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[Q] Can I Store Files and Boot from the Same microSD Card?

Hi,
I just got myself a Nook Color with version 1.2 update and I am planning to root the device from a microSD Card with CM7 or Honeycomb. But before I start, I have two basic queries:
1. Which rooting will give a better and stable web browsing experience - CM7 (Gingerbread) or Honeycomb
2. Can I store and view my personal files (e.g, movies) from the microSD Card which will boot my Nook Color with CM7/Honeycomb? I am very concerned about this, as the Nook Color v1.2 comes with only 1 GB of free space for personal files storage and so I need to store my movies in mircoSD card. At the same time, I don't want to change the stock software thus violating warranty, so I have to root using a microSD card.
I am very new to this, so will appreciate your response very much. Thanks in advance.

Dazed378 said:
Hi,
I just got myself a Nook Color with version 1.2 update and I am planning to root the device from a microSD Card with CM7 or Honeycomb. But before I start, I have two basic queries:
1. Which rooting will give a better and stable web browsing experience - CM7 (Gingerbread) or Honeycomb
2. Can I store and view my personal files (e.g, movies) from the microSD Card which will boot my Nook Color with CM7/Honeycomb? I am very concerned about this, as the Nook Color v1.2 comes with only 1 GB of free space for personal files storage and so I need to store my movies in mircoSD card. At the same time, I don't want to change the stock software thus violating warranty, so I have to root using a microSD card.
I am very new to this, so will appreciate your response very much. Thanks in advance.
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1. Without a doubt cm7. Honeycomb will unfortunately be forever buggy.
2. Yes you can use the left over storage on your SD card for files, music, videos, app etc.
And FYI you can root the internal memory and if you need to return for warranty then you can just return to stock and b&n will not know a thing but if you are going to run off the SD card make sure that it is a sandisk.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

The thing to remember if you want to access the 4th partitiion for storage is that you have to do it while the SD is in the NC. Win xp will only see the first partition which has only about 155 megs.

Thanks a ton! I have few more quick questions.
1. What is the most stable CM7 version for rooting 1.2 version Nook Color as of today?
2. Will the rooted nook be able to play AVI video files? What app I need to download for that?
3. I found that PDF page load is very slow in my Nook Color. What app do you suggest for a good reading experience?
Once again, thanks in anticipation.

1. 7.0.3 is the latest stable version of CM7, however, most people keeps up-to-day with nightly builds.
2. it should, if not, install Rock Player Lite, it plays virtually everthing
3. Either Adobe Reader or Alkido would do the job

Not able to copy files to uSD card which boots CM7
Hey thanks for your all your support. I was able to install CM7.0.3 on my 1 GB uSD card and also installed Adobe Reader and Moboplayer. Everything works fine, except when I connect my NC to my PC, and then turn on USB Mass Storage on NC, I can only explore my Nook Color (showing as F: drive) to copy files. I cannot open/explore my SD card, though the PC shows the uSD card as "Removable Disk (E. When I try open this E: drive, I get the message "Please insert a disk in E: drive".
Also, my NC does not seem to identify the SD card. When I go to Settings -> Storage, it shows total space unavailable under SD card. Even when I open Moboplayer, I get the message "There is no SD card, make sure it is usable". I could only play videos copied to my NC internal memory.
I was told that I can use the leftover space of the uSD card to copy personal files, but I have no success on that front yet :-(. Any idea/suggestions how to fix this issue?

More information:
In my NC Storage Settings, it shows:
1. SD card: Total space unavailable, Available space unavailable.
2. Internal storage: Total space 525 MB, Available space 449 MB
3. Additional storage (emmc): Total space 1 GB, Available space 63.51 MB
Wondering what is 2nd one (Internal storage)? Is that the data partition of my SD card? If yes, how can I copy personal files there?

Did you say you are using a 1GB uSD? IMO, that's way too small for what you want to do. I would recommend either a 4 or 8GB sandisk card to allow you enough space for files and the OS. Remember that this is also your boot disk and the cm7 files are taking up most of the available space on a 1GB card. Just sayin......
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I have ordered for a 16 GB class 4 SanDisk uSD card. I had a 1 GB uSD card at hand, so wanted to test with that first before I receive the 16 GB card. And as I said, I had no prob at all installing CM7.0.3 on the 1 GB card and if I am not wrong the card still has hunderds of MB memory free. My question is why can't I explore the SD card when I connect my NC to PC thru' the USB cable?

