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[Q] Convert SDCard to MainMem so External_SD becomes SDCard?

Hi there,
Is there a way to make the add the internal SD card to the main memmory? So that there would not be an internal SD card anymore?
I do not mean swapping the moutpoints around so my External_SD becomes my primary and my internal my second....
I want to get rid of the internal one alltogether (adding it to main memory).
I figure that I'll have to format the storage in a certain way... would that do it?
Can someone tell me step by step what to do?
I do have CW-mod installed.
I did search the forum, but couldnt find anything conclusive. Just hints that it should be possible...
If there already is a thread where all this is explained, please point me to it, because I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
Pfeffa-rah

I don't think this is possible , never heard of someone who did it

I have no idea how to do that. My question is... why would you want to do that?
Having an internal_sd partition adds the benefit of having big app data (such as those in Gameloft games) sit in a very fast partition and still be called "sddata".
Also, it's mountable via PC so everything in there can still be backed up. So it's best of both worlds really.

This was discussed some time ago in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013575
There were ideas on how to remount the cards at boot. I myself come to the conclusion that since more phones start to behave in this way, app developers will have to start dealing with it. It just sucks they are mostly slow on the uptake. My main problem was the Spotify cache location being hard coded so I resorted to hack the Spotify apk.
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".

sorech said:
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
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That was actually an honest question.
I wanted to understand why he wanted to do it. (i.e. What would be the advantages of it.) There was no supposed sarcasm in there.

how about the ability to install 5x more applications?

Having that stupid 5gb partition as sd card and the real sd card as a sub folder is retarded...
My 32GB class 10 cars is a lot faster than the internal one.
The internal 5gb memory is MUCH TOO SMALL!!! Most apps don't allow you to store data on the external card. If you like me and many others install some games that download aditional data + a nav app that downloads maps for europe + some streaming music app like wimp that can cache music for offline play then you are ****ed with LG's setup.
The setup CM7 uses solves the main problem but effectively wastes the 5gb by mounting it at emmc where like 0,0001% of apps are able to access it.
So adding those otherwise wasted 5gb to the main memory would be great. But i have not seen any solution to that yet :-(

Thank you Gensplejs for explaining that to them. I had no idea how to reply to that since it seemed so obvious to me.
This thread was ment to be a question about how to do it and not to discuss the usefullness of it. That is where I lost the way in other threads...
So, thanks for your replys all (realy).
But now, back On-Topic:
How would I do it?
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA Premium App

Please don't blame me if you tried it and you screwed up your phone.. It's your choice...
Well, I don't know if this would work, but this is how I would do it (accepting the fact that I'd loose almost 2GB of /data's free space):
1. Format your internal sd card to the same file system as your /data partition is (ext3 or ext4)
2. Copy every file from /data 1:1 to your sdcard (cp -R /data/* /sdcard)
3. I don't know when and where the partitions are mounted (maybe init.rc??)...anyways change the target there and let /data point to the internal sd card partition (so it is ensured that it is mounted automatically to the new location)
4. Reboot and keep your fingers crossed

I think i figured how to do it in theory. First we need some free space at our microsd to cp /data. Then we should repartition with fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 and p9 into one partition and change vold.fstab to mount only externalsd at /sdcard as we do when we swap partitions. In theory it should work but i cant test it right now or make a script since ve gone vacations and i dont have a pc to restore in case of error

I agree.. certain apps wont store to sdcard.. its better to use the whole 8gb as phone storage, and use external sdcard as default sdcard.
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

What ive found till now is that sd swapping is easy. You can do it by tweaking only vold.fstab. But repatriationing is a pain in the ass. Looks like lg has "faulty" partitions or something and to do it you must mesh up with with almost half partitions.
I had to rebuilt boot lgdrm recovery data and sdcard to make em half work. So it probably isnt worth the trouble. Also I think init.rc is built on the boot. So just remounting internal sd to /data wont work either.

