved but not that mch diff then HD2 v6.5. Camera, I personally hate, the button on side to use to take pix, every pic i take is blurry by the time u get the button just right to take the pic.
Still not much fluidity.

Functionality aside, it's pleasing to the eye. The email app, calender, bing search, pictures, zune, the settings. Everything within the UI flows together. Even the apps that were made for it, AP news, rss feeds. It just flows together really well. Yes Android has more function but I do not feel that it flows the same way WP7 does. And again, I respect that others will prefer Androids UI. I posted this to see how others felt.

rllong1 said:
I have been going back and forth between the HD7 and Mytouch 4g. After using the new WP7 platform. I just find it hard to go back to Android. Android definitely has more (i.e. multitasking, flash in browser, better specs). But Android seems so chaotic now, WP7 is so easy to use. Not that Android is confusing but it is definitely not as streamlined throughout the UI like iOS or WP7. Just my opinion but I think I am finally going to stick with the HD7.
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I had a MyTouch 4g and couldn't stand the looks of it. It had a plasticy button panel, protrusions for the HP jack and USB port. The UI was ugly but I chose it over the G2...which I should have gone with...because of the front facing camera for video calls. At the time, I couldn't get it to throughput data so I returned it and acquired another HD7. I've washed my hands of all things Android and won't look back. Android is chaotic and just not worth having.

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I had a MyTouch 4g and couldn't stand the looks of it. It had a plasticy button panel, protrusions for the HP jack and USB port. The UI was ugly but I chose it over the G2...which I should have gone with...because of the front facing camera for video calls. At the time, I couldn't get it to throughput data so I returned it and acquired another HD7. I've washed my hands of all things Android and won't look back. Android is chaotic and just not worth having.
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This is what I was getting at lol. It does seem chaotic. I know some people prefer but in the HD7 forum, I figured most would agree.

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This is what I was getting at lol. It does seem chaotic. I know some people prefer but in the HD7 forum, I figured most would agree.
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I have both and honestly, I agree as well for the most part
I can deal with WP7 lack of apps, cut and paste, lack of custom ringtones, and lack of flash
The only thing that truly bothers me about my hd7...is the camera...it is absolutely horrible...the button is way to hard to press and by the time i press it, it is blurry
I do love the fact my mytouch has a webcam so i can videochat with any and everybody i want and it's camera is amazing
but after using the mytouch for the past day,
It just feels archaic....
IOS seems archaic to android and android seems archaic to wp7...
Having to pull down the notification panel to see notifications vs. the live and interactive tiles....makes it just fun and intuitive to look at
People on HTC Android Vs HTC WP7 is not just about facebook...I do love the facebook intergration and the only thing that nearly matches it on android is blur...To me blur is the best UI as far as social integration goes on android...Sense lacks alot of the capabilities of Blur as does touchwiz...
I like the font is a lot bigger(even though my eyesight is perfectly fine...i like that is fun and in your face)
The overall UI is just a lot better when comparing to Android and that is not to say Android is not great...I love Android
But there are quite a few things that Android still is sucking at...that shouldn't be that hard to fix or include that WP7 got out in it's Version 1.0

carmeng4evr said:
I have both and honestly, I agree as well for the most part
I can deal with WP7 lack of apps, cut and paste, lack of custom ringtones, and lack of flash
The only thing that truly bothers me about my hd7...is the camera...it is absolutely horrible...the button is way to hard to press and by the time i press it, it is blurry
I do love the fact my mytouch has a webcam so i can videochat with any and everybody i want and it's camera is amazing
but after using the mytouch for the past day,
It just feels archaic....
IOS seems archaic to android and android seems archaic to wp7...
Having to pull down the notification panel to see notifications vs. the live and interactive tiles....makes it just fun and intuitive to look at
People on HTC Android Vs HTC WP7 is not just about facebook...I do love the facebook intergration and the only thing that nearly matches it on android is blur...To me blur is the best UI as far as social integration goes on android...Sense lacks alot of the capabilities of Blur as does touchwiz...
I like the font is a lot bigger(even though my eyesight is perfectly fine...i like that is fun and in your face)
The overall UI is just a lot better when comparing to Android and that is not to say Android is not great...I love Android
But there are quite a few things that Android still is sucking at...that shouldn't be that hard to fix or include that WP7 got out in it's Version 1.0
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The HD7 has a two-stage camera button. Pressing part way down focuses and then a full press snaps the focused picture. If you just press down fully immediately it won't have time to focus and will be blurry.

