I am really trying to like this phone even after the mango update..
But I can not understand a few things..
The Volume on this phone is crap There is no way in hell it will ever wake me up using the alarm, My droid I was able to set whatever I wanted to any ringtone or alarm ( my own music) and I was able to make the volume loud enough to actually hear it..
Microphone input why can we not use the microphone anywhere there is a input field? why can we only long press the windows logo or use it for sms? evidently it is built into the OS just fine for voice to txt why not use it across the whole os on any text input field?
No flash?
GPS navigation is piss poor unless you dump 35$ on the Garmin suite.. believe me i have tried every trial and free app this week and they all do not compare to Google maps free on the android..
Also again SOUND unless you drive with NO fan on in the car, no music, and windows rolled up and on a quiet street you will not hear the GPS telling you where to turn.
Battery life:
wow all you have to do is send a few messages and browse the web for less then 5 minutes and you are at a 1/4 power loss ...
Think it is time to head back over to android land where i was able to use the microphone for a lot more voice input...
was able to set ringtone to music I liked and was ABLE TO HEAR IT
was able to HEAR MY alarm clock
was able to HEAR the gps software that was superior and FREE
You could have saved yourself a lot of time, stress and possibly money by reading the posts in this forum which have discussed the points you mentioned about dozens of times.
I feel your pain, I bought a HD7 on launch day and sold it a week later. There weren't any reviews available back then but now, almost a year after launch, all the issues in your post at widely known.
When did you get your HD7?
re: Volume - I've never had an issue with this
re: Nav - GPS Tuner.com's "Turn By Turn" is great and cheap ($5.49 Aussie - Less everywhere else in the world)
re: Battery life - I find it the same as every power hungry smartphone I've owned... I'm used to charging once a day
A lot of the other issues you state will likely be resolved soon... But most you list are WP7 issues rather than HD7 issues...
Perhaps android is more suitable...
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hmmmm
£20?
wow,
I am really happy with my HT 820 but this looks great and small!
I would really be interested in getting one......
Maybe PM me or email.>?
Or post?
Why does every body oohing and ahhing about this piece of junk? IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!!.... Let me repeat. IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!! So the only way for you to get call notification is to either wear the ear pieces all the time or turn on your Athena default ear shattering notification sound. Now, I understand that a lot of you think that no one will ever call you or the line of work that you're in will never ever require you to attend any meeting at work so the default loud Athena notification is not a problem. But think again!!!! On that rare occasion when the hooker you paid to go out on a date with you calls, you will find yourself looking like an IDIOT emitting that horrible stupid default call notification sound that came with the Athena. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY BUYING THIS PIECE OF SH*T.
The only stereo BT headset that also vibrates up until now is the Jabra BT8010.
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Why does every body oohing and ahhing about this piece of junk? IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!!.... Let me repeat. IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!! So the only way for you to get call notification is to either wear the ear pieces all the time or turn on your Athena default ear shattering notification sound. Now, I understand that a lot of you think that no one will ever call you or the line of work that you're in will never ever require you to attend any meeting at work so the default loud Athena notification is not a problem. But think again!!!! On that rare occasion when the hooker you paid to go out on a date with you calls, you will find yourself looking like an IDIOT emitting that horrible stupid default call notification sound that came with the Athena. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY BUYING THIS PIECE OF SH*T.
The only stereo BT headset that also vibrates up until now is the Jabra BT8010.
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We all got your point dude. Perhaps a bit nicer way could be a better way of informing and putting your point across. This is a forum to share information, where manners would be nice (other than info).
-Red-
Red_Toyol said:
We all got your point dude. Perhaps a bit nicer way could be a better way of informing and putting your point across. This is a forum to share information, where manners would be nice (other than info).
-Red-
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Manner would be spending a minute searching for more info (problems, etc...) about the item one is thinking of posting that have been reported time after time after time after time... up here before starting another thread tricking people into buying junks....
I'm with you Red_Toyol.
I bought this headset and the Jaba but took the Jaba back after a few days in favour of this one for two main reasons. First, the sound quality on the Sony-Ericsson is definitely better, both on Music and both ways on calls. Secondly, the wires for the earpieces act as the necklace so you wear it round your neck (and inside your shirt) and it only comes out when needed.
Now, since using it for some 4 months now, I can give you a couple of other pointers.
The DS970 has caller display so I can see who's calling before I answer. OK, it's number only (there's probebly a fix for names) but I'm good with that.
Also, I charge mine once every two weeks or so. That's as I use it only now and then for music but for phone calls all the time. However, I leave the BT on the Ameo ALL the time but switch off the headset when not using it. That's because, when the phone rings (and I only have 20seconds before switching to answer machine), I have time to power up the headset (about 5 secs including logon to Ameo) and answer. When call finished, I hang up and switch off.