Dazed378 said:
I have ordered for a 16 GB class 4 SanDisk uSD card. I had a 1 GB uSD card at hand, so wanted to test with that first before I receive the 16 GB card. And as I said, I had no prob at all installing CM7.0.3 on the 1 GB card and if I am not wrong the card still has hunderds of MB memory free. My question is why can't I explore the SD card when I connect my NC to PC thru' the USB cable?
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I don't recall the specific partition sizing of SASD but I would suspect there is no space available on the uSD after SASD creates the first 3 partitions... thus no partition 4 to be mounted as /sdcard.

Ok, thanks. As a mentioned in couple of posts back, any idea what is the "Internal Storage" of 525 MB total space that shows up in my storage settings? It is different from the emmc storage, because that shows up as the third storage option with 1 GB total space.

Ok - just found this thread and had to ask:
I'm running a stock 1.3 on the eMMC, and CM7.1 on a 16G micro-SD.
When I boot into the stock ROM, I see that my SD is mounted, but that the stock ROM mounted the /boot partition, rather than the /SD Card partition.
Is there a way to set the stock rom to boot /SD Card, or hide the other three from it?
Thanks!

traumadog said:
Ok - just found this thread and had to ask:
I'm running a stock 1.3 on the eMMC, and CM7.1 on a 16G micro-SD.
When I boot into the stock ROM, I see that my SD is mounted, but that the stock ROM mounted the /boot partition, rather than the /SD Card partition.
Is there a way to set the stock rom to boot /SD Card, or hide the other three from it?
Thanks!
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To my knowledge, no, you cannot make the stock OS see any but the boot partition of the SD card. Both stock and your CM7 card can access eMMC storage, but stock can only see the first partition of your card. If you want a stock and a CM7 installation to share one /sdcard partition, you will have to set up a dual boot on internal storage (mine is linked in my sig).
If you just want to have some SD storage available to your stock install, you might be able to stretch the card's /boot partition and store some files in there, but I don't know if your SD install would remain stable. You could always back up your card as a disk image and try it out.

Taosaur said:
To my knowledge, no, you cannot make the stock OS see any but the boot partition of the SD card. Both stock and your CM7 card can access eMMC storage, but stock can only see the first partition of your card. If you want a stock and a CM7 installation to share one /sdcard partition, you will have to set up a dual boot on internal storage (mine is linked in my sig).
If you just want to have some SD storage available to your stock install, you might be able to stretch the card's /boot partition and store some files in there, but I don't know if your SD install would remain stable. You could always back up your card as a disk image and try it out.
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I would also like to know the answer for how to make the /boot partition larger on various images to allow sufficient room when booted from eMMC. I tried doing this with EASEUS Partition Master but it will not let me resize the boot partition. Any other options to solve the issue? The only other options is to swap cards when you know you are booting off eMMC and that is a pain.

hikersc said:
I would also like to know the answer for how to make the /boot partition larger on various images to allow sufficient room when booted from eMMC. I tried doing this with EASEUS Partition Master but it will not let me resize the boot partition. Any other options to solve the issue? The only other options is to swap cards when you know you are booting off eMMC and that is a pain.
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What are you trying to accomplish?
What is your running system?
Why do you want to expand the boot partition?

votinh said:
What are you trying to accomplish?
What is your running system?
Why do you want to expand the boot partition?
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Sorry, I guess that I could have been more clear in what I am trying to do. I have a rooted nook color 1.1. I burned the image for the dualboot phiremod/Honeycomb that is approximately 3.5 Gb. I burned it to an 8 Gb card and then expanded the 7th (/sdcard) partition to use the space which is available when booted to phiremod. When I boot (with the card installed) to eMMC via J4mm3r's u-boot menu, my rooted 1.1 comes up but sees the /boot partition as the SD card. Since it is the /boot partition, it only has 80 Mb free which is not enough for Titanium Backup, etc. If I could make the /boot partition larger (say 2 Gb) then everything would work as desired.

