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So maybe I'm completely inept on this, but when I use Autonooter 3.0.0 for NC with 1.1.0 FW, does this mean that this is completely different than Honeycomb and Froyo.....I guess I'm not exactly understanding the different realms of it all....
Okay Autonooter will basically root the stock image allowing you to install market apps and other gApps. As such you are running a rooted version of the B&N Eclair image (2.1). Froyo (2.2) is the next iteration of the 2.x Android line which supports Flash. Honeycomb is the next major release of Android which is 3.0. Honeycomb is designed for larger screens of tablets and is supposed to take advantage of the beefier hardware found in them. Right now there are ROMs for Froyo and Honeycomb that can be used on the Nook Color. An upcoming CM7 release will provide a Gingerbread ROM as well.
So in short:
2.X:
2.1 - Eclair - What the stock B&N image is based on
2.2 - Froyo - The NC is supposed to get an official B&N Froyo release but it hasn't been released yet. Froyo supports Flash
2.3 - Gingerbread
2.4 - Ice Cream
3.X:
3.0 - Honeycomb. First iteration of Android for tablets.
mrapollinax said:
Okay Autonooter will basically root the stock image allowing you to install market apps and other gApps. As such you are running a rooted version of the B&N Eclair image (2.1). Froyo (2.2) is the next iteration of the 2.x Android line which supports Flash. Honeycomb is the next major release of Android which is 3.0. Honeycomb is designed for larger screens of tablets and is supposed to take advantage of the beefier hardware found in them. Right now there are ROMs for Froyo and Honeycomb that can be used on the Nook Color. An upcoming CM7 release will provide a Gingerbread ROM as well.
So in short:
2.X:
2.1 - Eclair - What the stock B&N image is based on
2.2 - Froyo - The NC is supposed to get an official B&N Froyo release but it hasn't been released yet. Froyo supports Flash
2.3 - Gingerbread
2.4 - Ice Cream
3.X:
3.0 - Honeycomb. First iteration of Android for tablets.
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I'm very new at all this myself. I was able to install Auto-Nooter 3.0 (for Nook 1.1) and it works great...just perfect.
I'm really wanting Honeycomb, though, or at least Gingerbread. Will either of those eventually be installable via the Auto-Nooter method? That's about the extent of my capabilities, I'm afraid. I don't know anything about code, commands, etc. Scared to even try! Or, is there another way to upgrade now that I've used Auto-Nooter 3.0 that is about the same skill-level that I haven't picked-up on in the forums?
This is a great community and I appreciate all the knowledge sharing that goes on in the forums. Thanks to all!
Um, if you installed Auto nooter you can then grab market apps. I recently got the Nook color, and that is part of the process I used to upgrade to honeycomb directly on the device. You can go on the market and download "clockworkmod" free version, and then use that to install these "emmc" installs which will completely overwrite the BN firmware with whatever firmware you want - 2.2, 3.0, etc.
It's not terribly difficult. You just download the emmc update you want and put it on a SD card, pop it in the Nook, and then select to flash that file - usually it will say its a "CWM" supported .zip install. And, there are much better directions than what I've outlined in most of the guides on the Dev forum.
bartonkt said:
Um, if you installed Auto nooter you can then grab market apps. I recently got the Nook color, and that is part of the process I used to upgrade to honeycomb directly on the device. You can go on the market and download "clockworkmod" free version, and then use that to install these "emmc" installs which will completely overwrite the BN firmware with whatever firmware you want - 2.2, 3.0, etc.
It's not terribly difficult. You just download the emmc update you want and put it on a SD card, pop it in the Nook, and then select to flash that file - usually it will say its a "CWM" supported .zip install. And, there are much better directions than what I've outlined in most of the guides on the Dev forum.
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I guess that makes sense. Any regrets with updating to HC?
The only thing I miss about froyo is flash for the 'play on' app... Otherwise the UI is amazing and perfect for buttonless tablets... I also don't like the not sleeping thing, drains battrry fast
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I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks
1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.
woot1524 said:
1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.
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sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.
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sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.
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I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.
OneStepAhead said:
I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks
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1. none that I could ever see... must've fixed something to warrant two updates although I believe that both were mostly for WiFi but I never had problems with 1.0 or 1.01...
...now I'm just wondering where the new B&N updates are as IIRC they had TWO slated for February and it's getting to be kind of late in the month to push out two updates... might just as well do one big one now... hope that they're skipping Android 2.2 and going straight to 2.3 or 3.0...
woot1524 said:
I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.
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Well the only reason I bought a Nook Color was to play with Honeycomb, dont have much interest in running Froyo, I can do that on my EVO already
One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.
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One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.
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Im sure thats important to many people, although I strictly bought this to play with Honeycomb. Now that I've got it running, I'm wondering what I'll actually use this device for? I can already do all this stuff on my EVO and the screen size isn't that much bigger. It sure had been fun messing with it though! Why B&N didnt enable some of this functionality out of the box I'll never understand!
