SD storage question - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was running cm10.1 from a 32gb sdcard. With my games and apps and my daughters games the card was almost full. I decided to install cm10.1 internally on the nook so I figured I would have more storage for apps. I actually have less now. I have the internal space for games now but can only put movies and music which I dont even use on the sdcard. Is there anyway to put applications on the sdcard? There is no move button in apps anymore. Thanks.

jamesban said:
I was running cm10.1 from a 32gb sdcard. With my games and apps and my daughters games the card was almost full. I decided to install cm10.1 internally on the nook so I figured I would have more storage for apps. I actually have less now. I have the internal space for games now but can only put movies and music which I dont even use on the sdcard. Is there anyway to put applications on the sdcard? There is no move button in apps anymore. Thanks.
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You should have much more app storage on with CM10.1 on internal than on SD. How do you figure you have less?
But if you transferred all your media files you had on the SD to internal media, you would have filled up internal space, leaving little space for apps. Apps and media files on internal share the same free space.
You cannot move apps to SD.
One solution is to move as many media files to the external SD (ext_sdcard) as possible, freeing space for apps.
Or another solution is to use my SD swap zip for CM10.1 on my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature (item 4). That makes it so CM10.1 uses the external SD to store media files automatically.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

So if installed cm10.1 internally on my nook replacing the stock nook rom using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
I will have more space for apps then when i ran it from my 32gb card? My nookhd has 8gb internal storage. After Installing the ROM internally to the device and installing games the internal storage keeps going up and my 32gb sd card is still empty as if the games and apps are all installing to the internal 8gb storage and not my card so I have 32 gb of wasted space. I have no desire to put movies and music on my tablet. Also when I go to settings apps theres no way to move games to sdcard anymore. How does it give me more space as you stated? Am I missing something.

jamesban said:
So if installed cm10.1 internally on my nook replacing the stock nook rom using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
I will have more space for apps then when i ran it from my 32gb card? My nookhd has 8gb internal storage. After Installing the ROM internally to the device and installing games the internal storage keeps going up and my 32gb sd card is still empty as if the games and apps are all installing to the internal 8gb storage and not my card so I have 32 gb of wasted space. I have no desire to put movies and music on my tablet. Also when I go to settings apps theres no way to move games to sdcard anymore. How does it give me more space as you stated? Am I missing something.
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On a 32GB SD set up for CM10.1, it is partitioned to allow 2GB for apps and 28 GB for media files (which includes some extra data files that games use, not just movies and music). That 28GB cannot be used for apps themselves.
On your 8GB HD, there is about 6GB available to be shared by apps and media files. That is not much room for apps if you load it up with media files (like game data). But if you were to do the swap zip as I suggested, the games no longer put their media files on internal, but on external. So you would have the full 6GB for apps and a full 32GB (on your external SD) for your media files.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

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[Q] Storage Space :\

Well i have CM7 on my nook on the storage stats it says mi internal is about 900 and emmc is 5 GB and my sd is 2 GB but its running out of space every thing gets installed there and to the internal but not the emmc how can i use that for apps and stuff and is there a way to divide that space and make the nook think its a SD card so i can take out mine . If i take out the sd i cant open book in the nook app or open the gallery and many apps dont work ?

[Q] phone storage

Hi.
Im running miui rom in my optimus 2x.
I have 3 options to storge.
Phone storage about 1 gb
Sd card storge about 5 gb
And external sd card about 16 gb
The problem is that basically i cant use the external sd card for apps and games,
i try all the move to sd card apps on market and all of tham only move from my phone storage to my sd card, so basically i only have 6gb in my phone.
Is there anyway to move tham to my external??
Tnx.
hmmmmm...
on cm you have an option to do so (settings/cyanogenmod/applications/use external sd for media)
but i don't know if miui has it too. Try looking for something like that
I looked everywhere, there isnt an option like this.
If you don't mind me asking, are you really out of storage to install apps?
Because o2x has an app storage space of 1.5gb excluding the internal 5gb flash memory, and most heavy games will store their game data on the 5gb internal flash mem, and only the basic apk will resides on the app space.
Running out of storage space is really hard achieve since even the heaviest game only consumes like 100mb? Which is mostly stored in the 5gb space. Unless you have hundreds of high end games installed, then you can run out of space .
All the new games need to download between 400-900 mb each, so yeah i runnig out of storge
Alright then, my mistake.
Anyway, I read that to swap sdcard as _externalSD vice versa is via CM7, I am not really sure how because I'm not using it, but I definately read about it before and it is doable. Hopefully someone can help you on the how..
Cheers!
there is a script for miui to swap so your microsd to become /sdcard check the android development
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263311
Tnx alot, that fix my problems.

