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If I were to get the VZW Nexus One, would I be able to flash any ROMs for the T-Mo Nexus One? Themes, apps, ROMs, etc.?
Doubt it..
:'( Man, since everyone is so hyped over this Nexus, I doubt anyone will ever make a ROM for the Verizon one.
I'm sure there will be a fairly standard process to port these ROMs to the VZW N1... but then again, I'm not a dev.
Are there any super geniuses out there that know if it will work or not?
Without looking at the android source tree. I would assume that calling the radio interface is the same between devices. The radio image itself will be drastically different, but the OS itself will not see that complexity due to calling the radio through standard API's.
Think of it this way, when you call a friend through a landline using a regular phone. Does your regular phone care who your provider is? It just translates your button pushes to sounds and transmits it via a well established standard. The interaction between rom's and the radio are more than likely very similar.
Devastatin said:
Without looking at the android source tree. I would assume that calling the radio interface is the same between devices. The radio image itself will be drastically different, but the OS itself will not see that complexity due to calling the radio through standard API's.
Think of it this way, when you call a friend through a landline using a regular phone. Does your regular phone care who your provider is? It just translates your button pushes to sounds and transmits it via a well established standard. The interaction between rom's and the radio are more than likely very similar.
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^This.
Considering that this will be the newest CDMA Android device released in the US, I'd guess that it's going to have the most updated radio out (at least for a while). The SPL, Recovery and such should be pretty much identical I would think. While it may not be possible to just take Cyanogen's ROM and flash it as it currently exists, the necessary changes SHOULD be pretty minor.
The better question is this...
how many people are going to not pay attention when a new radio image is released and flash it to the wrong device
it is possible.
But the devs are mostly gsm. CDMA is too limited with device releases.
Gsm is more flexible so the dev support for gsm is always going to be greater.
May take months for a port to happen.
I believe the droid just recently got their cyanogen mod port after like 8 months of release.
always bet on gsm cdma is too limited.
I used a Rogers Magic for a long time. Each time Cyanogen released an update, there were 2-3 devs that patched it and ported to the Magic for Rogers and also for the MyTouch. Each phone required different things but there will be devs that will handle it on here, just about guaranteed.
As long as I can have the ROM fast, I'll get the Nexus.
So are you guys saying 1 week, or a year?
awtryau89 said:
I used a Rogers Magic for a long time. Each time Cyanogen released an update, there were 2-3 devs that patched it and ported to the Magic for Rogers and also for the MyTouch. Each phone required different things but there will be devs that will handle it on here, just about guaranteed.
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Rogers is GSM though, not CDMA.
GNOve said:
it is possible.
But the devs are mostly gsm. CDMA is too limited with device releases.
Gsm is more flexible so the dev support for gsm is always going to be greater.
May take months for a port to happen.
I believe the droid just recently got their cyanogen mod port after like 8 months of release.
always bet on gsm cdma is too limited.
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The Droid and Nexus One are totally different devices. The UMTS and CDMA Nexus One should be identical save for the radio and associated hardware.
EDIT: Not quite. The UMTS model uses the QSD8250 Snapdragon, which only supports GSM/UMTS. The CDMA model will likely use the QSD8650, which also has CDMA support (in addition to GSM/UMTS, which adds the possibility of the CDMA model being a world phone) but is otherwise the same.
I mean, they are basically the same phone.
So, are we saying that it is undecided if all the ROMs will work or not? Or do we know that they won't/will?
Thanks
I have heard mixed opinions on this matter and I am very curious to hear from someone who knows for certain the process that needs to take place for CM to run on the VZW N1 when it is available.
Funny that nobody mentions the kernel, which could very well be different for the GSM N1 and the CDMA N1. The radio is the obvious factor, it is the other factors that may be the issue.
Hoping a knowledgeable dev will chime in with a solid answer!
Hey I have a Sprint TP2 and can use SIM cards or CDMA service (currently using), I already did the HardSPL for it but I dont know which ROMs to flash it with... I like the way the Energy ROM looks from screenshots but also want something fast...
What ROMs can I use on my phone?
This forum is for GSM ROMs, there's a separate sub-forum for CDMA ROMs. But better would be ppcgeeks.com, which tends to have a lot more CDMA ROMs than over here (including links to NRG's ROMs).
