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stable fast Hero Build

Is there a Hero rom out there that is stable and fast and does not slow down after you use it for a couple of days?
Also when is someone going to hook it up with a hero build that:
- Doesnt freeze when you open the phone on the main screen
- doesnt loose internal memory as you use the browser
- has BLUETOOTH
If any one can help with these please respond
Thanks

The G1 just doesn't have the ram to run the Sense UI efficiently.

masterrn said:
Is there a Hero rom out there that is stable and fast and does not slow down after you use it for a couple of days?
Also when is someone going to hook it up with a hero build that:
- Doesnt freeze when you open the phone on the main screen
- doesnt loose internal memory as you use the browser
- has BLUETOOTH
If any one can help with these please respond
Thanks
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Yeah, youre not really going to find a Hero ROM that you can use as a daily driver without wanting to throw it at a wall at some point.
I've literally tried them all.... Do the same, you might find one to your liking. I might jsut be a 'rom speed' snob lol In the end I sacrificed the fancy UI for my sanity level.

No offense to the OP, but these threads are starting to get really old. It is well documented all over this forum that the dream is just not capable of running the sense ui because of its hardware restrictions. Most of the hero builds here are optimized but expect some lag and as far as i know, the bluetooth fix is a long ways off, if at all. Its impossible to expect the g1 to run a lag free hero when even the hero cant run it lag free!

Senorkabob said:
Yeah, youre not really going to find a Hero ROM that you can use as a daily driver without wanting to throw it at a wall at some point.
I've literally tried them all.... Do the same, you might find one to your liking. I might jsut be a 'rom speed' snob lol In the end I sacrificed the fancy UI for my sanity level.
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yep, they run fine at home but the second you step out of the house everything goes to sh*t

masterrn said:
Is there a Hero rom out there that is stable and fast and does not slow down after you use it for a couple of days?
Also when is someone going to hook it up with a hero build that:
- Doesnt freeze when you open the phone on the main screen
- doesnt loose internal memory as you use the browser
- has BLUETOOTH
If any one can help with these please respond
Thanks
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1. hero doesnt have a keyboard and its hard edit the code to where it would support landscape mode on the homescreen and have the sense UI running
2. are u kidding me. ALL phones lose internal memory when using the browser. it saves your cookies,cache,passwords ect. i am sure that cache can be transfered to sd card but it things stored on phones internal memory runs faster..just clear out ur cache and such once in awhile
3. bluetooth i read its rly difficult to fix.

Have you tried Drizzy superlite build? Ive been using it for a few days and it works pretty well. Its Hero, but uses the usual dream interface so you can bust out the keyboard on the home screen without the phone freaking out which drove me crazy too. Still no bluetooth or led's but whatever.

drizzy stated early yesterday on twitter that champion v2 is stable and was the first hero to be stablized.
(Champion Hero is a stable build"first stable hero" yay!!) from drizzy yesterday on twitter
(Though I am still gunna mark it down for experimental because its a completely new build! But you will see how stable it is!
11:52 AM Aug 16th from HTC Peep)

Thanks Guys for all your info.
keep all the new updates coming, keep posting any new info you hear about.

Why So Slow!!?!

I've rooted my G1 and have tried several different roms including SuperD and others that claim to be the fastest. Within minutes of flashing the rom my phone starts to slow waaaaay down. Moving from open apps to the home screen gives me the black screen for a good 7 or 8 seconds and another 5 seconds later my icons show up. Even going into the dialer does this. I kill all open apps every few minutes to clear up memory but it's still extremely slow. Is there something I did wrong when I rooted or am I just unlucky in my choices of roms?
Is there a way to run the stock rom on a rooted phone? I never seemed to have this many speed issues before I rooted...

