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Currently Using Fresh(awesome rom), IYO what's the best stock Android to try?

Currently Using Fresh(awesome rom), IYO what's the best stock Android to try?
I, as a Sprint Tech, am a picky picky SOB when it comes to customizing my phones. I have tried a ton of different ROMS on my Hero since employees cannot upgrade to EVO's, so I've flung myself deep into playing with the cool stuff you guys have here.
Love stock Android, EVEN Love Stock Sense UI. So naturally I have Fresh.
Not really into overclocking, and JIT is a no no as it breaks the Doggcatcher Podcast App. But I do underclock so that my battery last the typical 45-50 hours I currently get out of it using the overclock widget.
Sprint VVM is a must(which I have the apk for just in case, as is the stock HTC weather/clock app. Definately use google's nav/maps app and Places, but the rest of googles built in apps are crap (goggles/gtalk/etc).
I don't theme but I have a stock plain black wallpaper (pitch black no designs or anything) and I do like the HTC sense black taskbar with normal white font and I always patch in that cool HTC Desire battery indicator with the color changing circle and percentage inside...I know...I'm picky, LOL. I'd probably have to find a modded black taskbar to get rid of the ugly gray one that comes with stock Vanilla Android, but what can I say, I like simply black and black themes usually add to much extra stuff I can do without.
So...any suggestions??
Yes, I'm hard to put up with as far as this stuff goes, but I know what I want, and being that I'm one step away from creating my own darn ROM at this point because as great as the work is done by you guys already, I find it hard to grab one or two of everyone's stuff and not end up messing up something else...
LOL hey, it's hard being a tech for 16 years in this business and not want complete control over things, haha, plus, I don't mind the challenge, it's what I live for.
Thanks in advance and hey, if my lofty goals are too high, be blunt, be honest, tell me to make my own ROM, whatever, I'm all ears.
Thanks again.

Well im not sure if this is a stock rom..i think it is tho.
But im using FRESH TOAST 2.1 with Darchshizz #4 kernel.
Works great..and i have had no problems what so ever so far. althought FRESH 2.3.3 is an amazing ROM also.

Try Nfinite's stock deodexed rom, it is literally stock but deodexed so you can do whatever you like to it. He also provides zips to 2 circular battery icons in the Zenherofx thread which I love. BTW, fresh toast is an overclock dev rom that isn't nearly as stable as any of these.
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oops should have clarified, wanting stock vanilla android (like Nexus One or as close to) for Hero, I have stock Sense UI with the latest Fresh, isn't Nfinite's also sense UI or are the screenshots I'm seeing incorrect? Looks Like sense but I may be viewing the wrong ones.
Thanks for the input.

Lol I though you meant you did want Sense (stock), in that case, you should try out Darchdroid or sCrOm, Darch is super fast and stable and sCrOm is also aosp but has several built-in theme choices. Check these out in the Android Development section.
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TheNexxuvas said:
Currently Using Fresh(awesome rom), IYO what's the best stock Android to try?
I, as a Sprint Tech, am a picky picky SOB when it comes to customizing my phones.
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how ironic!

I know right, meh, I likes what I likes. I do a lot of ROM hopping, so think the best of both worlds at a pretty much even ground 0 with not much flair is kinda cool.
Oh cool note, I took apart an Epic 4G 2 months ago, that screen is Sharp as a tack. Wish I could port that bad boy into an EVO, not that the EVO screen is bad either but if the connections from Samsung on both screens were the same (Where HTC was getting their screens from until they had to switch over to Sony to keep up with the demand) and the size was 4.3 (think Samsung EPIC's at 4 straight) it would be a cool Mod to do. Then again, not sure if the board has the right drivers from the hummingbird chip versus the Qualcomm Snapdragon to properly run it but that'd be a fun DIY'er if the sizes were matched.

Do you think IOS5 will be an overhaul?

With Android getter bigger and better seemingly by the minute and WP7's fancy interface it seems like IOS is old news, WWDC starts June 6, do you think they will unveil IOS5 there? And what do you think will be the improvements? Minor or Major?
I think Apple has the hardware already and its only gonna get better but the OS is starting to kinda age a bit, it just dosnt seem as fresh as it once was.
Im gonna keep my eye on what Apple and MS have in store as one of those will be my next choice.

Yeah im sure apple has to have something awesome up their sleeve because android is killing them( sorta). Im excited to see what they well bring as well.
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I bet ios 5 will have some pretty big changes, if not they'll just get left further behind. I'll find out soon at wwdc though.

It looks like there going to copy something from android.

