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Speed & Stability of the Hero ROM's

Hey guys, I been modding my G1 for a while now.
I have always stuck with the Cyanogen ROM's, but I, now want to try one of the Hero rom's. However, I just have a simple question.
How much of a dropoff in speed & stability would I get if I go to the Hero rom?
If it's a big dropoff, then I wont do it, but if it is somewhat similar, then I might as well

it really depends on how you set up your phone and how you use it, but for the most part hero roms now are mostly stable and if you have patience then they are usable. if you are a complete speed demon then just stick with cyanogen's roms, but the sense ui is fun to try out for a while. I actually used jac's 2.3 to like 2.7(something like that) for a good while and actually found my phone to be for the most part good.
really just back up your ext2/3/4 partition, make a nandroid of your cyanogen rom, then setup everything for the hero rom you want and flash it, then if you don't like it wipe your sdcard and restore the backup you have of it and apply your nandroid and you will be where you started.

tissle said:
Hey guys, I been modding my G1 for a while now.
I have always stuck with the Cyanogen ROM's, but I, now want to try one of the Hero rom's. However, I just have a simple question.
How much of a dropoff in speed & stability would I get if I go to the Hero rom?
If it's a big dropoff, then I wont do it, but if it is somewhat similar, then I might as well
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it depends on what swap partition size you have.
By my experience (you can tell by my signature) that Cyanogen Roms with a 32 to 40mb swap works just fine however you may experience lag and several Loading/HTC screens with Hero.
However when I resized my swap file to 96 there was no signifcant change in CM builds (while still using 30 swappiness) and I noticed relatively no lag/loading using HTC Roms using 60 swappiness.
So to sum it up.
Give it a try but you will likely need to resize your swap partition to 96 (i've heard that 48 or something like that is enough but I haven't tried it).
I would say that Hero ROMs are stable enough for daily use, however keep in mind bluetooth doesn't work and LED's are not yet fully functional.

didn't we do a thread similar to this last night Binary100100 lol

[Q] How many people are running stock ROMs?

I have never found any ROM that runs as well as the stock JL2 (I9000M) I am on now. GPS works great (10 sats seen with 32.8ft/10m accuracy), no lag at all, no nothing, the phone works as advertised. I don't have all the features the other ROMs have, but I don't have any problems either.
Just curious how many people are running stock ROM's.
Ian

ROMs offer more than GPS fixes. I use a custom ROM for its visual enhancements, some bundled features and fixes (like wifi drain, etc.) and lag fixes which are not otherwise found in many stock releases.
That said, if one is comfortable with the performance on the whole, then one shouldn't really bother moving across cooked ROMs -- you're right at that

To be honest I never entirely understood why people ran stock ROMs for daily use. Custom ROMs are just so much more versatile, faster (lagfix!), and generally better, so I see no use in running a stock ROM over a cooked one.
EDIT: Except for ROM selection, I guess.. I don't believe there are any cooked ROMs running JL2 right now. Soon as I get my phone back from repair I'll start workin' on one.

QwertyManiac said:
ROMs offer more than GPS fixes. I use a custom ROM for its visual enhancements, some bundled features and fixes (like wifi drain, etc.) and lag fixes which are not otherwise found in many stock releases.
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I only mentioned the GPS as an example because this seems to be one point people are having difficulty with. I get no lag with my phone at all so no lag fix is needed, everything works very well.
I do miss some of the extras on the cooked ROMs like the cool multi-colored 'X' at boot-up on Darky's ROM, the extra SGS tools (I did download them separately though), and other stuff.
I did install the Gingerbread keyboard from that ROM onto mine as it's just a simple apk install.

stock
I have stock JPX but with advance voodoo. over clocked to 1.2 gingerbread launcher and keyboard with aosp lockscreen.
used to flash roms on hero and dream and they just lost to many features or after a few month got very buggy so staying away this time.

What is a stock ROM?? I think I saw or heard that thing when I bought my phone 4 months ago
Seriously, if you're happy with what you have, then stick with it
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...visual enhancements...
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That mod seems to be subjective...thats why I haven't installed any custom ROMs, all the ones I've seen include Voodoo's visual enhancements, but everything on the screen looked slightly over-exposed and washed-out to me.