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I've rooted my G1 and have tried several different roms including SuperD and others that claim to be the fastest. Within minutes of flashing the rom my phone starts to slow waaaaay down. Moving from open apps to the home screen gives me the black screen for a good 7 or 8 seconds and another 5 seconds later my icons show up. Even going into the dialer does this. I kill all open apps every few minutes to clear up memory but it's still extremely slow. Is there something I did wrong when I rooted or am I just unlucky in my choices of roms?
Is there a way to run the stock rom on a rooted phone? I never seemed to have this many speed issues before I rooted...
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Root doesn't slow you down, the specific build does.
If you want to run a stock rom on your phone, I suggest the one available at developer.htc.com/adp.html.... which has root, just restricted (for your safety) to adb connections, i.e. only the "shell" user has the right to "su".

By build are you referring to the ROM? or the SPL? I'm relatively new to this if you haven't noticed
So what would be a good build that doesn't have restrictions and doesn't bog my phone down? Do I need to just start over?

gridlock1024 said:
By build are you referring to the ROM? or the SPL? I'm relatively new to this if you haven't noticed
So what would be a good build that doesn't have restrictions and doesn't bog my phone down? Do I need to just start over?
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SPL is just an SPL. It has absolutely no effect on performance whatsoever. Its job is literally OVER as soon as the linux kernel takes control.
Just like the BIOS in your computer.
As for what build to run, OEM tends to be pretty lean and performs fairly consistently. Some of the community builds are very powerful, but tend to get BLOATED and slow. Cyanogen is an example of this (and typically everything based on it). Not to say that there is anything wrong with that, just a different characteristic.
You need to look at different builds that are available, and maybe try a few, and decide what you like best.

Go in to Spare Parts and enable "Launcher in memory." This should fix the home screen lag. If you're fine sticking with 1.6 roms, Super D is a solid and very fast option.

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So what would be a good build that doesn't have restrictions and doesn't bog my phone down?
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Try enomther's "theofficial" builds.. they're based off stock but with loads of config options.

Moved to the Q&A section.

well...ive run quite a few roms....i had cyanogenmod 4.2.15 n was happy with that...i would enable compcache and enable the home in memory option....
i tried super d also and liked it...i tried super csdi or something like that and liked it but it started lagging on me....kept it for a while n went back to cm
now im on cm 5.0.8 and im pretty happy with it....i have it overclocked to 576mhz, have home in memory and compcache enabled...my only problem with it is that i miss using snap photo...images come out all garbled for preview....
i tried the hero roms and i didnt like the lag on them...look nice but i prefer performance over looks

Eclair and FroYo ROMs - need recommendations

I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.

i tried like 6 or 7 Froyo releases the last month
for me the best 2 are:
Froyo Redux (CM 6)
SpeedTeam Froyo
in Speedteam: i got a problem with the market. downloading stopped working after a day of use with it. besides that, its really nice and fast!
biffmod it had FC's every 10 seconds with the "ime_input" blabla, fu**ed me off, so i deinstalled. couldn't really test it.
froyo redux: it begins lagging after a while of use, but i used it the most until now! like for a week or so! it reacts fast when getting a call, looks nice (install launcherpro for more speed in launcher/homescreen) menu's go really fast and it loads really fast too! For me the best Froyo by now!
chromatic : the style was to dark
SuperFast/stupid Fast: after install i had many FC's -> Deinstalled
Super-F : works fine the most but has problems with some files and cant play mp3 files !! WTF ??
Hope i could help u a little

Dyonas said:
I'm having some issues with my G1 with 3G and data connectivity in general. I'm not posting to ask for help on fixing that, although I won't object to help, I'm posting to ask for two ROMs for both Eclair and FroYo. I need to discount CyanogenMod since those are the main ones I run and it happens in both to a degree and my troubleshooting will be better if I know it isn't a ROM specific issue.
I'm aware that there are known issues (with no fix) that others have with both Eclair and FroYo releases of CM right now but it seems different and I want to be sure that it isn't my phone. The reason I'm posting to ask for recommendations is that I'm sure a lot of people are aware there are a lot of ROMs floating around that are little besides blatant rips of other people's work. I want to avoid that since it won't help at all and if it is a rip of someone elses work it will give the same results.
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Try: Htcclay Superfly d/s v1.1 - Froyo 2.2
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/07/rom-htcclay-superfly-tcby-v1-1-for-dream-g1/
Absolutely love this one. Market slow on this one but that seems to be on all of the 2.2's.