[Q] How to use App2sd on Nook HD+ or moving apps from internal storage to sd card

If anyone gained success in moving apps from internal storage to expandable memory card :good:
goldenlark said:
If anyone gained success in moving apps from internal storage to expandable memory card :good:
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The GAAPS installed and OTA off using Cyanogen Mode thought not rooted but can sideload apps
goldenlark said:
If anyone gained success in moving apps from internal storage to expandable memory card :good:
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Stock does not have the option to use Apps2sd. But why would you want too? Stock basically has unlimited app storage space as long as you do not load up your internal media SD with media files.
Or were you meaning that you wanted to move apps installed on stock to your SD installation of CM? Apps2SD does not accomplish that. You must manually copy them from stock to CM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
Stock does not have the option to use Apps2sd. But why would you want too? Stock basically has unlimited app storage space as long as you do not load up your internal media SD with media files.
Or were you meaning that you wanted to move apps installed on stock to your SD installation of CM? Apps2SD does not accomplish that. You must manually copy them from stock to CM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Hi Larry hope you doing good. I am running CM10 on my nook HD+ thus could sideload apps but I didnt rooted it (Following the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 performed the point 1. and 3. and skipped 2.) . I installed certain games like NFS: Most Wanted which are extremely big almost 2 GBs and so others. Is it possible that if I can move them on the external SD card as they are currently installed on the inbuilt memory.
goldenlark said:
Hi Larry hope you doing good. I am running CM10 on my nook HD+ thus could sideload apps but I didnt rooted it (Following the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 performed the point 1. and 3. and skipped 2.) . I installed certain games like NFS: Most Wanted which are extremely big almost 2 GBs and so others. Is it possible that if I can move them on the external SD card as they are currently installed on the inbuilt memory.
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You are talking a little apples and oranges (stock and CM10).
If you followed the instructions in that thread, you installed those things to stock, as that is what those zips do.
CM10 is already rooted. If you wanted gapps on CM10, you needed to flash the gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip from goo.im. Use the CWM from the SD install to install them.
If you installed that game on stock, then what I said earlier about internal memory still applies. It has a huge area to install apps. No need to use Apps2sd.
If you installed the game to CM10, then the app is installed on the SD /data partition. But that is only 2GB. So that game would have trouble with CM10. But CM10 has apps2sd built in and you can move the game from the SD /data partition to the SD CM10SDCARD partition. Just go to settings, applications and pick that app and say to move to SD. It will move it from what it calls internal memory (but is really the SD /data partition), to SD (which is really the CM10SDCARD partition).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
You are talking a little apples and oranges (stock and CM10).
If you followed the instructions in that thread, you installed those things to stock, as that is what those zips do.
CM10 is already rooted. If you wanted gapps on CM10, you needed to flash the gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip from goo.im. Use the CWM from the SD install to install them.
If you installed that game on stock, then what I said earlier about internal memory still applies. It has a huge area to install apps. No need to use Apps2sd.
If you installed the game to CM10, then the app is installed on the SD /data partition. But that is only 2GB. So that game would have trouble with CM10. But CM10 has apps2sd built in and you can move the game from the SD /data partition to the SD CM10SDCARD partition. Just go to settings, applications and pick that app and say to move to SD. It will move it from what it calls internal memory (but is really the SD /data partition), to SD (which is really the CM10SDCARD partition).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Okay I think I am getting little confused. I am not running CM10 on my Nook HD+. What I did actually is or have is (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613): following this thread I entered into Clockworkmod (CWM) Recovery and then flashed (Gapps/Play Store + Extras (rev2 - 2/3/2013) ) into CWM.
