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HTC Touch Diamond/Pro has multi-touch after all! credit[wmpoweruser.com]

ref: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=693
Touch Diamond owners will know that the navi-wheel on the front of the device is capacitive, and can measure movement without actually rotating. Like many HTC devices, it seems the Touch Diamond and Pro have hidden features, and pretty tasty ones indeed. Using an application called Nav Debug Tool by HTC, this video shows not only is the navi-wheel capacitive, but that the whole front of the device can track finger movements, and even two fingers independently.
So far there is no know feature on the Touch Diamond/ Pro that exploits this, but once our developers get their hands on the API it wont be too long. This also promises that even current generation devices with resistive screens will be able to take advantage of multi-touch features in WM7.

this has been known for ages and was posted several times before. Its already usable by shapps TouchXperience UI... -.-
just use forumsearch before posting

It's not multitouch. The left and right side are two different "modules". Try, using the utility, to multitouch just one side and see what happens.

kikakeule said:
this has been known for ages and was posted several times before. Its already usable by shapps TouchXperience UI... -.-
just use forumsearch before posting
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Do you mean to say there is API out there to use this feature? If so, where?

weblance said:
It's not multitouch. The left and right side are two different "modules". Try, using the utility, to multitouch just one side and see what happens.
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This is a good way for testing I think!

nfs hot persuit calibration

Hello everyone
I just installed need for speed hot persuit and tried to play it. It works quite good except my car is constantly steering right... if I hold my Xoom in portrait mode it's going straight. How to calibrate this?

I have the same problem...in my defy...I think its a game problem.
On my defy...from ICS...yes!!! in your face Motorola!!!

It's a problem with some of the earlier builds for anything using Tegra chips, such as Xooms and other tablets.
There's a newer .apk available that solves the problem.

manicmoose said:
It's a problem with some of the earlier builds for anything using Tegra chips, such as Xooms and other tablets.
There's a newer .apk available that solves the problem.
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Tnx! I'll have a look

Humpie said:
Hello everyone
I just installed need for speed hot persuit and tried to play it. It works quite good except my car is constantly steering right... if I hold my Xoom in portrait mode it's going straight. How to calibrate this?
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It will steering left when you stand up you xoom and steering right when you stand down. So I think the game have error with sensor (run in portrait mode).

manicmoose said:
It's a problem with some of the earlier builds for anything using Tegra chips, such as Xooms and other tablets.
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what's the number of that version? Now i have 1061

I would imagine that the newest version of this app is available on the market and should address this issue. Just check for updates and install them.
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Well here in the Netherlands the version in the market is something with a 5... what's yours? (Guess it's the same though)

.54 seems to be working well (TFP)

Slow screen rotation

Hi everyone
Lucky enough to get my nexus from currys last night before they'd made it properly onto the shop floor loving it so far but for one issue and that is REALLY slow rotation of screen in apps... chrome tapatalk YouTube everything takes forever as if it hasn't realised its been tipped over... a very heavy flick seems to help it along but that's really not good enough and I look a bit mental!
I tested with an accelerometer test app and all axes seem to register through all range of motion and even move v slowly so seems to me hardware fine and software bug? I read a Google post that there was an issue on nexus phones in December... anyone experienced it with the 7
Thanks
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I guess it makes me feel better to know that I'm not the one having this problem. I wish instead neither of us were though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29016781&postcount=434
I'm going to to try and flash a stock image tonight in hopes that it isn't the hardware. I also downloaded an app from the market that tests the sensors, and everything appeared fine there. If flashing back to stock doesn't fix it, I guess I'll be forced to do another exchange.....