Thanks for the replies I've given Chromatic a try while I waited for replies and it seems to be the most reliable for 3G that I'd tried to that point. I switched out to Cannon's Eclair as well and that seemed to be good too. Chromatic seemed a little sluggish but no more than other FroYo ROMs. The main sluggish thing that I can't stand is text entry using the virtual keyboard. That seems to be a constant across all FroYo ROMs so far.
tranceonline, you saved me a lot of flashing with that summary so yes you did help I'm going to have a look at FroYo Redux in a little while.
crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.

crz6662, testing out the one you recommended now and it seems about the same as most FroYo ROMs, do you notice any stuttering when using the virtual keyboard? It seems to be a bit on / off like it will work for the first letter or two, freeze while you're pressing keys and then a second later you'll see all the keys appear. I can't stand it >_< I don't know if it's the ROMs, the keyboard IME or a combination of both.[/QUOTE]
Can't say I've noticed but I usually use the keyboard anyway since it's a bit faster for me. You could download couple of the other on screen keyboards out there and see if it's the same.Try this one: attached Handcent. If it works on Froyo. Noticed a screen flicker on CM 6.0.0 though. Might just be my phone.?
I've learned a couple of things today, playing again.
Main reason I rooted/flashed was for apps2sd. Don't put upfront tasks, ie: Homescreen launchers, on-going service apps, mail, messaging, etc. on the SD, leave them on internal memory.
I was putting everything on the SD and it took forever to reload home screen coming out of an app and returning home. Don't ask about rebooting. It took forever to load the widgets and get up and running. Got to thinking about the slower speed of the SD versus the phone. So after installing approx 150 apps I said screw it, wiped everything, and reformatted the card.
Dropped swap to 32MB, ext2 512, & fat32.
Now I'm being careful what gets put to the card. Homescreen now boots and loads much better from the phone. Was reading about partitioning and in some cases larger swap slows up the phone considerably so they say. Why the 1 ROM I did suggested 96MB for swap is beyond me. Just don't run a "bunch" of apps at the same time and you won't need much swap. Some have suggested eliminating it altogether. Don't know bout that.
Much snappier performance now. Boots up fast and 3G is no problem.
Might hold off loading apps and try that Froyo Redux 1st. Haven't seen that one.
Later. Learn by doing

General question about Froyo 2.2 on 32B

First, I apologize if this is an issue that has already been discussed; however, I did look through the stickied threads and didn't find anything that really answered the question I have.
I have tried several different Froyo 2.2 ROMs on my Dream, and they always seem to run a fraction of the speed of Donut ROMs. Loading the home screen, applications, and webpages always seems to take a lot longer, and there just isn't that quickness that Donut has.
Am I doing something wrong? Anyone else have the same experiences?

I actually have to stick with this fact. Also i did notice that the rom i tried "passing through" the process of moving on from Android 1.6 to Android 2.2.1 (was JF if i recall) was kinda faster then the Biff mod i have on my G1 now.
But i don't think that it is anything wrong about it, i think that frankly the g1 start to be an obsolete piece of hardware.
Maybe i am wrong but just so that you know i tried to download "Angry Birds Lite" and start it...well it's kinda a shame as it stutters terribly. Is it a matter of ROM MOD or just that the G1 isn't a young quicky fella anymore ?

The hardware is outdated .

It's just interesting then how so many people appear to be running these Froyo 2.2 builds. Do they not realize how sluggish they have made their phones?

Why shouldn't we M!x. Me, on my hand, i have a G1 blocked by my phoning company and sold me an 1.1 Android HTC Dream...so awful...i couldn't even use my camera as a video recorder (and they didn't release not 1, not only 1 update!)
And as long as i am flashing and modifying everything i don't find why shouldn't i update my phone to the latest version of this wonderful OS.

