So I've been experimenting with CM7, the tablet tweaks and all that... but I was beginning to get fed up with it all, including my nigh-addiction to tweaking everything until it was almost-perfect, breaking it then starting all over. So I went back to my daily driver, good ol' Honeycomb V4 2nd Edition and threw Dalingrin's latest kernel on there, then popped off a quadrant just to see what was up...
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So, yeah. I'm ridiculously excited for whatever the day we get actual Honeycomb source code.
Viva la Nook Color.
I'm currently running the latest phiremod and I've been getting scores between1700 and 1900 so its not just Honeycomb getting those high scores. I was close to selling this and getting something else but this latest RC4 changed my mind.
I think quadrant just spits out random numbers. My nook breaks 2k and my phone hits lik 1.7k. I run them at the same time, watch my phone blow through all the processor and io tests before my nook, then watch it triple the fps of my nook on the graphics tests, but then the nook gets a higher score? Not to mention the hardware in my phone (except for the screen) is superior in every way to my nook. This is repeatable. Quadrant is not great imho.
But i still think my nook is boss :-D
See, a lot of people talk about how Uunreliable Quadrant is as a benchmark, but among all my Andrid experience ive found it to be really accurate at portraying how well my devices are running! At least between my Nook Color, Droid X and OG Droid.
I'm not saying that this is a ridiculus Quadrant, not in comparison to CM7 or a phone or anything... I just think 1700 is pretty damn good for what's only supposed to be a PREVIEW of honeycomb. I think Honeycomb is great; like i said, i use the Preview as my daily driver despite its inherent flaws. What I've managed to achieve merely says to me that someday, when we have the Honeycomb source, things are going to be beastly on this OS.
I like that idea.
I am amazed that people still use the Honeycomb SDK port. I mean its neat but I couldn't use it as a daily driver.
In terms of Quadrant, it has known issues with Gingerbread causing it to score lower than it should. In addition, the ease that you can spoof the score shows that it isn't the most reliable benchmark.
That said, I can't wait for Ice Cream source to drop.
so is the HC worth useing daily? I'm currently using froyo but if I can find something I can use this class 10 SD card on as a daily I'd switch.
ieAnd said:
So I've been experimenting with CM7, the tablet tweaks and all that... but I was beginning to get fed up with it all, including my nigh-addiction to tweaking everything until it was almost-perfect, breaking it then starting all over. So I went back to my daily driver, good ol' Honeycomb V4 2nd Edition and threw Dalingrin's latest kernel on there, then popped off a quadrant just to see what was up...
So, yeah. I'm ridiculously excited for whatever the day we get actual Honeycomb source code.
Viva la Nook Color.
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just installed Honeycomb V4 2nd Edition on my nook, what other updates or tings should I update if there are any out there?
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Yeah, I'm shocked at myself really! Especially considering how much of a perfectionist I am when it comes to GUI smoothness; I've almost switched to WP7 countless times purely because of how smooth Metro UI is.
I think one of the advantages of the Honeycomb Preview is that I CAN'T tweak it any further. It's static, therefore I can focus on actually using it rather than trying to tweak it all the time. Plus, when applications do actually run they run very well. And Honeycomb is beautiful even when jittery. Matias Duarte should win awards. I'm glad we took him from Palm.
As to what you should do? You should hunt down Dalingrin's 1100MHz OC kernel, and then that's about all you can do as far as I can tell. Enjoy the Honeycomb Preview.
I've been using Deeper-Blue's original SDCard HCv4 as my daily driver for about a month ... minimal bugs, works great!
Tried HC v4 2nd on SDCard instead of eMMC ... got a lot of force closes, esp. with the google browser.
Also tried CM7 RC4 with Mad-Murdock's tablet tweaks ... almost makes me want to switch, esp. with great video support ... but I like the tablet email and other HC features too much
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I thought my Nook was kinda slow compaired to my MyTouch 4G so I thought I would check it..
nook/honeycomb is getting 1863 which is not too bad, faster than my Nexus One got...
What is everyone else getting?
CM7 Quadrant Error
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I thought my Nook was kinda slow compaired to my MyTouch 4G so I thought I would check it..
nook/honeycomb is getting 1863 which is not too bad, faster than my Nexus One got...
What is everyone else getting?
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Mine gets an "internal error" on "CPU Video Decoding." So, nothing yet.
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I thought my Nook was kinda slow compaired to my MyTouch 4G so I thought I would check it..
nook/honeycomb is getting 1863 which is not too bad, faster than my Nexus One got...
What is everyone else getting?
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My Score is kind of low. I got a 1164 I am running Nookie Froyo with a 1.1Ghz kernel.
