Hi, everyone.
tl;dr: Phone calls kill the music player (presumably due to low memory), although the navigation keeps going. How can I stop it killing the music?
Bit of background.
I have a Milestone currently running CM7. I like Android 2.3, and I'd like to keep it if possible, but I would consider switching to any ROM that supports 2G/3G switching in Tasker (which means no stock ROMs) if it'll solve this problem.
I use my phone to provide music in my car because I use it almost constantly for navigation. I have a Tasker profile set up so that when I plug something into the headphone socket (including, for example, my tape deck adapter because I'm too poor to get a proper car dock) the phone asks if I want to go to car mode. On selecting this, it switches to 3G only (so as not to interfere with the speakers), turns off wifi, fires up GPS and starts Car Home, as well as activating some auto-respond and reading aloud profiles to deal with SMS. From there I normally hit Navigate and then get some music up either in the default player or Spotify.
So I was trying this out yesterday. Since updating to CM7 my phone seems to be able to more reliably keep music playing, whereas it'd often close the music app at the end of a song with CM6 (Spotify, oddly, was more reliable). Good. Until I get a phone call, at which point it kills the music player entirely, although the navigation does come back at the end of the call.
This makes sense. The call is more important than the navigation which is more important than the music so it kills the music. Thing is, I'd like to keep all three going. I hate driving without music and leaning over to fiddle with my phone while driving is going to get me killed one day.
I've used zeppelinrox's guide to supercharge my phone and I'm running with Auto Memory Manager at 6, 8, 24, 26, 28 and 30. I haven't bulletproofed the launcher... yet. Thing is I'd be happy for the launcher to die while I'm in my car so I'm not sure I want to do that. It's also running overclocked to 900MHz max on the interactive governor (or was, I've just this minute switched it to smartass but I doubt that matters).
My phone, incidentally, is doing nothing in particular right now and has 44MB free (I have a bunch of home screen widgets but I don't think I'm being excessive).
That's not a lot, it's probably not enough to run a music player, navigation and a phone call. I get that. But a phone with 256MB total RAM should be able to handle those three tasks simultaneously.
Here's what it does in my car that I care about (in priority order):
Taking calls.
Navigation.
Music (either the Android app or Spotify).
Tasker (sitting on my "in car" profile but not actively doing things unless I receive an SMS in which case it auto-replies).
Receiving text messages.
Car home.
Receiving emails.
Here's what I think it's doing that I don't care about:
Syncing Facebook/Twitter.
Software updates.
Home screen widgets.
Whatever else Android does when it's idle.
I've just had the notion while typing this that having Tasker disable sync while in the car might be a good move (to stop emails, Facebook and Twitter). This might free up extra memory. I don't know enough about Android to be sure of this, but I could give it a try. I'd rather not have to though because emails are sometimes important enough to pull over and deal with, or at least have my passenger read out. Facebook and Twitter aren't, obviously.
Any other tips? Would it be possible to build a script in Tasker to raise the priority of things I commonly use in my car and drop the priority of everything else? I'd also like to bulletproof my launcher while in normal use but not so much while I'm in the car.
Thanks.
First a workaround.
You can add a short cut to the music player in Car Home (the google car home you can, anyway)
So at least you have a big easy button to hit to run it.
You can also try and bulletproof the app with a gscript.
Yep, got the music apps in Car Home. I like the Google one, the Motorola one is useless.
I don't know how I missed that thread but I shall give it a go. Cheers.
It's hit and miss but apparently it works pretty good for the music app
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I am really trying to like this phone even after the mango update..
But I can not understand a few things..
The Volume on this phone is crap There is no way in hell it will ever wake me up using the alarm, My droid I was able to set whatever I wanted to any ringtone or alarm ( my own music) and I was able to make the volume loud enough to actually hear it..
Microphone input why can we not use the microphone anywhere there is a input field? why can we only long press the windows logo or use it for sms? evidently it is built into the OS just fine for voice to txt why not use it across the whole os on any text input field?
No flash?
GPS navigation is piss poor unless you dump 35$ on the Garmin suite.. believe me i have tried every trial and free app this week and they all do not compare to Google maps free on the android..
Also again SOUND unless you drive with NO fan on in the car, no music, and windows rolled up and on a quiet street you will not hear the GPS telling you where to turn.