N4R4Y4N said:
Why shouldn't we M!x. Me, on my hand, i have a G1 blocked by my phoning company and sold me an 1.1 Android HTC Dream...so awful...i couldn't even use my camera as a video recorder (and they didn't release not 1, not only 1 update!)
And as long as i am flashing and modifying everything i don't find why shouldn't i update my phone to the latest version of this wonderful OS.
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Why shouldn't you? Because it's slow? Have you tested Android 1.6 vs Android 2.2? You don't notice the significant slowdown? Taking 5 seconds to bring up the dialpad?

ok wait wait wait...
Oh well...i dont know if u intend that literally takes 5 seconds...but with the Biff mod it's not THAT slow...
i only joined up in the topic cos i found the phone slow in some occasions but not that it jeopardize the overall use.

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i guess your the two among the fews who didnt get their phones up and running froyo fluently.
checkout the OTA and after that the more bareboners/tweaked roms, read through the corresponding forums, and try to admit that you have to abandon having fancy stuff on yer phone.
as for me im right now running the OTA the one available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
with cpu set 122-614mhz, using modified radio hack to gain +14mb of ram and modified lowmemorykiller values.
ive been running the system since weeks with no hangups,and is snappy az should be.
done these not with with third party apps but adding an initscript that sets these values at boot time WITHOUT needing running yetanother app running.
i dont even have to use compcache.
must mention that i use ADW home manager with only 2 desktops, no dockbar and so, minimized fancy in order to keep its memory consumption low, using only the calendar widget and Quick Settings in notification bar.
i have even found out recently that switching on the animations lets you feel your phone more snappy since it takes your attention while loading or switching between views/screensD
[it does work indeed!]
so snappy and stable that i am afraid of trying new so said tweaked roms like:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825716&page=48
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929678
i guess more and more G1 users/developers are trying to strip down and tweak froyo to get the max out it since this may be the last stable rom available for our devices.
and no, i dont think that our devices are outdated, definitely not for normal day use.
so keep up finding the best way for yours!
cheers
:GY

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First, I apologize if this is an issue that has already been discussed; however, I did look through the stickied threads and didn't find anything that really answered the question I have.
I have tried several different Froyo 2.2 ROMs on my Dream, and they always seem to run a fraction of the speed of Donut ROMs. Loading the home screen, applications, and webpages always seems to take a lot longer, and there just isn't that quickness that Donut has.
Am I doing something wrong? Anyone else have the same experiences?
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You make these claims without telling what roms you've tried.
Have you tried this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620 ??? Because this one *IS FAST*. At least it is when combined with the 2708 memory hack.

I'll surely give it a shot, thank you guys

Thanks for the information guys, I will certainly try these ROMs. I have, by the way, tried standard builds of Froyo, CM6, SuperF, with disappointing results. They worked "OK," but had a fraction of the performance of Donut.

You guys can try my Froyo rom. Only complaints I get is about the Bloatware,lol. No drag, almost like a donut rom in speed. I have over 3000 downloads. The link is on my signature or on the G1 development section. Let me know what you think!

Overclock Kernel for G1 w/ CM6 32B?

I cannot find one... I just want it to be a little more faster, at least overclock to 600-680? I am getting a bigger battery so battery life shouldn't be a problem, I need it to be stable and non buggy.
PLEASE help, I have posted threads here and barely anyone responds. Please and thank you.
HTC Dream(T-Mobile G1) 32B, with CM6.1.

Have you tried here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698578?
By the way, G1's have not been proven very stable much beyond 578mhz.

sisterchick said:
Have you tried here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698578?
By the way, G1's have not been proven very stable much beyond 578mhz.
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I guess I am just looking for a little speed bump and a MAJOR battery improvement, it barely lasts long with OEM battery. From 99 to 80 in a good 30 minutes, the hell?

For battery life on a G1, your best choice right now is Farmatito's kernel. I can go at least 24 hours with either barebones CM 6.1 or Froyo by Laszlo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010932

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For battery life on a G1, your best choice right now is Farmatito's kernel. I can go at least 24 hours with either barebones CM 6.1 or Froyo by Laszlo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010932
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I am using the kernel by ezterry, it's running pretty smoothly, how does this compare?

It is an improvement. Farmatito has managed to squash the usb battery drain bug. In standby, I lose 1% or less an hour. (No wifi, gps or bluetooth).