Is honeycomb significantly faster?
It appears it gets hung for a second on Video and Audio decoding. My Motorola Droid is running Project Elite V5.2 overclocked at 1.1Ghz and it scores a 1832 quadrant score.
Roughly 1,050-1,100 on Autonooter 3.0 @1GHz.
My OG Droid on CM7 #13 gets 881 @800MHz. But it FEELS faster. It's odd that the NC doesn't see the immediate performance improvements brought on with Froyo like phones did. Maybe the ROM's just aren't as developed so intensely. Hopefully someone running CM7 for NC can chime in so we can compare.
duglas said:
I thought my Nook was kinda slow compaired to my MyTouch 4G so I thought I would check it..
nook/honeycomb is getting 1863 which is not too bad, faster than my Nexus One got...
What is everyone else getting?
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same configuration running off a Class 6 SDCard gets me ~1200 (just under the Droid X on the comparison screen). I thought this was great until I saw your score...
On CM7 Nightly v14 with CWM 3.0.1.0....
Quadrant testing died when it got to H.264 decoding. No DSP video yet.
I can't even get it to run on Stock rooted. After I click yet after the test it just gets a service error and shows black screen.
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My Score is kind of low. I got a 1164 I am running Nookie Froyo with a 1.1Ghz kernel.
Is honeycomb significantly faster?
It appears it gets hung for a second on Video and Audio decoding. My Motorola Droid is running Project Elite V5.2 overclocked at 1.1Ghz and it scores a 1832 quadrant score.
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This is something that has stuck me as odd, since i remember earlier Froyo builds that i ran getting well into 1600-1800+.. but like yours mine right now only gets ~1200..
Wow, dont know why you all are getting such low numbers, running HC v4 off EMMC I am getting 1800+ almost every time. Any insight on this?
benchmarks are just numbers, don't worry about your quadrant scores. worry on real world performance
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I 've just got a 2613 with Cyanogen 7 overclocked to 1.2.
1511 running off internal memory with CM7 Nightly 55 at 925Mhz
Quadrant is seriously flawed
I get anywhere from 3200 ~ 3700+ on my stock unrooted SGS 2
cm7 7.0.2 925mhz on SD card anywhere between 1600-1800
Just got everything set up after running the manual nooter and did some linpack and quadrant tests to see if there is any improvement over the old Eclair based rom. Here they are for those who care.
Used set CPU to run in performance mode for these tests.
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The linpack mflops looks great. I get 11 on a tweaked out 2.6.29 @800mhz
The quadrant isn't amazing but I think its at least an improvement over the stock 2.6.29 kernel. I get 1800-1900 running my latest test kernel @ 800mhz on Gingerbread(quadrant typically scores less in Gingerbread than Froyo unlike other benchmarks)
Looks like 2.6.32 has some potential.
Holy crap....
This is going to be great once we get kernel source and can undervolt/overlcock this sucka
Performance in general is pretty impressive. I dont know how they managed but at 800MHZ it feels just as smooth as CM7 at 1100. I am REALLY looking forward to getting this overclocked.
Flash is smoother for me in 1.2 than its ever been with any rom regardless of clock speed.
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Performance in general is pretty impressive. I dont know how they managed but at 800MHZ it feels just as smooth as CM7 at 1100. I am REALLY looking forward to getting this overclocked.
Flash is smoother for me in 1.2 than its ever been with any rom regardless of clock speed.
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There is a post somewhere else that includes an APK for the 1.2 Flash so that CM7 users can replace their current install. Apparently it was optimized specifically for the Nook Color and runs better than the Falsh that's available on the market.
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There is a post somewhere else that includes an APK for the 1.2 Flash so that CM7 users can replace their current install. Apparently it was optimized specifically for the Nook Color and runs better than the Falsh that's available on the market.
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My understanding is that it's only true for youtube for some reason, but not for other stuff. I think dal explained it in some thread.
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My understanding is that it's only true for youtube for some reason, but not for other stuff. I think dal explained it in some thread.
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It is true for any site that is optimized for flash on mobile. Youtube is so it is easy to use as an example. However any site can be optimised, it is just a matter of if it is or not. Not sure where i read it either maybe the cm7 user thread?
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It is true for any site that is optimized for flash on mobile. Youtube is so it is easy to use as an example. However any site can be optimised, it is just a matter of if it is or not. Not sure where i read it either maybe the cm7 user thread?
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This is what I've been saying. Unfortunately, the flash B&N uses is worse on videos that are not optimized for mobile. But it performs great on those videos that are for mobile. "Mobile" videos only have 40% CPU usage @ 600mhz. Thats pretty impressive for flash, just wish it applied to all videos.