sectors is not space
it says 7996, so thats 8GB

i saw it in hurry. the brain sometimes belives whats he want to belive
sorry

New to XDA
Hello everybody,
I'm new to android and i'm trying to find out how to solve the problem posted in this thread.
I see you've got the awnser but i don't know how to do this.
I've been searching google and XDA for ever but i just can't find the awnser.
Could you make a step by step howto or point out to a post how to do this.
I mean converting your external sd to ext4 and change the mounting points.
I'm a complete nood, i didn't get adb to work on my pc, ext4 recovery is not for the p990 2x.
I've read something abbout changing fstap for swapping te mounting points for sdcard and emmc, witch is also ok for me, but formating to ext4... wel i frankly don't know how to do this.
I'm quite stuk on this.
The only partitioning experience i've got is Gparted in Ubuntu or repartitioning in Windows 7.
Thans in andvance!
Greetz,
JMG

http://android.modaco.com/topic/347...-partitions/page__gopid__1821791#entry1821791
check this
you can expand data partition , but there is a limitation of 1.75gb

Thanks davjan
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.

Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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what rom are you using? is your phone rooted?
swapping internal with internal sd is very easy
and most of the roms here on xda are ext4 , if you instal one of them they autoconvert to ext4

Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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I you read the link provided you'll see that it makes what you want: grow internal filesystem = lower SDcard usable space. The only thing is that it doesn't seem possible is to use the whole space: system limitation. 75Markus tried high /system and /data values and phone didn't work.
See in his Mediafire Folder, 'Nvflash + guide for changing Partitions:
http://www.mediafire.com/75markus
Ext4 is now common with custom ROMs (in fact all of them).
You should search in sd-ext partition system, which was designed to artificially expand filesystem on older phones using an 'ext' partition. I didn't heard anybody using this on O2X.
If you use CyanogenMod based ROMs, your external card will be mounted ad /sdcard by default.

Switching internal and external SD
Thanks guy's,
I'll check it out.
I've been using cyanogenmod 7.1 stable with vorkkernel 20110208.
But that gave me batterydrains while using maps and nextvid ate the same time (while i'm driving).
Now i'm trying MIUI 1.11.11 with latest swift extreme.
But MIUI is very buggy so i'm thinking of going back to CM.
The only thing is that my phone won't boot with the latest vorkkernel.

[Q] GPS fix issue with CM9 NIGHTLY GT-I9000

Hello friends,
I am using CM9 NIGHTLY for SGS GT-I9000, I cannot get a GPS fix.
When i use Google maps to find my location with GPS & 3G/Wifi enable it says location cannot be determined.
So i cannot use Google Maps, Navigation, Places etc that need location data.
I have enables all the settings in system settings>Location tab.
Also in other ROMs my external SD card was accessed from
sdcard>external_sd (where sdcard folder contains the files in internal memory/ USB storage), But now external sd card is in a separate folder called emmc.
So some apps cannot move files from internal sd to external sd.
Please help
Thank you in advance.

I use CM9 latest nightly's. My GPS seems to work all the time, and very well too. Don't matter if I use wifi or not. I'm using telus fascinate with galaxysmtd rom/kernel.
As to your SDCard issue, a little while back CM made a change to the mounts. Before the change your internal SDCard would be /mnt/sdcard (/sdcard), and your microsd (external) would be /mnt/emmc.
The CM change swapped both these mounts, so your internel sd became /emmc, and microsd to /sdcard. To revert, go into settings, storage, and hit the menu button. You will get sub menu, hit storage config., and put a check in the box.
Reboot and all should be back to normal. This setting will stick across nightly flashes. If you don't do a full wipe off course.
Let me know how it goes.
-Maniac

MrManiacNF said:
I use CM9 latest nightly's. My GPS seems to work all the time, and very well too. Don't matter if I use wifi or not. I'm using telus fascinate with galaxysmtd rom/kernel.
As to your SDCard issue, a little while back CM made a change to the mounts. Before the change your internal SDCard would be /mnt/sdcard (/sdcard), and your microsd (external) would be /mnt/emmc.
The CM change swapped both these mounts, so your internel sd became /emmc, and microsd to /sdcard. To revert, go into settings, storage, and hit the menu button. You will get sub menu, hit storage config., and put a check in the box.
Reboot and all should be back to normal. This setting will stick across nightly flashes. If you don't do a full wipe off course.
Let me know how it goes.
-Maniac
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Well thanks for your reply, I solved the SD card problem by editing the void file.
But couldn't get the GPS working. Does it have to do anything with kernel?
Does Google maps work for you. I travel a lot so rely on GPS a lot.
And one more thing, whenever i try to make/get a video chat in Gtalk, Gtalk force closes.
Waiting for your reply.

