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I just realized how difficult it is to open the battery cover after you've inserted the battery. Anyone having trouble with it or am I just a huge failure? I don't want to push and wrench away at it in fear of breaking the thing, what with it being plastic.
grainysand said:
I just realized how difficult it is to open the battery cover after you've inserted the battery. Anyone having trouble with it or am I just a huge failure? I don't want to push and wrench away at it in fear of breaking the thing, what with it being plastic.
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Try applying pressure nearer to the bottom of the phone and push away from you. You scaredy cat
Yeah, you have to apply pressure at the right place (at the center near the bottom) but it can be really difficult to open sometimes. At first I thought I'd get a spare battery to be able to switch when one is empty, but I can't see myself opening the phone every other day, I'm pretty sure I would break it eventually...
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Try applying pressure nearer to the bottom of the phone and push away from you. You scaredy cat
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Every time I apply pressure it makes this sound like it's about to break. D: And I keep getting the feeling I'm going to crack the screen. I'll flash damn near anything all day long, but breaking the thing physically scares the daylight out of me.
No success, btw. Either I'm not pressing in the right place or not pressing hard enough. Swear to god I opened the thing multiple times the first day I got it (after the battery was in, no less) since I got the SIM card in the wrong way. Now it's tight as... well, very tight. Plastic isn't supposed to expand, damn it.
grainysand said:
Every time I apply pressure it makes this sound like it's about to break. D: And I keep getting the feeling I'm going to crack the screen. I'll flash damn near anything all day long, but breaking the thing physically scares the daylight out of me.
No success, btw. Either I'm not pressing in the right place or not pressing hard enough. Swear to god I opened the thing multiple times the first day I got it (after the battery was in, no less) since I got the SIM card in the wrong way. Now it's tight as... well, very tight. Plastic isn't supposed to expand, damn it.
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the trick is to handle the phone at its sides, that way you wont risk breaking your screen. So apply preesure at the sides of the battery door and push with both thumbs.
Here's how to do it properly.
Hold the phone, using both hands, between index fingers and thumbs, so that the thumbs are just above the silver (engraveable) strip in the back. Bring the thumbs in toward the center line of the phone.
Angle your index fingers a bit, so that the pressure is applied not at the screen but the edges of the device. Curl the index fingers so that the upper half of the fingers are pointing toward your body and are positioned alongside the edges of the device.
Now, with your thumbs, push in and up. It helps if fingertips are nice and dry
I get the very same feeling of just how fragile it seems to be when trying to pop the cover off
This is not a problem I've ever had. It just slides off; what the heck are you people trying to do to your poor battery covers? ^_^
danguyf said:
This is not a problem I've ever had. It just slides off; what the heck are you people trying to do to your poor battery covers? ^_^
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Harry, it's only a problem for the original poster
Guess I'm just a clumsy ****. It kind of moved a little bit when I tried what you guys said, but otherwise unless I'm willing to go at it with my nails, I should probably ask someone else to do it.
On the other hand, no dust under my screen! The tightness of the battery cover might as well be why.
I find sticking your fingernail in the little slot where the speaker is and dragging back from there helps. I also get the feeling im going to crack the screen when im pressing hard on the phone, its scary stuff!
Try this, hold your phone in your left hand facing down with your index finger and thumb just on the sides of the phone just above the capacitive buttons. Then place the ball of your right palm on the back of the cover and push up while applying a little force, it should open pretty easily.
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Try this, hold your phone in your left hand facing down with your index finger and thumb just on the sides of the phone just above the capacitive buttons. Then place the ball of your right palm on the back of the cover and push up while applying a little force, it should open pretty easily.
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YES. This did the trick fantastically. It seems so simple now, I've no idea how I kept doing it wrong.
? You've read P 18 of the user guide ?? Nice wee diagrams... they work for me...
http://www.google.com/googlephone/nexusone-userguide.pdf
(In other words, RTFM ?? - no offence intended ...)
Cheers!
Lodger
I rarely, if ever, read manuals. But it's not as if I had trouble removing the battery cover the first day (especially since I had to do it several times as my SIM card was inserted the wrong way in).
