now to start for reference i may use the following terms
internal storage
internal SD
external SD
please note the difference.
This is also referencing the "official android" apps2sd as well as the other ones i have looked at.
in case you dont know any of the apps to SD methods have 1 goal:
to remove apps from the internal memory to an SD card, allowing more apps to be installed on systems.
most android devices dont have an internal SD, because of this the external SD is the normal place to store Apps to the SD card.
This is also where it stores any extra downloaded files (in case of large games) or user accessible files for apps (docs, themes, game roms, backups, config files) on phones without internal SD.
(All those folders that show up on your internal SD on a captivate.)
Now.... the captivate HAS an internal SD.
As far as i am concerned this was only half implemented correct.
THEY DID CORRECTLY now have the app downloaded files, and user interactive files i mentioned above moved to the internal SD.
THEY DIDNT (IMO) move Apps2sd, to the internal SD where it would make more sense.
- having apps on the any SD causes lag at boot, made further worse on the captivate because it mounts the internal SD, and scans it before it mounts the external SD and scans it, and this is where the apps are!
- also if you remove your external SD, you loose the apps.
- the internal SD is WAY more than enough to "want" to have more apps on more cards...
- this would free up the external SD to be PRIMARILY AND EXCLUSIVELY user files.
and remove the last bit of android files that can be removed by taking out an sdcard...
- the internal SD is a class 6 speed, faster than most external SD cards that most inexperienced users end up using.. class 4 ebay/amazon crap.
can we change this???
i dont see any reason why not, we have all the necessary sources for what handles this.
im not exactly running out of internal storage but some users actually do, and this just seems to make more sense.
any update on this?
From what i know currently about android and our cappy's, heres the info.
1. 1.8 GB of "Internal Phone Storage" is plenty enough for (Apps, Data, Contacts, etc.) . I have 312 apps on my phone and i still have 896 MB left.
2. As far as i know, the "Internal" SD of the captivate is partitioned into system, data, and is also the internal sd that you can put files in. So if it really was a Class 6 , despite the horrifying write speeds, it would make no difference because the "Internal Phone Storage" is a partition of the built in 16 gb of internal sd.
Again, i know nothing about how our phone works, but this is the info i know.
I never come near filling the internal storage, so I would not need this for space saving. But, it would make my weekly ROM flash a lot easier to not even worry about those apps.
Apps2insternalsd is an app I would pay for ... and I am not one to buy apps, less than 5 in the past year.
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Hi,
I just got myself a Nook Color with version 1.2 update and I am planning to root the device from a microSD Card with CM7 or Honeycomb. But before I start, I have two basic queries:
1. Which rooting will give a better and stable web browsing experience - CM7 (Gingerbread) or Honeycomb
2. Can I store and view my personal files (e.g, movies) from the microSD Card which will boot my Nook Color with CM7/Honeycomb? I am very concerned about this, as the Nook Color v1.2 comes with only 1 GB of free space for personal files storage and so I need to store my movies in mircoSD card. At the same time, I don't want to change the stock software thus violating warranty, so I have to root using a microSD card.
I am very new to this, so will appreciate your response very much. Thanks in advance.
Dazed378 said:
Hi,
I just got myself a Nook Color with version 1.2 update and I am planning to root the device from a microSD Card with CM7 or Honeycomb. But before I start, I have two basic queries:
1. Which rooting will give a better and stable web browsing experience - CM7 (Gingerbread) or Honeycomb
2. Can I store and view my personal files (e.g, movies) from the microSD Card which will boot my Nook Color with CM7/Honeycomb? I am very concerned about this, as the Nook Color v1.2 comes with only 1 GB of free space for personal files storage and so I need to store my movies in mircoSD card. At the same time, I don't want to change the stock software thus violating warranty, so I have to root using a microSD card.
I am very new to this, so will appreciate your response very much. Thanks in advance.
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1. Without a doubt cm7. Honeycomb will unfortunately be forever buggy.