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The HD7 has a two-stage camera button. Pressing part way down focuses and then a full press snaps the focused picture. If you just press down fully immediately it won't have time to focus and will be blurry.
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Thanks, I am going to take a bunch of pix tonight just for fun/facebook lol
and i am going to try your way out
I do generally press it down all the way immediately
and i guess because i move it blurs the images....

Do You Like Your HD7? (And should I get one?)

Hi guys, I currently own a G2 (That I love) and you can see my device history in my sig, which clearly states that I'm an android fan.
However, I always love to try new things, and I'm really liking the simplicity of WP7 as well as the Zune music player.
So I was thinking, the HD7 is damn cheap on eBay right now, why not get one?
Please leave below why I should or should not get an HD7 to use along side my G2 (not at the same time of course).
Thanks!
(this thread is meant to be a reference for future buyers as well, so be critical!)

I am a Android user since the G1 as well. Since 2008: G1, MT3G, iPhone, HD2, Nexus One, HD2 (again) running Android, BB9700, Vibrant, MT4G now a HD7. So you can see we have similar experience.
That being said the HD7 is far better than any Android in the refinement/smoothness/response of the OS. As soon as you leave the native OS however that goes away. I have not found one app from the market that performs like the rest of the phone does. The market apps are slow, gittery and at this point not the most rewarding experience.
I am confident issues like these will improve with time; I am sure you remember looking at a black screen on the G1 alot of the time.
WP7 is a breeze to use and I actually like it. The keyboard is the best I have used period. WP7 is missing alot of key features but for a brand new OS that has been out only a couple months it is pretty good, much better than Android was in Oct 2008, remember waiting for "Cupcake"?
WP7 is due for a couple updates in the first half of 2011, I anticipate some major improvements if Microsoft plans of capturing market share.
So to answer your question should you get one? I would, thats exactly what I did. The Zune integration is great and if you like games XBOX is all over this phone. WP7 is Microsoft's iOS, it has its own eco system which makes for a nice experience.

i really really want to buy hd7 but i really really want atleast the ability to transfer photos by bluetooth... rest of the cons can be neglected as far as i am concerned. but i will wait for new devices and updates to the software. currently it can be said that hd7 is not the very best of the lot. its better to wait. rest depends from person to person

Love my HD7 too. Though I must admit I also miss my HD2

Looks pretty positive. Polar opposites of what the reviewers said.
I think WP7 has potential. I remember on the G1 how ridiculously awful every application was.

It will be great with an update.
I have been with t mobile for years. I have used a iphone, a g1, nexus one, hd2, and now on the hd7. I miss some things like, copy and paste, custom ringtones, and tethering, but I like the user interface better than anything I have used so far. I think an update, which is rumored to be hitting next month (1/11), would hopefully bring some of these things to the software and that will really make this phone tops in its class.

hiddengopher said:
Hi guys, I currently own a G2 (That I love) and you can see my device history in my sig, which clearly states that I'm an android fan.
However, I always love to try new things, and I'm really liking the simplicity of WP7 as well as the Zune music player.
So I was thinking, the HD7 is damn cheap on eBay right now, why not get one?
Please leave below why I should or should not get an HD7 to use along side my G2 (not at the same time of course).
Thanks!
(this thread is meant to be a reference for future buyers as well, so be critical!)
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I really like the phone. The OS makes it feel like an "adult" phone to me. I am coming from an iPhone 4 and Samsung Vibrant. I also like the aesthetics of the phone as well, although I am trying to see if I could ever get a peek at the Dell Venue Pro in person...
The only things I am missing are: Wifi calling and tethering.
Annoyances are: lack of skype, lack of twitter integration in the People hub, and inability to sync multiple Google Calendars.
However, I am more than happy to work around those things and I am enjoying the phone immensely. I am getting poor battery life, but I think that's because it's fresh eye candy and I'm playing with the phone alot.
Also, the Zune Pass saved me from buying two trashy albums already!!!