Battery life:
wow all you have to do is send a few messages and browse the web for less then 5 minutes and you are at a 1/4 power loss ...
Think it is time to head back over to android land where i was able to use the microphone for a lot more voice input...
was able to set ringtone to music I liked and was ABLE TO HEAR IT
was able to HEAR MY alarm clock
was able to HEAR the gps software that was superior and FREE
You could have saved yourself a lot of time, stress and possibly money by reading the posts in this forum which have discussed the points you mentioned about dozens of times.
I feel your pain, I bought a HD7 on launch day and sold it a week later. There weren't any reviews available back then but now, almost a year after launch, all the issues in your post at widely known.
When did you get your HD7?
re: Volume - I've never had an issue with this
re: Nav - GPS Tuner.com's "Turn By Turn" is great and cheap ($5.49 Aussie - Less everywhere else in the world)
re: Battery life - I find it the same as every power hungry smartphone I've owned... I'm used to charging once a day
A lot of the other issues you state will likely be resolved soon... But most you list are WP7 issues rather than HD7 issues...
Perhaps android is more suitable...
I had some questions maybe someone here can clear up:
1. Volume limit warning. Is there a way to turn this off? I didn't see a feature for it. I use my bluetooth in my car and I turn it to max, but I have to turn it up every time I get in the car.
2. 611, When dialing any Vzw customer service #, The dialer takes you into an app instead. Is there a way to disable this? I don't like the fact that Vzw is so integrated into this phone.
3. Auto launching a website when plugged in to the computer. Is there a way to disable this?
Bonus Question: Streaming "High" from play music still sounds bad: Is this a Moto X thing or google thing? Even when "Keeping" the music, it still sounds pretty terrible. I mean, it's able to be listened to, but It's not near the quality of the music on my USB stick (Which I also downloaded from Google Play)
tirionfive said:
I had some questions maybe someone here can clear up:
1. Volume limit warning. Is there a way to turn this off? I didn't see a feature for it. I use my bluetooth in my car and I turn it to max, but I have to turn it up every time I get in the car.
2. 611, When dialing any Vzw customer service #, The dialer takes you into an app instead. Is there a way to disable this? I don't like the fact that Vzw is so integrated into this phone.
3. Auto launching a website when plugged in to the computer. Is there a way to disable this?
Bonus Question: Streaming "High" from play music still sounds bad: Is this a Moto X thing or google thing? Even when "Keeping" the music, it still sounds pretty terrible. I mean, it's able to be listened to, but It's not near the quality of the music on my USB stick (Which I also downloaded from Google Play)
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On number 3. Have you tried streaming at low quality on your mobile data? If so you need to clear the music that has been cached already on the device. And then you need to switch the setting to high quality and that should do it. Cause if you had the "low quality setting" and streamed it before you switched it to "high"... the music cached in low quality already therefore needing to be cleared. You can go to settings while you are on the music app and clear the stored music cached.. Hope it helps..
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tirionfive said:
I had some questions maybe someone here can clear up:
1. Volume limit warning. Is there a way to turn this off? I didn't see a feature for it. I use my bluetooth in my car and I turn it to max, but I have to turn it up every time I get in the car.
2. 611, When dialing any Vzw customer service #, The dialer takes you into an app instead. Is there a way to disable this? I don't like the fact that Vzw is so integrated into this phone.
3. Auto launching a website when plugged in to the computer. Is there a way to disable this?
Bonus Question: Streaming "High" from play music still sounds bad: Is this a Moto X thing or google thing? Even when "Keeping" the music, it still sounds pretty terrible. I mean, it's able to be listened to, but It's not near the quality of the music on my USB stick (Which I also downloaded from Google Play)
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to turn off the website from popping up, plug the phone in, go to your bottom right notification bar. you will see a little phone looking thing with maybe a motorola logo. right click. go to "when device connects" then click "do nothing"
the volume limit is a known issue in 4.2 and I haven't seen a fix for it besides in custom roms. It may get fixed in 4.3 updated. As for noise quality. try using a different equalized like viper4android. here is a link to a post about it. seems to give better audio quality.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457564
my .flac files sound pretty decent. I found the Moto X doesn't always do justice to tracks 240kbps or less, as opposed to iphone 5 where they sounded fine.