I am really interested what they would copy then since all 3 OS systems are based already on each others succeses . Better to copy good then badly develope.
If it's going to be something entirely new its going to be aimed at the general public since Apples OS isnt really tweaker friendly, thats the category where Andoid is strong.

No i dont think so. Knowing apple, they don't mess up with their models or.system.too much
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They need to revamp their notification system.
Lack of push notifications is one thing I can't stand about iOS (UI wise)
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I have to agree with the posts above. I think they will revamp the whole OS. Android is getting better and better. They are going to have to do something to keep current.

IOS5
I bet it looks a lot like android lol

they are going to get stuff from android and call it a "revolution"
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The rumo(u)rs (for you brits) says that iOS5 will get better notification system and widgets. Just a rumo(u)r though.
But we all know that Apple always have a plan. Nothing they do is by coincidence.
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I hope they overhaul the interface and incorporate a few features from Android, such as a notification bar and widgets.

Also think nothing is to worry them there cult following is around tthis earth

mm android is not bad, im more like ios user lol

Here's my opinion. They have a fine line to walk. On the one hand, they can't (or won't) change too much, lest they risk alienating their "regular consumer" user base. There are things that previous posters mentioned, like better push notifications, some limitations that some Google apps have.... But they will have to something as Android is becoming very popular. You can tell Steve Jobs doesn't like it either because in one of their last earnings calls He lambasted Android and that's a cardinal rule of business, never mention the competition, especially by name. On the other they really should do something, I mean 3.5 inch screen in 2011? Really!?!!?
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One things for sure............
It will change everything..... again
tbh........ who cares what they do....
Its still gonna require you to surrender yourself to the apple way of doing things and no matter what they do the masses are going to lap it up....
Why?
Because its cool
Its got a little i at the front of the name............
And you get stickers with it
HTC never gave me stickers.....
Thats it.... petition time......
Dear HTC,
Wheres my F*****g stickers????
We dont care about locked bootloaders. We want free stickers with every product...
WHEN DO WE WANT THEM??
NAO!!!!

conantroutman said:
One things for sure............
It will change everything..... again
tbh........ who cares what they do....
Its still gonna require you to surrender yourself to the apple way of doing things and no matter what they do the masses are going to lap it up....
Why?
Because its cool
Its got a little i at the front of the name............
And you get stickers with it
HTC never gave me stickers.....
Thats it.... petition time......
Dear HTC,
Wheres my F*****g stickers????
We dont care about locked bootloaders. We want free stickers with every product...
WHEN DO WE WANT THEM??
NAO!!!!
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I want unlocked bootloaders AND stickers!
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Typical woman..... you always want too much.....
/me runs away.......

One things for sure, everyone will buy it despite what changes they've done. Except for most of the people here.
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conantroutman said:
Typical woman..... you always want too much.....
/me runs away.......
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I haz a brick and good aim!
And I STILL want unlocked bootloaders AND stickers!
Sent from my N1, running CM7 and IntersectRaven's latest kernel. (AVS)

Lg Optimus 2x or iPhone 4 16GB?

Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )

Avfcman said:
Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )
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Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.

eraldo said:
Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.
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Well i have had a iPod Touch 3RD Gen, it was always Jailbroken, though am looking a change from the usual "Oh Look at this thing, its amazing, even though Android has already had it" But i do like how everything just works.
Though, having something that runs android would give me a change to mess around with things and tinker, which i like to do
Just need to make a decision before the 11th

The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .

nk7600 said:
The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .
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Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it

Avfcman said:
Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it
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You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
Edit: how did it post twice wtf bug in xda premium app?
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eraldo said:
You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
Plus we have both flash and html5 support apple rejecting flash had nothing to do with performance issues it was to do with itunes and other crap that's why i HATE apple and won't ever buy an apple product.
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The reason why i didnt even bothered with the iphone 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

Hi,
There is a pretty nice comparision of the 2x and the Ione on youtube... When i remember correctly it is from androidcentral ... Have a look at it, mightbe interesting for you.
Regards
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man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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jefbeck said:
man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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Yeah, I'd personally go for an O2X too. But seeing that the other option is an IP4, I'd take the O2X hands down. The IP4 is going to get old real fast once the IP5 is released Q2 to Q3 this year.
While the O2X is scheduled for ICS Q2 of this year. (give or take 2 quarters) lol.
If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.