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This is what I've been saying. Unfortunately, the flash B&N uses is worse on videos that are not optimized for mobile. But it performs great on those videos that are for mobile. "Mobile" videos only have 40% CPU usage @ 600mhz. Thats pretty impressive for flash, just wish it applied to all videos.
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I have found the exact opposite to be true. I go to a site that has videos not optimized for mobile and on CM7 they are simply not watchable. With the 1.2 flash its not perfect but certainly better than it is in CM7. Which is surprising because when im on CM7 i run 1100MHZ compared to the 800 with the 1.2 flash.
Anyone else have linpack scores on 1.2 they can post?
Linpack score sux
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Just got everything set up after running the manual nooter and did some linpack and quadrant tests to see if there is any improvement over the old Eclair based rom. Here they are for those who care.
Used set CPU to run in performance mode for these tests.
LINKPACK
score is 6.056 mflops, in 13.84 seconds, normal resolution 5.68, set cpu 925 mhz max/min running cyanogen 7.0.3 will all processes closed.
QUADRANT STANDARD
score is avg roughly 900 and i'm getting anywhere from 3 to 38 fps.
i've owned n1, m.droid, evo and now dinc that all ran cyanogen and never saw such low scores. i don't know if this nook color is just a little premature or that i'm putting too much emphasis on these scores but i believe there's a 2 ghz tablet around the corner with more horsepower. what do you think?
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Why did you bump this just to scatter crap?
Running CM7 and OC, I'm hitting quad scores of 2400-3000
Try messing with the NC more before you write it off.
I also agree...
If you are getting scores that low, then something is wrong, wrong, wrong.
I am operating on the CM 7.0.3 and have the thing OC'd at 1300.
I get consistent scores in the 2500 - 2900 range...
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This just in.
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Looks promising. Any thoughts?
Engadget link here.
I'm sorry, but that thing looks horrible. The borders are huge, and the buttons don't look comfortable to use at all.
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I'm sorry, but that thing looks horrible. The borders are huge, and the buttons don't look comfortable to use at all.
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Bezels are a good thing on an eReader... Ever actually read on your tablet?
Its basically just a Nook with a new name. We had the nook 10 months ago... No improvement.
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Its basically just a Nook with a new name. We had the nook 10 months ago... No improvement.
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^ This. It sounds VERY similar, but it's taken almost a year this to come out, and the NC is already fairly established (same thing with the Kindle Fire). It's the way of things. At least when you're ready to put the Nook into retirement, there should be a strong upgrade to go to.
It's a rooted Nook, which is a step up from the Fire....
Kobo Vox and an Easy Nook Color 2 Upgrade
The Kobo's most promising feature is definitely the AFFS+ display, something that could easily be added to the NC2. If it was just an updated NC then it should have bluetooth and FM in it. I was thinking that an easy NC2 update for B&N would be to:
1) Replace the IPS display with an AFFS+ one.
2) Enable hardware support for Bluetooth AND the FM radio.
3) ICS! Android 4.0
4) Video out?
I am not talking about an uber tab here, after all the NC is and will likely stay an e-reader primarily. It does what it needs to, and there is no reason to add more horsepower under the hood. But even if they only did what I suggest, and lowered the price it would likely fly...
They will probably not do it like that, and will probably f it up by taking out things that make it popular ( east rooting and booting from the card slot? ).
Still, for the least amount of investment, and maximizing their current designs lifespan that is definitely what I would do.
RageAgain said:
The Kobo's most promising feature is definitely the AFFS+ display, something that could easily be added to the NC2. If it was just an updated NC then it should have bluetooth and FM in it. I was thinking that an easy NC2 update for B&N would be to:
1) Replace the IPS display with an AFFS+ one.
2) Enable hardware support for Bluetooth AND the FM radio.
3) ICS! Android 4.0
4) Video out?
I am not talking about an uber tab here, after all the NC is and will likely stay an e-reader primarily. It does what it needs to, and there is no reason to add more horsepower under the hood. But even if they only did what I suggest, and lowered the price it would likely fly...
They will probably not do it like that, and will probably f it up by taking out things that make it popular ( east rooting and booting from the card slot? ).
Still, for the least amount of investment, and maximizing their current designs lifespan that is definitely what I would do.
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That sounds pretty good... of course with a slight bump in cpu and memory...a killer GPU is probably too much to ask for an ereader More seriously though, better speakers would be nice too and/or pen input.
I'm loving my Nook Color with cm7, but...........The scroll stutter in the app drawer and inside menus is just horrible. Even at 1.2 ghz.
