Hi all,
I have noticed that the stock browser runs really slow in comparison to Opera Mobile, especially when browsing the XDA forum. Page loading speed, panning and scrolling is a lot slower. Do you guys find that? Currently I have CM7 on an SDCard. Do you notice any performance difference running it on internal memory?
Thanks.
This is because Opera mobile uses the GPU for zooming and scrolling. It has nothing to do with it being on your SD card or CM7.
I tried out a Xoom today at Best Buy. I was mainly curious about its performance with web browsing through the stock browser. It seemed to perform pretty similar to the Nook Color on CM7, if a little faster, but some sites like the XDA forums here were still noticeably slow.
I find the slow performance of Android's UI to be very annoying because my 3 year old EeePC 900 on XP with its ancient Celeron M and Intel GMA 900 perform far better. Only Opera Mobile comes close but Opera Mobile is a rather annoying browser to use because of how limited the config options are and bookmark management is terrible. (yes I know about the ridiculous secret config page with its indecipherable options )
swaaye said:
I tried out a Xoom today at Best Buy. I was mainly curious about its performance with web browsing through the stock browser. It seemed to perform pretty similar to the Nook Color on CM7, if a little faster, but some sites like the XDA forums here were still noticeably slow.
I find the slow performance of Android's UI to be very annoying because my 3 year old EeePC 900 on XP with its ancient Celeron M and Intel GMA 900 perform far better. Only Opera Mobile comes close but Opera Mobile is a rather annoying browser to use because of how limited the config options are and bookmark management is terrible. (yes I know about the ridiculous secret config page with its indecipherable options )
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Blame the lack of GPU utilization on UI elements. Here's a good breakdown of opera:config settings.
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Anyone noticing the Browser on our beloved Nexus one is very choppy and laggy on some sites even though we have a 1GHz snapdragon! i know its not a humming bird but i would expect it to catch up...because when the nexus one first came out and i got it...it was BLAZING FAST! but now its all choppy and laggy.... anyone noticing that too??
there could be a couple of things involved with this, you could have more things running the background using cpu then previously, or you could just be going to some poorly coded websites. Also, if you havent been to a website in a while its cache may be different.
Blueman101 said:
there could be a couple of things involved with this, you could have more things running the background using cpu then previously, or you could just be going to some poorly coded websites. Also, if you havent been to a website in a while its cache may be different.
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hmm, ya you might be right if only Google Made GPU acceleration on the browser that would be awesome!
Mine is still blazing fast, but I don't have a lot running in the back ground & I clear it's cache often.
galaxys said:
Mine is still blazing fast, but I don't have a lot running in the back ground & I clear it's cache often.
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Hopefully Gingerbread will bring a new Web browser UI and other features.. i just decided im going to buy a Galaxy S but i will still use the N1 as a business/exchange phone but the galaxy S as my multimedia phone..
It does seem choppy compared to the stupid iPhone, but its an appropriate comparison because its the ultimate competition. And android blinks when scrolling. If you look at certain things you can see the colors blinking or something if u scroll slow u can see it more clearly regular scrolling it makes it look choppy. It seems like iPhone loads a page or a map and u are scrolling thhat one image but with android its like its trying to load each movement so browser seems jumpy and a lot of apps are the same way. Google maps is the worst. Its the coolest app on any mobile platform but its awful to scroll and zoom on android relative to the maps on iPhone. If gingerbread makes it on the same level then android wins hands down. Right now android has more features but iPhone is way easier to use its more smooth and polished. Like everything was developed and then actually used to decide what needs improvement.
I always tought i was getting awful browsing speeds in all the broswers stock, dolphin,skyfire because of poor speed with my 3g connection or my wifi , but i got an ipod touch 4th generation and was blown away but how quickly the pages loaded , i am no apple troll, or fanboy i just want a rational explanation , i know the browser in froyo was adevrtising as a the fastest browser around , but is it any true? can someone with leaked 2.2 or official 2.2 running in the droid comment on this?
The browser is not blazing fast because of lack of CPU speed on a droid for the most part, apple likely has some type of gpu acceleration going on.
Loading times of web pages are noticeably improved in froyo.
fivefour said:
The browser is not blazing fast because of lack of CPU speed on a droid for the most part, apple likely has some type of gpu acceleration going on.
Loading times of web pages are noticeably improved in froyo.
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i have my milestone overclocked to 900 mhz and the gpu is supossed to be one of the best in android , so im guessing it must be the lack of gpu acceleration im pretty sure they wont implement it in gingerbread, maybe in honeycomb?
Are you getting poor download speeds or slow rendering speeds? The former is not the Milestone's fault because it should very fast with 3G/Wi-Fi G.
I get similar rendering speeds compared to the iP4, but the download speeds seem to be a bit slower on Wi-Fi. I'll attribute this to Wi-Fi N on the iPhone versus G on the Milestone.
AFAIK, the iPhone 4 uses PowerVR SGX 535, and the Milestone has the 530 --both pretty good and similarly powered. Even the Milestone 2 uses the same 530 chip.
