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Android running VERY slow?

I updated to the 4.1.99
and it is running veryyyyyy slow... even after I upgraded to extension 3.
What can I do to speed it up? (I have already closed all running applications)
or will upgrading to 4.1.999 make it faster?
Help.. really, I feel like I have an 80 year old phone

that is the reason 4.1.999 was released, to fix bugs in 4.1.99. yes, it will be faster, also if you don't have a linux-swap partition, i recommend getting one.

Linux-swap makes just about everything faster.

Uhhmmmm I have linux swap, on my SD and CM 1.4.999 (3 nines) ROM ran so slow that I almost chucked my pone at the wall before NANDroiding. So does anyone have reports of there CM Rom being majorly increased inspeed after upgrading to 1.4.9999 (4 nines)?

999 ran great, and 9999 runs really good. did you ever wipe your rom and run a fix_permissions to clear everything up

I had that problem with 4.1.99 and 4.1.999 till i wiped/factory reset a few times for OCD satisfaction and reformatted (not just wiped) my sdcard. If you aren't super computer savvy, amon_RA's newest recovery image will give you a one click option for formatting and partitioning sd card without knowing or inputing script.

Ya I wiped but I never ran fix_permissions, ill try it.

it took me awhile to get 99999 working i lost root, so i have to start from scratch.

nailhernick! said:
it took me awhile to get 99999 working i lost root, so i have to start from scratch.
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wow 5 nines, what are you doing giving cy a little side funny biz

No funny business thats what i thought it was called

Wipe, wipe, wipe.
Run Swapper with the recommended settings.
Get a class 6 SD.
?????
Profit.
oh, and format your ext2 using Ra's recovery image every flash.
I'm using RAv1.2.0G and can format the ext2 w/o deleting data from my
FAT partition. It's nice and fixes most probs going from ROM to ROM.

Optimizing android performance

Hello, I would like to know what steps that I can take to increase the performance of android on my vogue. I am using myn's warm donut rom, with the system installed on the nand and the data installed on my ext2 partition on my sd card. I have heard that Its a good ideal to enable swapping, but I do not know how to enable it. I already have my 8GB class 6 sd card partitioned with one fat partition, one 256MB ext2 partition, and one 1GB ext2 partition (for Data). If anyone has any suggestions or tips, please let me know. Thanks!
PS: is there a way to overclock my vogue while using android? I have tried using the clock.sh file from mssmison's legendary build, but that didn't work.
EDIT: Can i use an ext3 or ext4 instead of ext2 for the partitions on the sd card?

Soon there will be an app for overclocking. Myn is currently working on it.
Other that that, make sure you're always on the latest nbh and Myn release.
Get yourself a task manager and be mindful of what processes you actually need.

Use clearcache often.

go into dev tools/development settings and set the window and transition animation to OFF. i noticed that not only does everything open super quick but it did increase the overal performance

you can't use ext3 or 4 no. First thing is to make sure if you are running data on your sdcard that you are using a fast sd card (not a cheap one).
That's what is giving you the biggest performance hit right now.
There is an OC app coming but to be honest it really should be running quite snappy for you.

Thanks guys for all of the info. I have just one more question. should I enable swapping on my android? Advanced task manager usually reports that I have around 46-40MB of free ram.

If you have a lot of free memory already, there is no reason to use swap.

Ok, I have one last question (I apologize if I'm being a bit annoying). I tried installing and using Adfree on my vogue, but when I run it, it says "Cannot locate the 'cat' util on your system". Does anyone know how I can fix this? also, when my phone is connected to my charger, my phone's 3g speeds are really good, but when It's not on the charger, the 3g slows down. Normally I'm ok with it, but it may make playing some games online a bit more difficult when off the charger. Is there some way I can fix this? Thanks!

slow88lx said:
Soon there will be an app for overclocking. Myn is currently working on it.
Other that that, make sure you're always on the latest nbh and Myn release.
Get yourself a task manager and be mindful of what processes you actually need.
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Can you install a new .nbh without updating the release you are running, or do you need to wipe the phone every time?

conanford said:
Can you install a new .nbh without updating the release you are running, or do you need to wipe the phone every time?
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you can flash nbh without wiping system or data

