Upgrading to 4.3 or 4.2? - HTC First

Is there any chance that the HTC First will have a 4.3 or a 4.2 upgrade any time soon? Or is it just not a possibility yet?

lastrastuff said:
Is there any chance that the HTC First will have a 4.3 or a 4.2 upgrade any time soon? Or is it just not a possibility yet?
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BOTH HTC and ATT have denied any future updating or support for this device...aka "discontinued" as they say...although its not a bad device and with the resources that HTC has they could easily pull of an update since the one mini is pretty much a clone.
To get cyanogenmod support we need to be a bigger community and although the device is pretty good, i guess we wont get official CM.
Ports? Um people have tried and so far zero results...we know its possible just no dev has bought himself a first, they go with the One, or the Nexus 5...u know the more popular stuff (which should be an apple thing. Android fans should go for the promising devices and not whats popular or whats good).
so...we are dead.

russian392 said:
To get cyanogenmod support we need to be a bigger community and although the device is pretty good, i guess we wont get official CM.
Ports? Um people have tried and so far zero results...we know its possible just no dev has bought himself a first, they go with the One, or the Nexus 5...u know the more popular stuff (which should be an apple thing. Android fans should go for the promising devices and not whats popular or whats good).
so...we are dead.
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Ah well darn. I found some stuff online that let me upgrade some select apps to look and feel like 4.3, but it just wasn't the same. It seems like the Myst has a lot of potential, especially with being able to over clock to 1.7Ghz. I think everyone sees it as the "Facebook phone" which is really unappealing to the majority of the Android market who tend be a little more tech savy and less into sharing every detail of their life on Facebook. I think the first thing most of us did with the phone was remove the Facebook launcher anyways. Thanks for your help!

lastrastuff said:
Ah well darn. I found some stuff online that let me upgrade some select apps to look and feel like 4.3, but it just wasn't the same. It seems like the Myst has a lot of potential, especially with being able to over clock to 1.7Ghz. I think everyone sees it as the "Facebook phone" which is really unappealing to the majority of the Android market who tend be a little more tech savy and less into sharing every detail of their life on Facebook. I think the first thing most of us did with the phone was remove the Facebook launcher anyways. Thanks for your help!
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Yes i have done that to my device...there is a android 4.2 clock somewhere in this HTC First forum that i used to replace the uselss 4.1 clock. You just need to find the original clock apk in /System/App and /Data/data and /Data/app and remove it. Then install that clock instead.
The Myst / First has even more potential. The cpu was originally developed to be clocked BY DEFAULT at 1.7GHz, so it can be overclocked to 2Ghz easy.
Yeah i just removed that launcher, but for some reason on the First most launchers LAG like crazy and the best one i found so far is Nova. And yes the facebook marketing was a fail BUT i think it was more of a test run for the hardware. Because now HTC has the One Mini and the desire 601 (i think its the 601) that have very similar/same hardware.
Personally i am loving this phone. Its not too big like a 4.7 inch, but its not too small like a 4 inch. Its perfectly proportionate, its not wide like the old bulky htc phones which had the 2:1 aspect ratio. So it really is a great phone. The glass is shatter resistant. Metal will scratch it deeply and if dropped, the body dents (its actually aluminum with a soft touch finish!) so you can just bend the body back to how it was and it wont seem dented. The body does scratch easy though and ive cracked the screen in the top corner but thank god no shatter, it just a crack that i cant feel anyways...also the glass chips easy, like pieces come off lol
Overall i think its worth my 140 bucks when i got it new off contract