I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
1) You have 2.1 (Eclair)
2) No, you need 2.2. There are several options, including simply running it from an SD card or flashing it to memory (eMMC)
3) CM7 is andrioid 2.3. Good stuff, but still a work in progress.
4) See #2
Thanks very much for responding.
Regarding your answers:
1. Is there a place on the Nook where I can find this?
2. Can you recommend a link to a method for getting this? Is it an upgrade, or would I be completely re-rooting this thing and having to reconfigure everything?
Any suggestions on some basic information for newbies?
Thanks again!
Sorry, I don't think I understand the question. Could you specify what you mean by "this"? Thanks.
Sorry, not sure which question you're referring to.
1. This = The version currently running on it.
2. This = Version 2.2
I can't be certian since I have moved to a CM7 variant, but I think it might be under settings either about or device information.
If you rooted with Autonooter you are on Android 2.1 Eclair. If you are running a froyo rom you are on Android 2.2. If on a CM7 based Rom you are on gingerbread android 2.3
loribuono said:
I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
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CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) is a custom rom, which is a custom operating system that replaces your current one. If you are not familiar with Android yet or rooting, I would stick with autnooter for now. Phiremod beta 2 is a stable custom rom with flash, but you need clockwork recovery first to install it.
Yeah, checked those places Wile E, but didn't see it there. Thanks, though.
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
loribuono said:
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
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Most custom rom installs (phiremod) would erase what you have now completely. You would have to redownload programs and use the nook color app from market for books. You could use titanium backup to backup and restore apps. There is a thread here and on androidtablets.net for phiremod beta 2.
But there may be a version of froyo that runs off sdcard but I am not sure how stable that is. If you are running froyo from an sdcard and mess with the nook internally, it may mess your nook up when you remove the card and try to go back to your old setup.
The good thing with the beta 2 version of phiremod is that you can restore a previous version of the nook from the clockwork recovery menu if you have cwr installed. That is if you make a backup first through cwr on your autonooter version of nook.
If you decide to go the route of a custom rom I would check out the how to on androidtablets.net about clockworkmod recovery first.
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Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Ok here is another long book by me, sorry for the long posts
Yes, Nookie Froyo, CM7, Phiremod give you an entirely new OS.
Custom roms are not any rooting. They are entirely different android operating systems so to speak. Most require one to wipe the devices internal Rom (Read Only Memory) in order to put a new one on. This is sort of risky as it erases everything, but is made less risky by using stable custom roms in combo with clockwork recovery. If the internal memory gets messed up and the procedures for instaling a custom rom are not followed or an error happens, your device will be unusable until fixed (fixed usually by booting CWR off sdcard and installing a stock image). Please do research and ask around XDA or androidtablets before installing a custom rom to know what the ups and downs of it are.
Also please keep in mind on the Nook certain Roms like CM7 require a different version of CWR and require a workaround to work as of now. It can be kind of tricky to install. Phiremod Beta2 can be installed through normal recovery. Check us out over at http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/ if you want. There are a lot of useful guides over there.
Yes autonooter just opens up functionality
Autonooter is not a custom Rom. It is just the method of rooting or unlocking your android device. Rooting an Android device makes you system administrator of the device. This is so you can do things beyond what B&N lets you do with the device like use the Android market.
This is what I did with my Nook. Autnootered it>installed Clockwork Recovery>Made a backup with Clockwork Recovery>Then Installed Phiremod beta2 through clockwork recovery as per the instructions for that rom
Thanks again for this. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this to a newbie. It's beginning to make much more sense now. For now, I'll stick with what I've got, keep reading and then go from there.
Ugh. Authentication error while reading a book and then a reset, and I'm back to the beginning. Except worse, because even navigation while reading a book doesn't work right. Anyone experience this?
Sorry I don't have that issues so I am not sure. Maybe its a password issue?
Perhaps. Don't know. Starting over from scratch. All I know is that it happened when I was merely reading a book, about ten minutes after trying to login to Google Talk with a different Google account than the one I used during the AutoNooter process.
Who knows...
My girlfriend has the G1 with stock 1.6 and I believe the makers of Words With Friends (Zynga) removed the app from 1.6 compatibility - it now requires 2.1 and above. She therefore can no longer download it from the Market.
This is a free app so there is no copyright or piracy issue here. I did find an APK via Google, but it has strange bugs (not the usual bugs with this app) such as she ends up in a game where it is me vs. me, but not her. Have tried all manner of uninstalls, reinstalls, and new WWF accounts. Must be because it is not designed for 1.6 any more.
Does anyone have access to the last well-behaved APK for Android 1.6? It used to work perfectly fine for her.
Hmm, why not just upgrade her G1 to the current version of ROM? Then she won't have that problem. Just curious.
Thanks. Unless I'm mistaken, 1.6 was the last official release for the G1 from Google, no?
I did upgrade another G1 to the Cyanogen version of Froyo, but it always ran slow, got worse, and the user ended up getting rid of it due to this, so I am cautious.