anyjah said:
I really like the phone. The OS makes it feel like an "adult" phone to me. I am coming from an iPhone 4 and Samsung Vibrant. I also like the aesthetics of the phone as well, although I am trying to see if I could ever get a peek at the Dell Venue Pro in person...
The only things I am missing are: Wifi calling and tethering.
Annoyances are: lack of skype, lack of twitter integration in the People hub, and inability to sync multiple Google Calendars.
However, I am more than happy to work around those things and I am enjoying the phone immensely. I am getting poor battery life, but I think that's because it's fresh eye candy and I'm playing with the phone alot.
Also, the Zune Pass saved me from buying two trashy albums already!!!
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Wow, sounds awesome, as I don't use those things.
The Venue Pro is a POS by the way. I used one at my Microsoft store and it was just terrible. It really felt like plastic. I'm sure you know what I mean if you're coming from a vibrant.
The hinge was pretty bad too. And the keyboard wasn't very nice. Plus, it looks awkward as hell.

Similar thread with poll already exist
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9353155&postcount=1

I really like my hd7 and windows phone 7 because it fits my needs and daily usage. I mean yeah, it lacks a few things such as copy and paste, tethering and multitasking but what a lot of people don't understand that this a fresh, brand new operating system still in its infancy and with Microsoft's big updates coming next month and etc, I think that wp7 will give Android and IOS a run for its money. As for my personal opinion, my hd7 is fast and I can't wait for the upcoming update. Plus everything works out of the box. The email syncing is great, Facebook integration is amazing and the marketplace is really evolving. I have all the apps I really need and they were free.
The hd7 itself feels really sturdy and has a great build quality to it. I don't really care for the camera because I have my canon 5d mark II for that.

hiddengopher said:
Wow, sounds awesome, as I don't use those things.
The Venue Pro is a POS by the way. I used one at my Microsoft store and it was just terrible. It really felt like plastic. I'm sure you know what I mean if you're coming from a vibrant.
The hinge was pretty bad too. And the keyboard wasn't very nice. Plus, it looks awkward as hell.
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*lol* Thanks for the input... I've read differently in the reviews, but if it's anything close to the Vibrant, you're right, I want NO part of it... The RAM controversy with it is driving me away also... so we'll see.....

alesscam said:
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not similar at all. sorry.

i think the phone is worth it. I prefer it to android and ios simply because it is more visually elegant. the one thing that i really appreciate is the integration. All i did was log into gmail, facebook and live and the phone combined all my contacts correctly. there were a dozen names i had to manually set but that was due to them appearing as different contacts (i.e. different names and details).
There are a lot missing but what is there is delightful.
3rd party apps are hit and miss. Alot are not as elegant but some, like nyt app, are really elegant. my initial fear that most developers would not understand the design convention and principles seem to have been true; so far. Metro UI/design is much more abstract than the android/ios designs; which tend to be much more literal.

If you are into taking pictures with your phone, this phone is not the phone for you. If you can deal with blurry pictures it is a great phone
I miss Android only for it's amount of apps but this phone is the best to me on tmobile
What it lacks in functionality it makes up twice as more in User experience
and once it's functionality is onpar with Android, it will be even better

HTC HD7
hey guys just placed my order for it.. should be in my hands in a couple of days.. really excited cos its my first windows phone rather than the a wp7 for that matter. i have been using a galaxy s from the past 4 months and got fed up of delayed updates.. and the whole fragmented system.. The metro UI although new looks more mature and more like one piece. Was actually waiting for a UI overhaul in Gingerbread but seems like that will appear in honeycomb.. but that still is no match fr WP7.. Btw i know this is a bit off topic but have any off you guys have any problems with the touch sensitivity of the screen of the HD7?

spankyu said:
hey guys just placed my order for it.. should be in my hands in a couple of days.. really excited cos its my first windows phone rather than the a wp7 for that matter. i have been using a galaxy s from the past 4 months and got fed up of delayed updates.. and the whole fragmented system.. The metro UI although new looks more mature and more like one piece. Was actually waiting for a UI overhaul in Gingerbread but seems like that will appear in honeycomb.. but that still is no match fr WP7.. Btw i know this is a bit off topic but have any off you guys have any problems with the touch sensitivity of the screen of the HD7?
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I have a problem with the program 'moBudget' in which there is a tiny 8pt font link that I have trouble getting to... But other than that, I haven't noticed many problems; although, I am certain I've had to double tap somethings since I have had the phone. Overall, probably 8/10...

