Hi all, just wondering if anyone could provide/knows where I can find a comparison between different versions of android on the NC? Considering switching from cupcake to cyanogen or honeycomb, just wondering what the benefits would be. Thanks!
I would say Cyanogemod 7, based on the fact that everything literally works.
CM7 with the tablet tweaks, or honeycomb. Overall, I find honeycomb to be far more enjoyable on a tablet, but CM7 with tablet tweaks is close behind and, as Burnes says, is more functional in the sense that more apps work on it and you have more features eg. bluetooth and better video.
If you can't choose, dual-boot regular CM7 and honeycomb
Customized Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 image for sdcard (3/31):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
It runs off the sdcard so I don't have to worry about BN update. Great battery life; it used about 5% over 16 hours; I did not turn OFF wifi when I put it to sleep, and when I woke up the NC the wifi came back by itself (i.e. I don't have to do anything) within a few seconds.
I have not tried CM7; from what I've read it's a great ROM, and the only major kink left is battery life at sleep. I have no doubt that the gurus here will iron out the kinks, and in a month I look forward to running rooted, OC BN 2.2 stock off emmc and CM7 off the sdcard.
Definitely CM7, especially considering that mad-murdock's tablet tweaks will be commited soon
I would have to say the CM7 tablet mod by mad-murdock is the best version to be using given all the tablet friendly features it has but Nookie Comb is nice though I didn't use it more then a few hours before going back to the CM7 mod. I liked honeycomb but it has some flaws and probably won't try it again till we get a source code dump from google.
Nookie Comb is the best, at least for me.
Madmurdocks CM7 RC4 with tablet tweaks
w/ dalingrin's 3/31 OC kernel
I Love It
I have seen no comprehensive comparison of the current versions of the available roms written up, sadly. I think for the same reason I have not done one:
I like what I am using and don't want the hassles of setting up all the others too.
So this isn't going to be an easy one...
It depends on your needs and desires- different strokes for different folks.
IF you want the most hardware working properly, best software compatibility and most intuitive tablet experience- CM7 with the Tablet Tweaks (Tweaks are not in full rom yet but will be soon. Download in first post- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000) CM7 is intended for internal (emmc) insatllation but folks have gotten it working from sd too, I believe.
If you want Honeycomb to experience a version of Android that Google intended for tablets, it is available in emmc and sd versions as well. Please understand that the actual source code has not been made available yet, so this version is a Preview and has problems that can't be easily fixed without proper source. From all reports it is pretty good though.
Nookie Froyo has fans as well and can be installed either way (emmc/sd) and I am sure there are advantages to be found.
Even stock has good reasons to be chosen: many people really LIKE the stock B&N app and some of its features. Root makes it better of course, adding a real market to the device.
Pretty obvious to tell what my choice is, but I really do think they are all good.
Maybe you can try the all and do the first comprehensive comparison.
^nicely put.
I run my installs off the SD, so i have a stock nook when i want by just popping out the sdcard.
i just picked up a nook and have been trying all sorts of various roms trying to find what i like. I like honeycomb but feel it isn't quite ready yet.
cm7 does seem to have the most working features. One thing that has held me back is that I've been told that sleep doesn't work which forces you to charge daily. I have yet to add the tablet tweaks so maybe i ought to try that.
i've chosen to run nookiecomb and like it except for no bluetooth.
Thanks everyone, this has been super helpful! I've been spending hours every day for the last week or so tweaking my NC, but I'm still pretty n00bish. I'm going to give cyanogen a whirl, as the votes seem to go that way (although the battery life of froyo is tempting...).
Frankly, i can't see why anyone actually chooses to use anything other than CM7 right now. It is more stable than the Froyo build, and more up to date in terms of code base. Yes, it drains battery faster, but it also doesn't have an SOD issue that Froyo has (which is FAR more annoying). CM7 right now has bluetooth working, and with the fully working hardware acceleration, there is no reason to choose the older OS...
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Frankly, i can't see why anyone actually chooses to use anything other than CM7 right now. It is more stable than the Froyo build, and more up to date in terms of code base. Yes, it drains battery faster, but it also doesn't have an SOD issue that Froyo has (which is FAR more annoying). CM7 right now has bluetooth working, and with the fully working hardware acceleration, there is no reason to choose the older OS...
