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[Q] Galaxy S hangs on bootscreen, no recovery mode after flashing

Hi,
I recently flashed a new rom (ultimate galaxy s v.7) from xda, and I flashed it via clockwork.
clockwork installed it and I rebooted, and it seemed to hang on the lockscreen for an abnormally long amount of time.
when i take the battery out and try to boot into recovery mode, it flashes to black then shows the galaxy s boot again.
previous to flashing this rom i have cleared the cache and all data on the phone. i have a nandroid backup so if i could get back to clockwork recovery this would be helpful.
also previous to flashing this rom i had a 3 UK rom which i installed by accident via kies, running 2.1...this rom seemed to be quite resistant to installing another rom from kies.
help would be MUCH appreciated...
thanks in advance

so recovery mode isnt an option then ?
What about Download mode ?

Hi,
Download mode worked before.
I have now managed by some miracle to get into recovery mode and now have gained options about a speedmod universal lagfix.
Is this associated with clockwork / ultimate 7.0 rom / a sign that the rom has installed in some form, and should i reboot, or should i now do a nandroid back to the rom i had before?

I believe speedmod uses CWM, so you can just do the rollback to your previous rom

nwsk said:
I believe speedmod uses CWM, so you can just do the rollback to your previous rom
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however would it be safe to reboot, as i'm currently in recovery mode and considering to do a nandroid OR alternatively reboot and see if the new rom starts up..

well u cant leave it in recovery mode forever lol, reboot it, if it doesnt come on, try recovery mode again or just flash another ROM thru ODIN

ok. how long do you think is a reasonable time to wait before concluding that the rom doesn't work and I should nandroid back to my old rom...?

Half an hour gives plenty of time .
jje

what would be the reason that it hangs on the galaxy s bootscreen?

could be anything.... installing process not completed properly. best to just re flash .

azzledazzle said:
could be anything.... installing process not completed properly. best to just re flash .
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do you mean recover via nandroid or reflash the same rom, then leave it?

choice is yours, ive never restored using nandroid so dunno what its like. but try it first, if no success re flash using odin. u will lose all your data

[Q] sgs cwm recovery problem

hello .
i am using galaxy s i9000 , with stock ddjv9 , n speedmod kernel .
i flashed speedmod kernel n i was able to reboot into cwm recovery using 3 buttons .
then i installed rommanager from market but it was not recoznising the cwm recovery version , so i flashed cwm recovery again frm rom manager .
but when i select reboot into recovery or back up rom frm rom manager it reboots to stock 3e recovery , n doesnt perform any backup .
i can still boot into cwm recovery 2.5.1.2 using 3 buttons .
plzz help . i want to use rom manager to perform backup .

Forget from manager and you your recovery to perform a backup. It's called a nandroid back up, it saves your whole system in its current configuration.
You restore this backup if something goes wrong and you can't boot up to your home, but you can still use recovery. If you want to backup apps and stuff then use other means such as titanium backup. If you want specific backups then let me know and I will give you a list of what i use.
As far as I know rom manager does the same thing however automates it so you don't have to go to recovery and go through the selections. Another thing you may need to be aware of is if rom manager doesn't recognise your recovery, any backup you attempt to make may be corrupt and un usable. If you want to fix recovery you may need to reflash your kernal. Not just CWM. This should retain all data and settings.
Hop that helps
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

But i cant do back up frm cwm recovery too . Its reboots into 3e recovery n nothing happens .
I want to use rommanager to flash custom roms after making a backup .
So my main aim is to make cwm recovery working thru rom manager .
My rommangaer can detect cwm recovery . After i selected flash recovery frm rommanager. But cant reboot into it or do other functions.
Plz help. With steps to perform.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

i have same problem i think .
1. i tried to install a new rom downloaded it and put it into phone & sd card.
2. i have tried to apply update from sdcared first i found it it seems to run fine but after that phone keep turning on seeing "galaxy s i9000 " and than showing it again in loop .
3. i can get into clockworkmod recover v 3.0.0.5 by pression those 3 buttons.
4 . when i plug it into the computer i cannot do anything with the data.
hope someone can help me.
and sorry if that is not connected to the thread
thanks~!.
p.s
my phone is rooted