IMO, Safari on iOS4 is superior to Dolphin HD on 2.1/2.2., but I love Dolphin's flexibility and options.
@900 rendering speeds of the stock browser surpasses ios on froyo....on 2.1 I don't know. I use xscope most of the time.
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Are you getting poor download speeds or slow rendering speeds? The former is not the Milestone's fault because it should very fast with 3G/Wi-Fi G.
I get similar rendering speeds compared to the iP4, but the download speeds seem to be a bit slower on Wi-Fi. I'll attribute this to Wi-Fi N on the iPhone versus G on the Milestone.
AFAIK, the iPhone 4 uses PowerVR SGX 535, and the Milestone has the 530 --both pretty good and similarly powered. Even the Milestone 2 uses the same 530 chip.
IMO, Safari on iOS4 is superior to Dolphin HD on 2.1/2.2., but I love Dolphin's flexibility and options.
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poor download speeds, the pages take forever to load even on 3g so i dont think wifi g is to blame
Just wondering how is the web browsing when it's rooted? Is it pretty fast on wi-fi? Also has anyone ran skyfire on it for flash? I'm probably getting one tomorrow and was wondering because I do alot of web browsing. Thanks guys!
it seems to load pages slower than my evo 4g. i've done a few test and it's anywhere from 10-30 seconds slower. dunno what the slowdown would be since when i compaired my droid to the evo they were nearly equal in loading pages.
i used engadget as the test page and xscope and dolphin on both as the browsers.
I SetCPU to Performance (600 min 800 max) and I am getting faster web load times than EVO 4g.
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it seems to load pages slower than my evo 4g. i've done a few test and it's anywhere from 10-30 seconds slower. dunno what the slowdown would be since when i compaired my droid to the evo they were nearly equal in loading pages.
i used engadget as the test page and xscope and dolphin on both as the browsers.
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I SetCPU to Performance (600 min 800 max) and I am getting faster web load times than EVO 4g.
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still no difference with mine. 16 sec slower on latest test. 600/800 on demand.
800/800 the evo just beat it by 3 seconds.
still, not bad for a $250 tablet.
Does it make a difference if you use an alternate browser?
i've used both xscope and dolphin, both current versions. dolphin seems to load faster. i'm not 100% on that as i only counted seconds after loading finished on the faster unit.
So web browsing isn't a highlight on it then. I'm not sure how fast the EVO loads but it is a phone. Have you guys tried Opera in turbo mode? Might help ya out.
Also, has anyone tried Skyfire for flash or anything?
Rooted, running the Dolphin browser and page loads are good on wifi, roughly the same as my rooted phone on wifi.
I've tried all the major web browsers on my NC and Opera Mobile is by far the best experience. Dolphin HD is mediocre on load speed and downright sluggish and moving around the page and zooming. Opera Mobile is a full web browser (not to be confused with Opera Mini) and it has very smooth panning and zooming. It feels hardware accelerated even though it's not. You can also enable Opera Turbo in the settings which just made it that much faster.
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I've tried all the major web browsers on my NC and Opera Mobile is by far the best experience. Dolphin HD is mediocre on load speed and downright sluggish and moving around the page and zooming. Opera Mobile is a full web browser (not to be confused with Opera Mini) and it has very smooth panning and zooming. It feels hardware accelerated even though it's not. You can also enable Opera Turbo in the settings which just made it that much faster.
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i've never liked opera and honestly i don't know why, lol. guess it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot.
Hi guys
I want to buy a PDA but I dont decide what I buy
Can you help me?
which is important for me is browser speed.
I use phone for surfing the net. I'm very use the Net
I want to a fast browser surfing
which
camera?
screen?
speed (general)?
speed (browser)?
i m sorry i have a bad english.i am from Turkey.
What u should think about most, is the battery. You can always use custom roms, which boost the phone, or an alternative browser, like opera, which also speeds up surfing. So better think about battery, than browsing speed hope this helps
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aloneman5 said:
Hi guys
I want to buy a PDA but I dont decide what I buy
Can you help me?
which is important for me is browser speed.
I use phone for surfing the net. I'm very use the Net
I want to a fast browser surfing
which
camera?
screen?
speed (general)?
speed (browser)?
i m sorry i have a bad english.i am from Turkey.
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umm....
1. camera - similar, but lg has 2 mp front cam
2. screen - depends...both are good. if you stay out on sun more,consider the black a better deal
3. browser - windows wins in rendering speed.