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what is the SOD issue?
SOD = sleep of death. Basically, your system can be locked up after putting it to sleep, and will not come on without long holding the power button and going through a full bootup.
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I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
i tried like 6 or 7 Froyo releases the last month
for me the best 2 are:
Froyo Redux (CM 6)
SpeedTeam Froyo
in Speedteam: i got a problem with the market. downloading stopped working after a day of use with it. besides that, its really nice and fast!
biffmod it had FC's every 10 seconds with the "ime_input" blabla, fu**ed me off, so i deinstalled. couldn't really test it.
froyo redux: it begins lagging after a while of use, but i used it the most until now! like for a week or so! it reacts fast when getting a call, looks nice (install launcherpro for more speed in launcher/homescreen) menu's go really fast and it loads really fast too! For me the best Froyo by now!
chromatic : the style was to dark
SuperFast/stupid Fast: after install i had many FC's -> Deinstalled
Super-F : works fine the most but has problems with some files and cant play mp3 files !! WTF ??
Hope i could help u a little
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I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
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Try: Htcclay Superfly d/s v1.1 - Froyo 2.2
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/07/rom-htcclay-superfly-tcby-v1-1-for-dream-g1/
Absolutely love this one. Market slow on this one but that seems to be on all of the 2.2's.
Thanks for the replies I've given Chromatic a try while I waited for replies and it seems to be the most reliable for 3G that I'd tried to that point. I switched out to Cannon's Eclair as well and that seemed to be good too. Chromatic seemed a little sluggish but no more than other FroYo ROMs. The main sluggish thing that I can't stand is text entry using the virtual keyboard. That seems to be a constant across all FroYo ROMs so far.
tranceonline, you saved me a lot of flashing with that summary so yes you did help I'm going to have a look at FroYo Redux in a little while.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.[/QUOTE]
Can't say I've noticed but I usually use the keyboard anyway since it's a bit faster for me. You could download couple of the other on screen keyboards out there and see if it's the same.Try this one: attached Handcent. If it works on Froyo. Noticed a screen flicker on CM 6.0.0 though. Might just be my phone.?
I've learned a couple of things today, playing again.
Main reason I rooted/flashed was for apps2sd. Don't put upfront tasks, ie: Homescreen launchers, on-going service apps, mail, messaging, etc. on the SD, leave them on internal memory.
I was putting everything on the SD and it took forever to reload home screen coming out of an app and returning home. Don't ask about rebooting. It took forever to load the widgets and get up and running. Got to thinking about the slower speed of the SD versus the phone. So after installing approx 150 apps I said screw it, wiped everything, and reformatted the card.
Dropped swap to 32MB, ext2 512, & fat32.
Now I'm being careful what gets put to the card. Homescreen now boots and loads much better from the phone. Was reading about partitioning and in some cases larger swap slows up the phone considerably so they say. Why the 1 ROM I did suggested 96MB for swap is beyond me. Just don't run a "bunch" of apps at the same time and you won't need much swap. Some have suggested eliminating it altogether. Don't know bout that.
Much snappier performance now. Boots up fast and 3G is no problem.
Might hold off loading apps and try that Froyo Redux 1st. Haven't seen that one.
Later. Learn by doing
I see in the Dev forum that the first RC1 of Cyanogenmod 7 for Milestone is available, but when I go to download it here, it doesn't seem to be available. I guess it would be called update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-0.07-11.02.18-Milestone-signed.zip but that last one available was the 11.02.15 release. Does anyone know whether the RC1-7.0.0-11.02.18 has been withdrawn for some reason?
I've been testing each and every build with good success, so I'm really keen to try the new one. I would ask in the dev forum, but I'm relatively new at the XDA forum and am therefore not eligible to post in it.