Pinch to Zoom Delay on Nexus 4

When using the pinch to zoom feature in the browser, gmail, maps etc I noticed there is a delay in that your fingers have to travel a certain distance before the phone/OS start reacting to the command and begin zooming, Once it begins to zoom its very responsive, it's just the initial delay when you first begin to initialize the zoom.
After the Jelly Bean update on my last phone the Galaxy Nexus I've become so accustom to a instantly responsive experience that this is driving me nuts. The phone is great in every other way, that's my only gripe but I haven't noticed anyone else complain which really surprises me. I'm really interested in trying this on the Optimus G to see if it's hardware related or the new version of Jelly Bean.

i believe its been like that for awhile. I guess its just the way android works. it doesnt want you to accidentally pinch to zoom when you might be trying to do something else

Yes, that's true. But the zooming out is not affected, only the zooming in. Should be a software issue. It doesn't bother me.
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düdldihüü said:
Yes, that's true. But the zooming out is not affected, only the zooming in. Should be a software issue. It doesn't bother me.
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Yep you're correct zooming out is not affected which lead me to realize something. If you space your finger apart and zoom you wont get the delay. So it's definitely something where the phone is not recognizing multi-touch input until your fingers are spaced out.

Yep. This isn't an issue with just gmail, try and zoom within gallery. It's almost too stiff.
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seems not to be hardware related (puh...) check out this guy pinching and zooming on optimus g:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05rSXn96QrU&feature=related#t=7m44s

its definatly not hardware related...see above post... as for the argument that androids been lik this for some time is horse apples... and there is only the zooming feature that involves multitouch in the UI ..so saying it is to avoid mistaken inputs is also wrong... its definatly a software BUG which is to be fixed...

It is a software problem. Basically the screen is set to recognise touches as taps even after a certain amount of movement and not as swipes to allow for some movement of the finger and not be overly sensitive. The SGS2 had this 'problem' as well, but a guy (I think his name is vitalij, not 100% sure though) found where this value was stored and it could be tweaked perfectly afterwards. So I wouldn't worry a lot about this, probably it'll be solved similarly in the foreseeable future.

btw guys check out firefox it doesnt have the problem!
its much better
i made a video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU-N3mEOwU0

I tried a N4 today and it was present in the gallery but not maps.

ste1164 said:
I tried a N4 today and it was present in the gallery but not maps.
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Very true, just tested, so far iv found it in all browsers except Firefox and in the gallery

This is probably just google designing around a patent. Function patents need to describe extremely specific methods. This lets you design around them. Some vendors (ahem, Samsung) tend to use the "best" way instead of properly designing around, but the reason that Apple hasn't attacked Google directly is because Google designs around pretty well.

I hope all of you guys are reporting this to google here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=40445
Make a comment...the more comments, the higher on their priority it should become. Right now it only has a paltry 26 comments, so they won't think of it as a problem.

I'm suprised so few people are bothered by this issue. I for one am getting extremely annoyed everytime I try to zoom in the browser or gallery app. I settled with using just double tap for a while, since in my opinion pinching is not usable. I only just started using firefox. What a difference! Why the hell don't googles own app zoom properly like that??
I think it's a real shame googles own apps don't work properly on their own Nexus flagship phone for crying out load... this issue deserves more attention from google!
edit: I could not find a ticket about this specific issue (only about generic screen sensitivity) so I created one. If you think this issue is as annoying as I do, please star it/leave a comment so it will get noticed by google.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=54093&thanks=54093&ts=1365444331

Is there a fix for this problem in any custom roms?

I don't find it that bad in gallery but I must admit that pinch to zoom on Chrome is a real nightmare for my eyes. Just try Firefox or aosp browser. The difference is heaven and earth. The best way to see the difference is to magnitude the view as much as you can and then swipe. Scrolling on Chrome will be just physically painful. Firefox or aosp browser feels incomparably smoother.
I also came from Galaxy Nexus and I agree totally with OP about its swiping experience. After JB update pinching to zoom was being registered instantly and swiping felt almost perfect. Perhaps it has something to do with the lower touch sensitivity (due to new drivers that came with 4.2.2).
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In the MIUI Rom there's not the pinch to zoom issue. Hope someone can use it to solve the problem once and for all

If you want an instant pinch to zoom just put your fingers a little bit far from each other when you start pinching.
This is why zooming in works well for you guys

[Q] Air view on HTC One

I was reading that the Galaxy uses its Infrared technology for its Air View application, does anyone know if we would be able to utilize Air View on the HTC One or if there is an similar application?

derrick8 said:
I was reading that the Galaxy uses its Infrared technology for its Air View application, does anyone know if we would be able to utilize Air View on the HTC One or if there is an similar application?
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What does it do?

