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I just flashed CM7 on my Nook Color last night. While it looks and works great on the 7" screen I did notice some things were a bit too small and hard to read. You can always increase font sizes in specific applications but that's not a consistent solution to the problem. After experimenting with different DPIs, I found 187 to be okay but still a bit too small in some areas, 240 to be too large, and 204 to be just about perfect, allowing me to keep font sizes set to normal in applications and the handle on the notification tray remains in the center. Blurriness hasn't bothered me too much yet. I'm curious what values other people are using.
As an aside, why does increasing the DPI make elements larger and not the reverse? Thinking of it as "dots per inch," I would think more dots within an inch means a rendered element would fit into a smaller space...
Honestly, I've found the default 161 quite usable so I haven't played with it for quite some time.
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hololight said:
Honestly, I've found the default 161 quite usable so I haven't played with it for quite some time.
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Ditto. 240 (and such) just create icons wayyyy to big for me. I have a high res screen, i want to use it as such.
I personally like 140, however you lose "My Apps" ability in the market at this DPI.
The default 161 with a different font applied works for me. (The font is mentone, in case you were wondering.)
I tried 180 for awhile but that screwed up the formatting on a lot of apps.
Default for me. Tried many others and they either made the icons look big and stupid or really screwed up formatting in some apps.
I've been using 187 for about a month now. I think it looks nice, and really helps with the close-to-edge unresponsiveness by having slightly bigger objects to poke. I enjoy spending unreasonable amounts of time crafting custom UI's, and certain setups really pop with higher LCD density settings. I ran 210 for a while combined with a really sleek super simple interface. Ended up scraping it because it required an insane amount of widgets and 500 megs of RAM just wasn't enough.
Play around with the popular settings. Personal preference trumps what ever you'll read here.
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I just stick with 161.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
I need to use 160 for some apps to go fullscreen (Google Reader & FieldRunners). But this kills My Apps in the market. Does anyone know a DPI that will scale these apps correctly and keep the market working 100%?
JonMayer said:
I need to use 160 for some apps to go fullscreen (Google Reader & FieldRunners). But this kills My Apps in the market. Does anyone know a DPI that will scale these apps correctly and keep the market working 100%?
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Fieldrunners works at any DPI if you turn off compatibility mode. The only fix for GoogleReader is to use a different program
Market works fine at 161+
Thanks for the info on the game. I'm going to reboot and try that out now. I used to love that game on my iPod Touch.
I figured the Reader app just hasn't been updated in forever is why. I'll stick with my 161 then. I like the size of everything on the screen and it's still comfortable for me to read.
I use the default setting..
If you have the new Market, I would recommend using 160.
160 will be the new default as soon as more folks get the update Market.
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If you have the new Market, I would recommend using 160.
160 will be the new default as soon as more folks get the update Market.
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My first thought when the new Market appeared was, "OMG I hope it works at 160 so I can have both my Market and Google Reader working at the same time!"
And.... so far so good! Woooooooooooooot!
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If you have the new Market, I would recommend using 160.
160 will be the new default as soon as more folks get the update Market.
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SiMi clock doesn't display correctly at 160.
It doesn't display correctly at 161, either, but it's worse at 160.
161 leaves a column of pixels unused on the right side in portrait, where the wallpaper shows through the clock's background.
160 makes the clock's background very thick, and overlaps my power button widget in landscape mode.
I've been using 169. This creates the least bit of widget overlap between the clock and power bar, and also makes the clock cover the entire row in portrait. It makes desktop icons a tad blurry, though. Everything else displays fine.
gadzooks64 said:
My first thought when the new Market appeared was, "OMG I hope it works at 160 so I can have both my Market and Google Reader working at the same time!"
And.... so far so good! Woooooooooooooot!
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Sorry to burst your balloon. After a couple of reboots, My apps disappears (just like before).
I was running CM7 -197 build on SD card with ADW Launcher EX. Due to the know Market issue, I would change the LCD density to 160 dpi to regain the Market. Each time that I would do this, my screen would squeeze all the icons into the middle 3/4 of the screen leaving a gap at the top and bottom where no icons could be located. If I returned the resolution to 161, my full screen would return and my icons would be spaced correctly. This morning I loaded the -200 build which has the 160 dpi built-in and I am back to all my icons crowded into the middle of the screen.
Has anyone else encountered this? If so, is there something that I can do to fix or correct? I have looked at all the ADW Launcher EX settings but see nothing that helps.