ROM - Deodexed with root, newest busybox, supports JAC kernel, no more lag fix

This has been updated to be deodexed+root+busybox only (though it still supports JAC kernel out of the box). At this point there are so many different lag fixes that it's hard to keep up with them all.
What it does have:
ROOT
No .odex files (deodexed)
Newest Busybox
ext manipulation files and libs, so it makes it easier to e2fsck or tune2fsck if you want ext4.
Also thanks to eugene373 for his work in establishing a baseline update.zip without which this would have taken a great deal more work.
Should work in clockwork, doesn't seem to need a wipe. If you have problems, use regular recovery, just rename it to "update.zip" on the root of your sdcard and it should flash just fine.
WARNING:
This should be completely safe. Nonetheless, should loss of job/loss of fertility/nuclear war ensue, I am not responsible.
Instructions:
1. Load the .zip file onto the root of your internal SD card (/sdcard)
2. Using Clockwork recovery, do "Install zip from SD card", then "Choose zip from sdcard", choose the VibrantDeodexed.zip, and choose "Yes"
2b.(ONLY If you don't have Clockwork) rename the download to "update.zip" and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then reboot into recovery and choose "Update packages".
3. (Optional) Flash JAC's kernel with ODIN using the directions specified HERE It is more stable and gets better benchmarks but there do seem to be some issues with the screen taking a while to wake up.
http://www.getyourboneon.com/VibrantDeodexed1_2.zip
NOTE: The first boot takes a long time because it has to dexopt stuff.

Version 1.0:
Just stock and rooted w/busybox
Version 1.1:
Uses the latest version of busybox and comes with support for JAC kernel out of the box (no need to flash the init.d update.zip and supersedes my method if his kernel is flashed.)
Version 1.2:
Updated busybox, added ext tools. Removed all lag fixes, though it will still work with the JAC kernels.
There are so many lag fixes out there at the moment that I didn't want to "lock in" people to a particular one.

Part of the high quadrant score is the 90 million triangles/sec. The data script boosts the data score.
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what is the ext hack? and how does it make the phone faster?

the ext hack puts the data and dalvik cache on the sdcard on an ext2/3 partition...
it brought my quadrant score from 850-950 up to 1400-1500
its like apps2sd but the apps part is still on the phones internal memory...
original link is here for the hack--http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739647
anomalous, thanks for all your hard work...
so if we get a good deodexed rom, someone could compile JIT for our 2.1 right?

junkdruggler said:
the ext hack puts the data and dalvik cache on the sdcard on an ext2/3 partition...
it brought my quadrant score from 850-950 up to 1400-1500
its like apps2sd but the apps part is still on the phones internal memory...
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why does the phone run faster with the data stored externaly? or is it because of the partition type?

im not quite sure, I would have figured our internal mem had a faster transfer rate than an sdcard, but Im on a class 2 and still getting better results... so it cant be a faster transfer rate...

@freedom: put simply, EXT formats run way faster than Fat32, which is what the rest of the storage is.
wiki: EXT3 (common format) and ext4 (latest)
edit: better explanation here
However, I'd most love to see either one of the internal storage (app storage or the other internal) finding a way to be put into EXT3, as that would probably run better than any sdcard.

Just so everyone Knows, the Format via the update script don't work, still trying to find the correct command for it....
But, in clockworkmod, just format the system / data / cache partition's before flashing.

designerfx said:
@freedom: put simply, EXT formats run way faster than Fat32, which is what the rest of the storage is.
wiki: EXT3 (common format) and ext4 (latest)
edit: better explanation here
However, I'd most love to see either one of the internal storage (app storage or the other internal) finding a way to be put into EXT3, as that would probably run better than any sdcard.
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Er, the internal storage is "rfs", samsung's proprietary fs. (And the read/write speed of fat32 tends to be a little faster than ext2, and TONS faster than ext3/4 - journals slow it down in exchange for stability after crashes)
The increase in speed is just that - faster underlying hardware. The onboard "sd card" (same "disk" that /data is partitioned out of) is heartbreakingly slow.