The only thing i miss with a stock ROM is the superior idle battery life, anything else cant be missed.

w98seeng said:
I only mentioned the GPS as an example because this seems to be one point people are having difficulty with. I get no lag with my phone at all so no lag fix is needed, everything works very well.
I do miss some of the extras on the cooked ROMs like the cool multi-colored 'X' at boot-up on Darky's ROM, the extra SGS tools (I did download them separately though), and other stuff.
I did install the Gingerbread keyboard from that ROM onto mine as it's just a simple apk install.
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See, its a matter of personal taste and preference.
Compare it with a car. You buy a car and some people like it stock and untouched. The stock ride is good anyway and is mostly fine. Some people want to personalize the car and put alloys, change interiors. Some want more performance and put some engine enhancement parts or boosts.
Same goes with your phone. You can pimp it any way you want by using different ROMs or you can stay at stock.
No one can tell you and convince you what you are missing unless you try it.

I've been using stock rom, currently jpo, will upgrade to jpy via kies as soon as I get some time.

I have tried a lot of different roms in the 4 months I have had my phone.
I always found the cooked roms a bit flaky, not too bad, but enough where I always go back to stock.
Is there a list somewhere where I can see the changes between 2.1, 2.2 and 2.2.1?
Thanks,
Ian
PS, sorry for posting in the wrong forum, I'll take 20 lashings out of petty cash.

I'm running with Darkys V7.6 Rom at the moment it is much, much faster then the stock XXJPY and im now running speedmod instead of voodoo and battery life has improved a little.
Overall i think if you can make a rom or use a custom one with all of the required lagfixes and other little tweaks they are far superior to stock roms!

I am a big fan of Stock ROMS in general. The cleaner the better I always say... The new JL2 ROM is very nice. Fast, stable, and works well. I do like to change the home screen for visual stylings.
That being said, I blew my phone up yesterday trying to download 2.2.1 from Kies so I am currently running Darky 7.6.

[Q] Best ROM on Milestone?

Hi, my question is simple but the answer could be an entire book...
Since we can no longer trust Motorola and their crappy customer care (don't want to waste time to say those things again, all of you know what I'm talking about )
I had a look over the Internet to understand which ROM is suitable for an upgrade, but now I am confused :
there are a lot of ROMs out there, and I don't have time to test each one (more, I have only this phone, if I brick it, or block it due to an unusable ROM I have to fix it asap.).
Is there a fully working unofficial ROM with a better performance than the stock one? (with flash and app2sd?)
I understand that the locked bootloader isn't helping on this, but I'm interested in the full features of my smartphone: if camera doesn't work for example, for me it's a shame (either if everything else works flawless..).
I am root already if that can help...
Thank you in advance
Pol.

polengo said:
Hi, my question is simple but the answer could be an entire book...
Since we can no longer trust Motorola and their crappy customer care (don't want to waste time to say those things again, all of you know what I'm talking about )
I had a look over the Internet to understand which ROM is suitable for an upgrade, but now I am confused :
there are a lot of ROMs out there, and I don't have time to test each one (more, I have only this phone, if I brick it, or block it due to an unusable ROM I have to fix it asap.).
Is there a fully working unofficial ROM with a better performance than the stock one? (with flash and app2sd?)
I understand that the locked bootloader isn't helping on this, but I'm interested in the full features of my smartphone: if camera doesn't work for example, for me it's a shame (either if everything else works flawless..).
I am root already if that can help...
Thank you in advance
Pol.
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Bro, try shadowmod b3,
I have used froyomod, cm6, hobomod and shadowmod,
I can undoubtedly say that shawdowmod b3 is the best one,
Advantage:
OK battery life, never lag, stable
Disadvantages:
Aggressive autokill
(but would not affect music player, doesn't matter to me)
SMS notification light doesn't work
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be experimental
its a question of what u personally prefer...
aesthetic appeal,lag,bugs gotta be considered..
i use the beta CM6.1.2 milestone port...
its a lill(very lil) laggy but everythin seems to work flawlessly
plus the cpu is overclocked to 900mhz. which is favourable
try diff roms and choose ... but be sure to make a backup of what u already have