I'm thinking of looking for a new rom, anyone know which one is the smoothest/fastest??
Unless...That is one of you knows how to butter this puppy up! Haha
Thanks
I ran the latest CM7.2 KANG release for a while, I think it was one of the best that I have tried. I am using CM9 nightlies now though...if you want stability and speed, get the KANG CM7.2 from the Nook Color Developer Forum here. Make sure you do his V6 Supercharger suggestion, and anything else he suggests...
Keep in mind though, that for the money these are good machines...but consider them ghetto tablets at best
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That is the 7.2 rom I used before I decided to switch to nightly cm9 builds...
Definitely the new MiRaGe KANG build, with V6 Supercharger. Pretty much lag-free!
Sounds good to me, I will back up and flash the kang one. Well, I know it's only a 160 dollar device. But 1 ghz used to be very fast. The HTC Evo, it was fast to me. So I would hope the nook at 1.2 ghz would be at least close XD
I will give that rom a go! Thanks dudes
Holy CRAP! CM7.2 KANG is..........SO....MUCH....FASTER... Jeez! I had no idea the nook color would zoom like this! Thanks guys
Make sure to install V6 Supercharger if you haven't already. It gets even better!
Try Phiremod 7.2
This is a very good rom smooth and you don't need V6
I don't think you need V6 supercharger for MiRaGe either. I'd imagine any gains from it would be small. I'm going to try it out though and see what difference it does make.
Well, you don't need a custom ROM either! Give it a try.
I haven't tried any of the a kang stuff yet and have only been running and updating the regular CM7s.
The question I have is can I do a Kang install over CM 7.1 just like a regular update, i.e. copy zip file onto boot directory of SD, then boot into recovery mode?
I am using the triple boot microSD with CM7.2 MiRage on it. The V6 script does not seem to have any significant effect. The CM7.2 itself is pretty smooth.
Using the same setup on one of my cards. It did seem to increase scrolling speed for me in some apps. YMMV, of course. Agree about smoothness. This is also pretty close to the most stable setup I have now, which is a SD card devoted to a single boot devoted to mag666' latest kang.
I have used every ROM out there and can say, without a doubt, that CyanogenMod 7.2.0 RC1-encore-Kang is the fastest and best running ROM I have ever seen. Everything works as it should, great ROM.
A few tips I try to follow to keep my Nook Color running as fast as possible:
- Stick with CM7.2 (and not CM9).
- Use LauncherPro as your launcher.
- Overclock to 1200 MHz (you may want to undervolt as well to offset increased battery usage).
- Keep compcache disabled.
- Use 16bit transparency
- Disable surface dithering
- Disable 32bit framebuffer (Nook Tweaks)
I've used over a dozen launchers (ADX, ADX EX, GO Launcher, Zeam, Lightning, Regina, Trebuchet, Nova, etc), and I always go back to LauncherPro. Nothing else is as quick and smooth as it is.
Opera usually is the quickest browser (Mini or Mobile).
Instead of using a browser for everything, try to find a dedicated app for it (such as your favorite forum, social site, or news site).
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- Overclock to 1200 MHz (you may want to undervolt as well to offset increased battery usage).
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I haven't a clue on what to set the voltages at and am hesitant because of all of the damage warnings I read about when messing with overclocked PC CPU voltages. I am assuming from Nook Tweaks, what are safe voltage ranges?
Crazy_Jew said:
I have used every ROM out there and can say, without a doubt, that CyanogenMod 7.2.0 RC1-encore-Kang is the fastest and best running ROM I have ever seen. Everything works as it should, great ROM.
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Agreed
Moadim Le Simcha
Ok, I found the undervolt thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443292&highlight=undervolt
CM 7.2 with the cpu at 1200 and the suggested voltage settings things seem to be working fine and am getting about a 8-10% battery drain per hour during websurfing and youtube viewing.
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Holy CRAP! CM7.2 KANG is..........SO....MUCH....FASTER... Jeez! I had no idea the nook color would zoom like this! Thanks guys
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Hoping my impression will be as good as yours. Generally love the way I've got things setup on my older version of CM7 but it just feels notably slower than both our 1st gen iPad and even my Samsung Epic. Got an extra Sandisk card enroute and hope to try it out this weekend.
CM7 Mirage CM 7.2 - RC1 4/17/12 build
I'm EXTREMELY impressed with the performance of the new 4/17 release. I was debating on selling the nook color due to sluggish performance.
Now after installing the CM7 Mirage CM 7.2 - RC1 4/17/12 build, and following the instructions by BitingChaos listed below.. my nook color turned into a speed demon!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24681708&postcount=14
"A few tips I try to follow to keep my Nook Color running as fast as possible:
- Stick with CM7.2 (and not CM9).