anyjah said:
I have a problem with the program 'moBudget' in which there is a tiny 8pt font link that I have trouble getting to... But other than that, I haven't noticed many problems; although, I am certain I've had to double tap somethings since I have had the phone. Overall, probably 8/10...
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Cool thanks. hope all goes good with piece that i ordered

I posted this on another board a few days ago... Comparing a Desire HD to a HD7
Bought a Desire HD yesterday (£240 brand new from CEX - traded some stuff in) seems pretty nice, seems like an improvement over the Desire - some nice little tweaks across the whole Sense experiance.
Strangely my problem is not with the Desire HD itself, its with Andriod. Last month I had a WP7 - HD7 land in my lap. They are pretty much the same unit (except for the camera) same form factor with some different button placement. In recent months i've been taking a step back from my whole "Smartphone" experinence. Re evaluating what i use it for and how i use it.
Essentials:
PIM functions (calendar, mail etc)
A bit of Gaming
Access to the news (tech, local, National, International, Gaming, entertainment etc)
Music & Media
As long as i have those i'm happy. Its all well and good having 1,000,000 apps but if you only use 5 its pretty pointless. So what you need to know is do they have the ones you want?
My first impression of the DHD was what the hell did HTC do with the cover at the back? It doesn't fit properly. Its not flush at the sides - the Engadget review mentions it too so its not just my example. Seems a shame that after designing a beautiful flagship device you let it down with something so minor. Other than that though its pretty nice.
Once i turned it on i was impressed by the speed - how quick does this baby boot!! However, after that my problems returned. Problems might be the wrong word here, what struck me was the complexity of the Robot after a almost a month with WP7. Andriod feels bloated and fat and the handset can be a little sluggish at times which concidering the speed of the CPU is a disappointment. It took me a while to get it setup as i like it, so its now almost a a carbon copy of my old Desire (only its not rooted yet). WP7 "Metro UI" is like a breath of fresh air compared to Andriod. After all Andriod is pretty much iOS (minus the widgets) 4x4 icons across several screens with app icons to press. Granted the intergation of the OS is much more pronounced than iOS which is just an app launcher at the end day and works in Andriods favour, however it can make it an unweldy beast to setup. Metro works on an almost 3D layed effect using different images that scroll at different speeds. Its hard to explain you have ot se it. the IMDb app is beautiful to look at and looks better than any other version odf it i've seen. There is a lot of potential in "Metro". I will offer a word of caution though. It can have the habit of chopping of the end of words in some menus, your eiher going to like this or hate it.
WP7 is a breeze to setup but thats because there isn't much to setup. Instead of the usual "4x4" arrangment and screens that move left to right (or vice versa) WP7 opts for a vertical menu that is as long as you want it to be. instead of icons they arte callled "tiles" and some of them are "live tiles". This means that they constntly update with info. For example, if you place a contact tile on ou homescreen it will show a picture of them and their latest facebook update. You can add tiles for apps, contacts, albums, artists. Its a very nice way of doing things slightly differently from iOS and Andriod.
The one thing that Andriod does very badly is Music, yes it has lots of good music players but syncing music/podcasts etc is a pain compered to the iPhone. WP7 doesn't have this problem as it uses "Zune" and the streaming music service and it is lovely, very easy to use and very fast and is present across my whole network. The intergration with my PC, existing music collection and my Xbox 360 is pretty seemless. Andriod cant compete with that i'm afriad. I'd even go as far to say that anyone using a Windows PC would benefit from this over using iTunes and an iPhone 4. iTunes was always a dog on a PC. Zune is a very competent peice of software. It's fast and very easy to use, is fully featured and easily ass good at iTunes in terms of functionality.
It would be unfair not to mention "GAMING". The "Xbox Live" brand will have this one nailed in a very short space of time. The games i have so far are excellent, yes some of them have cost me money but hey you get what you pay for. Its been a buzz to get "Achievements" on the train on the way to work. Andriod is hampered by the broad tech base of the handsets - different resolutions etc.
So App stores? the Andriod market is dauting place i think most of us would agree it has a lot of diamonds in the rough and a lot of rubbish apps but i guess thats the nature of "open source". But it has most of the things you want. The WP7 "marketplace" is growing at around 150 apps a day and i have to say some of them are pretty impressive. Because M$ have choosen to follow apple with the walled garden approach the quality of the apps is very good. Its still got a very long way to go but what i've seen so far the quality will be threre
WP7 has a number of week spots mostly around calendars and PIM fuctions that are not good as Andriod, but that said i am a "Google" user I was disappointed to find out that the calendar cant handle multiple calendars (i had 11 different ones covering different aspects of my life) I'm sure they will fix this an fure updates as "outlook" calendars already work. I'm not sure if i will keep the DHD at this stage as i'm missing the simplicity of WP7 and its intergration with my home network/PC and xbox live. Its a very nice device but im not sure, i think M$ may have just won me back.
Before it came out i was very dismissive of WP7 "why are M$ bothering" "it will be rubbish". I was wrong, very wrong. Botton line, this is the best OS first release of an OS I've seen. It feels far more complete than either early Andriod or iPhone releases. Its an excellent effort. However, it still go some way to go before it catches up with iOS or the Robot. It will be one to watch in the coming years, be real interesting to see what its like in a couple of years.
I think discusing the hardware is a bit of moot point but if i had to pick, i'd like WP7 on the DHD hardware - the DHD is without doubt one of the finest peices of hardware i've ever used, its beautiful, i can see why DHD owners are so happy with it.
I predicted sometime ago that Andriod WILL be the dominant phone OS and see no reason to change that prediction. Wheather WP7 can catch up to iOS is hugely debatable going forward but this is a very solid start and i am totally smitten with it, there is a lot to love and even more to like. It nice to know that i will never have to install iTunes again as i have TWO solid choices for smartphone OS other than the dreaded fruit mobile and the guy with only one set of clothes.
I dont think its the finished article by a long way. But it really does show great promise. Indeed, right now i have HD7 and DHD on my desk and my chosen daily phone is the WP7 device. In many areas nowhere near as good as Andriod but I can overlook them because i just love how it works, it feels light and nimble to use. I dont want anyone to think i have a downer on the DHD or Andriod I love them both. But right now its WP7 thats floating my boat. Its going to be interesting to watch it develop in the coming years.
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Im in the same boat. Im a big Android guy but I love the look and feel of WP7. Every time i pass by the tmobile store i stop in and play with the HD7. Just saw one on craigslist for a good price, think i might finally dive in.