1. I don't use dual boot option so can't help you
2. I don't use either Phiremod nor Honeycomb so can't help you but
a. I think the NC should still the left-over of the uSD card. if not
b. Try using MiniTool Partition wizard to expand the boot partition and see what happens. Not so sure if it allowed to do so.

hikersc said:
Sorry, I guess that I could have been more clear in what I am trying to do. I have a rooted nook color 1.1. I burned the image for the dualboot phiremod/Honeycomb that is approximately 3.5 Gb. I burned it to an 8 Gb card and then expanded the 7th (/sdcard) partition to use the space which is available when booted to phiremod. When I boot (with the card installed) to eMMC via J4mm3r's u-boot menu, my rooted 1.1 comes up but sees the /boot partition as the SD card. Since it is the /boot partition, it only has 80 Mb free which is not enough for Titanium Backup, etc. If I could make the /boot partition larger (say 2 Gb) then everything would work as desired.
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Mmm, I think you maybe just need to make up your mind, or deal with the limitations--have your cake or eat it, because you can't do both. That said, I see no reason EASEUS wouldn't let you expand the boot partition, unless there's just no unallocated space, in which case you need to shrink your storage partition first. I don't know whether your card would boot properly with an expanded boot and random files in there, but you should be able to move the partitions around just fine.
Still, your better bet is to decide what's going to be your primary OS and stick with it. You can even dual-boot from eMMC and have two full OSes, but as long as you're using the SD as a boot drive, you're going to be trading off its ability to serve as storage for your interal OS.

Edit: sorry, didn't realize how old the thread was...was trying to find my info with the forum search. ^^;
In the original post the user asked if you could use the microSD for both booting/rooting and for storage -- when I tried this, I got a "SD Card must be formatted" error in my rooted Nook. I let it rty to format the card (then let Windows format it) and -then- I was able to store on the SD card.
But when I rebooted my Nook Color, it got stuck Infinite-looping the Nook Color splash screen. =\
I'm about to root it again, and I'd like to use the same SD card I use to root to have some storage space on it. I (had) a 4GB microSD card, but because the slot is in the worst place it could possibly be on the device...I've already managed to get it wedged inside the casing. =\ The drive still works but I'd rather not have to worry abotu swapping cards in and out and in and out; maybe I have fatter fingers than It hink, but that SD card slot is a pain in my arse.
What did I do wrong my first go 'round? I had a 4GB card, so I used the 4GB CWM image for it. Is it...really simple, and I need to format it into two partitions in windows; set 1GB aside for the CWM boot disc and the other 3GB would be available for file storage?

1. use SD formatter
2. if you used a 4GB CWM image, did you manually update it to the latest build? If not, just grab the 1GB image in the quote at the top of this thread: updated CWM. If you're planning to wipe it right after, it doesn't matter how big it is.
Also, regarding the OP and my response, I later found this link I'd saved about pointing stock to the storage partition of a CM7 SASD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13668471&postcount=529
I haven't tried it or seen anyone report back after trying it, but there it is if anyone wants to give it a go.

[Q] Nook HD running CM10.1 on SDcard

I've just read the thread of [Nook HD] CM10/10.1 development (sdcard) updated CM10.1 1/31, looking for help with some question.
My device is Nook HD updated to 2.0.6.
I've followed the instruction in the thread,
- mad a bootable SD with a 32GB SDHC and [sdcard-cwm-hummingbirdv4.zip] (after writing with win32diskimager, the SD becomes the size only few MB).
- saved the file [cm-10.1-20130130-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip] under the root of the internal sdcard of nook.
- insert bootable SD and reboot.
after rebooted, all functions including settings, wifi and apps are running well.
However, it becomes much slower than its origin OS, sometimes when I point a icon, it takes few seconds to react and continue.
Besides the storage is a bit strange: there are two "internal storage"
- one has 1.88GB for all the apps and Cached data;
- the other one has12.67GB but can't be use at all.
and also a SDcard with 26.5GB (my sdcard was 32GB but after writing bootable image, it becomes totally of only few MB)
Are those every thing normal to the progress now, or it just happened on mine?
Specially wondering that why the internal storage becomes smaller and there is a 26.5GB SDcard? (my nook is 16GB version and ext-SDcard has no more left after writing image file) what is that "no using 12.67GB"?
I am waiting reply of answer and Thank you very much!