- Use LauncherPro as your launcher.
- Overclock to 1200 MHz (you may want to undervolt as well to offset increased battery usage).
- Keep compcache disabled.
- Use 16bit transparency
- Disable surface dithering
- Disable 32bit framebuffer (Nook Tweaks)
I've used over a dozen launchers (ADX, ADX EX, GO Launcher, Zeam, Lightning, Regina, Trebuchet, Nova, etc), and I always go back to LauncherPro. Nothing else is as quick and smooth as it is.
Opera usually is the quickest browser (Mini or Mobile).
Instead of using a browser for everything, try to find a dedicated app for it (such as your favorite forum, social site, or news site)."
Although quadrant scores aren't everything, I'll let the picture speak for itself
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Afternoon all now firstly this is not an add Ian in no way affiliated.
I tried out a program call L Speed found on the play store and after applying some settings my phone feels new again very snappy, antutus 3d section has never worked for me but after using this program it now works, don't know why but it does. Give it a try and see what you think.
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One of the kernel modifiers that works by altering setting in RAM. You can get improvements for sure but be careful.
I used to run a kernel modding app in KitKat ROM but now on Lollipop the phone runs nice without it so I don't use a kernel tuning app anymore.
I have Xposed but even then, only a minimal number of modules. You can create an unstable device by these types of mods.
Can you tell us which settings exactly you have in L Speed? A screenshot would be enough because when I tried it I didn't see any improvement
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I'm probably as big of a skeptic as you get when it comes to these miracle "speed up your phone now!" kind of apps, but hear me out:
I installed this after it popped up whilst lazily scrolling through the Play Store. I remembered reading a post title about it somewhere and figured I might as well laugh at the massive scam when it starts asking for IAPs or something.
But wow, it really helps. I mean it has only been running for about 30 minutes, so I can't say much for the battery life improvements etc, but here's what has noticeably improved thus far:
- "Smoothness": Enabling the UI tweaks rewarded me with buttery smooth scrolling, window switching, even SwiftKey (which, whilst being a great keyboard for a multi-lingual, has always fallen behind others in terms of smoothness) is now on IOS levels of responsive, for now. I'm running 5.1.1 (B324), which is already a massive improvement over the choppy mess that was 4.4.4, but this made animation smoothness on-par with the latest flagships.
- App loading times: Vastly improved. The HAM7 isn't bad at this, but not exactly great either. I'm assuming it's the IO tweaks that 'fixes' this, as app loading times are way quicker. Even the app switching window, which is notoriously slow to load up on the HAM7, opens up very hastily (not instantly, but MUCH faster than usual), even when you have 3-5 pages of apps open. Hell, even the camera doesn't waste time opening.
And perhaps the most impressive improvement: Faster streaming. I know, this sounds like snake-oil, right? Wrong. I live in East Africa, our internet here is horrifically slow compared to European countries (my company has a 7mb/s line, which is one of the fastest lines available in our area). Streaming a video in 1080p is something one can only dream of. I took a quick look at YouTube, ramping the quality up to 1080p, and it plays! I mean I still have to leave it for around ten seconds to buffer a little, but after that I'm golden. I'm baffled, I honestly don't want to believe it, but yet it's happening right before my eyes. I will test this on other streaming services (Netflix and ShowBox) later and update this post with my findings.
So there you go. A totally skeptical non-believer converted in 30 minutes. I can't tell you how this works, all I can say is that it does, at least in my case. The HAM7 running 5.1.1 really isn't bad in terms of every day performance, but this makes it a lot more bearable (I hate EMUI).
I'll update this post with further findings tomorrow.
My divice is unrooted and Benchmark result i better!?
ronnie72 said:
My divice is unrooted and Benchmark result i better!?
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Impossible. This application uses modifications that are impossible to make or you're unrooted.
I think what he is saying he hasn't used L Speed and gets a better score?
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I think what he is saying he hasn't used L Speed and gets a better score?
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Yes, not used L Speed and the phone never been rooted.
Well I don't know about your phone but this has given new life
To mine,very snappy.
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Lots of factors affect it. Rooting and modding can slow it down, for instance I can assure you installing ViPER4Android will slow it down, but sounds oh so good.
Don't use viper. But yes depending on the amount of apps etc does affect it. Using always on display now and love it and not really much of a battery hog, I love coming back to my phone and don't even touch it just glance to see if I have missed anything.
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That looks great, where do you get it from?
http://www.androidsage.com/2016/04/...and-samsung-galaxy-s7-on-your-android-device/
That's the link is not on play store.
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