russian392 said:
Yes i have done that to my device...there is a android 4.2 clock somewhere in this HTC First forum that i used to replace the uselss 4.1 clock. You just need to find the original clock apk in /System/App and /Data/data and /Data/app and remove it. Then install that clock instead.
The Myst / First has even more potential. The cpu was originally developed to be clocked BY DEFAULT at 1.7GHz, so it can be overclocked to 2Ghz easy.
Yeah i just removed that launcher, but for some reason on the First most launchers LAG like crazy and the best one i found so far is Nova. And yes the facebook marketing was a fail BUT i think it was more of a test run for the hardware. Because now HTC has the One Mini and the desire 601 (i think its the 601) that have very similar/same hardware.
Personally i am loving this phone. Its not too big like a 4.7 inch, but its not too small like a 4 inch. Its perfectly proportionate, its not wide like the old bulky htc phones which had the 2:1 aspect ratio. So it really is a great phone. The glass is shatter resistant. Metal will scratch it deeply and if dropped, the body dents (its actually aluminum with a soft touch finish!) so you can just bend the body back to how it was and it wont seem dented. The body does scratch easy though and ive cracked the screen in the top corner but thank god no shatter, it just a crack that i cant feel anyways...also the glass chips easy, like pieces come off lol
Overall i think its worth my 140 bucks when i got it new off contract
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I agree! Its an excellent phone and works very well. The default Google launcher works very well for me, but I think I'm going to try Nova now and see if it works any better. Have you overclocked yours to 2ghz? Did you have to flash a new kernel? Have you had any experience with Google Music lagging on lock screened playback?

lastrastuff said:
I agree! Its an excellent phone and works very well. The default Google launcher works very well for me, but I think I'm going to try Nova now and see if it works any better. Have you overclocked yours to 2ghz? Did you have to flash a new kernel? Have you had any experience with Google Music lagging on lock screened playback?
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No i haven't over clocked. i actually under clocked. I run my phone at 1GHz performance governor with deadline as my I/O scheduler.
No google music works fine for me. i have over 160 songs downloaded to the device that i bought.
You can flash a new kernel and idk what the max is on that, but you would need to do a factory reset.

Related

What is your favorite part of the n1?

What do you love most about owning the nexus one?
mine is simple... aside from it doing everything my iphone did...
I love the live wallpapers, lol.
free apps without jailbreaking or rooting... and I like how from the contacts... you can email, facebook, text, call a person with a single touch.
I love the live wallpapers myself..
I must admit it does seem like an all around nice phone.. However, I still figured I'd see what people said.
I really love the general handiness of the device, its just endlessly capable:
hotspot, flash, RDC ,browser, navigation, maps, apps, media, camera, sturdiness, all the google apps, the customization...i just love the damn phone!
The only limit i can identify is my carrier TMobile (of course i love the price and cant complain because you get what you pay for and the 3g is very, very fast in my opinion), im in san antonio yet i only have 3g about 1/2 the time and data goes away totally in about 2/3 of the buildings/stores which i think is pretty unreasonable especially in a big, highly populated city.
The only thing i am disappointed with on the phone is the general touchscreen interaction; the scrolling, dragging, etc should be smoother but thats a relatively minor complaint. As great as the phone is right now i will definitely order the Nexus 2 on day one; better processor/ROM/RAM/camera/HD recording/resolution are more than just competitive as of now but by the end of the year ill probably be jealous of other Androids.
Looks like I did a really horrible job of just answering your question, sorry
the screen. perfect size, like a mini tablet in your pocket for web browsing, and the amoled colors make it pleasing to the eyes compared to lcd screens.
or build quality and materials would be second answer.
i love it for beeing completely unmodified and vanilla android after owning a crippled HTC Android phone
Because its Googles baby, N1 owners get first dibs on anything new happening in Android.
The way it sweats sexy. Its aluminum body. The usable camera. B-E-A-utiful AMOLED screen.
Only dislike is the trackball. Mine refuses to scroll left but works fine any other direction.
The build.. I had a look at a Xperia that runs Android at work from a colleague, and i was stunned how it felt so lightweight and cheap built piece of plastic.
watercool said:
i love it for beeing completely unmodified and vanilla android after owning a crippled HTC Android phone
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Gotta agree with you there. I just hope there will be more phones in the future with vanilla android. I'm just tired of the whole rooting and flashing ROMs bit after having 100+ ROMs on my last WM phone, so no I just keep my N1 stock and I like it.
With Froyo I see no reason to root anymore and that's a good thing imo.
It is a dandy phone with everything on it, sometimes i will have a problem that needs to be solved, and can be solved by using my phone.
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With Froyo I see no reason to root anymore and that's a good thing imo.
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My rom flashing has stopped since i got froyo, but i know it will start up again once cyanyogenmod 6 comes out.
AMOLED screen... I love it!