I did a clean flash of CM9 NIGHTLY. Still No luck.
Google maps still doesn't show my location.
In notification GPS endlessly searching for my location.

i have TWICS-UX on my phone,several problems with Gps...i changed baseband to I9000ZWJV4 and i use MNICS kernel and now the Gps work verry fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667051 for radio JV4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158783 for MNICS kernel
try this ...

Problem mounting internal storage on JB Roms

Hi
Some time ago I tried JB Paranoid Android and my internal and external storage worked fine but switched back to ICS roms because of the problems JB roms had.
Now I guess they are more stable and wanted to try again so I installed Utacka's P.A. and I couldn't mount the internal storage. Some apps like camera said I had to insert an sd card. My sd card is mounted as my internal storage and the internal storage isn't anywhere.
I thought it was a problem with the rom so I went back to rocket miui and everything was fine.
Now I saw the cookies and cream Rom and wanted to try it but I'm having the same problem.
I searched in this forum for similar posts and tried ICS SD Binder and it doesn't work (or maybe I'm doing something wrong) and Remount Sd without luck.
According to Solid Explorer, my "Internal" sd's path is /mnt/extSdCard ("Internal" because in fact it's my external sd card) and I also have a /mnt/sdcard folder which says it's empty.
I would really apriciate any help and I'm sorry for my bad english and possible spelling mistakes.
Thanks

perri.etb said:
Hi
Some time ago I tried JB Paranoid Android and my internal and external storage worked fine but switched back to ICS roms because of the problems JB roms had.
Now I guess they are more stable and wanted to try again so I installed Utacka's P.A. and I couldn't mount the internal storage. Some apps like camera said I had to insert an sd card. My sd card is mounted as my internal storage and the internal storage isn't anywhere.
I thought it was a problem with the rom so I went back to rocket miui and everything was fine.
Now I saw the cookies and cream Rom and wanted to try it but I'm having the same problem.
I searched in this forum for similar posts and tried ICS SD Binder and it doesn't work (or maybe I'm doing something wrong) and Remount Sd without luck.
According to Solid Explorer, my "Internal" sd's path is /mnt/extSdCard ("Internal" because in fact it's my external sd card) and I also have a /mnt/sdcard folder which says it's empty.
I would really apriciate any help and I'm sorry for my bad english and possible spelling mistakes.
Thanks
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I had a similar problem, I used ICS SD Binder, checked all 3 options and rebooted. It worked for me. Did you check all 3 options?

Quarmzz said:
I had a similar problem, I used ICS SD Binder, checked all 3 options and rebooted. It worked for me. Did you check all 3 options?
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Yes, I did. Every time I reboot ICS Binder force closes so I guess it isn't really doing anything.
Do you remember which original mount point you chose?

perri.etb said:
Yes, I did. Every time I reboot ICS Binder force closes so I guess it isn't really doing anything.
Do you remember which original mount point you chose?
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It force closes for me too. Though quite annoying, it still works. I chose the something that looked like mnt/ExtSdCard (maybe I didnt spell it correctly but it is the closest to that spelling.) I think the original was odb... Try and lets see if it works...

Quarmzz said:
It force closes for me too. Though quite annoying, it still works. I chose the something that looked like mnt/ExtSdCard (maybe I didnt spell it correctly but it is the closest to that spelling.) I think the original was odb... Try and lets see if it works...
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It's not working for me. When the phone reboots, at the beginning appears a message saying it's checking for errors on the sd card and if I enter to settings/storage it looks like if it is mounting correctly because it says internal storage 11 gb and it looks like if it is scanning it and external storage 29 gb. Then ICS Binder force closes and the external storage desapears and the internal stoage is 29 gb.

