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I've suddenly become confused.
I have phone memory. I have system memory.
I have 643 mb available of system memory
I have 23.91 mb available phone memory.
Here's where I'm getting confused. As I'm trying to free up the phone memory and moving apps to SD or using TB to delete some bloat apps (Gameloft golf that came with the phone, etc) I get less and less available memory on the phone memory. I just moved everything but google tasks to my ext sd card and each time I move something, I get less available space.
Now as I have App2SD open, it shows I have 643 mb free.
Is anyone else having problems moving apps to the external SD? I went and traded in for another thrill and got a new SD card. When I go to move things to the external SD, I'm still sitting at 30+ gigs free and when I move apps they just take up the phones memory.
not sure whats going on here.
I just tried this by using Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>"app">Move to SDCard
It worked just fine for me.
I say do that for all your apps then try
Settings>SD card &phone storage>Format phone memory
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Different thrill and same issues. On the apps2sd app, it shows that it's moved to the SD card. However, when I move them to SD card, it eats up my phone memory.
I have formatted phone memory. I've done everything and googled everything I can think of. Both thrills even though saying it's on SD card keeps eating up phone memory.
On my ext sd card, it's still 29.65 gigs free. I'm down to 1.36 gigs on the phone memory. I've never had this issue. Shouldn't the memory space in external sd card be going down and not my phone memory?
Am I misunderstanding something? Any suggestions or schooling would be appreciated. I'm starting to really like this phone but if this keeps up I'll be running out of room quickly.
Considering how many people have used one of these by now, I was wondering if anybody could answer this.
One thing that drove me crazy about some Motorola and Samsung phones with 16+GB of internal storage, is that the storage was partitioned off and the usable space was mounted as if it was an sd card. This really wrecked havoc on apps that are supposed to save data to the SD card, because they would think the internal storage was the SD card and save to there. Not only was this annoying for some backup-based apps, but games which need to download anywhere from 500MB to 3GB of resources would install to the (usually 10GB or less after the rest is partitioned to the system) internal storage, thinking they were installing to the sd card. Basically, the sd card was only usable for photos, videos, and music... and file managers. The phone might as well not have an SD slot.
So far every HTC phone I have had hasen't been this way, the EVO 3D I currently has mounts the internal storage as actual internal storage, so apps correctly download these large amounts of data to the SD card. I didn't get a One because the lack of a SD slot was a dealbreaker for me, but now I am extremely interested in the M8 (Just a shame it isn't water proof like the S5 or Z2, oh well).
I am curious about how it treats it's internal storage however, since it starts out at 16GB(although it appears the Sprint version will be 32GB). Does it actually mount it as internal storage, so apps who want to write to the SD card would be writing to the real SD card itself, or does it work like the Samsung and Motorola phones where it partitions off part of it's internal storage as if it was external, making apps think that it's internal storage is the SD card?
I really hope it doesn't mount it's internal memory as if it was the SD card.
I have the Evo LTE, and it has the same storage space as the new One (16gb internal with a microSD slot). It treats the memory as internal SD and external SD. Most apps are saved to the internal SD. Only a mere few (XDA is the only one that comes to mind) can be saved/moved to the ext SD.
I hope that this answers your question.
aarsyl said:
I have the Evo LTE, and it has the same storage space as the new One (16gb internal with a microSD slot). It treats the memory as internal SD and external SD. Most apps are saved to the internal SD. Only a mere few (XDA is the only one that comes to mind) can be saved/moved to the ext SD.
I hope that this answers your question.
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The latest update to the EVO LTE changed the way storage was handled. They got rid of the internal SD so all of the 16 Gb was treated as phone storage. I would imagine that the M8 will be the same, especially given how Kit Kat treats memory cards.
ahecht said:
The latest update to the EVO LTE changed the way storage was handled. They got rid of the internal SD so all of the 16 Gb was treated as phone storage.
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Wouldn't something like that require re-partitioning of the flash ROM? I remember when I asked if it was possible to do this on a Galaxy S4 with a custom ROM I was told it would require re-partitioning the internal memory and be extremely risky and possible to brick.
Granted though, I would love it if the M8 handled memory this way. Has anyone here tried one and can confirm or deny this?
Cyber Akuma said:
Wouldn't something like that require re-partitioning of the flash ROM? I remember when I asked if it was possible to do this on a Galaxy S4 with a custom ROM I was told it would require re-partitioning the internal memory and be extremely risky and possible to brick.
Granted though, I would love it if the M8 handled memory this way. Has anyone here tried one and can confirm or deny this?
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Yes, the Android 4.3 update for the EVO 4G LTE was distributed as an RUU that repartitioned the internal memory.