I have a optimus 2x. Bought it some days ago. By use its amazing. I accept that its software has some glitches but who has not? And moreover when you get a good hardware you should not really worry of software, as you will get it , its a open source.
I like apple as a media source. You told you have a ipod touch. I think its more than enuf from apple. You can enjoy there OS there touch feel and the apps. But apple doesnt allow you to do much customizations. It doesnt five yoi the degree of freedom android gives. So i would siggest you. Go for optimus 2x rather than Iphone 4 because you already have a iox device ipodtouch.
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Hello!
It is always about your needs...
But I see one big problem with the iPhone 4 16GB – your stuck with these 16GB and from my personnel experience this isn’t really much. I ordered a 32GB SDHC the moment I ordered my LG P990 and it is almost full including the build in 8GB… I actually very tempted to try one of the 64GB SDXD cards available – will order one and try it when the prices come down little more.
And compared to an iPhone 4 the LG P990 should be faster – I have seen some tests on youtube – but don’t have a link handy right now – and these tests where actually with the stock browser on stock rom…and custom roms are even a lot faster.
The rest is about taste…
IMHO Android is more versatile and I like the UI concept more, but this is purely dependent on what you like.
My tip go to some store where you can actually touch the phone and play around with it a little – even though the LG P990 is on stock not as fast ass it could be, but you get a basic idea of the look and feel.
I made this comparison between iPhone 4, SG2, HTC Sensation and LG P990…now guess which phone won…

salisbury_steak said:
If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.
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much smaller, and little bit better

Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.

eraldo said:
Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
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Yes, your are most probably right and that is why we should try to do better here - especially since many people around here will know the look and feel of the iPhone 4 too...
And as I wrote I personally like the UI concept of android more and he should try both before making that decision.
Speedwise the Optimus 2x should be a little faster – but not that much since I must admit the software of the iPhone is usually over all a little bit better optimized.
But IMHO the biggest con against any iPhone and also to the most recent Google phone is the lack of an SD-card slot – this is/would be a absolute no go for me…

if IP4 would had 4" screen i wouldnt even thinking.

Thanks everyone for the feedback, I think I might give it a chance, though i will have to order it from Amazon UK as there are no phone stores around my town that stock O2x's.
I also didn't post on an apple section as I know what the replys would be to buy the iPhone as 50%-70% of apple owners only buy apple products as they Have the fruit logo and defend it.
Just another thing to touch on, if I did get the O2x i wouldn't root it for approx. 6-8months in-case an issue would occur and therefore i would be able to use warranty. What is the Stock rom like? And is it Usable?
Rooting:
I would assume rooting is a bit like jail-breaking, just run a program and its done?
and flashing roms, you just put them on an SD card and flash using clockworkrecovery?
Thanks again

i will say buying an iPhone4 is just an action of ifanboy

Rooting is not difficult, just as easy as jailbreaking the iOS devices. I sold my iPod touch 4th gen a few months ago and I know the differences between these products.
First of all, I want to remark that the optimus 2x still has a lot of issues. Random reboots, sleep of deaths, charging BSODs, memory leaking. These are very common issues which I experienced myself. Especially if you use the stock LG rom, make sure you remember this.
Most probably you won't void your warranty if you flash custom roms because you will be able to flash back to stock LG rom with kdz/smartflash methods.
If you are looking for a stable phone I honestly would not recommend the O2X at this moment. It is a nice phone with current CM7-kangs or modded kernel/modded stock rom, but the LG roms are real crap imo and you may still have problems even with xda roms.
Samsung for example has much better stock roms. You might look for the Galaxy R for example which looks great to me.
Nevertheless the o2x is really cheap for a dualcore phone with decent IPS screen. Real bang for the bucks. It's so much faster than my previous iPod Touch 4th gen. (Same processor as iPhone 4)
If you have no problems with claiming warranty if you have issues amd if you dont care to flash custom roms, the o2x could be a good choice.
(Sorry for language mistakes, my native language is Dutch)
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And on the seventh day God created HTC Sense...

And just how happy were the Samsung people? Click here...
I can get the devs "sense" of achievement but the hundreds of followers comments of yipeeeeeee, and awesome... etc etc etc ... Why not just buy an HTC?
I am near the end of my 3 month trial of a Nexus S and it has lasted pricisely 2 weeks, its up for sale. I just do not like it. Its featureless and slow. My Desire HD -using rcmix runny- is so much smoother and quicker to the touch I just don't get how they done so well. On Saturdy, else before, I will pickup my Evo 3d dual core and go again -after 4 years- with htc. At $330 (£229 in Asda UK), I just can't say no.
I know there are lots of fans out there for Samsung, but what do you like about it?
Me on Nexus S. Buttons, wkd for reboots to recovery when had to rip battery out. Nice and easy. Like the longer thinner screen too. And Amoled is very good. That is it.

I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.