2. Yes you can use the left over storage on your SD card for files, music, videos, app etc.
And FYI you can root the internal memory and if you need to return for warranty then you can just return to stock and b&n will not know a thing but if you are going to run off the SD card make sure that it is a sandisk.
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The thing to remember if you want to access the 4th partitiion for storage is that you have to do it while the SD is in the NC. Win xp will only see the first partition which has only about 155 megs.
Thanks a ton! I have few more quick questions.
1. What is the most stable CM7 version for rooting 1.2 version Nook Color as of today?
2. Will the rooted nook be able to play AVI video files? What app I need to download for that?
3. I found that PDF page load is very slow in my Nook Color. What app do you suggest for a good reading experience?
Once again, thanks in anticipation.
1. 7.0.3 is the latest stable version of CM7, however, most people keeps up-to-day with nightly builds.
2. it should, if not, install Rock Player Lite, it plays virtually everthing
3. Either Adobe Reader or Alkido would do the job
Not able to copy files to uSD card which boots CM7
Hey thanks for your all your support. I was able to install CM7.0.3 on my 1 GB uSD card and also installed Adobe Reader and Moboplayer. Everything works fine, except when I connect my NC to my PC, and then turn on USB Mass Storage on NC, I can only explore my Nook Color (showing as F: drive) to copy files. I cannot open/explore my SD card, though the PC shows the uSD card as "Removable Disk (E. When I try open this E: drive, I get the message "Please insert a disk in E: drive".
Also, my NC does not seem to identify the SD card. When I go to Settings -> Storage, it shows total space unavailable under SD card. Even when I open Moboplayer, I get the message "There is no SD card, make sure it is usable". I could only play videos copied to my NC internal memory.
I was told that I can use the leftover space of the uSD card to copy personal files, but I have no success on that front yet :-(. Any idea/suggestions how to fix this issue?
More information:
In my NC Storage Settings, it shows:
1. SD card: Total space unavailable, Available space unavailable.
2. Internal storage: Total space 525 MB, Available space 449 MB
3. Additional storage (emmc): Total space 1 GB, Available space 63.51 MB
Wondering what is 2nd one (Internal storage)? Is that the data partition of my SD card? If yes, how can I copy personal files there?
Did you say you are using a 1GB uSD? IMO, that's way too small for what you want to do. I would recommend either a 4 or 8GB sandisk card to allow you enough space for files and the OS. Remember that this is also your boot disk and the cm7 files are taking up most of the available space on a 1GB card. Just sayin......
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I have ordered for a 16 GB class 4 SanDisk uSD card. I had a 1 GB uSD card at hand, so wanted to test with that first before I receive the 16 GB card. And as I said, I had no prob at all installing CM7.0.3 on the 1 GB card and if I am not wrong the card still has hunderds of MB memory free. My question is why can't I explore the SD card when I connect my NC to PC thru' the USB cable?
Dazed378 said:
I have ordered for a 16 GB class 4 SanDisk uSD card. I had a 1 GB uSD card at hand, so wanted to test with that first before I receive the 16 GB card. And as I said, I had no prob at all installing CM7.0.3 on the 1 GB card and if I am not wrong the card still has hunderds of MB memory free. My question is why can't I explore the SD card when I connect my NC to PC thru' the USB cable?
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I don't recall the specific partition sizing of SASD but I would suspect there is no space available on the uSD after SASD creates the first 3 partitions... thus no partition 4 to be mounted as /sdcard.
Ok, thanks. As a mentioned in couple of posts back, any idea what is the "Internal Storage" of 525 MB total space that shows up in my storage settings? It is different from the emmc storage, because that shows up as the third storage option with 1 GB total space.
Ok - just found this thread and had to ask:
I'm running a stock 1.3 on the eMMC, and CM7.1 on a 16G micro-SD.