SF
Well, I eventually found the correct download link at https://github.com/downloads/nadlabak/android/update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-0.07-11.02.18-Milestone-signed.zip
Thanks,
SF
How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
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How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
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I would stick with cm6 for now. CM7 could use many improvements and as of now is very memory hungry (I was on the feb.10 release). CM7, however, has many bug fixes that are not implemented in cm6, for example, the wifi fix (wasn't working with some n routers before I think [depending on the security type or something] ) and it seems as though there is also the random freeze + random reboot fix (using another, older kernel) I would not switch to CM7, until many bugs are fixed. Also some games don't work.
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How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
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It's great. But video playing not working for me.
So I installed CM7 to try it out, and on RC1 my videos play fine (widescreen) using the included "Video" app. Well most of them do, one of them is displayed 4:3 for some reason?
I'm finding that it works quite well. Battery life is good, but there are a few bugs that need working out. CM6 is probably better if you need your phone to be 100% reliable, but I like to push the boundaries and play around.
Bugs or missing features so far:
- Button lights and keyboard backlight not working properly for me (and at least one other user here)
- Auto backlight brightness not working for me at all
- Volume button swapping/remapping not yet implemented, so that in lanscape mode left means louder (which is the wrong way round for me)
- Memory usage is a problem, so that Launcher pro keeps having to re-initialise
- Camera is VERY unreliable
- Getting random reboots and lockups, especially in Google Maps
Still, things are getting better with every release and I can always go back to CM6 if I want, since I made a Nandroid backup in OpenRecovery before I installed the CM7 update. I've just installed the RC2 update, so lets see how that goes...
SF
Im not tired of flashing new nightly every day or two, but since there is a near perfect CM6 then what's the point using CM7 except a fancy lockscreen effect and more effectively apps2sd of CM? I mean for N1 users, why should we upgrade? Please dont flame me if it's a stupid question.
Gingerbread features. Copy&paste, animation, etc. If you don't like them - don't upgrade.
i've purposely stayed on cyan 6.1 all this time because it was super stable and feature complete.
i finally flashed the latest nightly, and i also flashed stock gingerbread, and there are some major idle power consumption fixes on both. stock GB reduced idle power draw down to some crazy number like -7mA, and on CM7 its around -15mA. compared to my cyan 6 install where i got -30mA or -40mA.
so this is why so many people claiming improved battery life. thats a good reason right there. then of course the new copy paste, screen off animation, and the look and feel of GB. it also seems to have speed improvements.
I cannot find one... I just want it to be a little more faster, at least overclock to 600-680? I am getting a bigger battery so battery life shouldn't be a problem, I need it to be stable and non buggy.
PLEASE help, I have posted threads here and barely anyone responds. Please and thank you.
HTC Dream(T-Mobile G1) 32B, with CM6.1.
Have you tried here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698578?
By the way, G1's have not been proven very stable much beyond 578mhz.
sisterchick said:
Have you tried here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698578?
By the way, G1's have not been proven very stable much beyond 578mhz.
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I guess I am just looking for a little speed bump and a MAJOR battery improvement, it barely lasts long with OEM battery. From 99 to 80 in a good 30 minutes, the hell?
For battery life on a G1, your best choice right now is Farmatito's kernel. I can go at least 24 hours with either barebones CM 6.1 or Froyo by Laszlo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010932
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For battery life on a G1, your best choice right now is Farmatito's kernel. I can go at least 24 hours with either barebones CM 6.1 or Froyo by Laszlo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010932
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I am using the kernel by ezterry, it's running pretty smoothly, how does this compare?
It is an improvement. Farmatito has managed to squash the usb battery drain bug. In standby, I lose 1% or less an hour. (No wifi, gps or bluetooth).
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It is an improvement. Farmatito has managed to squash the usb battery drain bug. In standby, I lose 1% or less an hour. (No wifi, gps or bluetooth).
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Alright biggest question, what is the most stable Sense ROM, I am talking like it runs as smoothly as you would think it's a new device on the market... I don't care if it has Froyo or Eclaire, it just has to work, as I enjoy eye candy, but I NEED speed. The browser on CM6 is just really slow... I know it's partially because this is a 32B device, but there has to be a better ROM, SPEED I need the fastest speed while still keeping the whole stability and pretty thing.
Any suggestions? Cause' as of now, I don't think I wanna be sticking with CM6 sadly. That and the best kernel you have ever found...and I will be happy
Please and thank you
I have no experience with Sense ROMS. Sorry.