Thoughts on the T-Mobile G2X as compared to the Nexus

I currently own a Nexus S and love it. I just wanted to get your opinions on The G2X and how it may compare to the NS. Aside from lacking gingerbread, what other potential downsides am i looking at? What are the upsides? I'm just looking for constructive feedback. No Flame throwing
tarusdg said:
I currently own a Nexus S and love it. I just wanted to get your opinions on The G2X and how it may compare to the NS. Aside from lacking gingerbread, what other potential downsides am i looking at? What are the upsides? I'm just looking for constructive feedback. No Flame throwing
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The Nexus S beats it in every department except video recording, so its up to you what you deem important
Nexus S is fast, amazing screen and housing which make the phone when off look like a black slab of coal, also when the phone is on the blacks stay that colour, so you dont know where the screen starts and finishes...
The Nexus S is the real deal mate, i cant see anything living up to its quality, except for maybe the SGSII
JD
Im having the same problem. But im also wondering between my Nexus s, the new T-Mobile G2X and upcoming HTC Pyramid.
My opinion.
Nexus s - Love this phone, have nothing bad to say, never had all the issues everyone was having (rebooting).
T-Mobile G2X - Reviews say the phone is sluggish for a phone with dual core, but it might be due to the custom UI. The G2X comes with stock gingerbread which is a plus but how how easy will this be to developers to root and install custom rom. Have never had a LG phone and dont know how the quality is.
HTC Pyramid - Still needs to be released but the spec looks amazing and I love HTC quality (nexus one). Recently HTC had not been too nice to devs. with G2 and Thunderbolt.
Wait til all the phone get released and then see what happens, see what fits for me.
nexus s is the real deal....unless yours is with tmobile....then in 2 years...its useless (unless you enjoy using a smartphone for 2g)
thats just a techinicality, most of us will move on by then, but the gx2 needs some more time before we can dive into it. but its dual core and 4g, cant really hate on that. ofcourse battery life can be a good fight (im on 22hrs and 30minutes on my nexus s right now and its still at 15%)
amoled screen is another thing...the fact that it doesnt have gingerbread is not abig deal at all, from what i read this is reaallly stock android with the exception of some apps, not skins or UI
babluc said:
Im having the same problem. But im also wondering between my Nexus s, the new T-Mobile G2X and upcoming HTC Pyramid.
My opinion.
Nexus s - Love this phone, have nothing bad to say, never had all the issues everyone was having (rebooting).
T-Mobile G2X - Reviews say the phone is sluggish for a phone with dual core, but it might be due to the custom UI. The G2X comes with stock gingerbread which is a plus but how how easy will this be to developers to root and install custom rom. Have never had a LG phone and dont know how the quality is.
HTC Pyramid - Still needs to be released but the spec looks amazing and I love HTC quality (nexus one). Recently HTC had not been too nice to devs. with G2 and Thunderbolt.
Wait til all the phone get released and then see what happens, see what fits for me.
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The Pyramid is the one that I'm waiting to see more about.
Yeah i hope we are able to see some hands-on vids today. I agree that only time will tell if its a winner or not. Those specs do make it seem like a beast of a phone though, and stock android has a significant place in my heart.
tarusdg said:
Yeah i hope we are able to see some hands-on vids today. I agree that only time will tell if its a winner or not. Those specs do make it seem like a beast of a phone though, and stock android has a significant place in my heart.
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I definitely would not buy anything less that a screen with AMOLED. I was a HTC fanatic, i owned the HTC Desire, Nexus One, Desire Z (G2) and the HD. But once you convert to Samsung you never look back, i could never have a SLCD screen again(greyish blacks yuk)...
But i do miss Sense sometimes, and i know that's a contentious issue in this forum as there are so many Sense haters here, but i like having the choice to mix up my ROM's by having stock for a few months then Sense for a few months.. With the Nexus S your pretty much restricted to stock or MIUI, But thank god for the MIUI release, its invigorated the dev forum. Lots of kernels and same-ish ROM's, thank god we have something new to play with
JD
JupiterDroid said:
I definitely would not buy anything less that a screen with AMOLED. I was a HTC fanatic, i owned the HTC Desire, Nexus One, Desire Z (G2) and the HD. But once you convert to Samsung you never look back, i could never have a SLCD screen again(greyish blacks yuk)...
But i do miss Sense sometimes, and i know that's a contentious issue in this forum as there are so many Sense haters here, but i like having the choice to mix up my ROM's by having stock for a few months then Sense for a few months.. With the Nexus S your pretty much restricted to stock or MIUI, But thank god for the MIUI release, its invigorated the dev forum. Lots of kernels and same-ish ROM's, thank god we have something new to play with
JD
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I used to feel the same way when I had my Epic 4G. I thought I could put up with anything for a SAMOLED but then I started playing with an Evo. Sure, the screen as quite as brilliant but a great screen does not a device make. I've made my opinion on Sense clear but I won't dis on someone else's enjoyment of it (doesn't mean I don't get tired of seeing new threads pop up asking for it). The only thing that would really make me not want to get a Pyramid is if the bootloader is as locked down as the Thunderbolt but something tells me that was something Verizon wanted but that is a personal hunch supported by absolutely no evidence so don't quote me on it. I could easily give up the SAMOLED, hell it makes me feel more comfortable running bright themes and I think it helps devs want to make them.
Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.
babluc said:
Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.
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That's not 100% true. They will work fine, you just won't get 3G.
kenvan19 said:
That's not 100% true. They will work fine, you just won't get 3G.
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But dont you think thats a big issue.
babluc said:
Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.
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This article explains that it might be future-proof. I hope its true
babluc said:
Anyone concerned with the issues of these phones not being future proof. These phones not working once att get a hold of tmobile.
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That's most likely a year or more from now. By then you'd have replaced your phone anyways.
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But dont you think thats a big issue.
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I wouldn't say its a big issue. I'm usually on wifi. Sure EDGE sucks but its better than nothing and it is still completely functional.
Hardware aside... doesn't anyone else find this phone to be massively ugly?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/lgg2xhandson.jpg
That dead space where the capacitive buttons are just looks way too 1990's to me...
dinan said:
Hardware aside... doesn't anyone else find this phone to be massively ugly?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/lgg2xhandson.jpg
That dead space where the capacitive buttons are just looks way too 1990's to me...
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Yeah, thats ugly, defo
JD
hands on:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/
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hands on:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/
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It is waaaaay faster than the 2x was when they reviewed it.
dinan said:
Hardware aside... doesn't anyone else find this phone to be massively ugly?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/lgg2xhandson.jpg
That dead space where the capacitive buttons are just looks way too 1990's to me...
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i dont find it ugly at all.. just the bottom of the phone is a little bit exaggerated and could of added more screen size rather than having blank spots; probably something internal of the phone hardware that prevented that or they didnt want to overextend the screen size
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It is waaaaay faster than the 2x was when they reviewed it.
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Well... it looks snappy, but it's quite obvious the video is sped up. I know for a fact people's fingers don't move like that, all jittery lol. And if it's really using stock android, that stock launcher should animate just like our stock launcher, and it's way too fast in the video (opening the app drawer etc).