I am using for about two weeks ShadowMod B3 and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
Pros :
- fast ;
- ~stable ;
- no battery problems (1d and ~15 hours - moderate use).
Cons :
- can't listen music and play in the same time (player is killed) ;
- some problems with the gallery and with the camera (specially when pressing the camera button) ;
- about ~3 restarts per week (surely the problem is the ROM and not my OC).
BTW , my SMS notification works (green light blinking). :-?
Comparing this to what I've already used (stock Eclair , CM 6.1.2), this is pretty cool, but it would be much nicer is the agressive autokill could be removed.

Thank you for your answers
I saw an outstanding performance of Quadrant on a shadowmodded milestone on Youtube, but I am worried by those bugs: as I can see there are different bugs on different milestones (how is it possible? aren't they sharing the same hardware? )
What do you mean with "Aggressive Autokill"? No multitasking?
while the cons mentioned by Abazel are not reassuring
The little lags on CM are the only issues? I read somewhere that you can no longer mount the SD card via USB and that there are some problems with camera too.
How about random reboots with this ROM?
Thank you again
Pol.

CM 6.1.2 was pretty stable for me but I was a bit laggy (not very much and was ~the single problem I found). ShadowMod b3 it's a bit weird - it works downloading and playing something at the same time but I can't listen to music and play simultaneously - the player is killed => the music starts singing => stops again (thing which could have been done easily under CM 6.1.2). These days I am encountering several problems (restarts or freeze at "Gallery"). I don't know what is the problem. With the SD card i don't have any issues at all... works fine for me. So, if you want improved stability, go for CyanogenMod 6.1.2. If you want a "bumpy ride" , try ShadowMod. ) Have a nice day!

Thank you,
I assume that these are the two best options.
I wonder if CM7 is already stable enough or if it's better to use CM6 since it's already stable.
BTW I believe that ****ijsood is right, I have to be experimental. Just need to find some spare time to waste on this...

Yep, the main problem of shadowmod b3 is the aggressive autokill,
Because of this feature, the phone never lag.
Some think that this autokill is disturbing coz they are used to listening to music and at the same time play game.
But as I never do that, this autokill wouldn't disturb me.....
As this phone has limited ram, there is always a tradeoff....
I am not saying that cm6 is not good. It has the best features and widgets.
But I just cannot stand the laggy feeling

If the Autokill would affect only "heavy" apps like games and music players, maybe it's not so bad.
I think I'll give Shadowmod a try, I can always change again if I find it too buggy.
Thank you for your answers

polengo, or others, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I was wondering if there are any 'improved" ROMS out there now for the MM1.
I recently acquired a Milestone (3-4 months) running Eclair and it's been kind of quirky. Random freezes, random reboots, laggy, when bluetooth or headphone is disconnected the music player starts on its own. Battery life has been quite good stock, with light to moderate use.
Thanks.

Cm7 for me has been the best. I have had one random reboot in the past couple weeks. runs smooth, and the battery life is as good as any other rom ive tried.

Well, right now, I think the best rom around is latest CM7 or HONOmod. Although, you might want to give a try to CM6 or Luca's froyomod, if you need an extra piece of ram. The only drawback with froyo based roms right now is the lack of active development. You have to face that MM1 is an old piece of hardware right now!
Enviado desde mi Milestone usando Tapatalk

The CM9 Alpha runs quiet smooth.
I use it in my daily life.

Trying to install HO!NO! using clockworkmod and keep getting (error 7). I am not seeing this error with other roms. I tried toggling the signature verification and that only pushed the error back a few more seconds. Should I move the file out of openrecovery directory and place it in the nandroid directory and ask Nandroid to perform a backup using the HO!NO! zip file? In other words, should I use your zip as a backup and not as a rom? I look forward to checking your ROM out. The buzz is pretty exciting. Thanks.
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My bad, wrong thread. please delete.