DirkGently said:
I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. MIUI -for me- is boring, too much concentration on being an iphone rather than itself. I used to use first MIUI roms when it took weeks to get a translation out of Shen. It might be time to try it again.
I am one of the ones that strips Sense immediately. The point was that my HD runs faster and smoother with sense that the NS runs without it at all. I tried many roms and the lag is terrible, as was the stock rom. Now performance with the Oxygen or absolution roms... That is special. I just think the build quality is better. I guess I am disappointed with no singing OR dancing.
Orb3000, if you are around please explain what it is about HTC that we love so much.

spikey68 said:
Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. .
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?

m1l4droid said:
Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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Not sure dude. I think that Samsung were cute using the Tegra 2 for those models and you will see a big swing this year when htc have the t3 inside. In bothe phone and tablet. The actual feel of an htc in your hand is much better i reckon. The nexus s and sg2 seem plasticy.
I have the cm9 kali ics on now.It is the only one of all the ICS's I can install and not spend 1hr putting things right on. its ok, but nothing like as quick as my DHD with sense on and loaded with apps, but that's on GB.
Ah well. I'm not sure what I expected from it really. The fact that i do mess with my own roms and knew what I would makes me the stupid one. If ur happy ur happy. I just wanted something different.

and the lord saw that it was a bloated resource hogging abomination and cast it into the lake of fire...
MacaronyMax said:
lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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Im one of those people that stripped sense out as much as possible. Last years HTC phones were a disappointmet, I can't stand those 16:9 dimensions. Hopefully this year they make a decent phone with a 4:5 and 4.5" screen. Until then it'll be Samsungs.

m1l4droid said:
Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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I have to totally disagree with you there old bean
Sense is lovely, it's so smooth and logical. I find it usable where as I find plain android horrible so would never have a nexus.
As for hardware, yes the SGS II screen is nice, but the phone feels really cheap and brittle to me, I'd be worried about sitting down and snapping it. I don't have such issues with the sensation and prefer the higher resolution screen.
It's one of the huge advantages Android has over other phone OSs, there's so much variety and customisation available pretty much everyone's desires can be met.

CyanogenMod for Note 4

Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?

Sure 9 Sundays from now. Or was 5 Fridays not count every other one .. Time will tell..

No, nobody knows.

legacy3566 said:
Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?
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Two weeks.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?

chong67 said:
How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?
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Cyanogen/AOSP is pure android without all the unnecessary graphics, designs and bloat from Samsung.
Minimal design = stronger processor strength.
Plus, pure stock Android is just better.

XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?

suzook said:
XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?
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I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?

Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.

dkb218 said:
Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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Because Note devices have the top of the line and updated processors. In other words, fastest/strongest processors on the market at the time of release.
You will never see the full capacity of this processor until you're on Pure Android.
And that's what I love. This beastly processor on bare Android.
Perfection.

chong67 said:
I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?
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To get rid of the icon badges, disable BadgeProvider (in Application Manager).

I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom line, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
dkb218 said:
Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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iunlock said:
I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
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5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.

The whole 5.0 thing is making me a little nervous. But then again didn't we have this scare before? I don't know....darn Google....
devynbf said:
5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.
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Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
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You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
DieHappy said:
Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app
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iunlock said:
You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
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I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
That rom supports it

the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..

bambam126 said:
I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
That rom supports it
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WiFi Tether Router, from the playstore works flawlessly.
I use it daily.
FireKatv3 is insane...
I've mentioned in another post where I would much rather use a 3rd party tethering app over a baked in one any day. More setting options....therefore, with me even if a ROM had it baked in, I wouldn't be using it anyway.
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wase4711 said:
the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..
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Yes it'll be screaming fast, no denying that. But unlike before where there was a huge gap between asop roms vs stock tw....from my crazy smooth experience so far with the newly refined TW (thanks to FireKatv3), that gap has closed a lot.
It's nice to finally be able to go fast and in luxury without sacrificing luxury for performance like before.
Most people buy the note for the note experience to enjoy the luxury that it offers while being equipped with a v12 monster.
IMO, Why buy a Bentley just to strip it of its luxury? Why not just downgrade and buy a Nexus 6? Answer? Because even in this scenerio the N4 is still better. Fair enough.
A stripped down Bently (asop) is obviously going to be faster than the one (stock) still having its hand stitched leather seats that does weigh a ton. But, thanks to a highly refined ROM like FireKatv3, that v12 beast is tuned to provide more power to balance out the power to weight ratio, while still being naturally aspirated. That's impressive.
All credit to Mega (the dev) of FireKatv3, but I'm pretty darn happy about my experience so far running on stock kernel and hitting 50k+. Now regardless of any opinions on benchmarks and real world experience, the fact remains that my real world experience is more than enough to justify my 50k+ bench score.
I've yet to see any other ROM do that.
So I'll see yall asop'ers at the drag strip and give you a run for the money. It'll be good fun. [emoji106]