LG OPTIMUS 2x CHOPPY-DONT BUY

Hi,
i just got this phone and i was really excited but then it all went wrong
Unlock screen is choppy
I found the menu preview is so choppy
Sliding to the next screen is choppy
The camera loads after ages and takes photos ages after u click the camera button
The camera is no good all images come out soft and all eyes in the images turn out white.(Someone reported that removing the back cover makes the images shaper, Its true, try it.
The extra layer of software by LG on top of the vanilla causes this problem.
Great hardware and AWFUL LG software.
The dual core is useless, Multitasking takes longer than the HTC phones. the widgets are awful, there is not facebook integration like some HTC phones so u end up with duplicate contacts and have to merge them manually.
PLS THINK B4 YOU BUY I AM RETURNING MINE.
NEXT .....SAMSUNG GALAXY S2.
Try another launcher
Before returning your device, I suggest you try another launcher program. Launcherpro Plus works like a dream on my 2X.
Not to make excuses for them but I didn't expect much from LG, software-wise; they're new to this. It takes time for a company to get their software right -- a good case in point is HTC with Sense. Their first Sense implementation (back during their WinMo days) was laggy and buggy but after years, they've gotten to the point where their UI is actually ported by custom ROM makers to non-HTC handsets. Touchwiz has also gotten better (although I jettisoned it from my Galaxy S) but Motorola, which is still relatively new to the "skinning" paradigm still needs work on their Blur interface.
On top of that, the LG widgets actually work pretty well on LP-Pro, so you don't lose the use of the nice weather and clock widget as well as the calendar/agenda widget.
Also, while I too am interested in the Galaxy SII, after handling a prototype and comparing it side-by-side with my 2X, I think I'll still with the 2X -- the build quality is just so much better; Samsung can't escape their plastic-y phone design philosophy. To be fair, the GSII is a lot classier-looking than the original GS but neither is close to the 2X.
It's a shame really -- plenty of Samsung products are seeing great improvements in their design.
Besides, with a resource like XDA-Dev, it's only a matter of time before a truly excellent custom ROM enters the scene.
viniturb0 said:
Hi,
i just got this phone and i was really excited but then it all went wrong
Unlock screen is choppy
I found the menu preview is so choppy
Sliding to the next screen is choppy
The camera loads after ages and takes photos ages after u click the camera button
The camera is no good all images come out soft and all eyes in the images turn out white.(Someone reported that removing the back cover makes the images shaper, Its true, try it.
The extra layer of software by LG on top of the vanilla causes this problem.
Great hardware and AWFUL LG software.
The dual core is useless, Multitasking takes longer than the HTC phones. the widgets are awful, there is not facebook integration like some HTC phones so u end up with duplicate contacts and have to merge them manually.
PLS THINK B4 YOU BUY I AM RETURNING MINE.
NEXT .....SAMSUNG GALAXY S2.
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My response is BUY THIS PHONE, IT IS THE BEST PHONE AVAILABLE IN THE UK.
It is NOT choppy at all.
The camera loads FAST.
Photos turn out GREAT.
And wtf, this is much faster than HTC phones.
I think you got a dud mate.
jpbl1976 said:
Before returning your device, I suggest you try another launcher program. Launcherpro Plus works like a dream on my 2X.
Not to make excuses for them but I didn't expect much from LG, software-wise; they're new to this. It takes time for a company to get their software right -- a good case in point is HTC with Sense. Their first Sense implementation (back during their WinMo days) was laggy and buggy but after years, they've gotten to the point where their UI is actually ported by custom ROM makers to non-HTC handsets. Touchwiz has also gotten better (although I jettisoned it from my Galaxy S) but Motorola, which is still relatively new to the "skinning" paradigm still needs work on their Blur interface.
On top of that, the LG widgets actually work pretty well on LP-Pro, so you don't lose the use of the nice weather and clock widget as well as the calendar/agenda widget.
Also, while I too am interested in the Galaxy SII, after handling a prototype and comparing it side-by-side with my 2X, I think I'll still with the 2X -- the build quality is just so much better; Samsung can't escape their plastic-y phone design philosophy. To be fair, the GSII is a lot classier-looking than the original GS but neither is close to the 2X.
It's a shame really -- plenty of Samsung products are seeing great improvements in their design.