It has another sensor up front for that purpose I believe
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raptoro07 said:
What does it do?
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It uses sort of a hands free function: you can use your hand as a wave gesture to swipe pages horizontal/vertically, it has a feature that if you look away from a video it will automatically pause, etc.

Sounds like a useless gimmick. My Evo 3D had an overly sensitive screen, didn't always have to touch the screen, just be close, and it detected touch. It was pretty annoying.
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gk1984 said:
Sounds like a useless gimmick. My Evo 3D had an overly sensitive screen, didn't always have to touch the screen, just be close, and it detected touch. It was pretty annoying.
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Really, I didnt get the Evo 3D so never had the option of that software, man these commercials really make certain apps look brillant

derrick8 said:
Really, I didnt get the Evo 3D so never had the option of that software, man these commercials really make certain apps look brillant
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Lol it was more of a flaw... It was never intended to be like that but it would randomly register touches from your finger before you touched the screen.

derrick8 said:
It uses sort of a hands free function: you can use your hand as a wave gesture to swipe pages horizontal/vertically, it has a feature that if you look away from a video it will automatically pause, etc.
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If it did you wouldn't want it. The accuracy required to make these gestures reliable is way beyond the technology the S4 has in it, which is why reviewers say it's a gimmick. It either triggers when you don't want it, or doesn't when you do. You'd need something like a Kinect strapped to the top of your phone to really pull that off. The battery drain alone would be devastating.

Add in it likely won't function on any ported ROM or new versions of android. It will be very similar to the 3D where the drivers and other needed stuff won't be available to make it work. One reason I avoided Samsung.
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the S4 has a specific sensor just to the right of the earpiece speaker for the air gestures. its not as accurate as they make it seem just like the eye tracking isnt very good either. like previously stated its a gimmick. your average consumer is WOWED by stupid crap like that. i felt like an idiot swiping my hand in front of the phone and when using eye scrolling you have to physically tilt your head up and down. all the phone is doing is tracking the movement of your head and using your eyes as a focal point to base amount of movement off of. not to mention you cant be more than a foot or two from the sensor. if you wear glasses like me its really a pain. i guess the reflection in the lenses of the glasses makes it react funny. ive only played with the s4 for a couple days when ive been at my store but all in all im not impressed. im wondering if it will gradually learn your personal body movements and become more accurate. it seems like they took an S3 made the viewing area slightly bigger, new camera, and stupid gesture sensor. if it worked as well as Tony Starks stuff it might be worth playing with lol. even then though its not practical its just something that looks neat when you can get it to work. you can also use Svoice from the lock screen so say you name your phone then hold home key say name so svoice will launch then you say name again to start a command. the ability to launch from lock screen makes me wonder if it will have security issues like the S3 did. i also feel like me having to address the device twice in a row is dumb. i should say "S4 call ...." or "S4 launch ...." not say "s4" wait for svoice "S4 call...." or "S4" wait a few secs "S4 launch...." again i felt like an idiot standing there making swipes and repeatedly saying "S4..." thats just what i named the one at our store. i like google now bc i launch it then say "google" it beeps i say "search target.com for..." and it goes. i wish it worked better as a launcher for apps or taking appointments, sending emails, texts, ect.. i will say svoice has that going for it.
in the end im still holding out for black 64gb HTC One. im getting ready to make a sacrifice to cellphone gods if i dont hear something official soon.

xanmanz31 said:
i wish it worked better as a launcher for apps or taking appointments, sending emails, texts, ect.. i will say svoice has that going for it.
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Google Now can do all of those things.

Seems like more of a headache than it's worth trying to get it on the HTC One.