As a side note, I can run the ADW Launcher that comes with CM7 and everything is spaced correctly at 160 dpi. I do, however, prefer the icon and icon text settings that the EX version allows and would like to run it if I can get it to work correctly.
Thanks, in advance, for any help.
this may be a long shot but try changing your columns and rolls...
fix
Menu
More
ADWSettings
UI Settings
Icons
Uncheck Density hack
Done!
I can't explain how long it took me to find that...
Thanks for these suggestions. I had not tried either one until now. Unfortunately, neither suggestion worked for me. I tried a reboot after unchecking the density hack but my screen is still showing the icon rows and columns in the middle 3/4 of the screen.
If I cannot find a solution I guess I will just stick with the regular ADW Launcher. I just wish there was a way to get the icons to be a little bigger. Maybe I will just step up the power of my reading glasses.
I have the same issue. I also believe it is caused by the screen layout, not dpi. My setup is 7 rows x 8 columns (looks better to me when switching back and forth between portrait and landscape). No change when I change lcd density, but if I add more rows, the gaps disappear.
btw, I've had density hack unchecked the whole time.
I don't mind it so much because my screen is pretty full anyway, the gap is a nice visual break.
Might try unchecking compatability mode.
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Might try unchecking compatability mode.
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I've always had that unchecked as well. The only thing I've changed that successfully gets rid of the gaps is having at least 8 rows.
hikersc, how many rows and columns do you have?
tyderian said:
I've always had that unchecked as well. The only thing I've changed that successfully gets rid of the gaps is having at least 8 rows.
hikersc, how many rows and columns do you have?
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I have 5 columns and 7 rows. As mentioned, I like to increase the size of the icons (and icon text).
I looked but could not find a setting for "compatibility mode". Could someone let me know and I will try that?
Thanks for everyone's help.
I would guess he means the compatability setting in Spare Parts.
I have the same issue. I have tired all of the above fixes... None of them have worked except changing the DPI, but that removes the market apps.
I am on Cm7 nightly 206 with the most up to date version of ADW ex. Does anyone else have any ideas? Even with more rows and columns there is still a gap of about 3/4 of an inch on both sides, or top and bottom depending on orientation.
Solved... sorta
The issue is definitely with ADW EX and the new fancy-pants dock bar.
The good news is that you can easily get your screen real estate back, the bad is that until ADW fixes this you wont be able to have your familiar 3-5 icon dock, you'll have to make the new "hidden" dock your primary
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Main Dock Style
None (expand desktop)
The new bar is still persistent when you scroll across all screens... I'll get used to it... heck, I might even learn to like it.
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The issue is definitely with ADW EX and the new fancy-pants dock bar.
The good news is that you can easily get your screen real estate back, the bad is that until ADW fixes this you wont be able to have your familiar 3-5 icon dock, you'll have to make the new "hidden" dock your primary
UI Settings
Main Dock
Main Dock Style
None (expand desktop)
The new bar is still persistent when you scroll across all screens... I'll get used to it... heck, I might even learn to like it.
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Wow!...Thanks! This does, indeed work. I would prefer the old dock or at least an option to have the old versus the "fancy pants" new one but at least I can adjust the icon and icon text size and not have the big gaps at top and bottom (or worse...a crippled Market).
To tell you the truth, I have been looking at the regular ADW icons for so long I might just stick with that. None the less, thanks for coming to the rescue. I had tried a number of different things but never found the solution. Great Job!
mborzill said:
The issue is definitely with ADW EX and the new fancy-pants dock bar.
The good news is that you can easily get your screen real estate back, the bad is that until ADW fixes this you wont be able to have your familiar 3-5 icon dock, you'll have to make the new "hidden" dock your primary
UI Settings
Main Dock
Main Dock Style
None (expand desktop)
The new bar is still persistent when you scroll across all screens... I'll get used to it... heck, I might even learn to like it.
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Thank you so much! I have been pounding my head trying to get this to work.
What are you doing exactly when you lower it, and what do you get from it?
I saw a few threads about it but they're all procedures and instructions.
It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
It is most useful to me where it can display much more in the same screen area. Some apps are not multidpi friendly and do not show correctly, eg the dailer and some games.
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It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
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When you say "it just makes things on the screen smaller," is it the icons or other stuff onscreen getting smaller or the screen getting bigger? I'm using GoLauncher EX and I was wondering about that setting on custom rows/columns that goes up to 10. I was wondering how would that fit.
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It is most useful to me where it can display much more in the same screen area. Some apps are not multidpi friendly and do not show correctly, eg the dailer and some games.
