If we have CM7 and kernels for 2.3, and leaks of 2.3 from the i9000 and are able to use gingerbread base from nexus s ( think thats what cm7 uses? i cant remember...so if its wrong just insert name of correct phone back there), why is it that we havnt seen anything other than Cyanogen mod and MIUI (which doesnt even count cause its still just the CM7 base) on the 2.3 homefront? I am by no means complaining, just kind of confused. I would think that devs would be chomping at the bit to get their hands on 2.3 for their phones and start their rom modding magic. Anyone have some insight on this other than some sort of sarcastic remark or derogatory comment? lol
we only have the aosp source. and with that why port a basic aosp rom if you can have cyanogen? also there is miui. these are probably the most requested roms on any android version on any phone. an m9 port would be nice but i think the devs that can make the aosp ports better are part of these two projects. so rather than waisting time porting aosp and doing something original and asking the cm7 guys how they fixed this or that they are helping the cm7 and miui projects. also there are still problems and limitations with cm vs samsung. cm7 cant use the camera to it's full abilities. also samsung music player supports more codecs. plus the samsung roms are easier to port allowing time to work on features and tweeks. the reason the i9000 gingerbread hasnt bee built into a captivate rom is that without kernel source the roms would not be as functional as a 2.2.1 port or even cm7 because they would have problems reorienting the sensor mapping and remapping the headset. when samsung source drops there will be much more gingerbread roms and when cm7 is official there will be spinoffs
No source, no kernel, no ROM.
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Hey guys, been out of the loop for a while as I've been settled on JPY for a few weeks now. However, I saw a friend flash his Desire today with Oxygen, a gingerbread-based AOSP ROM. All the SGS ROMs I can find so far are based on the stock Samsung firmware - is there any work being done on a full AOSP ROM like Oxygen or Cyanogen? I can't find any details about this anywhere.
I am very curious about this question. Because if answer is simply no, it's time to sell Galaxy S. Gingerbread will be the last update from Samsung and AOSP could be the future of this phone then CM7 for SGS seems to have big problems and it's the only AOSP ROM for SGS which I'm aware of...
What big problems?
I'm using CM7 for a month right now and it's pretty stable if i can say. Yes, it lacks some features and some bugs are not fixed yet (theres a workaround tho), but if you follow it's thread the progress they make are great. They're already into mainline, so probably it will reach RC status in a month/maybe less, who knows.
After the devs are done, i think there will be a custom ROM based on CM7/AOSP.
~drz
CM7 is getting there. And with Gingerbread coming out, that should make things easier for the dev.
Yes, but with no source then there is nothing big. GB leak, only helped them with "less" important stuff (FM radio, etc.)
~drz
Hi,
i am new to Nexus One Android Development and i am a bit confused.
There are so many Gingerbread ROMs out there and i cannot decide.
I firstly wanted to install MoDaCos Sense Build but that is buggy for me - so now i want Gingerbread on my N1.
Unfortunately there are CM7 based/stock ones/google AOSP's/GRI40s/2.3.2's/2.2.3's/pure google mods/OFIICIALS/Devs onlys etc. - Versions!
Can anyone be so kind to filtrate that a bit?
This shouldn't be a "Best GB-BUILD"-Thread - I just want a clean and stable Gingerbread running with my purchased launcherpro plus!
I don't want it bleading edge, but fast and stable!
Which one of the thousands out there should i run on my N1?
Hi bunnahabhain,
I have tried various gingerbread roms, most have had some annoying bugs like hspda freezing, random FCs. The one that works the best for me is the CM7 RC2 which is the equivalent of Gingerbread 2.3.3. It is yet to bug out on me and it runs very smooth. In fact i havent had to restart the phone since I installed the rom. Surprisingly it also takes less space on the phone then most roms I've tried.
Hope this helps. It is bleeding edge but it is very smooth and hasn't been buggy at all for me.
I am using the stock gignerbread, with launcher pro plus/setcpu and automatic task killer.