If you do this, you get sooo much battery life for no convenience loss AND it means vibrate would be useless anyway.
Each to their own I suppose but I am so pleased with this bit of kit. IF you need vibrate, look elsewhere. If not, this is the best IMHO.
Oh, and as for the ringing, why would you use the default ringer anyway? I have my own ringtones for various purposes and when I get a call, my Ameo rings as if I didn't have a headset. The only difference is I can choose at that point which method to answer by.
Hope this is helpful to those searching. Cheers.
DS970 indeed looks like quite an ideal BT headset.
Vibration is completely unnecessary for me also. Even if I have such a function, I won't use it. The reason is this. If I'm outdoor, I want normal ringtone to come through from the phone's speaker. If I'm in the meeting, I would just switch via profile into one of those "special ringtone". Special ringtone could be mosquitoe ringtone (ultrasonic frequency ringtone which I can hear but some others can't), sound of coughing, or even sound of a vibrating phone, etc. Something that sounds acceptable from etiqeutte standpoint. In addition, my profile would have set the ringing to go from soft to progressively loud. There is no need to actually vibrate.
I like the style of the phone where you can hide it in your shirt with only two wires hanging out. It is much better than hanging it on the ear, which looks really wierd in my own opinion.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Beware of fake HBH DS970 from ebay sellers.
I did a quick research on this, and noted that many have bought from Hong Kong sellers mainly, but some are out of US too.
If you have it very cheap, it's likely to be a fake.
Attached are some articles related to these fake items.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=137266&start=0
http://213.19.178.16/se/
http://reviews.ebay.com/Fake-counte...000003518644?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:3
http://reviews.ebay.com/Fake-SE-HBH...000003829178?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:4
Tritton - Another Option
Here is another option I came across while looking for a BT solution. The Tritton relies on the housing to clip on your pocket, shirt or coat but I have also used it with a lanyard when wearing a t-shirt. It also allows you the option of using any stereo headset with a 3.5 mm plug.
It is a very clean, mimimalist design (no blinking blue light) with an OLED display and Caller ID (number only) to conserve battery and relies on only 3 buttons for all the functions. So far it has worked very well with the Advantage and the range for both headset and stereo functions has been excellent with no static or popping at all. You can actually keep your device in your pocket, bag or briefcase without any degradation to audio quality. The only con is that there is not vibration feature.
I purchased mine at Tiger Direct for less than $100.
While trying to source for DS980, I came across DS220, which seems to be similar to DS980 except you're free to plug in your 3.5mm earphone of your choice if you wish.
Has anyone used this before? If so, how is the sound quality?
Anyone knows if there are other differences between DS980 and DS220?
bizarre this thread should appear as i bought some of these this very day for 40 quid from Cex, though they are brand new and CERTAINLY not fake. certainly if they are available for twenty quid il be gutted!! they seem to work fine. sound quality is great and i dont feel like a **** wearing them. all good then. the only thing i havent figured is whether i can get it to automatically open up media player when i press play. i also cant get it to work with my n95 - after pairing it just says 'unable to connect'. stupid n95.
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While trying to source for DS980, I came across DS220, which seems to be similar to DS980 except you're free to plug in your 3.5mm earphone of your choice if you wish.
Has anyone used this before? If so, how is the sound quality?
Anyone knows if there are other differences between DS980 and DS220?
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my main gripe with the sony units is that they have their own propriety charger connection, a kinda bastardised Sony phone charger.
IMHO the tritton unit is much better, recently upgraded to one from a hbh-ds970
i guess it all depends on each other's preferences. some like the headset to vibrate, some like it hanging via neckstrap, etc.
this is what i've been using for 2 years now:
http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=2&pid=02030
it's an r35 itech unit. i use the white one and i like it for the following:
- no need to hang it in your ear all the time
- minimalistic and you can hide it in your shirt collar...or clip it
- has a built in buzzer that i can hear even when outdoors. when a call comes there are 2 beeps that go off. they won't stop until i answer or the caller hangs up
- my x7500 is either in my laptop bag, the diaper bag or in a backpack. so this saves me the trouble of carrying it all the time
- during meetings, i can disable the buzzer and change the notification to rapid light mode. basically, i leave it on the table so when a call comes through the normal flashing light turns to 2 rapid flashes
- i can change the single earphone to dual for a2dp stereo use. the headset also allows me to skip to the next track or go back to the previous, etc
- and i can plug my nifty bose noise cancelers on it as well
cheers
I really cant understand why no one does the following:
a2dp
usb chrging
option for using your own headphones
vibrate
full caller id- not just number
sms viewing
full music controls
mp3 id tag display
lanyard or clip on option
equaliser controls
oled
wm and symbian compatitibilty
Surely it can't be that difficult- I just wanna be able to leave my Ameo in my pocket until I choose to take it out
I found this article and I told myself that a developer could find his happiness there
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/10/NoiseDetection/default.aspx?loc=en
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"You're sitting in the local coffee shop on a sunny afternoon, peacefully enjoying a quiet moment, when your phone starts to ring. It's set, of course, to full volume and the ring is so loud you nearly spill your coffee. So you turn it down.
