Everytime I try to install a non-market application through Apps Installer, Astro, or OI File manager the screen just flashes rapidly and brings me back to the home screen.
I have Unknown Sources checked in Applications, so does anyone know why this is happening?
DAKIDD236 said:
Everytime I try to install a non-market application through Apps Installer, Astro, or OI File manager the screen just flashes rapidly and brings me back to the home screen.
I have Unknown Sources checked in Applications, so does anyone know why this is happening?
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grab a lolcat and we can see whats goin on under the scenes
go to settings>applications>tick unknown source. if its already ticked, then back up everything you want and make a new partition, not just wipe. that will solve your problem.
thanks for the quick response i'll have the logcat up in 5 mins, and if all else fails i'll reformat my ext3 and swap partition
swap doesn't need to be erased.
Check out the script I wrote in post 3 HERE
Most likely the problem is in dalvik-cache (7) so try that first. if not you can backup the apps (9), clear ext (8), then restore the apps (10).
Fingerlickin said:
swap doesn't need to be erased.
Check out the script I wrote in post 3 HERE
Most likely the problem is in dalvik-cache (7) so try that first. if not you can backup the apps (9), clear ext (8), then restore the apps (10).
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thanks i'm trying it out now
Is the number supposed to disappear like that? Or is it supposed to show you that it's clearing the dalvik and ext?
Hiya,
I've been tinkering to make my own ROM (not completed yet)
I've been struggeling with apk optimalisation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560271
I followed the guide and thought I test it out om my fav ROM CyanogenMOD 4.0.4
Ok so it reduced the size, resigned it without any problems.
I flash the rom and it doesn't go any further then the android loading screen. I should be seeing the setupwizard.
Are there certain apk's that you musn't optimize ??
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Second question.
I'd like to add apps and remove apps. how do I do this ??
- Can I just put them in the /system/app directory ?
- Or in the /data/app directory ?
As you noticed I'm abit of a newbie.
thanks for any help
For adding and removing cooked in apps
-Don't remove anything from /system/app even if you don't want it, because whatever app it is probably part of the framework...
-You can add third party apps to /system/apps like twidroid, but neither the market or aTrackDog will show update.
-You can add third party apps to /data/app but you will take a look in the update script to make sure they will be flashed.
thnQ for answering.
Is there also a way I can remove apps from a ROM completely?
I tried to remove amazon mp3 cause i never use it but after I sign it again it won't go beyond the loading screen. it turns black then
I'm having problems adding apps to a them or rom for some reason it installs fine but when it is at the loading screen it stops and turn black.
I added apps to /system/apps on a theme and on a ROM without any luck.
Some help is appriciated.
if you dont have the haykuro spl....you have to make sure everything will fit on the ~44mb system partition
I know there are some people like myself who actually like Sense and doing a 'full' root can be daunting, especailly if all you want to do is remove the crud that Vodafone or your Telco install on your branded Legend. But there is no reason this can't be used to remove apps that are in a custom ROM - as far as I am aware! If someone with a custom ROM could confirm this, that would be great!
Righto, as per usual here is the disclaimer - doing this is risky and you do so at your own peril! Don't come crying to me or Paul @ MoDaCo if it bricks your phone (it shouldn't but this is just a warning)
Enough of that you get the idea Now for the fun bit!
First if you are not you'll need VISIONary+ from MoDaCo, at the time of this writing r13 is the latest and is available on page 7.
Please read and check the original post as there may be an updated version. If you are rooted skip to the next step.
This is Paul's guide he done quickly on his G2, it's more of a pictorial guide (same rules apply to the Legend as G2 in this case).
Once installed use the Temproot option, this can take 15 seconds or so to complete, use a Terminal Emulator and type su then return/enter and your $ should change to a # - this means you have temproot.
Go to the market and install SuperUser, Titanium Backup, BusyBox.
Open Titanium Backup allowing it root access when prompted, go to Backup/Restore and scroll to find one of the preinstalled bloatware apps, I chose the Vodafone Music app and the Vodafone Web app.
Long hold on the app you want to remove and scroll down a bit and choose the option "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)"
This will reboot your phone TWICE, you will get the recovery screen up - LET IT RUN IT's COURSE! DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.
Once it boots back into your normal check that the app is no longer in your App drawer
Repeat for all the Apps that came preinstalled that you don't want, just be careful you don't remove anything that may still be needed!
A huge thanks to Paul at MoDaCo for this ingenious hack and the Titanium Backup, BusyBox and SuperUser developers for their hard work in writing their apps which also allow us to easy do this
Oh and you can use the Temproot on boot to have a sortof but not fully permaroot
Great work. I'll try on CM 6.1 RC1. One thing though...If I'm rooted I presume I need only the Titanium backup not VISIONary or other tools, right?