dhillon7 said:
i can still boot into cwm recovery 2.5.1.2 using 3 buttons
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Thought you could get into this recovery??
Are you saying when you use the 3-button combo to get to this recovery it works, but then trying to make a backup does not work??
To fix recovery...
Talon26 said:
If you want to fix recovery you may need to reflash your kernal. Not just CWM. This should retain all data and settings.
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dhillon7 said:
I want to use rommanager to flash custom roms after making a backup.
So my main aim is to make cwm recovery working thru rom manager.
My rommangaer can detect cwm recovery . After i selected flash recovery frm rommanager. But cant reboot into it or do other functions.
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So what your saying is although rom manager detects it (recovery), it is useless as you cannot get into it to make a backup via rom manager
I suggest first go to manage apps and clear data for rom manager>>>open up rom manager>>>make a backup.
*CWM not detected?>>>flash via Rom manager>>>Backup...Remember because you are on stock your device is Galaxy S not Galaxy SMTD. As i believe MTD is for cyanogen based roms (I am 99% sure of this)
*If this still does not work, clear data again>>>do not open Rom manager but turn off phone>>>go to recovery (via 3-button combo)>>>Backup/restore>>>backup
If that does not work then Reflash your kernal as you did before, or any other kernal that you want that is compatible with stock roms. You will probably need Odin flashable kernals as your CWM is not working. You can try flash the kernal via rom manager, not sure what the result of this would be if CWM is not being installed properly. Instructions for installing the kernal will be from where ever you download the kernal.
So all the above should enable you to bypass Rom manager for the backup, or fix the backup/recovery which should fix the rom manager backup/compatibility whatever issues, Hopefully
HarryGN said:
1. i tried to install a new rom downloaded it and put it into phone & sd card.
2. i have tried to apply update from sdcared first i found it it seems to run fine but after that phone keep turning on seeing "galaxy s i9000 " and than showing it again in loop .
3. i can get into clockworkmod recover v 3.0.0.5 by pression those 3 buttons.
4 . when i plug it into the computer i cannot do anything with the data.
hope someone can help me.
and sorry if that is not connected to the thread
thanks~!.
p.s
my phone is rooted
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What do you mean the phone runs fine?? Did it ever boot up properly, as in get you to the home screen??
Have you tried reflashing the rom via recovery as you said it works...
If you use ADB you should be able to transfer back and forth, but there is a fairly long winded process to set it all up! However after this it should be easy..
If that doesn't work restore your backup which you should always make before flashing! (Im guessing your in this situation because you didn't do that? )
So if you don't have a back-up get an odin flashable rom either from stock firmware on sammobile.com or from the general forum where Ramad has made an extensive collection. Also you could flash DarkyROM 10.2 RE Odin ROM which is a custom rom and odin flashable..

I have heard frm sumwhere that we have to apply some update.zip two time to make cwm recovery working on sgs. Is it true ?
N which update .zip?
After reflashing kernel . Should ma rommanager detect recovery automatically or i have to do sum thing?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

n plz i dont want to bypass rom manager ,
i want to use rommanager , help me to make cwm recovery working thru rommanager .
i tried clearing data frm rommanager but it didnt helped .

dhillon7 said:
I have heard frm sumwhere that we have to apply some update.zip two time to make cwm recovery working on sgs. Is it true ?
N which update .zip?
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Have not heard of this... Sometimes you do have to flash roms twice that have kernals to avoid problems which may be what you are talking about. All custom kernals use CWM as it has many extra features. If you follow the instructions of the rom/kernal you should never have any problems.
dhillon7 said:
After reflashing kernel . Should ma rommanager detect recovery automatically or i have to do sum thing?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA
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It should work, possibly its a problem with the kernal I'm not sure. But I can say that every time i have installed and used Rom manager (I dont usually use it, so i uninstall it ) I have had to re-install CWM. What happens is i get a popup telling me to install the latest CWM, I then have to pick my device, I do so and then the pop up just disappears and all downloads are available to me. So in my case it doesn't even look like it installs anything as it doesn't reboot etc.
Soooo the answer is that it will probably tell you that you need to install the latest CWM, so just follow the prompts and if it installs the latest then great. Hopefully it will work after this. If it doesn't you may have to try a more recent kernal. If that still doesn't work, then use Odin to flash a rom.
Odin flashable custom rom that usually never fails for anyone This rom is usually recommended to people with problems. After this you should have CWM and be able to use Rom manager like it should be used
dhillon7 said:
n plz i dont want to bypass rom manager ,
i want to use rommanager , help me to make cwm recovery working thru rommanager .
i tried clearing data frm rommanager but it didnt helped .
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Why are you so attached to rom manager?? You think its safe? Probably agree but you may have to dump it for the first flash and then get back to it once you can get it working.. If changing kernals doesn't work then it may be your stock rom, and to change will either have to be odin or a zip via recovery...
Hopefully all goes well, Good Luck
REALISATION...
This is all because you cannot get a backup... If the above does not work then forget the backup and just flash the rom via rom manager. Because even if you have the backup you wont be able to use it as you don't have a CWM recovery right??
The apps i use for backup
App list backup
Sms backup and restore
titanium backup