In short, is there a simple ROM that will bring her up to 2.1 on the G1, without slowing the phone down any more than it currently does?
Preferably a ROM I can just download and install via the update.zip method, without all the rooting and hacking. Thanks!
Yes, 1.6 is the official release by google. If you are expecting them to release the next one that will include 2.x, you might not even see it.
Even with 1.6 it's still slow (IMO). And you can't load any other apps on because most of the apps now a day required 2.x and above to work.
Since you asked, I recommend SuperAosp, and it's currently has 2.3 on it. I have been using it since March and loving it. Default load already is fast. With radio 2708/SPL 13d and the 15MB-boot from the DEV. You can also tweak it more for better performance, etc...
As far as not rooting, to my knowledge that's probably impossible. You will required to root in order to load any ROM.
Thanks! Is there any simple step-by-step guide to install it, using a Mac? I can mount the SD card on the Mac so simple file operations are fine.
I'm not sure where to get the appropriate Radio zip for example.
Thanks!
I actually took the plunge and installed the recommended SuperAosp from stock 1.6, and Words with Friends wont let me log in. I tried WWF 3.34 and 3.20 and both of them let you put email in and then it asks for new user name. You put it in and it goes back to the email. I've tried multiple emails and user names & it just goes right back. So if anyone is using a rom that works with WWF would love to know.
I ended up installing ezterry's Froyo and it works great! Make sure you wipe all data and caches first.
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I actually took the plunge and installed the recommended SuperAosp from stock 1.6, and Words with Friends wont let me log in. I tried WWF 3.34 and 3.20 and both of them let you put email in and then it asks for new user name. You put it in and it goes back to the email. I've tried multiple emails and user names & it just goes right back. So if anyone is using a rom that works with WWF would love to know.
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Oops sorry, I don't know how I missed this. It should work. I am using it. It's because your user name is taken. I ran into that problem before. I am currently using it with SuperAosp 6.4.2.
My problem is now in some of the game. the letter that was played will not show up from my opponent. It will not display correctly.
Looking to see how many users are still using 2.2/froyo.
CWM 5.0 (and soon 5.5) are available for HC roms, the latest froyo CWM is 3.0.
I would like to know if it's worth my time to backport it to froyo as I've never used froyo myself on the s7.
It isnt a huge amount of work, but it's at least double to maintain it as I only have 1 working s7 and it's a hassle to switch bootloaders to test it. As HC and froyo are different enough that you cant simply hack and glue CWM from HC to froyo.
The question is: Are there enough users to warrent me updating CWM 3.0 -> 5.5 for froyo users?
Background: There isnt much difference from CWM 3/4/5, esp as koush does not provide much in the ways of a changelog.
Biggest changes:
New nandroid format: uses gzips instead of IMGs, much easier to take apart a nandroid dump on a pc (dont recall if they're cross compatable)
Removed support for amend scripting: not relevent to users, only affects very old flashable zips (which there are none of for the s7)
Dual sdcard support: you can flash/nandroid to either sdcard or sdcard2 (the internal memory or external sd card respectively)
Impression of support: even if 5.0 -> 5.5 adds little, I'm still going to build it for the sake of having it
I still use Froyo on my DS7 but mine is still entirely rooted stock, don't even have CWM on it. Unless it facilitates moving to Honeycomb easier, I say your efforts could be better served on other code.
It would be great if you could provide that recovery even for those of us who have flashed Honeycomb to a T-Mobile DS. I for one would like the ability to return to Froyo, if I needed to.
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There's no supported (as in a way that I support) to return to 3xx roms, except to 336 for 4g units.
CWM wouldnt help in this case anyway
I'm stupid because I shouldn't update mine, now I can play just a few games ¬¬
Finally Rooted!
I finally got mine rooted and am running
kernel 2.6.32.9-OC-Dj_Stevega9fd541-dirty
build 15420-Dj_steve.
Streak 7 WiFi only
Seems like ginger root and other methods didn't work so well for me, so I used fastboot to flash CWM 3.0.19 recovery, booted into that then dropped in the new kernel.
Tried to go up to a later recovery image and flash one of the HC builds, but no love there. Probably something I still haven't learned yet.
Right now I've got to go fine themanii's guide to reset the service tag and mac address info. At one point I was rather solidly bricked.
Actually yes, I am still running a rooted Froyo ROM and I would like to be able to swap back and forth between Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb (I am not a daily/weekly ROM flasher, but I do swap ROMs from time to time). and at this point I have been relucktant to switch my Sister in law's DS7 over from Froyo because she has mixed feelings about the Honeycomb that I have installed on my wife's Asus TF101. It would be nice if I could flash her's and see how she feels about Honeycomb on her DS7, and know I could easily revert back to her existing Froyo image if she doesn't like it.
Thanks Manii
I still use froyo as I hate the way honeycomb icons are to big and the text is to small and most games only work on froyo