It runs very well, no crashes, no bugs, it's fast, I sugest you do the same.
Add a poll to thread and list available options for people to vote?
DONE - 8 by number
just chose the most favorite ones
Stock/Official/Vanilla are the same. Just what the names suggest really.
Cyanogenmod is by far the most widely used custom ROM. Many of the others are based off this, with various alterations being made to them. Close to Stock appearance but feature filled and very fast. Version 7 is in development now and two of the polled ROMS are in fact from this development.
There have been two Release Candidates which are considered 'stable', and there are ongoing 'Nightly' builds, (experimental), but which are really just a daily evolution of the development. As it stands the latest Nightly builds are very stable, very fast and well worth trying.
I am on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968396
Modified GRI40 (2.3.3 Gingerbread) ROM*
Rooted, De-odexed, Busybox, Apps2SD, Cache2SD, ZipAligned, Disabled Stock Recovery
THE BEST ROOM EVER ! No WONK !
m_mitashki said:
I am on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968396
Modified GRI40 (2.3.3 Gingerbread) ROM*
Rooted, De-odexed, Busybox, Apps2SD, Cache2SD, ZipAligned, Disabled Stock Recovery
THE BEST ROOM EVER ! No WONK !
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Trackball wake?
rzak said:
Trackball wake?
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No trackball wake on any Gingerbread ROMs derived from stock. No modification has been found to enable it.
On the other hand, they don't suffer from wonks like CM7 and any CM7-based ROM.
I was loving stock gingerbread but switched over to cm7 after missing trackball wake
MIUI gets Gingerbread on Friday, that will be my choice.
I am on pure googlemod now!
But don't think just that i chose a ROM that nobody voted for would leave this POLL ad absurdum
It seems that the base of that ROM is CM7-NIGHTLY, which is the thing to go for if you want more speed in the ROM with a custom kernel (otherwise no camera).
Because i wanted the stock GB style i firstly chose GEOs stock deodexed one, but switched after i got the mentioned camera probs.
Now, with redstars custom kernel it is the fastest ROM i have ever used on my N1 (42 Mflops in Linpack)
Unfortunately it is still miles away from this insane ROM for the HD2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
You can't imagine how fast and stable that ROM is, really!
Since it is open source the N1 DEVs could look into the code couldn't they?
sense or nothing
I am on the Geo build but I am waiting for a Sense UI gingerbread release. I am following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995445 but hoping Evil D can bring his magic to a GingerSense build
I've been using CM7 RC 2 after having been using enom's roms for froyo. It is pretty damn stable and lets you use trackball wake which lots of gingerbread roms don't support.
Hello everyone,
I was just curious how all these gingerbread ROMs for the Captivate are being released, and Cyanogen 2.3 for the Capitivate, having been worked on for months, is still only in pre-beta. I am not trying to be impatient, I know the devs are working hard to get cyanogen out ASAP, I was just curious why this was.
Thank you.
rcllcr said:
Hello everyone,
I was just curious how all these gingerbread ROMs for the Captivate are being released, and Cyanogen 2.3 for the Capitivate, having been worked on for months, is still only in pre-beta. I am not trying to be impatient, I know the devs are working hard to get cyanogen out ASAP, I was just curious why this was.
Thank you.
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simply put CM7 is being written and developed from "scratch" and the jvb jvh roms are ported.
Not to mention that the CM7 for captivate is running 2.3.4 so technically "we're" behind CM7
betadan said:
Not to mention that the CM7 for captivate is running 2.3.4 so technically "we're" behind CM7
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Not for long Most of the Devs are already working on JVH
AOSP is the way to go in the long run as more Samsung drivers get ported over. 2.4.x will probably never be ported to the Galaxy S phones by Samsung, but unless there are major kernel changes, upgrading CyanogenMod to 2.4 will happen relatively quickly.