[Q] Best Android Version for NC

Hi all, just wondering if anyone could provide/knows where I can find a comparison between different versions of android on the NC? Considering switching from cupcake to cyanogen or honeycomb, just wondering what the benefits would be. Thanks!

I would say Cyanogemod 7, based on the fact that everything literally works.

CM7 with the tablet tweaks, or honeycomb. Overall, I find honeycomb to be far more enjoyable on a tablet, but CM7 with tablet tweaks is close behind and, as Burnes says, is more functional in the sense that more apps work on it and you have more features eg. bluetooth and better video.
If you can't choose, dual-boot regular CM7 and honeycomb

Customized Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 image for sdcard (3/31):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
It runs off the sdcard so I don't have to worry about BN update. Great battery life; it used about 5% over 16 hours; I did not turn OFF wifi when I put it to sleep, and when I woke up the NC the wifi came back by itself (i.e. I don't have to do anything) within a few seconds.
I have not tried CM7; from what I've read it's a great ROM, and the only major kink left is battery life at sleep. I have no doubt that the gurus here will iron out the kinks, and in a month I look forward to running rooted, OC BN 2.2 stock off emmc and CM7 off the sdcard.

Definitely CM7, especially considering that mad-murdock's tablet tweaks will be commited soon

I would have to say the CM7 tablet mod by mad-murdock is the best version to be using given all the tablet friendly features it has but Nookie Comb is nice though I didn't use it more then a few hours before going back to the CM7 mod. I liked honeycomb but it has some flaws and probably won't try it again till we get a source code dump from google.

Nookie Comb is the best, at least for me.

Madmurdocks CM7 RC4 with tablet tweaks
w/ dalingrin's 3/31 OC kernel
I Love It

I have seen no comprehensive comparison of the current versions of the available roms written up, sadly. I think for the same reason I have not done one:
I like what I am using and don't want the hassles of setting up all the others too.
So this isn't going to be an easy one...
It depends on your needs and desires- different strokes for different folks.
IF you want the most hardware working properly, best software compatibility and most intuitive tablet experience- CM7 with the Tablet Tweaks (Tweaks are not in full rom yet but will be soon. Download in first post- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000) CM7 is intended for internal (emmc) insatllation but folks have gotten it working from sd too, I believe.
If you want Honeycomb to experience a version of Android that Google intended for tablets, it is available in emmc and sd versions as well. Please understand that the actual source code has not been made available yet, so this version is a Preview and has problems that can't be easily fixed without proper source. From all reports it is pretty good though.
Nookie Froyo has fans as well and can be installed either way (emmc/sd) and I am sure there are advantages to be found.
Even stock has good reasons to be chosen: many people really LIKE the stock B&N app and some of its features. Root makes it better of course, adding a real market to the device.
Pretty obvious to tell what my choice is, but I really do think they are all good.
Maybe you can try the all and do the first comprehensive comparison.

^nicely put.
I run my installs off the SD, so i have a stock nook when i want by just popping out the sdcard.
i just picked up a nook and have been trying all sorts of various roms trying to find what i like. I like honeycomb but feel it isn't quite ready yet.
cm7 does seem to have the most working features. One thing that has held me back is that I've been told that sleep doesn't work which forces you to charge daily. I have yet to add the tablet tweaks so maybe i ought to try that.
i've chosen to run nookiecomb and like it except for no bluetooth.

Thanks everyone, this has been super helpful! I've been spending hours every day for the last week or so tweaking my NC, but I'm still pretty n00bish. I'm going to give cyanogen a whirl, as the votes seem to go that way (although the battery life of froyo is tempting...).

Frankly, i can't see why anyone actually chooses to use anything other than CM7 right now. It is more stable than the Froyo build, and more up to date in terms of code base. Yes, it drains battery faster, but it also doesn't have an SOD issue that Froyo has (which is FAR more annoying). CM7 right now has bluetooth working, and with the fully working hardware acceleration, there is no reason to choose the older OS...