MvP77 said:
Im in the same boat. Im a big Android guy but I love the look and feel of WP7. Every time i pass by the tmobile store i stop in and play with the HD7. Just saw one on craigslist for a good price, think i might finally dive in.
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same...my G2 is great but WP7 is so sexy

Upgrading to 4.3 or 4.2?

Is there any chance that the HTC First will have a 4.3 or a 4.2 upgrade any time soon? Or is it just not a possibility yet?

lastrastuff said:
Is there any chance that the HTC First will have a 4.3 or a 4.2 upgrade any time soon? Or is it just not a possibility yet?
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BOTH HTC and ATT have denied any future updating or support for this device...aka "discontinued" as they say...although its not a bad device and with the resources that HTC has they could easily pull of an update since the one mini is pretty much a clone.
To get cyanogenmod support we need to be a bigger community and although the device is pretty good, i guess we wont get official CM.
Ports? Um people have tried and so far zero results...we know its possible just no dev has bought himself a first, they go with the One, or the Nexus 5...u know the more popular stuff (which should be an apple thing. Android fans should go for the promising devices and not whats popular or whats good).
so...we are dead.

russian392 said:
To get cyanogenmod support we need to be a bigger community and although the device is pretty good, i guess we wont get official CM.
Ports? Um people have tried and so far zero results...we know its possible just no dev has bought himself a first, they go with the One, or the Nexus 5...u know the more popular stuff (which should be an apple thing. Android fans should go for the promising devices and not whats popular or whats good).
so...we are dead.
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Ah well darn. I found some stuff online that let me upgrade some select apps to look and feel like 4.3, but it just wasn't the same. It seems like the Myst has a lot of potential, especially with being able to over clock to 1.7Ghz. I think everyone sees it as the "Facebook phone" which is really unappealing to the majority of the Android market who tend be a little more tech savy and less into sharing every detail of their life on Facebook. I think the first thing most of us did with the phone was remove the Facebook launcher anyways. Thanks for your help!