唐幸子 said:
I've just read the thread of [Nook HD] CM10/10.1 development (sdcard) updated CM10.1 1/31, looking for help with some question.
My device is Nook HD updated to 2.0.6.
I've followed the instruction in the thread,
- mad a bootable SD with a 32GB SDHC and [sdcard-cwm-hummingbirdv4.zip] (after writing with win32diskimager, the SD becomes the size only few MB).
- saved the file [cm-10.1-20130130-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip] under the root of the internal sdcard of nook.
- insert bootable SD and reboot.
after rebooted, all functions including settings, wifi and apps are running well.
However, it becomes much slower than its origin OS, sometimes when I point a icon, it takes few seconds to react and continue.
Besides the storage is a bit strange: there are two "internal storage"
- one has 1.88GB for all the apps and Cached data;
- the other one has12.67GB but can't be use at all.
and also a SDcard with 26.5GB (my sdcard was 32GB but after writing bootable image, it becomes totally of only few MB)
Are those every thing normal to the progress now, or it just happened on mine?
Specially wondering that why the internal storage becomes smaller and there is a 26.5GB SDcard? (my nook is 16GB version and ext-SDcard has no more left after writing image file) what is that "no using 12.67GB"?
I am waiting reply of answer and Thank you very much!
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The problem is your SD card. You say it is 32GB but you don't say the brand or class. It needs to be SanDisk class 4. If you have a bad brand it will run very slowly.
And your SD should look smaller in the PC after making the card. Most of the storage is in a partition that windows cannot see if the card is inserted into the PC. Your nook should see it though as sdcard. That is what you are seeing as 26.5. And that 12.7 you are seeing is internal media storage and is usable as the emmc folder. The 1.88 is your /data partition and is used to store your installed apps.
So everything is right, you are just using a bad SD card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

Thank you so much for answering!
leapinlar said:
The problem is your SD card. You say it is 32GB but you don't say the brand or class. It needs to be SanDisk class 4. If you have a bad brand it will run very slowly.
And your SD should look smaller in the PC after making the card. Most of the storage is in a partition that windows cannot see if the card is inserted into the PC. Your nook should see it though as sdcard. That is what you are seeing as 26.5. And that 12.7 you are seeing is internal media storage and is usable as the emmc folder. The 1.88 is your /data partition and is used to store your installed apps.
So everything is right, you are just using a bad SD card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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It's really helpful, thank you.
I'm using Kingston micro sd c4 32GB, is that why so slow?
And, only 1.88 for apps, will that be easily filled up with those apps which can not be move in to sdcard? Is there any way use the internal storage of 12.7G?

唐幸子 said:
It's really helpful, thank you.
I'm using Kingston micro sd c4 32GB, is that why so slow?
And, only 1.88 for apps, will that be easily filled up with those apps which can not be move in to sdcard? Is there any way use the internal storage of 12.7G?
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Yes that card is probably the problem.
And 1.88 is a lot for apps, but if you need more, CM10 lets you move apps to SD, which would put them on the 26.5 sdcard.
The other 12.7 can only be used for media.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

Im using the same card as you and have the same issue. Wish I would have know Oh well im off to get another card tonight. i found a thread somewhere that said the sandisks work well and that the transcend C10 32G works very well.
唐幸子 said:
It's really helpful, thank you.
I'm using Kingston micro sd c4 32GB, is that why so slow?
And, only 1.88 for apps, will that be easily filled up with those apps which can not be move in to sdcard? Is there any way use the internal storage of 12.7G?
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jamesban said:
Im using the same card as you and have the same issue. Wish I would have know Oh well im off to get another card tonight. i found a thread somewhere that said the sandisks work well and that the transcend C10 32G works very well.
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You must use the hybrid method if you want to use the internal storage
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I just switched to a 32gb sandisk c4 and its working great now!