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Frankly, i can't see why anyone actually chooses to use anything other than CM7 right now. It is more stable than the Froyo build, and more up to date in terms of code base. Yes, it drains battery faster, but it also doesn't have an SOD issue that Froyo has (which is FAR more annoying). CM7 right now has bluetooth working, and with the fully working hardware acceleration, there is no reason to choose the older OS...
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what is the SOD issue?

SOD = sleep of death. Basically, your system can be locked up after putting it to sleep, and will not come on without long holding the power button and going through a full bootup.

[Q] What are the best performance settings for Cyanogen mod?

Hey guys, as far as the Nexus One and CM 7 goes, what are the optimal settings to keep checked in CM settings, and what's the best kernel/settings for speed, but great battery life? I downloaded and installed Pershoot's kernel. Please let me know because I need the phone for long periods of time for two weeks, but I can't get an extended battery. I'm new to the N1, hence why I ask you all and can't test on my own. Thanks!

CM7 is pretty well pre-configured for great battery life and great performance. I don't know if there is much you could change that would show any benefit within the install.
I think redstar has been creating some of the most popular kernels as of late. Great performance and battery life (from what I read).
Also, if you aren't running the nightlies, I can highly recommend it. There have been some substantial performance enhancements and battery savings that have been a result of some major bug fixes. Build #87 has been working great for me.

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CM7 is pretty well pre-configured for great battery life and great performance. I don't know if there is much you could change that would show any benefit within the install.
I think redstar has been creating some of the most popular kernels as of late. Great performance and battery life (from what I read).
Also, if you aren't running the nightlies, I can highly recommend it. There have been some substantial performance enhancements and battery savings that have been a result of some major bug fixes. Build #87 has been working great for me.
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Thanks so much, but could anyone else please provide me with further/specific/good cyanogen mod settings for the N1, such as what to check, how much VM heap, etc?
I'm gonna stick with pershoot for kernels, as i use him for the G2, and before the G1.
I freakin' love nightlies, BUT, the reason I'm running stable is because I'm leaving the country for two weeks, and I won't have access and the freedom to change my ROM due to not having a computer all the time. Hence the stable version - I do love nightlies though!
To reiterate, what are the best CM settings for CM7? Thanks in advance, guys!

Well, if you are going to run stable, do a search for the "wonk fix" and flash that zip. It is one of the major fixes in the nightlies that improves battery life.
I'm still not sure that there are any settings you could really play around with that would show any tangible benefit.
And with build #87, it has been rock solid for me. I thought the ADW EX transistions in the past were smooth. You don't need to constantly update the nightlies if you can find a good one. Just sit it out until you feel like updating again. And #87 is a great one to be at.

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Well, if you are going to run stable, do a search for the "wonk fix" and flash that zip. It is one of the major fixes in the nightlies that improves battery life.
I'm still not sure that there are any settings you could really play around with that would show any tangible benefit.
And with build #87, it has been rock solid for me. I thought the ADW EX transistions in the past were smooth. You don't need to constantly update the nightlies if you can find a good one. Just sit it out until you feel like updating again. And #87 is a great one to be at.
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Sounds good, man. Thanks for your help and telling me about the wonk fix! Although I'm not 100% sure what it's for.
Should home and messaging in memory be checked?
One more issue, when I nees to press the capacitive home, menu, back, and search button, I always have to tap a bit higher than where thee keys are actualy located on the screen.everything else about the touch screen is fine. what's the reason for this?

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Sounds good, man. Thanks for your help and telling me about the wonk fix! Although I'm not 100% sure what it's for.
Should home and messaging in memory be checked?
One more issue, when I nees to press the capacitive home, menu, back, and search button, I always have to tap a bit higher than where thee keys are actualy located on the screen.everything else about the touch screen is fine. what's the reason for this?
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The wonk fix was an issue that plauged CM for quite a while on the N1. It caused hard lockups of the microphone and the screen. Also, because of it, the microphone was never able to enter its low-power sleep state. With the wonk fix, you won't have any issues with the mic, and the phone will reach its low-powered sleep state.
I have never enabled the keep in memory options. My understanding is these settings were more for devices that had limited RAM (like the G1), because Android would dump these programs to free up memory for other apps, so when you went to them, it would take a while for the system to restart them. I haven't ran into a need to do this on the N1. The heap size limits the amount of ram that an app can use. Unless you are running some crazy memory intensive apps, there is really no need to adjust this. It won't help most of the apps that are out there.
As for the capacitive buttons, welcome to the wonderful world of the N1 digitizer (touchscreen). I don't know of any way to adjust this, but you get used to it pretty quickly.