When I boot into the stock ROM, I see that my SD is mounted, but that the stock ROM mounted the /boot partition, rather than the /SD Card partition.
Is there a way to set the stock rom to boot /SD Card, or hide the other three from it?
Thanks!
traumadog said:
Ok - just found this thread and had to ask:
I'm running a stock 1.3 on the eMMC, and CM7.1 on a 16G micro-SD.
When I boot into the stock ROM, I see that my SD is mounted, but that the stock ROM mounted the /boot partition, rather than the /SD Card partition.
Is there a way to set the stock rom to boot /SD Card, or hide the other three from it?
Thanks!
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To my knowledge, no, you cannot make the stock OS see any but the boot partition of the SD card. Both stock and your CM7 card can access eMMC storage, but stock can only see the first partition of your card. If you want a stock and a CM7 installation to share one /sdcard partition, you will have to set up a dual boot on internal storage (mine is linked in my sig).
If you just want to have some SD storage available to your stock install, you might be able to stretch the card's /boot partition and store some files in there, but I don't know if your SD install would remain stable. You could always back up your card as a disk image and try it out.
Taosaur said:
To my knowledge, no, you cannot make the stock OS see any but the boot partition of the SD card. Both stock and your CM7 card can access eMMC storage, but stock can only see the first partition of your card. If you want a stock and a CM7 installation to share one /sdcard partition, you will have to set up a dual boot on internal storage (mine is linked in my sig).
If you just want to have some SD storage available to your stock install, you might be able to stretch the card's /boot partition and store some files in there, but I don't know if your SD install would remain stable. You could always back up your card as a disk image and try it out.
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I would also like to know the answer for how to make the /boot partition larger on various images to allow sufficient room when booted from eMMC. I tried doing this with EASEUS Partition Master but it will not let me resize the boot partition. Any other options to solve the issue? The only other options is to swap cards when you know you are booting off eMMC and that is a pain.
hikersc said:
I would also like to know the answer for how to make the /boot partition larger on various images to allow sufficient room when booted from eMMC. I tried doing this with EASEUS Partition Master but it will not let me resize the boot partition. Any other options to solve the issue? The only other options is to swap cards when you know you are booting off eMMC and that is a pain.
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What are you trying to accomplish?
What is your running system?
Why do you want to expand the boot partition?
votinh said:
What are you trying to accomplish?
What is your running system?
Why do you want to expand the boot partition?
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Sorry, I guess that I could have been more clear in what I am trying to do. I have a rooted nook color 1.1. I burned the image for the dualboot phiremod/Honeycomb that is approximately 3.5 Gb. I burned it to an 8 Gb card and then expanded the 7th (/sdcard) partition to use the space which is available when booted to phiremod. When I boot (with the card installed) to eMMC via J4mm3r's u-boot menu, my rooted 1.1 comes up but sees the /boot partition as the SD card. Since it is the /boot partition, it only has 80 Mb free which is not enough for Titanium Backup, etc. If I could make the /boot partition larger (say 2 Gb) then everything would work as desired.
1. I don't use dual boot option so can't help you
2. I don't use either Phiremod nor Honeycomb so can't help you but
a. I think the NC should still the left-over of the uSD card. if not
b. Try using MiniTool Partition wizard to expand the boot partition and see what happens. Not so sure if it allowed to do so.
hikersc said:
Sorry, I guess that I could have been more clear in what I am trying to do. I have a rooted nook color 1.1. I burned the image for the dualboot phiremod/Honeycomb that is approximately 3.5 Gb. I burned it to an 8 Gb card and then expanded the 7th (/sdcard) partition to use the space which is available when booted to phiremod. When I boot (with the card installed) to eMMC via J4mm3r's u-boot menu, my rooted 1.1 comes up but sees the /boot partition as the SD card. Since it is the /boot partition, it only has 80 Mb free which is not enough for Titanium Backup, etc. If I could make the /boot partition larger (say 2 Gb) then everything would work as desired.