Later that day, you're waiting at a bar for a friend, but he's nowhere to be seen. He'd forgotten which bar you were meeting at and called to see where you were. Unfortunately, you missed the call because you didn't hear your phone ring. The problem: the ring volume was still turned down and wasn't loud enough to hear in the noisy bar.
This is fairly ridiculous when you consider that current mobile phones have as much processing power as the first PC I used for multi-channel audio recording. It would seem that with today's intelligent mobile devices, which are capable of doing so many things and accessing so much information, this problem should not exist. However, everyone who has a mobile phone has experienced this problem in one form or another.
The obvious way to solve the problem is to remember to change your volume settings. The option to change the ring volume is presumably to deal with the acoustic differences in various environments, but the functionality does not really do that. Devices should be able to act with a little more common sense. It's simple: I just want my mobile phone not to ring too loudly in a quiet environment and to ring audibly in a loud place.
This article addresses the possibilities and practicality of a Windows Mobile® application that automatically adjusts the Pocket PC's ring level based on the ambient noise in its current environment. The functionality of this app prevents the phone from ringing too loudly or softly, saving me from embarrassment and missed calls. In this article, I'll use this problem as an introduction to Windows Mobile development using Visual Studio® 2005 and C#."
WOW! This would really be a great solution!
No more dicking about with profiles and Volumes hehe!
Sadly, despite the immense processing power of today's phones, they are slower than the cell phones 10 years ago. Why? Fine, we're doing a lot more with them, but still, if i can put linux on my P400 and surf the net and play 3d games and even change the screen orientation within less than a quarter second... then why can't my phone do that... and maybe even do it better?
Is it too much to ask to have a zippy menu interface and nearly instant screen orientation changes?
Sorry, this rant is a bit off topic. You are entirely correct. Our phones could have been doing this for at least a decade... but sadly, only companies like apple seem to want to invest in innovative products (I own a kaiser, not an iphone... so dont get on my case with an apple rant, ok?)
How will this help when the phone is in your pocket and it either hears nothing so rings very quietly, or hears a thunderstorm of noise from the keys and change it is rattling around with?
while(!(linux)){wm} said:
Sadly, despite the immense processing power of today's phones, they are slower than the cell phones 10 years ago. Why? Fine, we're doing a lot more with them, but still, if i can put linux on my P400 and surf the net and play 3d games and even change the screen orientation within less than a quarter second... then why can't my phone do that... and maybe even do it better?
Is it too much to ask to have a zippy menu interface and nearly instant screen orientation changes?
Sorry, this rant is a bit off topic. You are entirely correct. Our phones could have been doing this for at least a decade... but sadly, only companies like apple seem to want to invest in innovative products (I own a kaiser, not an iphone... so dont get on my case with an apple rant, ok?)
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My,,, haven't we grown impatient over the years. I can remember when a dial up modem and a 9600 connection were killer.
I've just defected from Iphone 3gs - I got the Mrs an SGSII back in July and she it has become a permanent fixture to her left hand.
Anyway, as I'm sure a lot of you know, with the 3GS all you had to do was hold the call button down on the headphone cord, wait for the tone then say the name of the person you want to call and off we go.
I cannot for the life of me replicate this behaviour with voice talk on the Note and it's driving me nutz as I used that facility a lot when listening to music out and about. All the searches I've done seem to come back with stuff about blue tooth headsets.
Help!! (please)
Incidentally the Note headphones seem to be a step up from SGSIIs quality wise.
I'm currently using a Nexus 5 and I find the voice dictation terrible when I'm in the freeway with wind noise is the background (windows closed). It stops listening half way through sentences or even after the first word sometimes. Its happened multiple times where I give up because it absolutely can't translate what I'm saying or just stops working halfway through the sentence.
Is the new Moto X any better at blocking out ambient noises since it has more microphones? Anyone with any experience with both of these phones for a comparison?