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So also I guess that's why a lot of the "lower DPI"-related threads are about looking for compatible apps. Thanks!
Do many people tweak their DPI? Can you share examples of significant advantages of doing so that's worth the hassle of looking for apps/themes that would work on the adjusted DPI? Thanks again!
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It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
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You're everywhere, nobnut! (Sorry for the off-topic)
Anyway, I hope soon everything will be smooth when changing dpi (maybe CM port or ICS). It's really useful for us with good sighting, I've been using my HD2 at 160 dpi instead of 240 and it's not only neater on the homescreen but very useful in some apps (and a less toyish aspect )
I suddenly want to switch to 240 DPI but the effort scares me.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369162&page=2
I don't like how it doesn't work for some apps as of now, though I never heard of Samsung ever accommodating DPI changes? That's why I didn't learn of this from somewhere else before the forums. :O
rerp said:
I suddenly want to switch to 240 DPI but the effort scares me.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369162&page=2
I don't like how it doesn't work for some apps as of now, though I never heard of Samsung ever accommodating DPI changes? That's why I didn't learn of this from somewhere else before the forums. :O
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Just try this app: https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDIxMiwiY29tLmlubm9kcm9pZC5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0.
It's easy as hell, you can try and then undo effortlessly. But I'm sticking to 320 until... until I try again 240
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When you say "it just makes things on the screen smaller," is it the icons or other stuff onscreen getting smaller or the screen getting bigger? I'm using GoLauncher EX and I was wondering about that setting on custom rows/columns that goes up to 10. I was wondering how would that fit.
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Everything is smaller. Everything.
Yes, Go Launcher looks good at a lower dpi once you have set the rows and columns. Shortcuts, texts, widgets etc will all display as smaller.
For example O at 320 might look like o at 240.
To edit, there are apps to use (if you are noob ). The best way is to open the build.prop file in the 'system' folder, find the line ro.sf.lcd_density=320 and change the 320 to your value... then reboot.
Just remember the default value is 320 if you want to return again.
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Just try this app: https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDIxMiwiY29tLmlubm9kcm9pZC5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0.
It's easy as hell, you can try and then undo effortlessly. But I'm sticking to 320 until... until I try again 240
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Everything is smaller. Everything.
Yes, Go Launcher looks good at a lower dpi once you have set the rows and columns. Shortcuts, texts, widgets etc will all display as smaller.
For example O at 320 might look like o at 240.
To edit, there are apps to use (if you are noob ). The best way is to open the build.prop file in the 'system' folder, find the line ro.sf.lcd_density=320 and change the 320 to your value... then reboot.
Just remember the default value is 320 if you want to return again.
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Thanks for the link but I don't think that changing the DPI itself is any difficult. It's cleaning up the possible mess after, with changing the incompatible apps. I've heard some of them won't work right on different DPIs. Is there a thread for that around here?
Also, I read one about S-Memo not working nicely, and I use that app a LOT, so I guess I'll be monitoring what they do in that thread too.
I do like how it looks like though. Makes me feel the phone is even bigger.
At 240 (default DPI for 800x480) "all" (can't tell for sure) apps will work. Everything also looks good since, again, it's the default Android DPI and some UI elements will look like crap if you set it to 260 or so. Try out the app and see if you like it. If not just reboot the phone and it'll be back to normal.
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Wait... Need some clarification about this... I've gotten some games in the market before and I uninstalled them because they didn't go full screen. They left like a fourth of the screen unoccupied and simply black. If I switched to 240, you think they would take the full screen?
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no. for example, live holdem pro looks the same crap on 320 and 240 too
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That's not nice. Are there any workarounds for such apps? I thought DPI would be a solution.
Hi All,
Just switch my GNote DPI to 240, and it looks pretty good, so I might keep it that way. I'm wondering if this will have any ill effect on the screen in the long run?
Thank you.
Nope, but it might have on your eyes due to having to squint all the time to see anything
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Hi, I have never mess with DPI before. What are the benefit of changing from 320 to 240? I should try it but will wait for explaination first.
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Hi All,
Just switch my GNote DPI to 240, and it looks pretty good, so I might keep it that way. I'm wondering if this will have any ill effect on the screen in the long run?
Thank you.
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Hi, I have never mess with DPI before. What are the benefit of changing from 320 to 240? I should try it but will wait for explaination first.
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Their isnt any big differences... 240 dpi is smaller. .so for some people it wont be sweet.. But for me its good.. And it also saves a lot of space on your phone screen and makes your phone look more tab like. .custom launchers are also smoother on 240 dpi... So y dont you just try it..?if you dont like it go back to default 320dpi...