Disconn3ct said:
The increase in speed is just that - faster underlying hardware. The onboard "sd card" (same "disk" that /data is partitioned out of) is heartbreakingly slow.
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Is there an app to test thr transfer speed on the phone? I ask because I have moved my data/dalvik to ext3 on a class 6 sd card. When I benchmark reads from Linux the speed and seek time between internal and my sd are not that great yet the actual performance of the phone is as different as night and day.
I wonder if this is more an issue with the rfs implementation than a hardware speed issue. My other thought is that maybe the benefit comes from having a separate I/O lane for loading data/dalvik. Not sure the hardware actually supports multiple/parallel I/O but it's a theory.
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How did you de-odex the the core.jar? I've unodexed the whole thing myself as well, as well as optimize the heck out of every jpeg, png and gif inside the apks (excluding 9.png's of course) but I'm having an issue deodexing core.jar. Did you just replace it with the one from the deodex'd SGS ROM?

FastKatt said:
Is there an app to test thr transfer speed on the phone? I ask because I have moved my data/dalvik to ext3 on a class 6 sd card. When I benchmark reads from Linux the speed and seek time between internal and my sd are not that great yet the actual performance of the phone is as different as night and day.
I wonder if this is more an issue with the rfs implementation than a hardware speed issue. My other thought is that maybe the benefit comes from having a separate I/O lane for loading data/dalvik. Not sure the hardware actually supports multiple/parallel I/O but it's a theory.
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I'll see what I can do to test it out this afternoon. (If you want to jump the gun, what I'm figuring is finding a static-linked arm version of bonnie++ or similar. Booting recovery, mount data or sdcard - not both - and test. Reboot recovery, test the other one. Maybe test dbdata and external sd as well, but the interesting numbers will be the first two - onboard-with-rfs and onboard-with-vfat..)

ivanmmj said:
How did you de-odex the the core.jar? I've unodexed the whole thing myself as well, as well as optimize the heck out of every jpeg, png and gif inside the apks (excluding 9.png's of course) but I'm having an issue deodexing core.jar. Did you just replace it with the one from the deodex'd SGS ROM?
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Honestly, used the ROM kitchen for most of it; it uses a brute-force approach to sort out dependencies. Only one I had to do manually was TouchWizCalendar.apk (because it needed both twframework.jar and com.google.android.maps.jar). I'll work on getting the update script working during work later today.

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Honestly, used the ROM kitchen for most of it; it uses a brute-force approach to sort out dependencies. Only one I had to do manually was TouchWizCalendar.apk (because it needed both twframework.jar and com.google.android.maps.jar). I'll work on getting the update script working during work later today.
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Which ROM kitchen? I used my own script. Does the ROM boot up and run doing it that way? Should be interesting to play with.

Hmm, got the update script working almost perfect, but now it causes crashes. Seems to be missing dbus.conf.

OP updated - it works.

I did something very noobish.
I formatted the cache, system and data and forgot to throw the update.zip file onto the internal sd card prior to doing this. I can get into the stock recovery but as far as rebooting the phone to put the update on the internal storage I can't do that. I am able to take out the 2g memory (avatar) and load the update.zip on there but, of course, the stock recovery won't recognize that.
Is there a way to put the update.zip onto the internal memory in the position that I am in? Is there anything I can do?
I think I just made a HUGE no-no.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

theMAGNUM said:
I did something very noobish.
I formatted the cache, system and data and forgot to throw the update.zip file onto the internal sd card prior to doing this. I can get into the stock recovery but as far as rebooting the phone to put the update on the internal storage I can't do that. I am able to take out the 2g memory (avatar) and load the update.zip on there but, of course, the stock recovery won't recognize that.
Is there a way to put the update.zip onto the internal memory in the position that I am in? Is there anything I can do?
I think I just made a HUGE no-no.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you tried connecting your phone to your computer while at the recovery, and see if you can access it via ADB?

ArbitrageMan said:
Have you tried connecting your phone to your computer while at the recovery, and see if you can access it via ADB?
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No adb shell doesn't find my device

[Q] Nook Color honeycomb

Does anyone know how to test if a bootable sdcard with nookie honeycomb actually works before you test it out on the nook color? thnx
btw i used the process that was on this site http://theunlockr.com/2011/02/07/how-to-load-honeycomb-android-3-0-on-the-nook-color-usd-method/

Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.