[Q] No sdcard or sdcard-ext with Minimoto 1.7 ROM

Hello,
With the issues I was having with the CM 10.1 nightlies, much as I would like to stay, I decided to install the Minimoto 1.7 ROM into the second ROM slot (created with Safestrap 3.05). First, let me say "wow!" I never thought I would see this much speed and available RAM on my Droid 3. Thank you very much, thingonaspring.
For the most part, everything is working great *except* access to both the sdcard (internal) and sdcard-ext (external) storage areas. I read many posts in the Minimoto thread and searched around but nobody else appears to have encountered this which I find rather odd.
After the initial install and after reboots, these areas were still not accessible. I finally ran the terminal emulator and found that, for some unknown reason, they were *not* mounted. I *did* find the internal storage (/dev/block/emstorage) mounted at /ss but not at /mnt/sdcard. I became root using "su" and did the following:
# mount /dev/block/emstorage /mnt/sdcard
# mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/sdcard-ext
Now I can access them along with all of the files I previously had there. The included file manager, when started, presents buttons for "Internal Storage" and "SD", but it still complains that internal storage is not mounted. It will allow me to access the SD card, though.
Under Settings->Storage Settings, everything under "Internal storage" and "SD card" says "unavailable" and both the mount and format buttons are grayed out. Yet, under the "Windows Media Sync" heading, I *can* choose between internal and SD *and* it even shows the correct available/total space values.
Why were these not mounted to begin with? Is mounting them manually an acceptable solution? If it is, where do I put this information so that it occurs at boot like it should (there is no /etc/fstab on Android)? Did I perhaps do something wrong when installing this ROM, maybe because I used ROM slot 2 instead of 1 (which still contains the most current CM 10.1 nightly)?
I really want to get this resolved because, so far, everything else appears to work wonderfully. Even 3g access, which I still haven't gotten working with CM 10.1.
--John Gruenenfelder

I've been running Minimoto for months and both /sdcard and /sdcard-ext are mounted at bootup for me, always, just like stock.
So, I wish I could tell you why, but I cannot.
I guess what I would do is start over. Reboot into Safestrap, remove that second slot and recreate it. Flash the ROM and restart the phone. Do not wipe data/factory reset after flashing the ROM or you will be missing some files (basically, some files required by the customized initial setup application.)

It seems to be fixed! See below for (perhaps) how...
Okay, I gave this a try. Rather than wiping ROM-slot-2, I had enough free space to create slot-3 and I reinstalled Minimoto 1.7 there. Also, this time I downloaded the zip file on my PC and transferred it over rather than downloading it directly onto the phone. Using the UNIX "cmp" tool told me the two files were identical, but I still used the "new" one. It installed fine and I did *not* perform a data wipe.
Unfortunately, same issue. When the device starts I can see the "Preparing XXX storage" messages appear in the notification bar for both internal and SD storage. There are no error messages, but it also did not actually do anything. Then, using the terminal emulator, I gave a long read through the dmesg output. I am more familiar with the kernel messages one sees when booting Linux on a PC, but I still did not see anything unusual.
So, back into Safestrap recovery. This time I tried something different. First, I noticed that the Safestrap file manager *can* see both storage areas and in the locations where they ought to be. This is not new, actually, it has always been the case. Second, I uplugged the USB cable. I have been using it for charging (of course), but at present it was plugged into my laptop and not into the wall charger. Depending on how the mounting occurrs and the exact mount order, I thought this might interfere. Thirrd, and finally, I used the "Fix Permissions" button available in Safestrap on ROM-slot-2 where I had first intalled Minimoto.
After doing these two changes I rebooted the device back into ROM-slot-2. Surprise! I once again saw the "Preparing" messages in the status bar except this time it really worked. The two storage locations are available where they should be and I an access the data just fine. Even the "Storage properties" screen in Settings shows both as mounted with the correct available/total space values given.
Since a plain reboot did not work previously, I have to assume one of the two changes I made fixed the problem, though, since I did both at the same time, I cannot be sure which fixed it.
Now I can get back to enjoying the impressivee speed from Minimoto while I wait to see if (or perhaps when) either the 3g or HW keyboard ALT-key issues are fixed in CM 10.1. Of course, given how much slower CM 10.1 operates (by virtue of using *much* more RAM than Minimoto), I think I might find it very difficult to switch.
--John Gruenenfelder

If you've been trying to hoot while plugged into your laptop I can see it causing issues as when usb mass storage is active, the device can no longer see the sd cards. That is why we have a separate data partition for apps and app data. So if the computer is trying to mount them and denies the phone the ability to mount then I could see issues arising
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[Q] not enough space can help link2sd?

hello , my question is can i make 2. partition for link2sd?
i tryed this with 3-4gb and ext4 but when i linking apps all works fine but when i restart the phone all apps are away,
i fount it with root explorer but not more on phone. must i maby make format in fat32 is this the difference???
or give a another change to make more space i have 32gb sd cart , for nothing??? baldurs gate, assasins pirates, air supremazy or gta san andreas are great games thats i need some more space
thanks for any solution thats working and help my regarts to all (sry my bad english)

Link2sd do not working from Androids 4.1 to up.
Do not ask Why or If will ever be a patch like that, I will be glad to expand the storage on my phone too but not in this way.
The only solution at the moment is use Folder Mount App.