3. general - windows phone 7's UI is designed to give you a feeling of being fast.
however, GPU of the black is better. and also it has LOADS of apps
Hey guys, I know its kind of a stupid thing to start a thread on so just spear with me
In 2009 I had an iPhone 3GS. Its was the latest iPhone in 2009 and was super fast. No lags on opening apps, closing apps, multitasking, scrolling screen and stuff like that. It was 99% LAGFREE. Games worked wonderful. I'm a big fan of hacking, so I jailbroke the iPhone and it still remained smooth and fast. For those who don't know, iPhone 3GS has a 779mhz CPU (apple clocked it down to 600mhz to prevent battery drains and other instabilities) and only 256mb ram. Now I have an international version of galaxy S that is clocked to 1.3 GHZ that has a 512 MB of RAM and believe me its slower than the iPhone. I just want to know what is wrong with our phones? Does apple use some magic superpowers on their devices? Opening apps lags, closing apps lags the home screen scrolling for some time, there are frequent crashing due to low RAM, there's lags in browser :S the music player lacks things as filtering of files, it has a worse reception than the iPhone 3gs. GPS is not goood. Even typing is sometimes laggy... the new jellybean made it a lil more like an iPhone due to its 60hz refresh rate and triple buffering but it still lags. Can you guys give me your opinions on this and stuff? Again I'm not trying to complain, I'm just wondering how could this be possible.
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Didn't you ask the same question in general section?
dark_knight35 said:
Didn't you ask the same question in general section?
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Yes I did. Is that bad?
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Helloworld294 said:
Yes I did. Is that bad?
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Asking one time is absolutely enough. We could stop posting in here, your other thread already got some responses.
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Asking one time is absolutely enough. We could stop posting in here, your other thread already got some responses.
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I didn't know, my bad.
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I own itouch 4 and i9000 with miui 2.8.10 and i can say that the SGS not slow as you describe
_RiVeRsIDe_ said:
I own itouch 4 and i9000 with miui 2.8.10 and i can say that the SGS not slow as you describe
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Itouch 4 maybe you have the 8gb one which is clocked to 600mhz and has 256mb ram. & believe me I had the iPhone 3GS in 2009 and I remember how everything was smooth even when I jailbroke it I OCed my iPhone to 800mhz and it became really fast. So idk... but now I know. Android uses CPU to render the UI, but as the new JELLYBEAN came out, its UI is rendered by the GPU which is how its supposed to be. That's why its alot smoother than previous android OS
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The answer is quite simple: Apple produces hardware and software made only for this hardware, Android is only software which has to work on any device. Furthermore there are more specs than RAM size or CPU frequency. If the hardware is specialized for something, you don't need that heavy hardware.
E.g. Playstations: They are optimized for graphic rendering and do that really well without a great amount of Hardware (I think the latest has 256 MB of graphic RAM). But try running anything else (Windows, lol) on them, it will lagg like hell
Same thing with the iPhone.
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BlueFlame4 said:
The answer is quite simple: Apple produces hardware and software made only for this hardware, Android is only software which has to work on any device. Furthermore there are more specs than RAM size or CPU frequency. If the hardware is specialized for something, you don't need that heavy hardware.
E.g. Playstations: They are optimized for graphic rendering and do that really well without a great amount of Hardware (I think the latest has 256 MB of graphic RAM). But try running anything else (Windows, lol) on them, it will lagg like hell
Same thing with the iPhone.
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If that's the case, then why don't the android community create like groups? You know, Motorola Android group, Samsung Android group, HTC Android group etc. to ensure that the software is running according to the hardware! That'd be easier and cheaper for the companies too, plus will have a great impact on the reliability of the OS
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Helloworld294 said:
Hey guys, I know its kind of a stupid thing to start a thread on so just spear with me
In 2009 I had an iPhone 3GS. Its was the latest iPhone in 2009 and was super fast. No lags on opening apps, closing apps, multitasking, scrolling screen and stuff like that. It was 99% LAGFREE. Games worked wonderful. I'm a big fan of hacking, so I jailbroke the iPhone and it still remained smooth and fast. For those who don't know, iPhone 3GS has a 779mhz CPU (apple clocked it down to 600mhz to prevent battery drains and other instabilities) and only 256mb ram. Now I have an international version of galaxy S that is clocked to 1.3 GHZ that has a 512 MB of RAM and believe me its slower than the iPhone. I just want to know what is wrong with our phones? Does apple use some magic superpowers on their devices? Opening apps lags, closing apps lags the home screen scrolling for some time, there are frequent crashing due to low RAM, there's lags in browser :S the music player lacks things as filtering of files, it has a worse reception than the iPhone 3gs. GPS is not goood. Even typing is sometimes laggy... the new jellybean made it a lil more like an iPhone due to its 60hz refresh rate and triple buffering but it still lags. Can you guys give me your opinions on this and stuff? Again I'm not trying to complain, I'm just wondering how could this be possible.
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OEM ROMs are not that great, you should for sure try some custom ROMs:
(i) ICS: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum...dwich-4-0-4-on-samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.125/
(ii) JB: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum/threads/installing-jelly-bean-4-1-on-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.131/
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OEM ROMs are not that great, you should for sure try some custom ROMs:
(i) ICS: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum...dwich-4-0-4-on-samsung-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.125/
(ii) JB: https://www.fixmystuff.in/FMS_Forum/threads/installing-jelly-bean-4-1-on-galaxy-s-gt-i9000.131/
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My friend let me assure you the last time I had a stock ROM was when I first got this phone and I only had it for two days. then I went to cm7--->darky's rom--->cm9--->slim ics--->TAJB----> now hellybean 12/10 so yeah..
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