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Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.
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I second this. By default, all the Main Roms for Nookie Froyo and Nookie Honeycomb have no features enabled that will touch your Nook Color. The only thing it touches on the NC is the Cache Partition in order to prevent too many writes to the SD and to also speed things up. Anything done there won't screw up your NC in a Million years and Switching back to Stock and doing a few things will wipe any evidence. Or if really paranoid you can Flash back to Factory to ensure all is wiped.
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thnx u guys, But i have another problem. i succesfully installed the honeycomb and got it to work on the nook color. But when I go to my computer with the sd card plugged in, it says that i only have 115 mb of data on the card. I have an 8 gb card. It's not left on the card, it says 115 mb out of 115 mb of data, even after i deleted everything. Anybody know how to restore it back to the 8 gb data amount thnxx

NookColor Format and partition your SD card back to a usable state

Opinion
Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.

I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.

Well...its very promising for being in the early stages of development
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Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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jlt220 said:
Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.
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i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
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I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.
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if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great

luigi90210 said:
i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great
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I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.

tylrdoan said:
Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.

SD Card Partitions
while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition

fugitoid said:
I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.
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i was wondering if i put honeycomb on my nook color, not on the sdcard, how would i do it. The instructions on that site only says how to make a bootable sd card. And i was using HC on a level 4 sd card and it said that u need a level 6. But i was still able to get it to run. The honeycomb on the sd card level 4 was pretty slow. i was wondering if i got it on my NC, would it be faster. If it would, can someone show me how?

Just follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071

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I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.
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Nope lots of lag still. Its ok not complaining. Lots of fc in dolphin too. Back to phiremod 2.2 for awhile.

You have to remember that the Honeycomb that was Ported is the Preview Release, think Demo version. It wasn't ported from (pretty much)scratch like Froyo was. It is more of a Rom hack. For a better performing version we have to wait for Honeycomb's Official Full release. In perspective, it's amazing how much deeper-blue got done with just the Preview image.
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GonzoTheNose said:
while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition
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Not picking on you but it's actually 4 partitions.
1=Boot (Basically redirects to the Android on the SD)
2=System (Holds the main OS files of Honeycomb)
3=Data (Where all you're settings and other data are)
4=SDcard (This partition is used as a stand in for a Physical External SDcard)
Also the easiest/simplest way to access the 2, 3, and 4 partitions is to use linux. Burn a LiveCD if you don't want to Install, although Ubuntu can be Installed without Partitioning or other such normal 2nd OS needs. Just get the Windows installer from http://ubuntu.com
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SD Card and Honeycomb 3.0 v4 image
I've been looking for an answer throughout the forums on this question but can't seem to find anything. The problem: I used the Honeycomb v4 image with WinImage. The SD card was originally 8 GB. The image file is 4 GB with approximately 600 MB or so of free space. Missing: 4 GB that was on the card.
1. Can I use a utility under Windows to get the free space allocated on the SD card that remains? If so, how?
2. Is there an option with WinImage to allocate the additional space on the SD card as free space and include it as part of the image that is being written to the SD card?
3. If I need to restore my SD card back to 8 GB, can that be done in Windows Explorer (not sure that Windows will pick up the full 8 GB as I haven't tried that yet).
Thanks.

Ohh, you have that problem. Don't know where you've been looking but that has been asked and answered many times. The problem is that when you install Froyo or Honey to the SD it makes 4 partitions like I listed above, but Windows can only see the First Partition and only Formats the First partition. The easiest way to fix is to put it in UnRooted Stock and Format it from Settings. If you don't have that you can Burn a Linux or GParted Live CD and Format it from their.
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[Q] EXT2 cache partition a big fail for me !! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Does anyone out there know what causes 4EXT CWM and Amon Ra all (with custom tools) all to fail in regards to seeing a formatted cache partition on EXT-2.
I have DONE EVERYTHING I can possibly think of, from using Gpart in Ubuntu, to the phone itself. Many times in the past I have made it would just leave my 2 Gig cache partition empty because NOTHING works EVER!...
Did I miss something, can you even have 4 separate functional partitions with the Nexus 1 ?
The closest I have come to something really functional is with 4EXT, it seems to go through all the stages but when I check alignment I only get the first 2 partitions (fat-32 and EXT-1) EXT-2 says it is unformatted for some odd reason! This has been performed using a full card wipe on an external source. Even still everything is seems to go as planned until I check the card. With 4EXT I attempt to force a ext3 or 4 format and it restarts the recovery ! When I check A2SDGUI it says I only have 15 megabytes for cache.
I have used black rose and set it to 220/15/201 (dla5244), tried the latest versions of 4EXT and wasted many hours before posting...
CAN ANYONE HELP !!