Hey guys, newcomer here. Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I've got some serious bluetooth flakiness going on with my Verizon Moto X (not rooted, 4.4.2).
Oddly, pairing is not the issue. The phone pairs with my Pebble and my LG HBS-700 bluetooth headphones just fine. But the media controls on both are super spotty. I'll start an app to play music or podcasts (MediaMonkey, Google Music, Pocket Casts, etc.) Typically I do this manually, start a track, then put the phone in my pocket and go about my business.
At first, the skip/pause/play controls on the headset and my watch work just fine, but after a few minutes, they often fail to respond. Sometimes pressing skip will seem to do nothing, then skip several seconds later. But most often, all controls fail to have any effect. To fix it I have to unlock the phone and perform the action manually. Usually this also "wakes up" the bluetooth controls, and they'll work again for a bit.
Sometimes, with the screen unlocked, when the skip fails it produces the message "No songs in now playing list." Is that a Google Music message? Could Google Music be trying to take control as the "active" media player when I'm listening to another app? That can't be the whole story because I've had the same problems with Google Music itself as well. I actually don't know how Android determines what the "active" media player app is at a given time.
ANY advice or links would be helpful. Thanks!
I have 2 links, persist+ & Google search workaround, in my signature.
They may help.
Thanks for the links! I don't think I found anything related to my problem, though. Persist+ looks cool, but my problems aren't volume related. Know of any app that monitors the active media player that external bluetooth controls should be controlling?
Don't have a Pebble, but controls on my LG HBS-730 have always been reliable. What happens if you connect only to the headphones?
Just tried it with the Pebble disconnected and I have the same issue. I did notice, though, that the volume controls on the headset continue to work, even when the play/pause/skip buttons stop working. Sometimes messing with the volume makes the pause button work again. Guess I should test with just the watch and no headset now to see if it's just a headset issue.
If this is some kind of conflict between Pebble and the LG, it is conceivable that whatever it is may still be on your phone. Might want to unpair both of them, wipe your phone's cache, and then just pair the LG, connect, and re-test.
Thanks, will do. When you say wipe the cache, do you just mean forget all the bluetooth connections, or is there something more specific I should do?
hexfield said:
is there something more specific I should do?
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https://motorola-global-portal.cust..._id/94946/p/30,6720,8696/kw/cache/action/auth
No luck, unfortunately. I cleared the cache per those instructions, then just paired the headset. It seemed to be working better at first, but eventually I saw problems with the play/pause/skip buttons not being recognized, or taking upwards of 10 seconds to be recognized. At one point I pressed the play/pause button to pause a podcast in Pocket Casts, and instead it started a track in Google Music seemingly at random.
Solutions Etcetera, you've never seen anything like this with your LGs?
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you've never seen anything like this with your LGs?
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No... never. Not with my Kinivo BTC450 set up in my truck either (which has identical controls, sans volume).
While I primarily use Pocketcasts, no trouble with the occasional use of Play Music either.
I forget, did it always behave this way? If not, maybe a full reset is in order.
Blarg. Okay I'll give it a shot. This is the first time I've had to do a full reset on an android phone (had an iphone for a long time), are there any best practices you guys could point me too? I'm assuming I don't want to back everything up with Titanium because I may also back up the bug.
hexfield said:
Blarg. Okay I'll give it a shot. This is the first time I've had to do a full reset on an android phone (had an iphone for a long time), are there any best practices you guys could point me too? I'm assuming I don't want to back everything up with Titanium because I may also back up the bug.
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Yup. Turn off Automatic Restore in Backup and reset. Make sure photos, and anything that is on the phone and not elsewhere, is copied to your computer. If you want to backup call logs and SMS, there are apps on Play to do it. Don't know what to tell you re game levels and scores (never a priority for me). Some apps with complicated settings (Tasker, Aquamail, etc.) have the ability to export/back up settings for an easy restore. Copy those files to your PC as well.
Reset and set up as new. Hope it clears up your issue.
Took a while to confirm, but I think the issue is fixed! Resetting helped that and also seems to have improved performance overall. Thanks for the help!