So I´m kind of confused, if the phone it is both gsm (simcard able) and also supports cdma, what kind of rom will it support? gsm only? cdma only? or both depending on wether I´m using it with a gsm carrier or a cdma carrier? If somebody could answer it´d make my day as there´s a guy selling me a touch pro 2 that´s able to support both gsm and cdma but I´d like to know how far can I go about flashing stuff to it, as I´m currently a happy htc kaiser/tilt owner and would like to "flash the nand out of it" lol and even throw in android to the mix (as i´m currently running froyo on my old kaiser).
elander said:
So I´m kind of confused, if the phone it is both gsm (simcard able) and also supports cdma, what kind of rom will it support? gsm only? cdma only? or both depending on wether I´m using it with a gsm carrier or a cdma carrier? If somebody could answer it´d make my day as there´s a guy selling me a touch pro 2 that´s able to support both gsm and cdma but I´d like to know how far can I go about flashing stuff to it, as I´m currently a happy htc kaiser/tilt owner and would like to "flash the nand out of it" lol and even throw in android to the mix (as i´m currently running froyo on my old kaiser).
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If you phone is both CDMA and GSM (Sprint or Verizon), then you need the CDMA ROMs.
Also make sure you use the CDMA HardSPL and CDMA radios. If you flash a GSM radio to a CDMA phone (even if you're using it on a GSM network with a SIM card), you *will* permanently brick it.
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If you phone is both CDMA and GSM (Sprint or Verizon), then you need the CDMA ROMs.
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steviewevie said:
Also make sure you use the CDMA HardSPL and CDMA radios. If you flash a GSM radio to a CDMA phone (even if you're using it on a GSM network with a SIM card), you *will* permanently brick it.
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thanks for such fast replies. So, if I buy the gsm/cdma phone It sure won´t be as customizable as the gsm version as I haven´t seen many cdma roms around (haven´t looked around that much so I may be wrong) anyways is there any performance/quality disadvantages of going gsm/cdma instead of the "regular" gsm version of this phone? (not really talking about data traffic alone but the overall feel of the phone). A few too many questions I know, so sorry if i´m being kinda bothersome. thanks in advance.
elander said:
thanks for such fast replies. So, if I buy the gsm/cdma phone It sure won´t be as customizable as the gsm version as I haven´t seen many cdma roms around (haven´t looked around that much so I may be wrong) anyways is there any performance/quality disadvantages of going gsm/cdma instead of the "regular" gsm version of this phone? (not really talking about data traffic alone but the overall feel of the phone). A few too many questions I know, so sorry if i´m being kinda bothersome. thanks in advance.
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What carrier do you use?
elander said:
thanks for such fast replies. So, if I buy the gsm/cdma phone It sure won´t be as customizable as the gsm version as I haven´t seen many cdma roms around (haven´t looked around that much so I may be wrong) anyways is there any performance/quality disadvantages of going gsm/cdma instead of the "regular" gsm version of this phone? (not really talking about data traffic alone but the overall feel of the phone). A few too many questions I know, so sorry if i´m being kinda bothersome. thanks in advance.
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That's because you're on XDA-developers, which historically has had more GSM stuff than CDMA, I believe. If you want CDMA stuff, go to ppcgeeks.com, where you'll find a thread on NRG's ROM plus others. So it should be just as customisable as a GSM-only phone.
Ok I'll download the CDMA ROM's... But will I still be able to use SIM cards on it if I go to another country (or in the US for that matter)? I was planning on doing the SIM/Radio unlock thing for US carriers (the one where you enter your IMEI and pay like 14 euros)??
jokersboy said:
Ok I'll download the CDMA ROM's... But will I still be able to use SIM cards on it if I go to another country (or in the US for that matter)? I was planning on doing the SIM/Radio unlock thing for US carriers (the one where you enter your IMEI and pay like 14 euros)??
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I know it's kind of confusing, but it doesn't make a difference if the device uses GSM also. It's a CDMA device. You can only flash CDMA ROMs to it, otherwise it will brick. If you have the radio unlocked, you can use it on other carriers. You can unlock it most easily by contacting the carrier and just telling them you're going on vacation to Europe or something and need it unlocked.
Hi guys,
I plan on buying a Galaxy Tab and plan on using it wi-fi only, so it doesn't matter to me which version I purchase but I'd like to know which version of the tab is easier to hack and get the best use out of?
If I get the wi-fi only version that just got released, can I still use some of the custom roms out there?
Thanks
I won't use the 3G part of it but if I decide to go with a 3G version, should I go with the GSM version or a CDMA version? I know if I go with a GSM Version, I can flash a european FW and use it for phone calls,etc but I have no intention of doing that. All I want to be able to do is have a good working custom rom to get better battery life,etc...