Besides, with a resource like XDA-Dev, it's only a matter of time before a truly excellent custom ROM enters the scene.
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Thank you, Launcher pro really rocks its wierd i was just paying LP when i read your message. I miss the mail widget otherwise the LP totally rocks
If you are so negative about it "mr i yell on caps cuz im cool " why even bother trolling here, i mean seriously.. if u even bothered to read any topic here there are lots of fixes which make a good phone a phantastic phone.. i have had 4 htc's before this and a se xperia and i can say this is the shizzle so meh take ur negative additude with ye and please join the samsung fanboi page plox...
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le3ky said:
My response is BUY THIS PHONE, IT IS THE BEST PHONE AVAILABLE IN THE UK.
It is NOT choppy at all.
The camera loads FAST.
Photos turn out GREAT.
And wtf, this is much faster than HTC phones.
I think you got a dud mate.
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Seriously dude? I dont think i got a dud with no disrespect but my friends phone is also choppy like mine, Try Launcher pro and then try the preview screens, u can adjust their speed and they load super fast. LG shoudnt have skinned their phones, dunno it just makes it the experience annoying.
dazzle999 said:
If you are so negative about it "mr i yell on caps cuz im cool " why even bother trolling here, i mean seriously.. if u even bothered to read any topic here there are lots of fixes which make a good phone a phantastic phone.. i have had 4 htc's before this and a se xperia and i can say this is the shizzle so meh take ur negative additude with ye and please join the samsung fanboi page plox...
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hey buddy thank you for your message but im not tryng to be nagative, i just like things to work, wouldnt you be annoyed if u paid £449 and got something that didnt work like you expected it to? im not expecting it to take me to the moon n back but even small things like being able to refresh all your combined mails accounts u cant do u have to do them individually, and to top it the fact that its a dual core and performs like a 201MHZ phone, YES, WTF indeed!
viniturb0 said:
hey buddy thank you for your message but im not tryng to be nagative, i just like things to work, wouldnt you be annoyed if u paid £449 and got something that didnt work like you expected it to? im not expecting it to take me to the moon n back but even small things like being able to refresh all your combined mails accounts u cant do u have to do them individually, and to top it the fact that its a dual core and performs like a 201MHZ phone, YES, WTF indeed!
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Hey pall..
Go to the dev section, install clockwork, boot up a custom rom problems solved U will go to the moon and back.. or if thats too much trouble install launcher pro and a alternate email program of your choice if you are too dumb to find the settings/read this forum to find where the settings are.... kgo! Also the picture quality is boosted alot by changing certain settings, again these are found by reading.. have fun and good luck ..
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yes, unlock screen is choppy,
but app menu is definitely as smooth as butter,
homescreen become smooth after I remove the weather widget and replaced it with a better looking widget
so if u are saying that your app menu is choppy, something must have seriously goes wrong.
akira de aimbuster said:
yes, unlock screen is choppy,
but app menu is definitely as smooth as butter,
homescreen become smooth after I remove the weather widget and replaced it with a better looking widget
so if u are saying that your app menu is choppy, something must have seriously goes wrong.
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Yes right the unlock screen is choppy previews are choppy the app menus are fast.
im using launcher pro and you wont believe the speed now its awesome.
please try launcher pro and change speed setting to 8 and 9.
thank you for your reply to my post i appreciate it
I use spb no lag i have a lot of apps installed and the phone is very fast.
I had galaxy s and desire hd and i can say you that lg2x is more more fast than htc and samsung.
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don't expect samsung's software would be any different. their touckwiz is as unpolished as LG's UI, heck might be even worse.
that's why i salute t-mobile by putting a stock android on the upcoming G2X. instead of the lg's UI.
Just use Launcher pro and everything willl be super blazing fast.
Let's just wish LG would do a better job on the 2.3 fw update.