Yes you need the other apps, but you can remove them afterwards if you want. You'll need SuperUser to be able to grant Titanium Backup access, and Titanium Backup requires BusyBox to be installed - Titanium Backup gives you the option to install BusyBox if you press the 'Problems?' button under the Overview tab.
PS: you can use the free version of Titanium Backup for this exercise.
Yes, thank you. I knew about busybox and the option to install it from Titanium. SuperUser I have it already since I'm using CyanogenMod RC1 and it is included in the ROM (I think it is OK like this). So only Titanium (+busybox) needs to be installed.
I'll give it a try and let you know the results. I'll try to remove a rather large application (for ex Google Maps) and I'll install it afterward on the sdcard (since it is system appl, it cannot be moved directly to sdcard)
Later edit: IT WORKS! So I've tried to (and succeeded) remove 2 "system" applications: Google Maps and Calculator. Both were removed and the free space is now available (before 80 Mb free, after 91.2 Mb free).
There was only one issue with Maps, the icon still showed up in the application drawer and it was working (even after going through all above). After several checks I found the reason. The Maps were installed twice...the version included in the CM ROM (that was deleted by this procedure) AND the updated Maps (it once asked for upgrading the application from the market and I did that). After removing the "system installed" version of Google Maps, the "updates" remained. I went to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and I found Maps there. I've uninstalled the updates then rebooted the phone. After that the icon was gone completely.
To conclude, for CM ROMS (or for all phones that are already rooted and have already the SU application), the steps to be performed for removing a system appl are:
1. Install Titanium Backup
2. Press (as instructed) "Problems" button. This will install a working version of busybox.
3. Check if the application you want to remove, has also updates (from Market or some other places) installed. If YES, go to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and uninstall all the updates.
4. Start Titanium Backup and perform the steps indicated in the first post by TheLegendaryJay.
So it is working on custom ROM's as well and you don't need VISIONary or other application/tools.
All credits go to Paul, CM team and this whole community, the ones which made such things possible for our phones. TheLegendaryJay, thank you also for sharing this with us. Perhaps for rooted phones it is easier to remove applications with adb commands, but some are maybe not so technical to install the SDK or know how to use it (I can be counted as one of them), or they just might want to remove an application when they don't have a pc with SDK nearby.
yap, can confirm this. works great on cm 6.1 rc1. thanks for the hint
For you guys who are rooted - why not just flash the overlay filesystem patch, enable it, and then use any file explorer and go to /system/app/ and delete the apps you dont want? just a tip, it's much easier.. (and takes less time)
Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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As I understand it, the system folder is only linked so the phone believes it's on the SD-card. This should mean, no extra space is taken (except for the few kB that makes this possible). i could be wrong, but I use system overlay and I see no whatsoever decrease in performance. Not in benchmarks nor in usage.
If you are rooted - and dont want system overlay, I still think there is a better wway - ADB! just mount system, cd to system/app, ls it and rm whatever apps ypu dont want.. no need for multiple reboots - quick and effective
adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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When it comes to ADB, you must write the filename exactly as it is, if you want to remove Facebook.apk you must rm Facebook.apk, not facebook.apk or just rm Facebook*
What I do, I ls all files, copy the filenames I want to remove into into a txt file. ex. "rm facebook.apk Torch.apk voiceDialer.apk AndroidTerm.apk" and so on. When I flash a new rom, i just copy that file string and remove em all with that one command ofc. I ls it after and check if there is anything new I want to remove, but I get rid of most of it in a few seconds. (good tip!)
I understood that. Now I've checked again and I know what happened...the same thing I said above. The appl was removed also with adb command but the updates of that appl were not. I've removed the updates from Settings and after that the whole appl was gone (Facebook in this case). So both metods work, everyone can choose what he likes more
Anyway this was much more to test if it's working on custom ROMs as was asked by TheLegendaryJay and less as of providing an alternate way for rooted owners.
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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thanks for this, great info. Now I'm glad I use adb and not file overlay for removing files
Why's that? Overlay is really handy thing for testing... U can make the system think that the file is not there but in fact is. If something goes wrong (boot loop) because of that, U just disable overlay and U R back on with origial state. After U are satisfied with changes, U can merge those changes into read-only file system via recovery mode.
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BlaY0, you're totally right. Overlay is a great thing for testing (and by the way many thanks you for what you did). But if you're not a tester, just an enthusiast who look for new stuff for his phone, overlay could be much more than he needs.