Thats all. I didnt flash the zip for rooting the device. Now I have access to the file browser and permission to install apks. And I am using it happily. But when I install the apk it gets installed in the device internal memory, the 32GB model. Thus it gets installed there but not to the external 16 GB memory card that I have inserted.
Going to the application manager doesnt shows with the option to move it to SD card. This is what I see. I am attaching the screenshot for so to avoid confusion.
goldenlark said:
Okay I think I am getting little confused. I am not running CM10 on my Nook HD+. What I did actually is or have is (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613): following this thread I entered into Clockworkmod (CWM) Recovery and then flashed (Gapps/Play Store + Extras (rev2 - 2/3/2013) ) into CWM.
Thats all. I didnt flash the zip for rooting the device. Now I have access to the file browser and permission to install apks. And I am using it happily. But when I install the apk it gets installed in the device internal memory, the 32GB model. Thus it gets installed there but not to the external 16 GB memory card that I have inserted.
Going to the application manager doesnt shows with the option to move it to SD card. This is what I see. I am attaching the screenshot for so to avoid confusion.
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And this SD card listed in the screenshot is actual Nooks Memory but not that of external SD card. The apps are treating device internal memory as the SD card memory
Well, as I have said to you many times, stock does not have apps2sd capability. But it can use most of that 32GB to install that huge app. As long as you have not loaded up your media sdcard with media files, you should have plenty of room. If you have it loaded up, move some of that to external sdcard.
Edit: some apps are hard coded to try to install to SD with apps2sd. That may be the issue (Edit: it is not). It definitely says it loaded it to SD (edit: not). One thing you could try is my swap SD zip so that the external SD becomes SDCARD.
And your third post said you were running CM10.
Edit2: that SD card number just means that it has 2GB of data that it uses on sdcard, not that it is installed to sdcard. The app itself is only 30MB. So if you do not want the app using 2GB of your internal media file space, do the swap I mentioned above.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
Well, as I have said to you many times, stock does not have apps2sd capability. But it can use most of that 32GB to install that huge app. As long as you have not loaded up your media sdcard with media files, you should have plenty of room. If you have it loaded up, move some of that to external sdcard.
Edit: some apps are hard coded to try to install to SD with apps2sd. That may be the issue (Edit: it is not). It definitely says it loaded it to SD (edit: not). One thing you could try is my swap SD zip so that the external SD becomes SDCARD.
And your third post said you were running CM10.
Edit2: that SD card number just means that it has 2GB of data that it uses on sdcard, not that it is installed to sdcard. The app itself is only 30MB. So if you do not want the app using 2GB of your internal media file space, do the swap I mentioned above.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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I think I understood it. Thanks man. But if i perform a swap by flashing sd card zip. Will I be able to install in future the apps on internal memory or will this capability be gone forever? and in future after performing this flash, I can only install apps on external sd card. ?
goldenlark said:
I think I understood it. Thanks man. But if i perform a swap by flashing sd card zip. Will I be able to install in future the apps on internal memory or will this capability be gone forever? and in future after performing this flash, I can only install apps on external sd card. ?
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The swap has nothing to do with where the apps get installed. You misunderstand. They still always get installed to internal. All this changes is where the apps store their data. By default apps install their data (media files and helper data files like that app does) to SDCARD. And on stock, SDCARD is the internal sdcard. The external SD is called ext_sdcard and apps don't use it. All my swap does is make the external card be SDCARD and the internal sdcard be ext_sdcard.