[Q] A couple questions about O2X

So bascially last night i installed Rom manager for my phone. From Rom manager I installed CWM
I made a backup in recovery.
I restored my backup( might have no wiped dalvik or cache)
now i am stuck with the lg logo flashing on and off. however i can still boot into recovery.
I dont know if the problem was caused by flashing the wrong recovery or because i didnt wipe the cache
Can someone please tell me the version number of the right CWM for OPTIMUS 2X.
i have 2 backups which are on the memory of the phone not on my sd card.
I need to know how to get back to stock. Thank you.

OK
here is how to:
http://www.modaco.com/topic/335494-...aseband-release-103521-20110725-v20l-version/
When you have smartflashed this old stock ROM, you can use the LG Update tool to get to the latest ROM available to you.
Or you can root your phone again via NVFlash and go back into the Flashing circus.
Always carefully study, what the devs write about their ROMs and how to flash them, there are a lot of different ways to make the ROMs behave.

Where to start ?

Spent quite some time searching through the forum but I'd still like a few pointers on where to start particularly (in which order).
Like;
1) Root
2) CWM
3) ROM Manager
4) SuperUser
5) Odin
6) Data wipe
7) Binary count reset
8) Recovery Manager
9) Custom ROMS
(EVEN THOUGH I'VE NUMBERED THEM, IT'S NOT LIKE I KNOW THE ORDER, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING)
So here are my main questions:
1) In which order do I install them ?
2) Is there any relationship between them? (i.e. I thought ROM Manager let you install CWM and with CWM you can get to Recovery manager or something...)
3) Do I need the Recovery manager for recovery or for installation of custom ROMS?
4) What is the point of getting custom ROMS when I get root ?
Phone: GT-I8190
Android: 4.1.1
Baseband/Build: I8190XXALJL
Thanks in advance, and apologies for asking same question if there is a thread around here about it.
I'd prefer ppl to explain rather than referring to other threads as that got me a little confused before. (you may still refer if that thread is clear enough)

Ok. The order is
1- Root (superuser comes with it)
2- CWM
3-see the right rom for u
4- wipe data, cache, and dalvic in advanced, to flash rom
5-reset counter when u flash anthing in odin u will have a yello triangle to remove u have to reset counter ( does not effect the phone
Press like if i helped u
Sent from my HTC One X

mhoss48 said:
Ok. The order is
1- Root (superuser comes with it)
2- CWM
3-see the right rom for u
4- wipe data, cache, and dalvic in advanced, to flash rom
5-reset counter when u flash anthing in odin u will have a yello triangle to remove u have to reset counter ( does not effect the phone
Press like if i helped u
Sent from my HTC One X
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Could u explain 3 a bit more ?
Also is there any relationship between CWM, ROM manager, custom ROMS and Recovery Manager ?

Go to development forum, pick one of the pre rooted firmwares and flash via odin. Then install rommanager app from tbe play store and flash cwm recovery. Don't worry about binary count coz triangle away app works on our phone. If you want to wipe the phone reboot to recovery and wipe data. To boot into recovery use the quick boot app from play store.
Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk 2

...and most important.. Don't forget to make a full nandroid backup in recovery before you start to apply mods and other things
Might come in handy if the phone fails to boot!