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Mmm, I think you maybe just need to make up your mind, or deal with the limitations--have your cake or eat it, because you can't do both. That said, I see no reason EASEUS wouldn't let you expand the boot partition, unless there's just no unallocated space, in which case you need to shrink your storage partition first. I don't know whether your card would boot properly with an expanded boot and random files in there, but you should be able to move the partitions around just fine.
Still, your better bet is to decide what's going to be your primary OS and stick with it. You can even dual-boot from eMMC and have two full OSes, but as long as you're using the SD as a boot drive, you're going to be trading off its ability to serve as storage for your interal OS.
Edit: sorry, didn't realize how old the thread was...was trying to find my info with the forum search. ^^;
In the original post the user asked if you could use the microSD for both booting/rooting and for storage -- when I tried this, I got a "SD Card must be formatted" error in my rooted Nook. I let it rty to format the card (then let Windows format it) and -then- I was able to store on the SD card.
But when I rebooted my Nook Color, it got stuck Infinite-looping the Nook Color splash screen. =\
I'm about to root it again, and I'd like to use the same SD card I use to root to have some storage space on it. I (had) a 4GB microSD card, but because the slot is in the worst place it could possibly be on the device...I've already managed to get it wedged inside the casing. =\ The drive still works but I'd rather not have to worry abotu swapping cards in and out and in and out; maybe I have fatter fingers than It hink, but that SD card slot is a pain in my arse.
What did I do wrong my first go 'round? I had a 4GB card, so I used the 4GB CWM image for it. Is it...really simple, and I need to format it into two partitions in windows; set 1GB aside for the CWM boot disc and the other 3GB would be available for file storage?
1. use SD formatter
2. if you used a 4GB CWM image, did you manually update it to the latest build? If not, just grab the 1GB image in the quote at the top of this thread: updated CWM. If you're planning to wipe it right after, it doesn't matter how big it is.
Also, regarding the OP and my response, I later found this link I'd saved about pointing stock to the storage partition of a CM7 SASD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13668471&postcount=529
I haven't tried it or seen anyone report back after trying it, but there it is if anyone wants to give it a go.
So far I have tried linda, astro, and root explorer.
When I try and click on the sd card it is showing me the 8gig partition share on the phone that is set up for app installs.
None of the file manager programs, besides the stock one on the phone, are properly showing the sd card.
Anyone else notice this?
Working fine for me. Root explorer included
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The internal drive is 16GB
Once formatted to FAT, is gets reduced to just over 15GB
Then the OS is placed on the drive in a separate partition which takes up roughly about 4GB bringing that once 16GB drive down again to about 11GB
The remaining partition is partitioned once again to create an internal storage area similar to the SDCARD partition on the XOOM, as well an an application area where programs are pre-installed to.
That is why your internal storage area says only 8GB
The numbers I used are not exact but are rough estimates.
you just have to look around in it. both sd cards are there. its just not as simple as the stock one. my xoom is the same way.
dellenrules said:
The internal drive is 16GB
Once formatted to FAT, is gets reduced to just over 15GB
Then the OS is placed on the drive in a separate partition which takes up roughly about 4GB bringing that once 16GB drive down again to about 11GB
The remaining partition is partitioned once again to create an internal storage area similar to the SDCARD partition on the XOOM, as well an an application area where programs are pre-installed to.
That is why your internal storage area says only 8GB
The numbers I used are not exact but are rough estimates.
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This is exactly right. Is there a way to use any file managers then? They are all being fooled into thinking the internal storage is the sd card when it obviously isnt.
I have found no setting or way thus far to point the file manager apps to the actual sd card instead of the internal partition.
its a messed up sytem if they gave us more memory then it wouldnt b so bad.
not at the moment. either devoplers will have to modify there apps or a custom rom is needed to remap the memory.
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This is exactly right. Is there a way to use any file managers then? They are all being fooled into thinking the internal storage is the sd card when it obviously isnt.