Thank you. Will check it out.
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Their isnt any big differences... 240 dpi is smaller. .so for some people it wont be sweet.. But for me its good.. And it also saves a lot of space on your phone screen and makes your phone look more tab like. .custom launchers are also smoother on 240 dpi... So y dont you just try it..?if you dont like it go back to default 320dpi...
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Most apps in the market appear incompatible for me when I had it at 280. I gave up in the end, even though it was definitely smoother. I also had far more space on the notification bar, which is now very crowded and things keep getting pushed off
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Most apps in the market appear incompatible for me when I had it at 280. I gave up in the end, even though it was definitely smoother. I also had far more space on the notification bar, which is now very crowded and things keep getting pushed off
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240 has the best market compatibility
Yes, 160, 240 and 320 DPI are the ones that are genuinely supported by Android, so if you're using something else, a lot of apps won't work correctly.
240 dpi will also make most 3rd party launchers smoother on the scroll
and real estate, real estate, real estate.
320dpi is wasted on a screen the size of the note.
eyesight's taking a hit though haha
240 is nice, yes
The phone does seem more snappy once again.
I will try to train my aging eyes to this format!
240 is perfect for the note. looks insanely gorgeous the screen and visuals.
just the dialer doesnt seem to work correctly in portrait mode. any help on that?
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240 is perfect for the note. looks insanely gorgeous the screen and visuals.
just the dialer doesnt seem to work correctly in portrait mode. any help on that?
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Agreed. it look really fine!
I just tried the stock phone app, and I see the dial screen is not adjusting, whereas all the others are. I typically use the Go dialer as it allows themes (and you do not need Go Launcher to run it). That is fine with 240.
On my note, setting it to 240 dpi using lcd density changer causes the home screen to shrink to about 60% the total size of the screen.
If I hit applications to go to the menu again, same behaviour there, is this expected, if not how do I fix it?
May I ask what launcher and other apps do you guys use to get full 240dpi without the graphical glitches?
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On my note, setting it to 240 dpi using lcd density changer causes the home screen to shrink to about 60% the total size of the screen.
If I hit applications to go to the menu again, same behaviour there, is this expected, if not how do I fix it?
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Check out TouchWiz 4.5 or use ADW, LauncherPro or GO Launcher.
clairenix said:
May I ask what launcher and other apps do you guys use to get full 240dpi without the graphical glitches?
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LordManhattan said:
Check out TouchWiz 4.5 or use ADW, LauncherPro or GO Launcher.
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Do I have to do any modification on the TW 4.5? Cuz its still the issue that the launcher is not fullscreen
ssLauncher
clairenix said:
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I use ssLauncher. It gives me full control over everything on the screen, and allows resizing of almost any widget. It works well at any resolution.
It also has vertical scrolling for all screens, if you want that. It is not for everyone, but great for OCD users!
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Do I have to do any modification on the TW 4.5? Cuz its still the issue that the launcher is not fullscreen
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Hmm, i haven't tried it myself, but i've heard that it should work with 240 DPI. But if it doesn't work then i'm not sure what can be done.
Can't you use ADW, Go Launcher or another one, or don't you like them?
I was just missing the S Planner Widget ^^
but I will use Go Launcher. It has also a pretty calender widget
240 is too small for me
I just cannot read enough, especially system menus, at 240. The notification bar is also too small. I moved to this beast because I was sick of having to take my glasses off to read my Xperia Arc easily.
I'll settle for 320, although it does kind of irritate me having seen what the Note is truly capable of. Still, it is very easy for me to read, and that is important to me.
Hi:
been using cm9 for quite some time.. really like it..
just installed cm10.
the movable screens are smaller ; limiting the placement of my icons .'
also, the app drawer is smaller; making the field list show much less per screen
i cannot find how to change this
any help is greatly appreciated
thanx
amkaos said:
Hi:
been using cm9 for quite some time.. really like it..
just installed cm10.
the movable screens are smaller ; limiting the placement of my icons .'
also, the app drawer is smaller; making the field list show much less per screen
i cannot find how to change this
any help is greatly appreciated
thanx
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1. Get Texdroider_dpi
2. Settings->Launcher->HomeScreen->Grid-> (I set mine to 9X9).
3. Using Texdroider I set my font size to 132 dpi (If you do this leave your Texdroider icon in the middle of one of your screens. Someday when your screen is changed back to default it will be nice to be able to find the icon).
Also, there are several good launchers available free from the play store. I use apex and I'm I'm pleased with it.