Download SD Formatter from here, run the program and choose under Options:
FORMAT TYPE: FULL (OverWrite)
FORMAT SIZE ADJUSTMENT: ON
This will format your µSD (be sure to backup your important stuff). When finished, try to make an ext4 partition with 4EXT recovery. You only need one ext4 partition (so no 2nd) and no swap.

Thank you for the fast response but I have tried that. Except I want this phone to work optimally and I have figured everything else out so it is hard to settle for mediocrity. I mean I know that 1 SD-EXT partition works... Even 1 + fat32 and SWAP but I can NEVER have the phone identify the SD-EXT2 partition... no matter what... In partition magic (terrabyte bootit) and of course Gpart in Ubuntu all indicate that everything is great. Except the phone doesn't use the partition and like I was saying before the 4EXT shows it as unformatted after it's format. When I force a format on the partition the software reboots !?!... And if I leave it claiming it's unformatted even though we may think it is, QND's MIUI can only see 15 megabyte cache partition !
But then why not just go back to stock roms and one partition? To your point it's hard to step back and use something less inclined for performance when it should work ? no ?
I know I am a NOOB BUT I also know that it seems like no one out there can offer CLOSURE on the matter. like "ohh that's because the N1 cannot identify a EXT2 partition" or "ohh... that's your SD card's fault it isn't aligned right etc."
I mean I can see others have had this problem and gave up, I don't want to give up unless it is a limitation of the hardware (?sd card?)
Another way to look at it is although beautiful and helpful for most... 4EXT should be focused on getting that to work, I would think... To your point everyone is confused and shouldn't have more than 2 partitions ? Doesn't seem right to me.
Anyways if you have any other ideas OR anyone else can think of a solution lets do it I want to invest time into this and make it work !!
Sincerely! !

Why should you have more than 2 partitions on your µSD? 1 fat32 for your pictures and videos and stuff, and if you don't have enough space for your apps, 1 ext4 for A2SD (maximum 1GB).
Swap is not necessary and in fact slows your system down. A thread about swap is somewere to be found here.
And why the 2GB cache partition? You already have a 15MB cache partition on your phone.. 220/15/201.
You really don't need more than 2 partitions on your µSD.

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I am willing to accept that you are right that it isn't needed. But I am not using A2SD, I am using XPART. According to the guides I am read, the best way is with 3 or 4 partitions (Swap being the option). The Cache partition on the other hand makes sense because even with titanium backup I can see my 60 or so apps are storing a couple hundred megs in cache. So this way a dedicated partition for processing things once instead of multiple times would provide the fastest solution. Being that the n1 is not the top performer anymore (still my fave though ), any extra speed should help when I am using my phone day to day.
The QND MIUI mod by jbbandos has the following about XPART :
"You can use it with one FAT32 and one ext4 partition, as A2SD, which seems to be the more stable setup, but the recommended setup for speed is one FAT32, one large ext4 (for your data partition), one smaller ext4 (cache), and a swap partition. I'm not that much of a fan of a swap partition, as I am always afraid it will wear out the SD card precociously, but most people report it working well, and I prefer the single ext4 for stability, but YMMV. "
you can read more here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084726
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Anyways that is what I want, and I will invest the time to get it. I believe that 4EXT is primarily in development to perform this function. But I have a problem, with the results. I realize that it may not be necessary but I would like to know the WHY as to why this doesn't work.
AS ALWAYS thank you for you help none the less..

Never used XPART, I didn't know they recommend this. I never used apps to ext scripts longer than a few days.
This is because I'd rather install 10 crappy apps less, than having a slower system. Then again, if I would use an apps to ext script, I would definitely go for stability .
Unfortunately I don't know what you could do now..

I found my previous QND build with XPROT using blackrose was good for like 7 months !!! I just wanted to update and get it working properly. I would HIGHLY recommend it as you phone sees like 1 gig of internal mem so all apps that have widgets are useful and don't need to go to SD. In my opinion it was more stable than stock !!! Honestly, great tool.

OH yeah and it is also much faster I have found !