Should note that after custom rom you can't get access software update through kies air. At least I can't :-\
Sent from my GT-I8190 using Tapatalk 2

Sv: Where to start ?
Who needs Kies when there is XDA?
Sent through time and space from my s3mini.

vonuzu said:
Go to development forum, pick one of the pre rooted firmwares and flash via odin. Then install rommanager app from tbe play store and flash cwm recovery. Don't worry about binary count coz triangle away app works on our phone. If you want to wipe the phone reboot to recovery and wipe data. To boot into recovery use the quick boot app from play store.
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So if I understand this the right way; CWM recovery has custom ROMS or am I getting the wrong idea ? - Why do I need it ?
(It's just that I've been a little confused because of the mass information available on XDA, so bear with me if I'm a bit annoying
tys0n said:
...and most important.. Don't forget to make a full nandroid backup in recovery before you start to apply mods and other things
Might come in handy if the phone fails to boot!
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Which would you prefer; Nandroid or Titanium ?
Do I need "busybox" for anything ?

Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw ?
Another question: There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?

Mystique03 said:
So if I understand this the right way; CWM recovery has custom ROMS or am I getting the wrong idea ? - Why do I need it ?
(It's just that I've been a little confused because of the mass information available on XDA, so bear with me if I'm a bit annoying
Which would you prefer; Nandroid or Titanium ?
Do I need "busybox" for anything ?
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With cwm or any other custom recovery you will be able to install zip files with mods, tweaks, roms, and so on. Simply put, non-samsung-signed-things + other functions as well.
You wont find many custom roms for s3mini yet wich it to be flashed through cwm. For now i think theres only BenzRom but I guess more will come
Nandroid or Titanium ? BOTH!
Nandroid for restore if something goes really bad, and remember to make sure you have a backup before you apply changes or mods. If you dont like it you can easily go back to previous state without flashing new firmware and have to install all your apps from scratch.
You will be just where you were at the time the nandroid was made.
Titanium backup to backup your apps and appdata. When installing new rom you can simply restore all your apps and appdata without downloading everything again. Do not restore systemdata. It often leads to alot of trouble.
Just make sure you save all your backups on your external sd, so it won't get wiped by mistake.
Busybox is needed if you want more than just root so go ahead and install.

tys0n said:
With cwm or any other custom recovery you will be able to install zip files with mods, tweaks, roms, and so on. Simply put, non-samsung-signed-things + other functions as well.
You wont find many custom roms for s3mini yet wich it to be flashed through cwm. For now i think theres only BenzRom but I guess more will come
Nandroid or Titanium ? BOTH!
Nandroid for restore if something goes really bad, and remember to make sure you have a backup before you apply changes or mods. If you dont like it you can easily go back to previous state without flashing new firmware and have to install all your apps from scratch.
You will be just where you were at the time the nandroid was made.
Titanium backup to backup your apps and appdata. When installing new rom you can simply restore all your apps and appdata without downloading everything again. Do not restore systemdata. It often leads to alot of trouble.
Just make sure you save all your backups on your external sd, so it won't get wiped by mistake.
Busybox is needed if you want more than just root so go ahead and install.
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Last couple of questions for now (apologies ) ;
1)Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw, cuz I read something about USB debugging mode to be turned on and ADB...
2)There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
3)So every time we flash another ROM it has a chance to brick or are we safe if we made a backup beforehand ?
4)What format should I format my card to ? - FAT32, NTFS, ext4 or ...?
5)Does data wipe erase all data on phone or phone and sd card ?
6)Given both CWM and Odin flash what would be more recommended ?

Mystique03 said:
Last couple of questions for now (apologies ) ;
1)Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw, cuz I read something about USB debugging mode to be turned on and ADB...
2)There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
3)So every time we flash another ROM it has a chance to brick or are we safe if we made a backup beforehand ?
4)What format should I format my card to ? - FAT32, NTFS, ext4 or ...?
5)Does data wipe erase all data on phone or phone and sd card ?
6)Given both CWM and Odin flash what would be more recommended ?
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No worries. Better be safe than sorry
1. No, you dont need keis unless you want to look for official updates.
For filetransfer I use Airdroid or box/dropdox/4shared. Official updates will be available to download anyway
Adb (Android Debug Bridge) is just a terminal. I won't go in to details here but you will find lots of threads on how to install and use it if you search xda.
2. They both do the same thing, but in touch-version you make your choices on touch screen while the other one is managed with phones physical buttons. I prefer the latest.
Roms for cwm are packed as .zip & are downloaded separately. As I said before there isn't much to chose from for our device yet.
3. Everything done after root is a risk. Even root can be dangerous if it's not done right.
Usually if something goes wrong it will just lead to a softbrick wich can be fixed in download mode or recovery.
Once rooted, make sure you do that cwm-backup to keep on your external sd. It's also a good idea to keep an odin flashable firmware on your computer, just to be sure.
4. Go for fat32. It can be changed later if you want to explore link2sd, sd-swap etc..
5. Factory reset will wipe all internal, but not your external sd.
6. cwm makes it possible to flash custom roms while odin can't. You need odin to flash official samsung firmware, but cwm to flash custom roms, mods, and so on. Can't really compare those two with each other, as they are used for different things.
:good:

Dated, but still very relevant.

tys0n said:
No worries. Better be safe than sorry
1. No, you dont need keis unless you want to look for official updates.
For filetransfer I use Airdroid or box/dropdox/4shared. Official updates will be available to download anyway
Adb (Android Debug Bridge) is just a terminal. I won't go in to details here but you will find lots of threads on how to install and use it if you search xda.
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What should I do for wired transfers only, I mean.
Do I need to search for the phone specific driver for pc at Official Samsung site or is there no driver ?
Any other things I need to turn on except USB debugging mode when wired ?
Edit: Nvm, just got on the right track again

CWM Recovery Won't Install

I'm following this tutorial on how to root my Orange UK GT-I9305 LTE Unlocked phone running 4.1.2.
Everything goes fine with Odin the phone reboots, then I unplug and turn off my phone, and boot into recovery mode only to find it hasn't installed and Android system recovery 3e is still there.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

synthecypher said:
I'm following this tutorial on how to root my Orange UK GT-I9305 LTE Unlocked phone running 4.1.2.
Everything goes fine with Odin the phone reboots, then I unplug and turn off my phone, and boot into recovery mode only to find it hasn't installed and Android system recovery 3e is still there.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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Not flashing as instructed is the usual .Like unzipping the file or wrong file faulty file download .
Try another recovery.
jje

JJEgan said:
Not flashing as instructed is the usual .Like unzipping the file or wrong file faulty file download .
Try another recovery.
jje
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I did follow them to the letter, does installing CWM Recovery actually root the phone or is "rooting" the phone a different process entirely that's required for installing CWM Recovery?.
:laugh:
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE
Model Number: GT-I9305
Build Number: JZO54K.I9305XXBMF1

synthecypher said:
I did follow them to the letter, does installing CWM Recovery actually root the phone or is "rooting" the phone a different process entirely that's required for installing CWM Recovery?.
:laugh:
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE
Model Number: GT-I9305
Build Number: JZO54K.I9305XXBMF1
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All depends upon the package but most CWM are root and recovery .
TRYhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002953

Ended up using Auto-Root which seemed to work no problem.

synthecypher said:
Ended up using Auto-Root which seemed to work no problem.
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I initially had a rooted stock ROM that i was using for ages then upgraded to a custome ROM but for personal reasons decided to go back to stock.
Loaded stock ROM with intention of rooting only to get rid of bloatware, but not one of the ODIN Flash recoveries work at all, not one, so like you ended up using CF Auto and that worked but now im still stuck with Stock Recovery. I dont understand why none of the recoveries flash when they did before.
Cheers

trouble with cwm/ twrp
Hi all. Yes I'm a noob and I wouldn't ask If hadn't tried a plethora of ways to install either cwm or twrp.
It took me a good hour to find this thread so hope I'm in the right place.
Ok I used odin to root and cwm didn't stick so still on stock rec. However I used framaroot to get super su working and titanium says I'm all rooted up. Other apps only for root also work.
I've since tried using goo manager and Rom manager to install cwm or twrp and both say unsupported.
I've searched these here threads and found a few with same problem namely when using odin cwm wont stick and android reinstalls stock recovery.
So I'm a bit stuck, I'm rooted but have no cwm or twrp.
Any help would he much appreciated.

Try Philz recovery .