Well the wifi version is new and has no custom roms yet. CDMA version is mostly carrier restricted so rom development is hard. Finally GSM version is easiest one to install custom rom on although i advice you to read alot before flashing custom roms.
DarkPal said:
Well the wifi version is new and has no custom roms yet. CDMA version is mostly carrier restricted so rom development is hard. Finally GSM version is easiest one to install custom rom on although i advice you to read alot before flashing custom roms.
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Well, I am quite familiar with flashing ROMs, mainly for phones though. I read somewhere that T-Mobile has a lot of restrictions, is that true?
Mine is a GSM, Wi-Fi, Version the P1000.
I have had a GSM card in it to test it out, and since removed it.
Although i like to have the option of doing so.
For that reason alone, id suggest the GSM, wifi version.
Just my 2 cents.
I have the GSM 3G wifi Tab and is soooo happy!
I also have two friends who bought the wifi only version and later hoped they got the 3G one..
The WiFi version has BT 2.1 rather than BT 3.0 if you care much about that. Otherwise, the specs are almost the same as the AT&T version. I got the WiFi only, but found that there are at least three Samsung accessories that come up as "not guaranteed to work with your device". The HDMI dock, car charger, and car cradle are the main ones. I don't know if this is due to a lack of testing with the WiFi only, or if it is missing drivers/software/hardware that is needed to use those.
Regardless, I'm happy with mine until a version with a nicer screen comes out. I'm especially happy with the ability to dump just about any media file onto the MicroSD and it will play it.
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WiFi Tab has a PowerVR SGX530 vs. GSM Tab's PowerVR SGX540
Wifi version also has different CPU.
With lower spec GPU, it can't play high-bit-rate 720p and 1080p which the 3G version can handle without problem.
thanks guys. I guess 3G version is a better choice.
I suggest a gsm [at&t/tmo] version. They have 16gb build in.
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Hi!
I have a question about what the real differences between the gsm and cdma töms and tablets...
i have a galaxy tab bought in sweden and running both telia sonera and telenor mobile broadband..
and ny question is the following, i have installed both cdma and gsm custom roms and i havent seen even the sligthest difference of my tabs behaviour either with cdma or gsm so what is the big issue for all the folks in the developement section about "please do a gsm version" or "do u know when the cdma version hits the floor"
i am just a noob so please help me understand
Most times flashing a GSM or CDMA rom on the wrong device screws things up to the point where you have a real brick.
Can't comment on why yours seems ok...
ultramag69 said:
Most times flashing a GSM or CDMA rom on the wrong device screws things up to the point where you have a real brick.
Can't comment on why yours seems ok...
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i think that the cdma version also supports gsm. roms. BUT the gsm version dont support cdma roms
slitex said:
i think that the cdma version also supports gsm. roms. BUT the gsm version dont support cdma roms
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Then why you said that your gsm tab with a cdma rom is working fine ?
Seriously, cdma is for sprint and verizon carriers, they don't use sim cards, gsm versions do. Us, europeans use gsm. If you flash a cdma rom on a gsm device I doubt you'll be able to make calls(I seriously doubt it will boot), because they have different drivers... etc.Try flash the sprint rom on your device for exemple and let us know if it behaves normally
Hope that clears things up a little bit.
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ahh i mixed them up, i ment as u said here above of course..
Even though BOCA and MIUI ROM only work on GSM tablets (I'm pretty sure at least), is it possible to get those ROM's working on a T-mobile Galaxy Tab?
Do you use a sim card? If the answer is "yes", you have a GSM tab....
Flash away......
Wait, really? In the Overcome Installation guide, there are different modem files for T-mobile and GSM-based Tabs, so I assumed that T-mobile Tabs were not GSM...
The only difference between all gsm tabs is the radio chip. T-mobile uses different frequencies from everyone else, so the radio files are different. But the rom is the same for every tab with a sim card (except Latin).
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Even though BOCA and MIUI ROM only work on GSM tablets (I'm pretty sure at least), is it possible to get those ROM's working on a T-mobile Galaxy Tab?
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yes BOCA was built on a tmobile tablet.
if you have a sim card, or the ability to have a sim card, that means you have a GSM device.
hope you enjoy BOCA!
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yes BOCA was built on a tmobile tablet.
if you have a sim card, or the ability to have a sim card, that means you have a GSM device.
hope you enjoy BOCA!
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Quick question: What's the difference between the "secret agent" version and the "high voltage" one?