So if you uninstall that app, do the swap, reboot, then reinstall the app, the 30MB app still gets put on internal and the 2 GB of helper files get put on your external SD.
If you want to understand how the swap changes things, go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread and read about it.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
The swap has nothing to do with where the apps get installed. You misunderstand. They still always get installed to internal. All this changes is where the apps store their data. By default apps install their data (media files and helper data files like that app does) to SDCARD. And on stock, SDCARD is the internal sdcard. The external SD is called ext_sdcard and apps don't use it. All my swap does is make the external card be SDCARD and the internal sdcard be ext_sdcard.
So if you uninstall that app, do the swap, reboot, then reinstall the app, the 30MB app still gets put on internal and the 2 GB of helper files get put on your external SD.
If you want to understand how the swap changes things, go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread and read about it.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Ohhh yesss. I think I understood it thanks friend
leapinlar said:
Stock does not have the option to use Apps2sd. But why would you want too? Stock basically has unlimited app storage space as long as you do not load up your internal media SD with media files.
Or were you meaning that you wanted to move apps installed on stock to your SD installation of CM? Apps2SD does not accomplish that. You must manually copy them from stock to CM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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So I rooted my nook hd and i have 2 questions, is there any way to move the data of my apps to my ext_sdcard now that i have rooted? I tried an app2sd app but it said my device does not have this capability. Also is your version of verygreen's CM10.1 compatible with the 7 inch nook hd? because it only sayd HDplus. Thank you, i hope you respond.
zamplifier said:
So I rooted my nook hd and i have 2 questions, is there any way to move the data of my apps to my ext_sdcard now that i have rooted? I tried an app2sd app but it said my device does not have this capability. Also is your version of verygreen's CM10.1 compatible with the 7 inch nook hd? because it only sayd HDplus. Thank you, i hope you respond.
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When you say you have rooted your HD, do you mean you have rooted stock so that it has root access, or do you mean you replaced stock with CM10.1?
And what do you mean my version of verygreen's CM10.1? I don't have a version of CM10.1. Or did you mean my swap zip?
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@leapinlar
I'm using Unofficial Carbon JB3 on a Nook HD+ 16GB. Settings | Apps | <select app> doesn't show any option to move apps to SD.
App Mgr III when installed says:
The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated.
Moving app to SD function cannot be supported by this device.
Have you seen or used the App 2 SD option on a Nook HD+?
Alternatively I'd like to use your sdcard / ext_sdcard swap utility. If I do I'd like to move everything currently in the sdcard folder to my actual external SD card. Would this be a good way of doing that?:
1) Copy sdcard contents to ext_sdcard
2) Run utility
3) Delete ext_card contents
MossyTC said:
@leapinlar
I'm using Unofficial Carbon JB3 on a Nook HD+ 16GB. Settings | Apps | doesn't show any option to move apps to SD.
App Mgr III when installed says:
The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated.
Moving app to SD function cannot be supported by this device.
Have you seen or used the App 2 SD option on a Nook HD+?
Alternatively I'd like to use your sdcard / ext_sdcard swap utility. If I do I'd like to move everything currently in the sdcard folder to my actual external SD card. Would this be a good way of doing that?:
1) Copy sdcard contents to ext_sdcard
2) Run utility
3) Delete ext_card contents
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Yes, follow those steps.
And app2sd positively does not work on the HD/HD+. And the reason it does not is the reason stated in the message, emulated storage. I don't know what the app would say after you ran my swap. Probably the same thing.
But be warned I have the CM10 swap set so it only will install on official CM builds.
Sent from my BNNookHDplus using XDA Premium HD app