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Link2sd do not working from Androids 4.1 to up.
Do not ask Why or If will ever be a patch like that, I will be glad to expand the storage on my phone too but not in this way.
The only solution at the moment is use Folder Mount App.
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yes the folder mount i tryed too but is little complication for me , wehn i will show apps i dont see all and i dont no wehre are the apps in menu
i tested one game fifa 14 but make douple download data
maybe do you can me a give step to step how that works?

Majin Oluz said:
yes the folder mount i tryed too but is little complication for me , wehn i will show apps i dont see all and i dont no wehre are the apps in menu
i tested one game fifa 14 but make douple download data
maybe do you can me a give step to step how that works?
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Yes, when you "mount" a folder you have a double data, the moved files are the real one, the other folder (where the data was before) are the ghost once (fake), folder mount do that because the system have to read to that file.
In the moment when you unpick the folder, from green to white, the ghost files disappears. Yes, it's a bit confusional but when you learn it will be easy to use.
Remember, when a folder are mounted in Folder Mount (green pick) if you delete the ghost files you will delete also the reals one, be careful.
Apps Analyzer check for Apps to move data from internal to external, just choose the destination (exc..make a folder Games) and yes, overwrite when asked, it will move the files, then they are mounted when is green.
If you have an app and Apps Analyzer do not recognize that app just do it manually, go to List of pairs, click Plus (+), browse to the folder which you want move to SD (obb or data), choose destination and name of the application, done.
Keep testing. you will understand and check always the Internal Storage, if you see it will never go up even if you have double data as the one in internal storage is the fake one.
Click thanx for me. XP

I'm using Link2sd with pac rom (cm based 4.4) without problems. Since the latest update it can even move data to the second partition, so it basically moves everything now. Perhaps you're on stock rom that does not support init.d scripts?

Abomb said:
I'm using Link2sd with pac rom (cm based 4.4) without problems. Since the latest update it can even move data to the second partition, so it basically moves everything now. Perhaps you're on stock rom that does not support init.d scripts?
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That is a good new but Pac Man rooms seems not stable yet and with few bugs.
Do you can mount the whole SD card as internal storage? or just the partition EXT4?

eclyptos said:
That is a good new but Pac Man rooms seems not stable yet and with few bugs.
Do you can mount the whole SD card as internal storage? or just the partition EXT4?
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With the current Pac rom nightly I only have some camera problems, the rest seems really stable already.
Link2sd needs a second partition (which can be ext4, but also ext2/3 or even fat), so you can't use the whole sdcard.

Abomb said:
Link2sd needs a second partition (which can be ext4, but also ext2/3 or even fat), so you can't use the whole sdcard.
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System storage remain unchanged, (11,70gb) I mean it increas after use link2sd?

when i used link2sd with nut 757 fw i can make linking apps (2.partition ext4)
but when i will install a new app say i dont have enough space but i have more than 3gb??? confused
help maybe a another rom, think thats work on ihackers 4.1 ?

eclyptos said:
System storage remain unchanged, (11,70gb) I mean it increas after use link2sd?
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Sorry I misunderstood. With the newest version it really moves everything connected to the app to the second partition and frees up the space in the system storage.

Majin Oluz said:
when i used link2sd with nut 757 fw i can make linking apps (2.partition ext4)
but when i will install a new app say i dont have enough space but i have more than 3gb??? confused
help maybe a another rom, think thats work on ihackers 4.1 ?
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It's a common issue if this script, I had this many times before and this make huge problems as you "maybe" can fix it by wiping Dalvik Cache but if you do that all your saved apps data cache can be losted. So I will be glad if we will be able to mount a whole SD card instead of internal memory so we will get rid of this errors.