[Q] How to use App2sd on Nook HD+ or moving apps from internal storage to sd card

If anyone gained success in moving apps from internal storage to expandable memory card :good:

goldenlark said:
If anyone gained success in moving apps from internal storage to expandable memory card :good:
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The GAAPS installed and OTA off using Cyanogen Mode thought not rooted but can sideload apps

goldenlark said:
If anyone gained success in moving apps from internal storage to expandable memory card :good:
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Stock does not have the option to use Apps2sd. But why would you want too? Stock basically has unlimited app storage space as long as you do not load up your internal media SD with media files.
Or were you meaning that you wanted to move apps installed on stock to your SD installation of CM? Apps2SD does not accomplish that. You must manually copy them from stock to CM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

leapinlar said:
Stock does not have the option to use Apps2sd. But why would you want too? Stock basically has unlimited app storage space as long as you do not load up your internal media SD with media files.
Or were you meaning that you wanted to move apps installed on stock to your SD installation of CM? Apps2SD does not accomplish that. You must manually copy them from stock to CM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Hi Larry hope you doing good. I am running CM10 on my nook HD+ thus could sideload apps but I didnt rooted it (Following the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 performed the point 1. and 3. and skipped 2.) . I installed certain games like NFS: Most Wanted which are extremely big almost 2 GBs and so others. Is it possible that if I can move them on the external SD card as they are currently installed on the inbuilt memory.

goldenlark said:
Hi Larry hope you doing good. I am running CM10 on my nook HD+ thus could sideload apps but I didnt rooted it (Following the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 performed the point 1. and 3. and skipped 2.) . I installed certain games like NFS: Most Wanted which are extremely big almost 2 GBs and so others. Is it possible that if I can move them on the external SD card as they are currently installed on the inbuilt memory.
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You are talking a little apples and oranges (stock and CM10).
If you followed the instructions in that thread, you installed those things to stock, as that is what those zips do.
CM10 is already rooted. If you wanted gapps on CM10, you needed to flash the gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip from goo.im. Use the CWM from the SD install to install them.
If you installed that game on stock, then what I said earlier about internal memory still applies. It has a huge area to install apps. No need to use Apps2sd.
If you installed the game to CM10, then the app is installed on the SD /data partition. But that is only 2GB. So that game would have trouble with CM10. But CM10 has apps2sd built in and you can move the game from the SD /data partition to the SD CM10SDCARD partition. Just go to settings, applications and pick that app and say to move to SD. It will move it from what it calls internal memory (but is really the SD /data partition), to SD (which is really the CM10SDCARD partition).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

leapinlar said:
You are talking a little apples and oranges (stock and CM10).
If you followed the instructions in that thread, you installed those things to stock, as that is what those zips do.
CM10 is already rooted. If you wanted gapps on CM10, you needed to flash the gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip from goo.im. Use the CWM from the SD install to install them.
If you installed that game on stock, then what I said earlier about internal memory still applies. It has a huge area to install apps. No need to use Apps2sd.
If you installed the game to CM10, then the app is installed on the SD /data partition. But that is only 2GB. So that game would have trouble with CM10. But CM10 has apps2sd built in and you can move the game from the SD /data partition to the SD CM10SDCARD partition. Just go to settings, applications and pick that app and say to move to SD. It will move it from what it calls internal memory (but is really the SD /data partition), to SD (which is really the CM10SDCARD partition).
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Okay I think I am getting little confused. I am not running CM10 on my Nook HD+. What I did actually is or have is (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613): following this thread I entered into Clockworkmod (CWM) Recovery and then flashed (Gapps/Play Store + Extras (rev2 - 2/3/2013) ) into CWM.
Thats all. I didnt flash the zip for rooting the device. Now I have access to the file browser and permission to install apks. And I am using it happily. But when I install the apk it gets installed in the device internal memory, the 32GB model. Thus it gets installed there but not to the external 16 GB memory card that I have inserted.
Going to the application manager doesnt shows with the option to move it to SD card. This is what I see. I am attaching the screenshot for so to avoid confusion.