Is it a good idea to buy HTC Incredible S instead of HTC Desire?

Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.
Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Can you root it and put a custom ROM? If so, does the guide exist?
if you searched further than your nose long is, u had the answer on that
Really depends on what you want to do with the phone. The screen display is a lot better than desire. If you just wanna a phone to use, IS is the choice. If you are a fun of installing custom ROMs, desire is probably a better choice. As far as I know, software rooting is not available yet for IS.
if you are comparing stock to stock...
the major advantage of having an IS is the internal memory... on a fresh stock rom...
Desire would have around 147MB for you to use for all your apps.. and you have to spare 30MB for OTA updates purpose...
if you have IS you have 1.07GB on a fresh rom... so many apps you can install without any worries
I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
Dual cores
_Flea_ said:
I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
RobinRichard said:
Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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At first I was looking at a dual core as well.
But after all I thought: what is the real benefit at the moment?
I mean, I don't call that much a month, use internet a lot, play some simple games, listen to music and that's it.
My Desire could handle all those things very good.
I must say that I'm very happy with my IS and I'm glad I didn't wait for a dual core.
Bear in mind the Desire has some issues with multi-touch, and battery life isn't particularly good. It is readily rootable however, while some variants of the Incredible S are not.
My friend had a Desire nd i have an IS ... Go for the IS no doubt.. so fat the issues i ve seen in multi touch . battery life, screen , speed ( cause of RAM ) .. IS wins hands down