Nook HD+, CM10.1, no internal memory (above 2gig)

I installed Verygreen's latest sd card update (5/12) and when I go into setup and look at storage, I only see the 2 gig, not the 32 gig internal memory. I hadn't seen anyone else with this problem.
grover451 said:
I installed Verygreen's latest sd card update (5/12) and when I go into setup and look at storage, I only see the 2 gig, not the 32 gig internal memory. I hadn't seen anyone else with this problem.
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That listing of internal memory is really the /data partition on the SD, not real internal memory. Your 32GB is listed under the other internal memory listing for internal SD.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
No internal memory (above 2 gig)
I'm looking in the settings app. Under storage, there is only listed Internal storage (1.97 gb) and SD card (12.5 GB). The sd card is 16 gb. There is no other internal memory listing nor an internal SD listing.
leapinlar said:
That listing of internal memory is really the /data partition on the SD, not real internal memory. Your 32GB is listed under the other internal memory listing for internal SD.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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grover451 said:
I'm looking in the settings app. Under storage, there is only listed Internal storage (1.97 gb) and SD card (12.5 GB). The sd card is 16 gb. There is no other internal memory listing nor an internal SD listing.
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It does not matter what system setting says. That was set up for running devices on internal memory, not SD. So the 1.97 is still your /data on SD, not the real internal memory. So look at sdcard with your file manager and you will see your external SD size. Look at emmc with file manager and it will show your internal media size (should be large). Since you are running on SD, /data is on SD and that confuses the CM settings readings.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
CM10.1, no internal memory (above 2 gigs)
Ok, I do see the capacity (27 g) when I'm in file manager, I just can't seem to find the directory.
grover451 said:
I'm looking in the settings app. Under storage, there is only listed Internal storage (1.97 gb) and SD card (12.5 GB). The sd card is 16 gb. There is no other internal memory listing nor an internal SD listing.
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grover451 said:
Ok, I do see the capacity (27 g) when I'm in file manager, I just can't seem to find the directory.
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What directory?
The issue you may be having is CM10.1 uses profiles, so they only give you a folder in internal media for your use. If you go to /int-data/media, you will see the entire media section that stock gives you. If you look there you will see a 0 folder, which is what CM10.1 lets you see as emmc for the primary user. If you add a second user, he gets a 10 folder. But you get the full capacity, just you don't see all the stock folders.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
CM10.1, no internal memory (above 2 gigs)
Ok, I finally downloaded a file manager that would let me see the /int-data folder. I went into the terminal and saw that the permission on this folder is set to --x for user.
I understand why android is setup this way, where the each user has his own folders, but there should be a default/initial user for the BN version that has read/write access to that folder.
leapinlar said:
What directory?
The issue you may be having is CM10.1 uses profiles, so they only give you a folder in internal media for your use. If you go to /int-data/media, you will see the entire media section that stock gives you. If you look there you will see a 0 folder, which is what CM10.1 lets you see as emmc for the primary user. If you add a second user, he gets a 10 folder. But you get the full capacity, just you don't see all the stock folders.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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leapinlar said:
It does not matter what system setting says. That was set up for running devices on internal memory, not SD. So the 1.97 is still your /data on SD, not the real internal memory. So look at sdcard with your file manager and you will see your external SD size. Look at emmc with file manager and it will show your internal media size (should be large). Since you are running on SD, /data is on SD and that confuses the CM settings readings.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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How do I expand this internal memory to use the full SD card capacity? I can only load apps up to 1.97GB, but have 26GB free on the SD card.
Thanks.
mysbca said:
How do I expand this internal memory to use the full SD card capacity? I can only load apps up to 1.97GB, but have 26GB free on the SD card.
Thanks.
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You have three options.
The easiest is to just use settings/apps to move each app to SD. That puts the app on the media part of the SD (the 26GB) and frees up a lot of the 1.97GB on the SD.
A more difficult option is to use partitioning software to increase the size of partition 3 on the SD (the 1.97).
Another easier option is to use my Hybrid system linked in my signature. It puts all the apps on real internal memory (very large, not limited to 1.97).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Same Issue with SD patition.. can't move
leapinlar said:
You have three options.
The easiest is to just use settings/apps to move each app to SD. That puts the app on the media part of the SD (the 26GB) and frees up a lot of the 1.97GB on the SD.
A more difficult option is to use partitioning software to increase the size of partition 3 on the SD (the 1.97).
Another easier option is to use my Hybrid system linked in my signature. It puts all the apps on real internal memory (very large, not limited to 1.97).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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--- Question: I have this same issue. I'm on 5/12 CM10.1 SD install. I have had other ROMs let you move the APPS to SD but no option in this build? I have 2gig for CM10.1 for everything. I have 12 gig free on SC CARD Partition? Ideas? Maybe I need to move to Hybrid version? Kinda weird why we have the SD partition but can't use it. Smooth so far though!
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--- Question: I have this same issue. I'm on 5/12 CM10.1 SD install. I have had other ROMs let you move the APPS to SD but no option in this build? I have 2gig for CM10.1 for everything. I have 12 gig free on SC CARD Partition? Ideas? Maybe I need to move to Hybrid version? Kinda weird why we have the SD partition but can't use it. Smooth so far though!
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Hmm. I had not realized that option had not been activated in this ROM. Yes then, Hybrid is your next best option.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Same issue with small 2gig space
grover451 said:
I installed Verygreen's latest sd card update (5/12) and when I go into setup and look at storage, I only see the 2 gig, not the 32 gig internal memory. I hadn't seen anyone else with this problem.
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Did you find a solution? I have the same issue. I ran out of room with just 2gig...
Rpimcguirk said:
Did you find a solution? I have the same issue. I ran out of room with just 2gig...
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The solutions are in my post a few days ago. Did you read the thread?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

is there a way to intall games and apps on external sd card?

I have cm 10.2 on right now but with the safestrap limititations of 3gb i need more space for y games... any mods to use my external sd card as my storage for apps and games

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