I have been experimenting with just what you are looking for...something fast and stable that best uses my available RAM and meets my needs. I've tried most of the Froyo ROMS and have settled on two: barebones CM 6.1 and barebones Froyo by Laszlo. Right now, I'm running CM6.1.
I've made a script that installs a very tiny Gapps file with just what I need and takes out what I don't, including:
delete("/system/app/Protips.apk", "/system/app/RomManager.apk", "/system/app/CMWallpapers.apk", "/system/app/Facebook.apk", "/system/app/LatinIME.apk", "/system/app/LatinIMETutorial.apk", "/system/app/Twitter.apk", "/system/app/Gallery3D.apk", "/system/app/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk", "/system/app/Music.apk", "/system/app/DSPManager.apk", "/system/app/YouTube.apk", "/system/app/CMStats.apk", "/system/vpnservices.apk", "/system/app/VoiceSearch.apk", "/system/app/VoiceDialer.apk", "/system/app/PicoTts.apk", "/system/app/SpeechRecorder.apk");
I also delete all the ringtones I don't use and use a static bootanimation instead of the CM version. That leaves me with 25-28MB of RAM consistently, running no compache, swap or JIT and all apps internal. I also have custom MTD at 80/2 and have about 45MB of leftover space. Works well for me!
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I have no experience with Sense ROMS. Sorry.
I have been experimenting with just what you are looking for...something fast and stable that best uses my available RAM and meets my needs. I've tried most of the Froyo ROMS and have settled on two: barebones CM 6.1 and barebones Froyo by Laszlo. Right now, I'm running CM6.1.
I've made a script that installs a very tiny Gapps file with just what I need and takes out what I don't, including:
delete("/system/app/Protips.apk", "/system/app/RomManager.apk", "/system/app/CMWallpapers.apk", "/system/app/Facebook.apk", "/system/app/LatinIME.apk", "/system/app/LatinIMETutorial.apk", "/system/app/Twitter.apk", "/system/app/Gallery3D.apk", "/system/app/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk", "/system/app/Music.apk", "/system/app/DSPManager.apk", "/system/app/YouTube.apk", "/system/app/CMStats.apk", "/system/vpnservices.apk", "/system/app/VoiceSearch.apk", "/system/app/VoiceDialer.apk", "/system/app/PicoTts.apk", "/system/app/SpeechRecorder.apk");
I also delete all the ringtones I don't use and use a static bootanimation instead of the CM version. That leaves me with 25-28MB of RAM consistently, running no compache, swap or JIT and all apps internal. I also have custom MTD at 80/2 and have about 45MB of leftover space. Works well for me!
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I removed a lot the apks that you listed, I am sure that I won't notice it too much seeing as I already overclocked to a good 614(don't notice anything wrong). I removed the software keyboard as I already have the Gingerbread keyboard, which is much better in my opinion, plus I already have the hardware keyboard anyways. The File manager was something I didn't need too, already used Astro and Root explorer. Rom Manager is extremely pointless because I don't even have CWM anyways so I couldn't use any of the features in the app. I listen to music a lot, use facebook quite often(even though it works very slow, I use it to sync contacts) and sorta want to keep the youtube app.
Thanks for the advice, if there is anything else, please do tell, because I feel this can go faster.
I just purchased a Nook Color from Ebay, and after
I initially followed several posts about creating a bootable SD card to test an alternate OS. The instructions were straight forward, and I was able to quickly create a boot SD. I booted, and things worked, but because my several Kingston MicroSD cards obviously have poor throughput, the performance on the NC was excruciatingly slow and rife with Force Close errors.
So instead of dropping more cash on a more compatible SD card, I decided to just install directly to the EMMC.
I installed the CM9 nightly, (yes, I like living on the bleeding edge) and I must say that I'm impressed. It is a bit sluggish at times, and the touch screen response and accuracy could be better, but overall, I'm pleased. I may revert back to a stable version of CM7 just to compare performance, but until then, I'm quite happy with the results.
Oh, and I set up my DROID Bionic as a WiFi Hotspot, and the NC connects to the Internet without any issue. Very nice!