Do you really wan't cyanogenmod on your HTC Vivid?

An HTC without sense is like a ZR-1 with a 4cyl engine...
Now before you go and start screaming HOW DARE YOU!!!, relax,
and think for a moment, Why did you buy the VIVId ?
was you thinking how CM would run on it or you liked the style that sense offers?
I personally love the looks and widgets that sense offers and I thick CM Or aOSP lack many features.
Do you like the Zr-1 with all the works or you want the Lotus elise without even AC?
now Scream>>>>>>!!!!!
Because some people like the style and the features of the Vivid. And a lot of people like a CM over sense, but still like sense in general (like me.) And having cm would open up the door for aosp roms, miui, etc. I didn't buy my sgs2 plainly for touchwiz, I bought it because of the great potential in this device, and the vivid (pretty much every HTC phone) has a lot of potential.
And I'd take the Lotus, I don't drive American cars.... just my opinion
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See your point, it comes down to your personal taste.
I think the Samsung wiz is not a ll that different from aosp and looks too much like the fruit company. And I really hate the fruit company because of that "we are the best don't even try to change it you pay me to loan you the item " attitude.
and I still think that even being American, the ZR1 will eat the lotus.... jejeje..
I have a vivid (velocity) because work issued me with one... It is the first 4G phone for Australia and we wanted to test it for work (Hell, at least I'm not the guy who had to get an iphone) I cannot wait for CM or AOSP, imho, sense is clunky and it feels old compated to cm and miui, this phone feels slower than my htc hd2, even basic features that ADW and launcherpro have had for ages, changing the grid size, adjusting widget sizes, more robust toggles in the status tray... it feels to me that HTC are going in the wrong direction with sense.
carlosjcar said:
An HTC without sense is like a ZR-1 with a 4cyl engine...
Now before you go and start screaming HOW DARE YOU!!!, relax,
and think for a moment, Why did you buy the VIVId ?
was you thinking how CM would run on it or you liked the style that sense offers?
I personally love the looks and widgets that sense offers and I thick CM Or aOSP lack many features.
Do you like the Zr-1 with all the works or you want the Lotus elise without even AC?
now Scream>>>>>>!!!!!
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That´s awesome that you started a post to make an irrelevant comparison ROMS and cars. But let me do you a favor and make it relevant again.
I bought a Vivid because it has what I was looking for with hardware, the software can be upgraded as I see fit. Would you ever mod the exhaust or intake or headers or anything on your Elise without altering the car´s computer configuration? I certainly hope not.
As someone mentioned earlier, it´s about personal preference. Some people might want the Elise because of what it comes with stock, some people will buy it for what it CAN be with the proper tuning. So enjoy sense as long as you want it, I will endure it as long as I have to.
And a quick FYI, AC units weigh a hell of a lot, so it´s usually part of the stage 3 weight reduction kits for cars.
carlosjcar said:
and I still think that even being American, the ZR1 will eat the lotus.... jejeje..
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It would definitely
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I get the fact that some people <3 sense forever.
But If I could get a ZR-1 that could switch off 4 -cylinders (change roms) and run without the sense-v8, like a modern HEMI, for when I want to save fuel(battery) and I'm in bumper to bumper email territory, that would provide the most appealing from both worlds.
I'd like to have the choice either way. Loved Sense 2; Sense 3 was fine, Sense 3.5 looks a bit like a "meh" revision of 3. Want to see Sense 4 before I decide whether or not to keep it.
I liked having CM on my Galaxy S, but I like Sense more than AOSP Gingerbread.
carlosjcar said:
and I still think that even being American, the ZR1 will eat the lotus.... jejeje..
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ZR1's a pile of poo. Car's made out of plastic, rear-wheel-drive and an inefficient shouty V8. Consider the Lotus Elise, comes remarkably close in performance since it can actually take a corner, and runs on a 1.8L Toyota engine to boot. Looks a damn sight nicer too, and costs half as much.