lastrastuff said:
Ah well darn. I found some stuff online that let me upgrade some select apps to look and feel like 4.3, but it just wasn't the same. It seems like the Myst has a lot of potential, especially with being able to over clock to 1.7Ghz. I think everyone sees it as the "Facebook phone" which is really unappealing to the majority of the Android market who tend be a little more tech savy and less into sharing every detail of their life on Facebook. I think the first thing most of us did with the phone was remove the Facebook launcher anyways. Thanks for your help!
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Yes i have done that to my device...there is a android 4.2 clock somewhere in this HTC First forum that i used to replace the uselss 4.1 clock. You just need to find the original clock apk in /System/App and /Data/data and /Data/app and remove it. Then install that clock instead.
The Myst / First has even more potential. The cpu was originally developed to be clocked BY DEFAULT at 1.7GHz, so it can be overclocked to 2Ghz easy.
Yeah i just removed that launcher, but for some reason on the First most launchers LAG like crazy and the best one i found so far is Nova. And yes the facebook marketing was a fail BUT i think it was more of a test run for the hardware. Because now HTC has the One Mini and the desire 601 (i think its the 601) that have very similar/same hardware.
Personally i am loving this phone. Its not too big like a 4.7 inch, but its not too small like a 4 inch. Its perfectly proportionate, its not wide like the old bulky htc phones which had the 2:1 aspect ratio. So it really is a great phone. The glass is shatter resistant. Metal will scratch it deeply and if dropped, the body dents (its actually aluminum with a soft touch finish!) so you can just bend the body back to how it was and it wont seem dented. The body does scratch easy though and ive cracked the screen in the top corner but thank god no shatter, it just a crack that i cant feel anyways...also the glass chips easy, like pieces come off lol
Overall i think its worth my 140 bucks when i got it new off contract

russian392 said:
Yes i have done that to my device...there is a android 4.2 clock somewhere in this HTC First forum that i used to replace the uselss 4.1 clock. You just need to find the original clock apk in /System/App and /Data/data and /Data/app and remove it. Then install that clock instead.
The Myst / First has even more potential. The cpu was originally developed to be clocked BY DEFAULT at 1.7GHz, so it can be overclocked to 2Ghz easy.
Yeah i just removed that launcher, but for some reason on the First most launchers LAG like crazy and the best one i found so far is Nova. And yes the facebook marketing was a fail BUT i think it was more of a test run for the hardware. Because now HTC has the One Mini and the desire 601 (i think its the 601) that have very similar/same hardware.
Personally i am loving this phone. Its not too big like a 4.7 inch, but its not too small like a 4 inch. Its perfectly proportionate, its not wide like the old bulky htc phones which had the 2:1 aspect ratio. So it really is a great phone. The glass is shatter resistant. Metal will scratch it deeply and if dropped, the body dents (its actually aluminum with a soft touch finish!) so you can just bend the body back to how it was and it wont seem dented. The body does scratch easy though and ive cracked the screen in the top corner but thank god no shatter, it just a crack that i cant feel anyways...also the glass chips easy, like pieces come off lol
Overall i think its worth my 140 bucks when i got it new off contract
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I agree! Its an excellent phone and works very well. The default Google launcher works very well for me, but I think I'm going to try Nova now and see if it works any better. Have you overclocked yours to 2ghz? Did you have to flash a new kernel? Have you had any experience with Google Music lagging on lock screened playback?

lastrastuff said:
I agree! Its an excellent phone and works very well. The default Google launcher works very well for me, but I think I'm going to try Nova now and see if it works any better. Have you overclocked yours to 2ghz? Did you have to flash a new kernel? Have you had any experience with Google Music lagging on lock screened playback?
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No i haven't over clocked. i actually under clocked. I run my phone at 1GHz performance governor with deadline as my I/O scheduler.
No google music works fine for me. i have over 160 songs downloaded to the device that i bought.
You can flash a new kernel and idk what the max is on that, but you would need to do a factory reset.