goldenlark said:
Okay I think I am getting little confused. I am not running CM10 on my Nook HD+. What I did actually is or have is (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613): following this thread I entered into Clockworkmod (CWM) Recovery and then flashed (Gapps/Play Store + Extras (rev2 - 2/3/2013) ) into CWM.
Thats all. I didnt flash the zip for rooting the device. Now I have access to the file browser and permission to install apks. And I am using it happily. But when I install the apk it gets installed in the device internal memory, the 32GB model. Thus it gets installed there but not to the external 16 GB memory card that I have inserted.
Going to the application manager doesnt shows with the option to move it to SD card. This is what I see. I am attaching the screenshot for so to avoid confusion.
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And this SD card listed in the screenshot is actual Nooks Memory but not that of external SD card. The apps are treating device internal memory as the SD card memory

Well, as I have said to you many times, stock does not have apps2sd capability. But it can use most of that 32GB to install that huge app. As long as you have not loaded up your media sdcard with media files, you should have plenty of room. If you have it loaded up, move some of that to external sdcard.
Edit: some apps are hard coded to try to install to SD with apps2sd. That may be the issue (Edit: it is not). It definitely says it loaded it to SD (edit: not). One thing you could try is my swap SD zip so that the external SD becomes SDCARD.
And your third post said you were running CM10.
Edit2: that SD card number just means that it has 2GB of data that it uses on sdcard, not that it is installed to sdcard. The app itself is only 30MB. So if you do not want the app using 2GB of your internal media file space, do the swap I mentioned above.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

leapinlar said:
Well, as I have said to you many times, stock does not have apps2sd capability. But it can use most of that 32GB to install that huge app. As long as you have not loaded up your media sdcard with media files, you should have plenty of room. If you have it loaded up, move some of that to external sdcard.
Edit: some apps are hard coded to try to install to SD with apps2sd. That may be the issue (Edit: it is not). It definitely says it loaded it to SD (edit: not). One thing you could try is my swap SD zip so that the external SD becomes SDCARD.
And your third post said you were running CM10.
Edit2: that SD card number just means that it has 2GB of data that it uses on sdcard, not that it is installed to sdcard. The app itself is only 30MB. So if you do not want the app using 2GB of your internal media file space, do the swap I mentioned above.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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I think I understood it. Thanks man. But if i perform a swap by flashing sd card zip. Will I be able to install in future the apps on internal memory or will this capability be gone forever? and in future after performing this flash, I can only install apps on external sd card. ?

goldenlark said:
I think I understood it. Thanks man. But if i perform a swap by flashing sd card zip. Will I be able to install in future the apps on internal memory or will this capability be gone forever? and in future after performing this flash, I can only install apps on external sd card. ?
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The swap has nothing to do with where the apps get installed. You misunderstand. They still always get installed to internal. All this changes is where the apps store their data. By default apps install their data (media files and helper data files like that app does) to SDCARD. And on stock, SDCARD is the internal sdcard. The external SD is called ext_sdcard and apps don't use it. All my swap does is make the external card be SDCARD and the internal sdcard be ext_sdcard.
So if you uninstall that app, do the swap, reboot, then reinstall the app, the 30MB app still gets put on internal and the 2 GB of helper files get put on your external SD.
If you want to understand how the swap changes things, go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread and read about it.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

leapinlar said:
The swap has nothing to do with where the apps get installed. You misunderstand. They still always get installed to internal. All this changes is where the apps store their data. By default apps install their data (media files and helper data files like that app does) to SDCARD. And on stock, SDCARD is the internal sdcard. The external SD is called ext_sdcard and apps don't use it. All my swap does is make the external card be SDCARD and the internal sdcard be ext_sdcard.
So if you uninstall that app, do the swap, reboot, then reinstall the app, the 30MB app still gets put on internal and the 2 GB of helper files get put on your external SD.
If you want to understand how the swap changes things, go to my HD/HD+ Tips thread and read about it.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Ohhh yesss. I think I understood it thanks friend

leapinlar said:
Stock does not have the option to use Apps2sd. But why would you want too? Stock basically has unlimited app storage space as long as you do not load up your internal media SD with media files.
Or were you meaning that you wanted to move apps installed on stock to your SD installation of CM? Apps2SD does not accomplish that. You must manually copy them from stock to CM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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So I rooted my nook hd and i have 2 questions, is there any way to move the data of my apps to my ext_sdcard now that i have rooted? I tried an app2sd app but it said my device does not have this capability. Also is your version of verygreen's CM10.1 compatible with the 7 inch nook hd? because it only sayd HDplus. Thank you, i hope you respond.