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The wonk fix was an issue that plauged CM for quite a while on the N1. It caused hard lockups of the microphone and the screen. Also, because of it, the microphone was never able to enter its low-power sleep state. With the wonk fix, you won't have any issues with the mic, and the phone will reach its low-powered sleep state.
I have never enabled the keep in memory options. My understanding is these settings were more for devices that had limited RAM (like the G1), because Android would dump these programs to free up memory for other apps, so when you went to them, it would take a while for the system to restart them. I haven't ran into a need to do this on the N1. The heap size limits the amount of ram that an app can use. Unless you are running some crazy memory intensive apps, there is really no need to adjust this. It won't help most of the apps that are out there.
As for the capacitive buttons, welcome to the wonderful world of the N1 digitizer (touchscreen). I don't know of any way to adjust this, but you get used to it pretty quickly.
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Okay - I'll keep those disable then, and yay digitizer. Also, I don't know if it's the wonk fix, but my camera is force closing now

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Okay - I'll keep those disable then, and yay digitizer. Also, I don't know if it's the wonk fix, but my camera is force closing now
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No, the wonk doesn't affect the camera. What is your radio version (aka baseband)? With the N1s we usually just refer to the two sets of numbers after the underscore "_" (eg 5.08, 4.06, etc). The 5.08 is the version that google sent out with the Gingerbread update and overall seems to be the best consistent performer for the phones. The 4.06 seems to crash the camera and/or camcorder. The 5.12 seems to be really hit or miss. Some phones it runs great, others they get all sorts of issues. I usually recommend the 5.08.

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No, the wonk doesn't affect the camera. What is your radio version (aka baseband)? With the N1s we usually just refer to the two sets of numbers after the underscore "_" (eg 5.08, 4.06, etc). The 5.08 is the version that google sent out with the Gingerbread update and overall seems to be the best consistent performer for the phones. The 4.06 seems to crash the camera and/or camcorder. The 5.12 seems to be really hit or miss. Some phones it runs great, others they get all sorts of issues. I usually recommend the 5.08.
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Okay, and my apologies, with college I've missed and forgot key things about android - how do I find my radio version? Boot into fastboot or the bootloader?
EDIT: Under basband version, on the about phone menu, it says:
32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2
Is that baseband 4.03?

Yes, the radio on your phone is 4.03. I would highly recommend updating it to 5.08. There is a basic guide in the wiki for it, or you can hit up the N1 wiki on xda for a more in depth guide.

the wonk fix and and kinda directly related to that fix greatly fixed some battery issues which kinda makes running the last stable version not worth it. the newest nightly is so much improved on battery idle current draw that its something needs to be emphesized. its that good where you can be unplugged for 8 hours and lose 3% battery idle standby, wifi on. 3-4mA current draw.
that aside, pershoots kernel is great, redstar too. there's not much i do anymore with settings on cm7 cause its so good lately.

bassmadrigal said:
Yes, the radio on your phone is 4.03. I would highly recommend updating it to 5.08. There is a basic guide in the wiki for it, or you can hit up the N1 wiki on xda for a more in depth guide.
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Where is said wiki located?
I'd like an in depth, detailed noob guide as to avoid messing up the phonee
Also, thanks for the info Roger. I'm gonna stick with nightly #87 since peeople are saying the battery life is great and it's stable.

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Also, thanks for the info Roger. I'm gonna stick with nightly #87 since peeople are saying the battery life is great and it's stable.
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that's the perfect choice, you will be very happy.

isikh said:
Where is said wiki located?
I'd like an in depth, detailed noob guide as to avoid messing up the phonee
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I'm on my phone so it is hard to do links, but if you go into the Nexus One General forum, I think it is one of the first few stickys in there.

Wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One