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I tried it couples times on my girl's Moto X while I was driving with the radio music on to ask what's the song on radio or navigation
it works pretty decent that it recognize what it has to do without lowering down the volume on the radio
the phone were sitting in cup holders(passenger side, I put mine on the driver's side)
I don't remember if the windows were opened though
the voice recognition of voice input comes from google itself, I dont know how much it would affect compared to the simple function
Hope this helps
Well the Moto X is way better thah nexus 5. The moto x has the noise cancelling tech and it works pretty well. U will surely find an improvement in recognition.
If you activate it then it's very accurate but if you use the one where it announces texts or calls, it struggles for me.
I turned off the Moto Voice and went with just OK Google, and the performance is so much better. All you lose us the ability to speak to your phone while it's off (which barely worked 50% of the time) and the pointless voice commands like "check my Verizon bill".
anyone able to fully test the turbo and moto voice in a car environment please? maybe with windows open also.
i would like to confirm if the turbo can handle all the touchless functions while the car has the windows open.
On the note3, it is unable to differentiate voice from car engine/wind noise and thus continues to listen until it times out and thus recognises nothing useful at all., totally useless in the car.
Im hoping the turbo mics are able to block out the wind and engine noise and such.
if it all works, im hoping to root the phone and add custom commands so nearly everything can be performed without touching the phone.
I'll give moto voice a few stress tests. I'll post back with results.
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For me.. Moto voice has a tendency to pick up road sound....I'll be done talking and it'll keep listening..Microphone seems uber sensitive..
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ccheww said:
I'll give moto voice a few stress tests. I'll post back with results.
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nice thanks. its one of the main reasons to moving over to a turbo from a note3, for me anyways.
dano1282 said:
For me.. Moto voice has a tendency to pick up road sound....I'll be done talking and it'll keep listening..Microphone seems uber sensitive..
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Really? cos thats what my note3 in doing now, makes the google now voice service useless unless your in a car that is silent.
So, Is this with the windows down? so it cant separate wind noise or car engine noise?
Windows up or down.. doesn't make a difference..
thats a shame, hopefully someone finds a work around.. thx!
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thats a shame, hopefully someone finds a work around.. thx!
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I'll report some better findings. I use Moto voice in my car all the time for placing phone calls and short text messages. I also use the voice recognition of Swype for longer texts/email replies.
Generally I'm in a Mazda 3 which is a bit quieter than the cargo van i also drive. In the car with the windows up, it always recognizes the wake up phrase and as long as there isn't a commercial vehicle next to me, it also recognizes my commands. When Moto voice doesn't recognize the commands, it punts the voice data over to Google Now which can usually finish the job. In the cargo van, i usually have to loudly speak the wake up phrase, and it almost always needs Google Now to finish the task.
I find the voice controls and recognition much better than on S4/5 and can easily use it without worry or frustration in a car.
Got my turbo on Sunday. I picked it over a note 4 because of the touch less control. After spending a few days with it and constantly trying to use the touch less feature. I must say it sucks. Its pretty good at picking up the wake line. But after that its a hit or miss. I have to turn off my radio every time when I have to use touch less because it won't stop listen with the ratio running. Overall I don't think the touch less control is ready for prime. I'm at the verge of turning this feature off completely.
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Got my turbo on Sunday. I picked it over a note 4 because of the touch less control. After spending a few days with it and constantly trying to use the touch less feature. I must say it sucks. Its pretty good at picking up the wake line. But after that its a hit or miss. I have to turn off my radio every time when I have to use touch less because it won't stop listen with the ratio running. Overall I don't think the touch less control is ready for prime. I'm at the verge of turning this feature off completely.
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I wouldn't expect it to work with the radio on, it is listening for human voice after all. Once you unlock it, any words (yours, your passenger, or the radio) start to get analyzed. It does ignore music without lyrics and auto noise.
I've had really good experiences with the voice. Of course it will pick up the radio. It's kind of silly to think it could pick out your voice from all kinds of ambient noise. I usually just kill/mute the radio while I use the voice. It's only for a few seconds anyways.
If there is a lot of road noise or there is a strong crosswind that I can hear in the cabin of the car, Moto Voice will tell me it's a little noisy and I will need to speak up. But as long as I speak a little louder and clearer, it works really well. I just need to get another car dock that fits the Turbo. My old Moto X dock is too small.
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Thanks for the replies everyone, now im back on the fence again
i do know the the tubro wouldnt have the ability to isolate different voices so definitely would lower/ mute the radio.
If voice control is something you REALLY want, I can say that my Moto 360 lets me voice control my Turbo while in my Mazda Miata, with the top down, at 75 mph.
Since this topic is in the "accessories" category, I figured I could mention this!