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AOSP is the way to go in the long run as more Samsung drivers get ported over. 2.4.x will probably never be ported to the Galaxy S phones by Samsung, but unless there are major kernel changes, upgrading CyanogenMod to 2.4 will happen relatively quickly.
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I see, so once it is caught up with the other cyanogen supported phones, it will be on the same update cycle, and therefore be more sustainable when it comes to new releases of android?
Frankly cm7 is actually being developed, where as the other ginger bread releases are being cooked/tweaked. Samsung did 80% of the work then xcal kicked in the next 15%.
So to answer your question, the reason it is "behind" is because they are not using a pre optimized build, and they are developing from the ground up.
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Is there any chance that cyanogenmod of coming for the SXL? I recently upgraded my device from my old Nexus s and am missing the features of CM7
You would be better sending a PM to Cyanogen and see if he has any plans for it, other then that its waiting on someone elses good grace to Port it but it might not quite be the same as it was (less Cyanogen releases it then itll be grand!)
Having spoke to Capychimp he says that a port of CM7, MIUI or even ICS will need a custom kernel. So until we can get someone working on that its not going to happen
isnt there some custom kernals from core droid and such?
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isnt there some custom kernals from core droid and such?
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Yeah there is a custom kernel for BinDroid, but that is like a heavily tweaked version of stock whereas CM7 is AOSP and therefore would need a completely different kernel, as I understand it... correct me if I'm wrong
ahhhh thanks for that
Do you have any idea on how long it would take for someone to make a new kernal?
For someone who knew what they were doing it probably wouldn't take that long, but most developers on here are supporting multiple devices and probably don't have the time to try it at the minute...
Why nobody wants to complete the ICS port from SGS II to SGS? There are themes that imitate well stock ROMs, but the biggest drawback is that you can not use sliding left right to call or send messages. There Ex dialer but does not compare to feeling of Samsung dialler. Escuse my bad English!
I totally agree with you.
I tried some ICS roms and finally I came back to stock rom just for the feeling and the easy of use it provides.
Every new rom of ICS or JB for the SGS comes from Nexus S or other phones and it doesn't have the appearance or the functionality of stock GB roms.
Apart from that, every custom ICS or JB rom is worth and the developers deserve every credit and thank you in the world but I also wonder...
Is it so difficult to take the original SGS II rom for ICS and adjust it for our beloved SGS???
I'd like to have Samsung experience with an ICS or JB ROM.
Ifind Touchwiz very user friendly and efficient for all the basic tasts, and I don't find something equivalent in ICS "nude" ROMS.
It exists some ICS ROM with some parts of Touchwiz, but you don't have the full integration you can find in stock ROMS.
I think it's impossible to directly port SGS2 or SGS3 tou our old SGS.
Source code is not available for stock ROMS, so it's very difficult to modify it to adapt it to another device.
The only way is to mix binairies and edit some config files.
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I'd like to have Samsung experience with an ICS or JB ROM.
Ifind Touchwiz very user friendly and efficient for all the basic tasts, and I don't find something equivalent in ICS "nude" ROMS.
It exists some ICS ROM with some parts of Touchwiz, but you don't have the full integration you can find in stock ROMS.
I think it's impossible to directly port SGS2 or SGS3 tou our old SGS.
Source code is not available for stock ROMS, so it's very difficult to modify it to adapt it to another device.
The only way is to mix binairies and edit some config files.
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I can't understand why is it so easy to make a Nexus ICS rom work quite good on a SGS and is not the same for the SGS II rom.
Maybe a developer of ICS can provide more information.
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I can't understand why is it so easy to make a Nexus ICS rom work quite good on a SGS and is not the same for the SGS II rom.
Maybe a developer of ICS can provide more information.
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Because Nexus S has the same hardware as Galaxy S and it's very easy to take a binary or a driver from one to install it on the other one.
Android source code is available, but not Touchwiz and Samsung add ons code. You can't modify or recompile Samsung stuff, so it's harder to port.