If I had the money to burn on a ZR1, I'd go for a far more elegant version of its package: Mercedes Benz's C63 AMG Black coupe, for slightly less money to boot.
But, since I'm a sane and normal man, I'd rather get the Audi RS5 or the Audi R8 V10 Spyder. I'd rather drive an Impreza WRX STi than the Vette, to be honest.
Yes, I'm an American too.
Aus_Azn said:
I'd like to have the choice either way. Loved Sense 2; Sense 3 was fine, Sense 3.5 looks a bit like a "meh" revision of 3. Want to see Sense 4 before I decide whether or not to keep it.
I liked having CM on my Galaxy S, but I like Sense more than AOSP Gingerbread.
ZR1's a pile of poo. Car's made out of plastic, rear-wheel-drive and an inefficient shouty V8. Consider the Lotus Elise, comes remarkably close in performance since it can actually take a corner, and runs on a 1.8L Toyota engine to boot. Looks a damn sight nicer too, and costs half as much.
If I had the money to burn on a ZR1, I'd go for a far more elegant version of its package: Mercedes Benz's C63 AMG Black coupe, for slightly less money to boot
But, since I'm a sane and normal man, I'd rather get the Audi RS5 or the Audi R8 V10 Spyder. I'd rather drive an Impreza WRX STi than the Vette, to be honest.
Yes, I'm an American too.
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I'd drive an s2000. 230+ horsepower from an i4 + rwd + light as hell = fun
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Honestly for screen beauty, and build quality.... And yes i want cm for the sheer speed and i want ics. Sense has some nice feauturss... And i would take it over touchwiz any day, but I'm afraid it bloats and slows more than that sweetness is worth to me.
And if i want features gimme MIUI. I'd take that over any manufacturers skin any day
trell959 said:
I'd drive an s2000. 230+ horsepower from an i4 + rwd + light as hell = fun
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I drive an A5 myself, so I already classify myself as "enjoying life". I can't personally warrant blowing upwards of $60k on a car.
Can anyone give me a good reason why i shouldnt lock this thread?
nuke it from orbit
I don't understand why anyone would want miui. If I want my phone to look like an iphone ill buy one (cold day in hell).
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
I don't understand why anyone would want miui. If I want my phone to look like an iphone ill buy one (cold day in hell).
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Have you ever tried it out? It's really quite interesting... Not as bad as I thought it might be. I remember giving people crap for using that iOS look a like. But once I actually tried it out it wasn't half bad. Of course, I ended up reverting back to sense, but it was cool to try it out for a little while.
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I used miui because it was really polished, and very quick, there are plenty of themes that look nothing like iphone (like a theme that makes your whole phone look like a borderlands computer, complete with holograms and rusty corregated iron, that was my favorite)
It is just really nice, everything is easy and logical, and yet you still have access to all of the awesome android apps
Music player was great, could retreive lyrics and art, built in popups for sms messages and quick replies, a logically arranged settings menu, built in firewall, built in data counter, no app drawer to deal with which I liked, persistant app row on the bottom of the app screen good for 4 to 7 apps to be anchored there, hold down home and it shows you running apps, hold down the back key and it kills any app thats crashed... it is a totally sweet system, well worth looking at not just passing it off as an iphone clone.
Also... some people really like the iphone look (I like the interface, its well made) but want the flexability and open access of a rooted android, and thats what you get with MIUI, its not for everyone, but it deffinetely appeals to me
shogunmark said:
Can anyone give me a good reason why i shouldnt lock this thread?
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There is some decent discussion, but its mostly off topic from a trolling post.. No offense to actual contributors, but im locking this. Reading through the first few posts of this thread make my head hurt..

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