The repartitioning to the LTE brings it in line with the first HTC One in terms of internal storage. It does mean that USB file transferring becomes MTP-only (no more mounting the partition directly). I find MTP rather slow (and at least under Linux, unreliable)... It's annoyed me to no end dealing with my wife's HTC One. At least the faster CPU than my Evo 4G LTE should make SFTP not glacially slow.
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The repartitioning to the LTE brings it in line with the first HTC One in terms of internal storage. It does mean that USB file transferring becomes MTP-only (no more mounting the partition directly). I find MTP rather slow (and at least under Linux, unreliable)... It's annoyed me to no end dealing with my wife's HTC One. At least the faster CPU than my Evo 4G LTE should make SFTP not glacially slow.
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The external SD can still be mounted in Mass Storage mode on the EVO LTE, so hopefully that'll also be the case on the M8.
Mounted as SDCARD
Cyber Akuma said:
Considering how many people have used one of these by now, I was wondering if anybody could answer this.
One thing that drove me crazy about some Motorola and Samsung phones with 16+GB of internal storage, is that the storage was partitioned off and the usable space was mounted as if it was an sd card. This really wrecked havoc on apps that are supposed to save data to the SD card, because they would think the internal storage was the SD card and save to there. Not only was this annoying for some backup-based apps, but games which need to download anywhere from 500MB to 3GB of resources would install to the (usually 10GB or less after the rest is partitioned to the system) internal storage, thinking they were installing to the sd card. Basically, the sd card was only usable for photos, videos, and music... and file managers. The phone might as well not have an SD slot.
So far every HTC phone I have had hasen't been this way, the EVO 3D I currently has mounts the internal storage as actual internal storage, so apps correctly download these large amounts of data to the SD card. I didn't get a One because the lack of a SD slot was a dealbreaker for me, but now I am extremely interested in the M8 (Just a shame it isn't water proof like the S5 or Z2, oh well).
I am curious about how it treats it's internal storage however, since it starts out at 16GB(although it appears the Sprint version will be 32GB). Does it actually mount it as internal storage, so apps who want to write to the SD card would be writing to the real SD card itself, or does it work like the Samsung and Motorola phones where it partitions off part of it's internal storage as if it was external, making apps think that it's internal storage is the SD card?
I really hope it doesn't mount it's internal memory as if it was the SD card.
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I also was using HTC EVO 3D. Now I am using HTC One M8. This phone treats Internal Storage as SDCARD and External Storage card as SDCARD2. I am also seeing this as problematic. I don't want to root at this point of time and just living with it with my M8. I rooted EVO3D and had complete Freedom even with CM 11 (KK 4.4.3). Lets wait and watch...
See the picture.
How come SD becomes xxxx-xxxx, and the number changes after changing SD card?
This can be a hassle to save files onto memory card.
mingkee said:
See the picture.
How come SD becomes xxxx-xxxx, and the number changes after changing SD card?
This can be a hassle to save files onto memory card.
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that's normal with MM when you choose the SD Card as "Portable Storage",
MM Handles SD Card differently in this version of Android, there is 2 options when you insert your sd card which are :
1- Adoptable Storage
-Android 6.0 introduces the ability to adopt external storage media to act like internal storage. (YOU CAN'T REMOVE FROM DEVICE, SD Card becomes part of your device when this is selected) You can Read more about it here "Adopt. Storage"
2- Portable Storage
- This Options doesn't act like internal storage but as normal storage you can take your sdcard out without a problem and connected to you PC using a SD Card adapter.
as you can see in my attachment, i have the sd card as Portable Storage,
mingkee said:
See the picture.
How come SD becomes xxxx-xxxx, and the number changes after changing SD card?
This can be a hassle to save files onto memory card.
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As mentioned by DrakenFX, this is the default behavior in Android 6.0+. If you don't want to deal with it, then the best option would be to use a larger capacity SD card to avoid having to switch it out. Personally, I can't use the Adoptable Storage option, since I change ROMs pretty often, and this would destroy my data when doing so. However, using a large capacity card, such as a 64GB, 128GB, or 200GB card, I can use only that one card to store my movies, music, and other large files.
cajunflavoredbob said:
As mentioned by DrakenFX, this is the default behavior in Android 6.0+. If you don't want to deal with it, then the best option would be to use a larger capacity SD card to avoid having to switch it out. Personally, I can't use the Adoptable Storage option, since I change ROMs pretty often, and this would destroy my data when doing so. However, using a large capacity card, such as a 64GB, 128GB, or 200GB card, I can use only that one card to store my movies, music, and other large files.