zamplifier said:
So I rooted my nook hd and i have 2 questions, is there any way to move the data of my apps to my ext_sdcard now that i have rooted? I tried an app2sd app but it said my device does not have this capability. Also is your version of verygreen's CM10.1 compatible with the 7 inch nook hd? because it only sayd HDplus. Thank you, i hope you respond.
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When you say you have rooted your HD, do you mean you have rooted stock so that it has root access, or do you mean you replaced stock with CM10.1?
And what do you mean my version of verygreen's CM10.1? I don't have a version of CM10.1. Or did you mean my swap zip?
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@leapinlar
I'm using Unofficial Carbon JB3 on a Nook HD+ 16GB. Settings | Apps | <select app> doesn't show any option to move apps to SD.
App Mgr III when installed says:
The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated.
Moving app to SD function cannot be supported by this device.
Have you seen or used the App 2 SD option on a Nook HD+?
Alternatively I'd like to use your sdcard / ext_sdcard swap utility. If I do I'd like to move everything currently in the sdcard folder to my actual external SD card. Would this be a good way of doing that?:
1) Copy sdcard contents to ext_sdcard
2) Run utility
3) Delete ext_card contents

MossyTC said:
@leapinlar
I'm using Unofficial Carbon JB3 on a Nook HD+ 16GB. Settings | Apps | doesn't show any option to move apps to SD.
App Mgr III when installed says:
The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated.
Moving app to SD function cannot be supported by this device.
Have you seen or used the App 2 SD option on a Nook HD+?
Alternatively I'd like to use your sdcard / ext_sdcard swap utility. If I do I'd like to move everything currently in the sdcard folder to my actual external SD card. Would this be a good way of doing that?:
1) Copy sdcard contents to ext_sdcard
2) Run utility
3) Delete ext_card contents
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Yes, follow those steps.
And app2sd positively does not work on the HD/HD+. And the reason it does not is the reason stated in the message, emulated storage. I don't know what the app would say after you ran my swap. Probably the same thing.
But be warned I have the CM10 swap set so it only will install on official CM builds.
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[Q] SDCARD Ext_SDCARD swap not working for my Nook HD

Hello,
I am trying to use the mods posted Leapinlar in his excellent post here, but I am certainly doing something wrong since the internal and my SD card are not swapped. After installing the appropriate Zip file, I reboot my nook, but it does not see the Sd card anymore, it just shows the internal memory as both sdcard and ext_sdcard as if I do not have any memory card inserted. Once I remove the swap feature, everything works like before so I see both the internal memory as sdcard and my 16GB sd card as ext_sdcard. What I did
1.- I created the CWM 4GB card
2.- I copied both the SDSwap and remove SDSwap ZIP file on the CWM card
3.- Booted my nook with CWM card
4.- Chose to install the SDSwap Zip file
5.- Removed the card, inserted my 16GB sd card and rebooted
After that, with or without any SDcard inserted, the nook only shows the content of the internal memory as sdcard and ext_sdcard.
Thank you for any help for this silly newby here,
Miguel

Matoroa said:
Hello,
I am trying to use the mods posted Leapinlar in his excellent post here, but I am certainly doing something wrong since the internal and my SD card are not swapped. After installing the appropriate Zip file, I reboot my nook, but it does not see the Sd card anymore, it just shows the internal memory as both sdcard and ext_sdcard as if I do not have any memory card inserted. Once I remove the swap feature, everything works like before so I see both the internal memory as sdcard and my 16GB sd card as ext_sdcard. What I did
1.- I created the CWM 4GB card
2.- I copied both the SDSwap and remove SDSwap ZIP file on the CWM card
3.- Booted my nook with CWM card
4.- Chose to install the SDSwap Zip file
5.- Removed the card, inserted my 16GB sd card and rebooted
After that, with or without any SDcard inserted, the nook only shows the content of the internal memory as sdcard and ext_sdcard.
Thank you for any help for this silly newby here,
Miguel
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What are you running, stock or CM10.1? If stock, it may be how you formatted the SD. If you used stock to reformat the card, the swap will not work. Get SDFormatter free on the web and format the SD. Then try the swap.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
What are you running, stock or CM10.1? If stock, it may be how you formatted the SD. If you used stock to reformat the card, the swap will not work. Get SDFormatter free on the web and format the SD. Then try the swap.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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That might be it. I am using stock and formated the card with it.
Thank you, I will try your solution.