I'm looking for example to have as much free space in memory as possible. REAL free space. If I'm using overlay, that will not be gained right? The read only files will still be there, only the overlay will show them "deleted". So...what I'm doing instead is that I'm flashing one of the existing ROMs (as per my preferences - CM 6.1 RC1 for ex.) that will not "brick" my phone, I customize it with widgets and applications as I like, than I start deleting what I don't need. For sure I can use overlay for that, but I can do it also without it. This topic presented an alternative for doing that, to the known adb commands. Also from what I've understood, the method in this topic is more aimed to the ones that are not (or don't want to be) rooted. And for those, the adb method doesn't work
You sure are totally right, but then again if you deleted some apk from /system/app that is needed for some other apk and U didn't know about that, you could end up with a so called boot loop. And if this is done by some noob, the simplest way for him to restore would be to wipe and reflash the original ROM. Overay can prevent such accidents. Actually even with overlay you can save space especially where is needed the most, that's on data partition - there's no need for dex in dalvik-cache any more etc. and surely you get more free ram as that app isn't loading any more. For the system partition it actually doesn't matter if it is full in fact why it shouldn't be full. When we get our S-OFF the first thing I will do is to rearange mtd partitions shrinking system and extending data coz now I have like nearly 50 MB free on system partition that I can not use wisely.
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Thanks, VF music and web app not banished from my Legend
Okay, I must be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. I have the same ROM as Rapier on my Desire, I have Titanium Backup and I did everything he said above. The pre-installed apps are uninstalled with TB (Car app, News and Weather, Facebook, Twitter, Google Voice, Maps, Quickoffice 2.0 which I have no idea what really is), I clear the Dalvik cache and many mega are freed. Then if I reboot, they're back. Like nothing happened.
Do you have any idea or should I give more details? Thanks for the help, guys.
Have you checked also if those applications you're removing do not have some updates installed? Because if they do, you'll get them back on the phone. First remove the updates from each application (from normal "Application" management), then remove the application residing in system with TB.
PS. QuickOffice is a suite program similar with MS Office, that allows you to read (and in the paid version also to write) office documents (.doc, .xls, .ppt...etc)
Thank you for your quick reply.
Yes, I have checked and uninstalled all updates. They are all with the basic version.
About Quickoffice, I know what it is It's just that the one that came with CM 6.1.0 RC1 cannot be accessed, it can only be used to open supported file formats (I just found out after posting here ). I'd prefer the normal Quickoffice with which I can access my dropbox and Google docs too, that's why I wanted to uninstall this in the first place.
Hey guys,
Downloaded the transparent geniewidget and overwrite/backup the original one in the /system/app folder - using super manager app (rooted with visionary). Did an install and everything works fine..(background is transparent).
However upon phone reboot, background is not transparent anymore..(Had to repeat the process above to get background transparency)..It seems that the original file is automatically reinstalled upon reboot (Can't even find my backup file anymore). What did i do wrong here?
Did you enable root access in super manager?
That's all I can think of.
It's one of the first options in the settings.
I would also suggest that you disable super manager's task killer and power management functions.
You might also try tapping on geniewidget apk once it's in system/app and installing it, even though it should work without installing it that way I think that might sometimes help.
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Did you enable root access in super manager?
That's all I can think of.
It's one of the first options in the settings.
I would also suggest that you disable super manager's task killer and power management functions.
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daveyian said:
You might also try tapping on geniewidget apk once it's in system/app and installing it, even though it should work without installing it that way I think that might sometimes help.
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root access is enabled..
how do i disable task killer and management functions? i'm on super manager lite btw..
tried installing it..but it says 'Application not installed'
bossnass15 said:
root access is enabled..
how do i disable task killer and management functions? i'm on super manager lite btw..
tried installing it..but it says 'Application not installed'
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I don't have super manager installed right now, that is one way to disable it's management functions btw (uninstall it)
I used super manager before there was a lite version, so maybe things are a little different now, there were a couple of settings I would turn off related to task killing and there was an app2sd reminder function.
I am really fumbling around in the dark myself so take anything I say with a grain of salt.
You should try putting the geniewidget I made (or the other one in the thread) in /data/app as well as system/app.
Try installing it from there too.
Although I just re-checked, and putting the apk in system/app alone did the job for me.
I've never had the probem exactly the way you describe it but I have run into the problem where I haven't found the correct file to rename and then the new file does nothing. I haven't seen the problem manifest on reboot, it just doesn't work.
Make sure you have found geniewidget or com.geniewidget (I forget the exact name), rename it to xxxapk.bak.
Is it still there after your reboot as xxxapk.bak?
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I've never had the probem exactly the way you describe it but I have run into the problem where I haven't found the correct file to rename and then the new file does nothing. I haven't seen the problem manifest on reboot, it just doesn't work.
Make sure you have found geniewidget or com.geniewidget (I forget the exact name), rename it to xxxapk.bak.
Is it still there after your reboot as xxxapk.bak?
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Nope its gone.