Sounds like you're doing well.
I was a long term CM7 Nook user and got good value out of that, but switched to CM9 a couple of weeks ago.
Yes, I have lost a few things and the performance / touch response was a little better, but I am sticking with CM9 as it is significantly nicer to use and improving all the time.
Make sure you are over-clocked to 1200 and using Interactive governor to get the best out of it.
CM9
I have tested several nightlies of MC9,I love it except for two big problems
1.Touchscreen is not very responsive
2.Streaming video like Hulu,Netflix,HBO Go and internet TV do not work
So I keep going back to CM7.
Have you also noticed that you sometimes have to touch above and to the right of an icon to get it to work correctly?
It drove me crazy until I figured that one out.
Wow! Those are the EXACT issues I ran into. And so I decided to go back to the stable release of CM7. Performance is like night and day. I can't believe how fast CM7 is in comparison to CM9.
My only real complaint of CM7 is that many apps don't recognize it as a "tablet" so apps tend to look like they do on my DROID Bionic, just in higher resolution. I'm not seeing many apps that display tablet-specific display elements. Not a big deal but kinda disappointing.
I'm not giving up on CM9, though. I may try the dailies every few weeks or so to see how things have improved.
I'm using the "official stable" release of CM7. Has anyone have any good experience with the recent MiRAGE CM7 releases? I tried one from a couple days ago, and had problems connecting to the Market.
I am have those issues as well. However, I am going to stick it a bit longer with cm9 as the nook is not my primary tablet.
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Wow! Those are the EXACT issues I ran into. And so I decided to go back to the stable release of CM7. Performance is like night and day. I can't believe how fast CM7 is in comparison to CM9.
My only real complaint of CM7 is that many apps don't recognize it as a "tablet" so apps tend to look like they do on my DROID Bionic, just in higher resolution. I'm not seeing many apps that display tablet-specific display elements. Not a big deal but kinda disappointing.
I'm not giving up on CM9, though. I may try the dailies every few weeks or so to see how things have improved.
I'm using the "official stable" release of CM7. Has anyone have any good experience with the recent MiRAGE CM7 releases? I tried one from a couple days ago, and had problems connecting to the Market.
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I LOVE Mirage! It is so much faster than stock CM7.1.
FWIW CM9 seemed sluggish om my OC'd NC until I accidentally forced another reboot by running the battery down. The animations seemed smoother after that. It may just be perception though, as I wasn't really looking for it.
Installing using ROM Manager?
HI all,
I downloaded the CM9 nightly to update my Nook Color, which is currently running one of the CM7 nightlies, but an a little unsure on how to actually it. Are you using ROM Manager to install the updated ROM?
Currently running Rom Manager 5.0.0.6, which has Clockworks Mod Recovery 3.2.0.1 flashed.
And correct me if I'm wrong. This does include a kernel, right? I'm assuming I cannot run the 2.6.32.9 kernel I'm currently using in CM7 with this.
Later,
Robert
Which kernel you are going to use depending which cm9 build you downloaded. There are several modded versions of that kernel out there, and including the open-go drivers or not, etc. Every ROM will contain and run a kernel, and so it is automatically depending on which Cm9 ROM you choose. I believe that every build posted within the last three days or so obtains the newest modded kernel containing the experimental drivers and the patch that fixes the formerly prevalent SODs.
Since you have flashed the current stable CWR, I would flash through the CWR menu. Reboot into recovery, and make a backup. Wipe data, cache, dalvik and then choose zip on sdcard, and choosing your preferred cm9 build. Should be all set. Most flats the builds are basically great, but but if the nook isbyour primary tablet, and you may be glad you have a backup of your current cm7, as some bugs can make it hard to run the ROM daily. Battery issues and some laginess has been reported.
Cm9 seems to improve on an almost daily basis, so if you intend to switch permanently, you will probably want to reflashed to current build every several days. Once you have flashed the cm9 build, upgrading to a newer build only requires wiping cache and dalvik, and which is pretty easy and keeps your settings and data intact throughout. These builds are functional, and but meantnfor those who want tontry the most experimental ROMs and are willing to dream with the bugs and want to reflash the newest builds as they arrive.