I have never used a custom recovery on this phone but i think i read somewhere that when flashing by odin the thing to do is not let odin reboot the phone. untick the reboot option. then when odin is done flashing and says pass shut down the phone . dont let it boot up.once phone is off you can boot into recovery by vol up+hom+power Here is the tricky part. as soon as you see the white samsung start to load aka bootloader screen release the power button but continue to press volume up and home. you should see the circle with the hat symbol. and enter into clockworkmod once in clockwork mod you will need to wipe data cache and dalvick DO NOT WIPE SYSTEM then flash a custom rom zip that you have previously copied to either your extsdcard or sdcard0 at the same time you probably will want to flash gapps as well. the thing is if you boot up before entering recovery . the default native recovery from samsung will take its place back. maybe it is easier to just flash rom manager in the play store. flash clockworkmod and then boot into recovery from the app itself. I9300 is supported . dont know about I9305

thanks !
ashraf sharif said:
I have never used a custom recovery on this phone but i think i read somewhere that when flashing by odin the thing to do is not let odin reboot the phone. untick the reboot option. then when odin is done flashing and says pass shut down the phone . dont let it boot up.once phone is off you can boot into recovery by vol up+hom+power Here is the tricky part. as soon as you see the white samsung start to load aka bootloader screen release the power button but continue to press volume up and home. you should see the circle with the hat symbol. and enter into clockworkmod once in clockwork mod you will need to wipe data cache and dalvick DO NOT WIPE SYSTEM then flash a custom rom zip that you have previously copied to either your extsdcard or sdcard0 at the same time you probably will want to flash gapps as well. the thing is if you boot up before entering recovery . the default native recovery from samsung will take its place back. maybe it is easier to just flash rom manager in the play store. flash clockworkmod and then boot into recovery from the app itself. I9300 is supported . dont know about I9305
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Thats exactly how I understood the cwm not sticking problem. I have tried rom manager and said not compatable with my device as did goo manager for twrp. I think odin is the only way I get it to stick. So il flash in odin and il try to get into cwm as it boots and wipe those two files you mentioned.
But then can I just boot up as normal ? or will android try to reflash its stock rom ? Damn my phone for being so difficult
I only ask because I haven't decided what CR to use yet (or even looked for any). I was gonna get it all ready first then learn how to install a CR - 1 thing at a time i thought.
Anyway thanks for your help :good:
JJEgan I found Philz thread to be helpful but something I feel Im just not ready for. Im new to this and although the updated cwm looked cool there were just to much going on, maybe for a later day.
Thanks all the same :good:

wiping data plus cache plus dalvick cache is done to prepare your phone for the custom rom that you are going to flash. the wiping is to clean those partitions because if they are not erased you will have problems. especially if you go from one android version to another or touchwiz to aosp. it is done so you get a clean install with minimal issues. if it is not done you will most likely bootloop. effectively it is a factory reset. all of your apps and app data will be gone so you do not want to do that unless you have backed up your apps . however sometimes google automatically installs them after you sign in.
I am not sure why clockwork mod does not stick but if you copy the rom you want to your phone install clockworkmod with odin and then use clockwork mod to flas the rom and gapps package then factory reset you will not have the stock recovery anymore. but this has to be done without booting into android stock . PLEASE FOLLOW THE FLASHING INSTRUCTIONS TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. AND UNDERSTAND ANYTIME YOU FLASH OR MODIFY YOUR PHONE YOU VOID YOUR WARRANTY AND POSSIBLY CAN CAUSE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE. BEST OF LUCK!
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Also philz recovery is highly recommended
HERE IS SOME VERY GOOD READING http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743&highlight=philz+recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125

think I got it lol
Ok that's sounds good. However I've just read the threads you linked and now I've got to back up my imei and NV files first or il loose them when flashing. The procedure is all there and seems doable for a noob but i read some peeps are having trouble just doing that. I really wanted to root/install a CR regardless of the troubles cos I want full access and more importantly want to learn all the ins and outs so I can get the best use from my phone so glad I found this forum cause I'm sure I would have bricked my phone otherwise.
Might I ask if I've got this right tho?
1: backup imei/NV files
2: use odin to get cwm to stick using your method
3: boot into cwm to wipe data/dalvick cache and gapps
4:use cwm to flash a CR
5:factory reset
I think that's right?