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It is an improvement. Farmatito has managed to squash the usb battery drain bug. In standby, I lose 1% or less an hour. (No wifi, gps or bluetooth).
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Alright biggest question, what is the most stable Sense ROM, I am talking like it runs as smoothly as you would think it's a new device on the market... I don't care if it has Froyo or Eclaire, it just has to work, as I enjoy eye candy, but I NEED speed. The browser on CM6 is just really slow... I know it's partially because this is a 32B device, but there has to be a better ROM, SPEED I need the fastest speed while still keeping the whole stability and pretty thing.
Any suggestions? Cause' as of now, I don't think I wanna be sticking with CM6 sadly. That and the best kernel you have ever found...and I will be happy
Please and thank you

I have no experience with Sense ROMS. Sorry.
I have been experimenting with just what you are looking for...something fast and stable that best uses my available RAM and meets my needs. I've tried most of the Froyo ROMS and have settled on two: barebones CM 6.1 and barebones Froyo by Laszlo. Right now, I'm running CM6.1.
I've made a script that installs a very tiny Gapps file with just what I need and takes out what I don't, including:
delete("/system/app/Protips.apk", "/system/app/RomManager.apk", "/system/app/CMWallpapers.apk", "/system/app/Facebook.apk", "/system/app/LatinIME.apk", "/system/app/LatinIMETutorial.apk", "/system/app/Twitter.apk", "/system/app/Gallery3D.apk", "/system/app/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk", "/system/app/Music.apk", "/system/app/DSPManager.apk", "/system/app/YouTube.apk", "/system/app/CMStats.apk", "/system/vpnservices.apk", "/system/app/VoiceSearch.apk", "/system/app/VoiceDialer.apk", "/system/app/PicoTts.apk", "/system/app/SpeechRecorder.apk");
I also delete all the ringtones I don't use and use a static bootanimation instead of the CM version. That leaves me with 25-28MB of RAM consistently, running no compache, swap or JIT and all apps internal. I also have custom MTD at 80/2 and have about 45MB of leftover space. Works well for me!

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I have no experience with Sense ROMS. Sorry.
I have been experimenting with just what you are looking for...something fast and stable that best uses my available RAM and meets my needs. I've tried most of the Froyo ROMS and have settled on two: barebones CM 6.1 and barebones Froyo by Laszlo. Right now, I'm running CM6.1.
I've made a script that installs a very tiny Gapps file with just what I need and takes out what I don't, including:
delete("/system/app/Protips.apk", "/system/app/RomManager.apk", "/system/app/CMWallpapers.apk", "/system/app/Facebook.apk", "/system/app/LatinIME.apk", "/system/app/LatinIMETutorial.apk", "/system/app/Twitter.apk", "/system/app/Gallery3D.apk", "/system/app/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk", "/system/app/Music.apk", "/system/app/DSPManager.apk", "/system/app/YouTube.apk", "/system/app/CMStats.apk", "/system/vpnservices.apk", "/system/app/VoiceSearch.apk", "/system/app/VoiceDialer.apk", "/system/app/PicoTts.apk", "/system/app/SpeechRecorder.apk");
I also delete all the ringtones I don't use and use a static bootanimation instead of the CM version. That leaves me with 25-28MB of RAM consistently, running no compache, swap or JIT and all apps internal. I also have custom MTD at 80/2 and have about 45MB of leftover space. Works well for me!
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I removed a lot the apks that you listed, I am sure that I won't notice it too much seeing as I already overclocked to a good 614(don't notice anything wrong). I removed the software keyboard as I already have the Gingerbread keyboard, which is much better in my opinion, plus I already have the hardware keyboard anyways. The File manager was something I didn't need too, already used Astro and Root explorer. Rom Manager is extremely pointless because I don't even have CWM anyways so I couldn't use any of the features in the app. I listen to music a lot, use facebook quite often(even though it works very slow, I use it to sync contacts) and sorta want to keep the youtube app.
Thanks for the advice, if there is anything else, please do tell, because I feel this can go faster.