I have found no setting or way thus far to point the file manager apps to the actual sd card instead of the internal partition.
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I actually found a temporary solution to this.. If you are rooted of course since you need to be to do anything useful on this thing.
I used root explorer for this.
For whatever reason they decided to name the internal memory application partition, to sdcard... This is why the file manager apps are getting confused.
The real sdcard is named sdcard-ext...
So All I did was rename sdcard (which is the internal partition), then I renamed sdcard-ext to sdcard. The file manager programs then pointed towards the actual sdcard..
However, upon reboot the folders renamed themselves back to the way they were... Not sure why they are doing that but they are...
If the folders would stop renaming themselves back the above method would be a solution for this prob.
In addition to the above, I dont know if astro has this feature, but on linda you can create a shortcut to the card and place it as a shortcut directly to the folder.
Wish it was possible to get the source to these apps. Could likely edit it and point it towards the proper folder.
Root explorer will allow you to view everything. If your phone is rooted you could edit them with this app as well.
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The SD Card is actually sd-ext in file managers sdcard is the internal
I was running cm10.1 from a 32gb sdcard. With my games and apps and my daughters games the card was almost full. I decided to install cm10.1 internally on the nook so I figured I would have more storage for apps. I actually have less now. I have the internal space for games now but can only put movies and music which I dont even use on the sdcard. Is there anyway to put applications on the sdcard? There is no move button in apps anymore. Thanks.
jamesban said:
I was running cm10.1 from a 32gb sdcard. With my games and apps and my daughters games the card was almost full. I decided to install cm10.1 internally on the nook so I figured I would have more storage for apps. I actually have less now. I have the internal space for games now but can only put movies and music which I dont even use on the sdcard. Is there anyway to put applications on the sdcard? There is no move button in apps anymore. Thanks.
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You should have much more app storage on with CM10.1 on internal than on SD. How do you figure you have less?
But if you transferred all your media files you had on the SD to internal media, you would have filled up internal space, leaving little space for apps. Apps and media files on internal share the same free space.
You cannot move apps to SD.
One solution is to move as many media files to the external SD (ext_sdcard) as possible, freeing space for apps.
Or another solution is to use my SD swap zip for CM10.1 on my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature (item 4). That makes it so CM10.1 uses the external SD to store media files automatically.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
So if installed cm10.1 internally on my nook replacing the stock nook rom using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
I will have more space for apps then when i ran it from my 32gb card? My nookhd has 8gb internal storage. After Installing the ROM internally to the device and installing games the internal storage keeps going up and my 32gb sd card is still empty as if the games and apps are all installing to the internal 8gb storage and not my card so I have 32 gb of wasted space. I have no desire to put movies and music on my tablet. Also when I go to settings apps theres no way to move games to sdcard anymore. How does it give me more space as you stated? Am I missing something.
jamesban said:
So if installed cm10.1 internally on my nook replacing the stock nook rom using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
I will have more space for apps then when i ran it from my 32gb card? My nookhd has 8gb internal storage. After Installing the ROM internally to the device and installing games the internal storage keeps going up and my 32gb sd card is still empty as if the games and apps are all installing to the internal 8gb storage and not my card so I have 32 gb of wasted space. I have no desire to put movies and music on my tablet. Also when I go to settings apps theres no way to move games to sdcard anymore. How does it give me more space as you stated? Am I missing something.
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On a 32GB SD set up for CM10.1, it is partitioned to allow 2GB for apps and 28 GB for media files (which includes some extra data files that games use, not just movies and music). That 28GB cannot be used for apps themselves.
On your 8GB HD, there is about 6GB available to be shared by apps and media files. That is not much room for apps if you load it up with media files (like game data). But if you were to do the swap zip as I suggested, the games no longer put their media files on internal, but on external. So you would have the full 6GB for apps and a full 32GB (on your external SD) for your media files.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.