So i thought it'd be pretty cool to have my X start to play music automatically when in my car... It has failed. Sometimes it will work once i start driving, but if I stop anywhere and turn off my car and go again, it won't play unless I manually do it. Ive tried clearing Moto assist data, but no go. Would tasker be better as I'd like music to play every time a BT connection is made to this certain head unit. Thanks
Not a fan of the car mode either. It said I was still in car mode almost 20 minutes after having parked and turned off my car. As a result it started reading me my text messages when I didn't want to. Needless to say, I turned it off.
Judging by the massive amount of replies, I'm guessing this is a non issue for most. However, in case anyone finds this in the future, I fixed my issue by disabling moto from learning Bluetooth devices. Now it starts just when I start driving. I'm guessing the issue lies in moto trying to communicate with my head unit.
I've found that car mode is less reliable on lollipop. On KitKat, Google play music would open and music would start every time. With lollipop, IF Google play music opens, it never starts playing. This is all with the phone plugged into power and the aux in cable prior to moving.
yup, that is why i use the app 'trigger' instead. I have it set to open music, and play when i connect to my cars bluetooth.
Hey guys,
Love my new S6, because of memory limitations, I'm using spotify more than the music player. I noticed that when I listen to music, the volume keeps changing by itself (but remains at the same "number" that I set), I believe it's an EQ problem due to the voice/instrument equalizer function that keeps adjusting one VS the other. I was able to downgrade the amazon appstore still has version 2.6.0.813 and it's better (but not perfect yet, I hope they fix this bug in the next spotify update, just wanted to share in case you though you were going crazy (as I did).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/volume-changing-playing-music-t3089066
Solution
Just found the solution, please close topic
https://community.spotify.com/t5/He...-Distorted-playback-sound-levels/td-p/1028205
Disabling Nuplayer does not work
solution from the previous post does not work, I and others tested it and spotify volume is still messed up with Nuplayer disabled, downgrading seems to be the only solution as of now, sorry for the confusion
Remix22 said:
Hey guys,
Love my new S6, because of memory limitations, I'm using spotify more than the music player. I noticed that when I listen to music, the volume keeps changing by itself (but remains at the same "number" that I set), I believe it's an EQ problem due to the voice/instrument equalizer function that keeps adjusting one VS the other. I was able to downgrade the amazon appstore still has version 2.6.0.813 and it's better (but not perfect yet, I hope they fix this bug in the next spotify update, just wanted to share in case you though you were going crazy (as I did).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/volume-changing-playing-music-t3089066
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actually, I've noticed this problem with Google Play music as well.. I'm not using the equalizer.. for no apparent reason, at some points in certain songs, the volume will inexplicably lower, never quite recovering.. weird
same here. thought i was going deaf bc i had the volume up to 80%
Is it happening with your stock music player? I disabled Nuplayer and spotify is still misbehaving but the Samsung player works fine. I didn't find a Samsung user forum to report the problem but will look more into it.
old version works
Using S6 Edge, had this problem myself with spotify - can confirm using the previous version of spotify fixes the problem.
Agree there's points where it stoll changes volume ever so slightly but definatley a big improvement.
Can't post link to download due to new user restrictions.
Thanks to OP for posting his findings. Big help.
Peace.
I have been going back and forth with Spotify support for weeks on this issue, and it's been escalated to a Tier 2 person who I've been working with for almost a week now. Specifically, my problem is that the sound on any given song will vary throughout the song...it will start at whatever volume I have it set at, then suddenly get about 25% quieter for about 10-20 seconds, then go back up to original volume. This happens in almost a cyclical fashion my entire time listening to Spotify on my phone...whether it be through headphones, phone speak, or a bluetooth speaker. Spotify support even gave me another test account to try, which this issue also happen in on my phone....and they logged into my account on their end and done extensive listening tests, but are not able to replicate on their end. They had me try everything...clearing cache, trying with volume normalization ON, then trying with it OFF, WiFi only, data only, listening to cached music with no data turned on, re-installing, rebooting, updating, deleting all Spotify files/folders from the file manager, listening with corded headphones, bluetooth headphones, phone speaker, bluetooth speaker, etc. They really feel at this point that it's the Samsung Galaxy S6 that doesnt play nicely with Spotify, but they cannot figure out why. I'm still troubleshooting with them but so far no solution, only a ton of things ruled out as culprits. =(
This is a few days old but do you have sound alive enabled?
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