Worked!!!!!
Matoroa said:
That might be it. I am using stock and formated the card with it.
Thank you, I will try your solution.
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It worked. That was the solution. Thank you very much Leapinlar.

accessing internal memory
Matoroa said:
It worked. That was the solution. Thank you very much Leapinlar.
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Thanks to leapinar and the junior op who started this post, i plucked up the courage to install sdswap. and its worked.
what i really want to know now is how to access my files on the internal memory? i use "es explorer" mainly, but if there
is another app that can access the internal memory that would be great.
I am using nook hd stock 2.1.1 with sideload mod and sdswap installed.

sunnysideup128 said:
Thanks to leapinar and the junior op who started this post, i plucked up the courage to install sdswap. and its worked.
what i really want to know now is how to access my files on the internal memory? i use "es explorer" mainly, but if there
is another app that can access the internal memory that would be great.
I am using nook hd stock 2.1.1 with sideload mod and sdswap installed.
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ES Explorer is fine, but there are other file managers that also work. Root Browser, Root Explorer and many others. Just look in ext_sdcard as that is where internal memory is after the swap.
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SD storage question

I was running cm10.1 from a 32gb sdcard. With my games and apps and my daughters games the card was almost full. I decided to install cm10.1 internally on the nook so I figured I would have more storage for apps. I actually have less now. I have the internal space for games now but can only put movies and music which I dont even use on the sdcard. Is there anyway to put applications on the sdcard? There is no move button in apps anymore. Thanks.

jamesban said:
I was running cm10.1 from a 32gb sdcard. With my games and apps and my daughters games the card was almost full. I decided to install cm10.1 internally on the nook so I figured I would have more storage for apps. I actually have less now. I have the internal space for games now but can only put movies and music which I dont even use on the sdcard. Is there anyway to put applications on the sdcard? There is no move button in apps anymore. Thanks.
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You should have much more app storage on with CM10.1 on internal than on SD. How do you figure you have less?
But if you transferred all your media files you had on the SD to internal media, you would have filled up internal space, leaving little space for apps. Apps and media files on internal share the same free space.
You cannot move apps to SD.
One solution is to move as many media files to the external SD (ext_sdcard) as possible, freeing space for apps.
Or another solution is to use my SD swap zip for CM10.1 on my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature (item 4). That makes it so CM10.1 uses the external SD to store media files automatically.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

So if installed cm10.1 internally on my nook replacing the stock nook rom using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
I will have more space for apps then when i ran it from my 32gb card? My nookhd has 8gb internal storage. After Installing the ROM internally to the device and installing games the internal storage keeps going up and my 32gb sd card is still empty as if the games and apps are all installing to the internal 8gb storage and not my card so I have 32 gb of wasted space. I have no desire to put movies and music on my tablet. Also when I go to settings apps theres no way to move games to sdcard anymore. How does it give me more space as you stated? Am I missing something.

jamesban said:
So if installed cm10.1 internally on my nook replacing the stock nook rom using this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
I will have more space for apps then when i ran it from my 32gb card? My nookhd has 8gb internal storage. After Installing the ROM internally to the device and installing games the internal storage keeps going up and my 32gb sd card is still empty as if the games and apps are all installing to the internal 8gb storage and not my card so I have 32 gb of wasted space. I have no desire to put movies and music on my tablet. Also when I go to settings apps theres no way to move games to sdcard anymore. How does it give me more space as you stated? Am I missing something.
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On a 32GB SD set up for CM10.1, it is partitioned to allow 2GB for apps and 28 GB for media files (which includes some extra data files that games use, not just movies and music). That 28GB cannot be used for apps themselves.
On your 8GB HD, there is about 6GB available to be shared by apps and media files. That is not much room for apps if you load it up with media files (like game data). But if you were to do the swap zip as I suggested, the games no longer put their media files on internal, but on external. So you would have the full 6GB for apps and a full 32GB (on your external SD) for your media files.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.