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i just thinking out of the box here, but if we create 2 Partitions of the same format in the sdcard will MM see this partitions as 2 different partitions as use 1 as portable storage and the other one as adoptable? or MM just deal with as just single one and convert/format the whole thing?....
i have to give it a try and see the results but right now to late for me and need to move 40gb from my card to do some testing
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i just thinking out of the box here, but if we create 2 Partitions of the same format in the sdcard will MM see this partitions as 2 different partitions as use 1 as portable storage and the other one as adoptable? or MM just deal with as just single one and convert/format the whole thing?....
i have to give it a try and see the results but right now to late for me and need to move 40gb from my card to do some testing
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When you select Adoptable Storage, it will format the whole physical card to use for storage. Two partitions will only work for making it see two portable storage devices.
cajunflavoredbob said:
When you select Adoptable Storage, it will format the whole physical card to use for storage. Two partitions will only work for making it see two portable storage devices.
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other words , Won't work then LoL :crying:
either way i guess i have a 8gb laying around will do the 4gb each partition and give it a shot
P.S. Sorry for been little off topic
Well, you could try setting your SDcards to the same volume # with VolumeID.
That's good, but not great idea... I have references to docs/sync jobs etc in apps that are path specific, which would all break simply by changing the sdcard.
I've had the htc m7/m8 before and the sd card is usually reference-able via /storage/ext_sd
Samsung uses external_sd
this is both in MM, so I doubt its an android issue. Is there some way to detect the removable / external sdcard and either:
(a) mount it as ext_sd (instead of XXXX-XXXX)
or
(b) dynamically create a symlink to whatever XXXX-XXXX happens to be so all the app references are not messed up?
not that its a life or death situation, but its just... um - "yuck"
Hi can someone tell me if my note 4 already comes w SD card? I'm out of storage all of a sudden and not sure what or if or what kind of card to buy. Will this mame the phone faster. So slow lately.
Also, if I do buy one not sure size, brand, etc.
Thanks guys
No, the note 4 does not come with an external SD card. It has 32gb of internal storage and if you filled that up then you will have to buy an external SD card. Just buy either a 16 or 32 or hell even a 64gb SD card....brand wise I guess San disk that's what mine is and I've never had issues with any of mine.
The Note 4 supports SD cards. You'd have to buy one that suites your needs.
On another note, have you tried clearing your cache? Checking out what is taking up all your memory? Might want to check these first.
Note for does support SD card. I have a 128gb SD card on my note 4 that works like a charm.
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Samsung is known to have problem with sandisk cards. For peace of mind stay with samsung brand of sd cards. Putting card in phone wont solve your problem instantly. You will need to do some work first. Move all your pictures, videos and music to sd card to offload internal storage. Use aplication manager and move some of yours apps to sd card. Setup your canera aplication to use sd card while taking pictures. Use Smart Manager to clean unnecessary files.
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Anyone else have an issue when trying to format an SD Card as Internal Storage? I just got a 128GB Samsung EVO Plus UHC 3 Class 10 SD Card for the purpose of extending the small 64 gb storage on the unit. When its formatted as internal it shows as a 256 GB Card with 132 GB Being used. When i go to app mgr and transfer the apps to SD Card i see the relative increase in space being used on my SD Card however my internal storage space stays just as full, which i believe shouldn't be the case. Anyone else have a similar issue, or know any workarounds to this issue? I do not think its device related as my girlfriends Razerphone 2 is acting the same way with the card i got for her. When we format it as removable storage it shows up correctly as a 128 GB but i dont want to be restricted to media only i dont plan on removing this card from the device.
Any assistance is much appreciated!
Thanks!
I have same issue but know not ofa work around or fix.
Even when you move apps to the SD card, the amount of data moved varies, and you'll still have necessary files on the internal storage. So I doubt you'll ever fully resolve that.
Regarding the idea in general, it's not a good idea to install apps on to the SD card in the first place. They are not designed to handle the amount of data writing that happens with normal app use and can corrupt the card relatively quickly. It's best to leave apps on the internal storage, and just put independent files (photos, videos, documents, etc) on the card.
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Even when you move apps to the SD card, the amount of data moved varies, and you'll still have necessary files on the internal storage. So I doubt you'll ever fully resolve that.
Regarding the idea in general, it's not a good idea to install apps on to the SD card in the first place. They are not designed to handle the amount of data writing that happens with normal app use and can corrupt the card relatively quickly. It's best to leave apps on the internal storage, and just put independent files (photos, videos, documents, etc) on the card.
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Yeah but that isnt quite the issue. I see the gigs of storage space on my SD get used but the space on my internal storage remains exactly the same as it was before i moved as well. I paid extra for the Class 3 card just for better read and write speeds to be usable as internal storage. The 64 gigs on this is too little and id rather not have to redownload apps every time i decide to change a game.
On my previous HTC 10 with Android 8 when i combined my SD as internal it basically combined as a single storage with my internal had just one big storage drive. I didnt have a class 3 card for that one, it definitely slowed things down but was hoping for better results with this faster SD, just now it seems like the feature is broken and not working as intended on this Device model altogether