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1 BACKUP EFS FOLDER(IT CONTAINS imeiAND SERIAL NUMBER AND OTHER NETWORK SETTINGS) MAKE AT LEAST 2 BACKUPS ONE FOR EXTERNAL SDCARD AND ONE TO KEEP ON YOUR PC
2 INSTALL CWM RECOVERY USING ANY WORKING METHOD. byTHE WAY PHILZ CAN BACKUP EFS.
3 IN CWM RECOVERY MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP OF YOU CURRENT ROM. I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT ,THIS IS IN CASE YOUR FLASH FAILS YOU CAN RESTORE CURRENT ROM FROM BACKUP. ALWAYS BACKUP BEFORE A FLASH
4 IN CWM RECOVERY WIPE DATA, CACHE , AND DALVIK CACHE
5 IN CWM RECOVERY FLASH ZIP FOR ROM AND FLASH ZIP FOR GAPPS "GOOGLE APPS"
6 BOOT ANDROID THIS MAY TAKE UP TO 10 MINUTES FOR THE INITIAL BOOT. BE PATIENT. IF IT BOOTS YOU ARE DONE
7 IF PHONE DOES NOT BOOT THEN IN RECOVERY WIPE DATA AND CACHE AND DALVIK AGAIN
8 STILL NOT BOOTING FLASH ROM ANG GAPPS AGAIN
NOT BOOTING? RESTORE NANDROID
FACTORY RESET=WIPE DATA AND CACHE
DONT EVER WIPE SYSTEM UNLESS YOU HAVE A RECENT NANDROID. NANDROID IS GOOD BUT THE OLDER IT IS THE MORE LIKELY IT IS TO GET CORRUPTED
ALSO IF YOU GET FORCE CLOSES FIXING PERMISSIONS USUALLY WORKS FOR THAT.
SOME ROMS ARE FLASHED IN DIFFERENT WAYS .ALWAYS FOLLOW THE DEVELOPERS INSTRUCTIONS

i had the same Problem before.
I Just disassembled the battery after a full-wipe for few minutes and it works... i don't know y, but that was the only way... ?!

brilliant thanks!
ashraf sharif said:
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1 BACKUP EFS FOLDER(IT CONTAINS imeiAND SERIAL NUMBER AND OTHER NETWORK SETTINGS) MAKE AT LEAST 2 BACKUPS ONE FOR EXTERNAL SDCARD AND ONE TO KEEP ON YOUR PC
2 INSTALL CWM RECOVERY USING ANY WORKING METHOD. byTHE WAY PHILZ CAN BACKUP EFS.
3 IN CWM RECOVERY MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP OF YOU CURRENT ROM. I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT ,THIS IS IN CASE YOUR FLASH FAILS YOU CAN RESTORE CURRENT ROM FROM BACKUP. ALWAYS BACKUP BEFORE A FLASH
Am I backing up to ext SD card?
4 IN CWM RECOVERY WIPE DATA, CACHE , AND DALVIK CACHE
5 IN CWM RECOVERY FLASH ZIP FOR ROM AND FLASH ZIP FOR GAPPS "GOOGLE APPS"
Are these seperate zips?
6 BOOT ANDROID THIS MAY TAKE UP TO 10 MINUTES FOR THE INITIAL BOOT. BE PATIENT. IF IT BOOTS YOU ARE DONE
7 IF PHONE DOES NOT BOOT THEN IN RECOVERY WIPE DATA AND CACHE AND DALVIK AGAIN
8 STILL NOT BOOTING FLASH ROM ANG GAPPS AGAIN
NOT BOOTING? RESTORE NANDROID
FACTORY RESET=WIPE DATA AND CACHE
DONT EVER WIPE SYSTEM UNLESS YOU HAVE A RECENT NANDROID. NANDROID IS GOOD BUT THE OLDER IT IS THE MORE LIKELY IT IS TO GET CORRUPTED
ALSO IF YOU GET FORCE CLOSES FIXING PERMISSIONS USUALLY WORKS FOR THAT.
SOME ROMS ARE FLASHED IN DIFFERENT WAYS .ALWAYS FOLLOW THE DEVELOPERS INSTRUCTIONS
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Thank-you for all that,I really appreciate it.
Can I ask the difference between the apps nandroid manager and titanium? I've backed up with both and wondered if i really needed to? The nandroid backup was nearly 3gb!
Also I was gona backup with qpst for imei and NV files but then read its only for US versions? Will the backup of efs folder include those?

honestly i really dont know what the differences are. l do not use custom recoveries or custom roms. i dont use titanium backup .Any rom I flash i get from sammobile.com. one reason i do not use custom roms is that none can support mhl. I use a monitor and bluetooth mouse and keyboard . without mhl I cant mirror my screen so i always stay with stock roms. i use Xposed framework for modifications.

ashraf sharif said:
I have never used a custom recovery on this phone but i think i read somewhere that when flashing by odin the thing to do is not let odin reboot the phone......
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thx you so much. this was the secound s3 that had this issue. deactivating auto reboot did the job!!!!