Hi guys
just a quick question about the back of the captivates. When trying to lock in the metal battery cover, my metal cover does not sit flush with the back of the phone, the metal cover sticks out and I need apply pressure to press it down in order to slide up the plastic locking piece. Kinda curious if thats the case with all of the cappys or just mine? THANKS!
How much pressure? I have to kinda push it down but not hard at all, just kinda seat it in there.
when mine rests, its just a couple milimeters out... So yeah, i have to push it in to close it. But its not a considerable amount of pressure, its something a toddler could do . Once its closed though, its nice and snug
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How much pressure? I have to kinda push it down but not hard at all, just kinda seat it in there.
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supaphreek said:
when mine rests, its just a couple milimeters out... So yeah, i have to push it in to close it. But its not a considerable amount of pressure, its something a toddler could do . Once its closed though, its nice and snug
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Agreed. It's supposed to take a little pressure to open it. If you're just talking about the aesthetic of the phone, I, personally, like the way it looks recessed. I like the metal back enough I hate to use a case that covers it.
I think it's designed to stick up a little for 2 reasons when unlocked.
1. it makes removing the back over a little easier since it is raised and you can place something under it to lift it out (typically your finger)
2. to apply pressure to the latch so it is not lose and does not rattle or make similar noises that bug/worry ppl.
It might also be a side effect to one of the connectors that ground the back cover, as the one on the left side is a pin with a spring underneath it.
So rather than sending back my Nexus 7, I decided to give something a try. I removed the back casing, which is very easy to do. I used a small flat screwdriver where the "leather" meets the plastic and gently wedged it in. The case popped right open and was easily removed. I then tightened all of the small phillips screws around the outside of the board on the back of the screen.
This immediately cleared up the creakiness and play that i was experiencing on the left side of the screen. I tightened all screws and not just the ones on the left side. Do this at your own risk, obviously, but this immediately rectified my issue!
7/22 update:
So on Friday, I noticed a slight creak returned. I removed the black strip of foam that has been discussed in this thread. Since Friday, with heavy use, no creak, no play, no screen rise I'll update again later in the week to confirm it hasn't returned.
8/02 update:
Since removing the sponge, the play in the screen and the creaks have not returned. I see others havent had as much luck with it but, for me, I can say it did the trick.
Update 1: People are reporting that after a few hours the issue came back. It does appear to be something else causing this. If your issue persists, Call Your Store!
Update 2: Included another guide in this post to try, thank you Luxferro & Evo_Shift
Update 3: Most of us Play Store people are closing in on 15 day replacement time. It's quick & painless, and you still get to use your tablet while the other one is being shipped. Call them, RMA it, get it taken care of.
Update 4: Added Washer Fix Guide. Received my new replacement from the google store. Worse than my older one. Uploaded a video below. Google told me to google the fix for it and try it.
NOTE: Me & Jam are not responsible for what damage you may cause. Nobody has noticed any warranty seals being broken.
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Do I have screen separation?
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http://www.7nex.us/wp-content/gallery/defects/buldge5.jpg
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Guide One - Washer Fix by dilldoe
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Main Idea: http://imgur.com/QbGxi | Original Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29363298&postcount=638
UPDATE: PICTURES & GUIDE - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29422550&postcount=1
Using the thin plastic from a pill blister (allergy pills were right in front of me when I was doing this) I created a washer to space out the frame & screen.
Just cut a rectangle out and punch a hole at the end for the screw to go thru. I just used a sewing needle on a sewing machine, like a drill press, to make a starter hole and my smallest screwdriver to widen it. With the screwdriver still in the hole, I just ran my knife around it to trim off the excess plastic.
WHY A LONG RECTANGLE? so you can insert it and hold it in place while you work. don't want it accidentally falling into the device.
now just slide that UNDER the top frame and screw it back together. MAKE SURE YOU STOP ONCE IT'S SNUG. the screen should now be lower than the side bezel.
Do this to all the spots that are lifting. I just did mines on the lower left and upper right, since they both had slight lift.
After you're done screwing it all down, trim off the excess so you can put the back cover back on, not flush to the frame, just enough so you can hold it if you need to remove it.
Did this last night and this afternoon, still no returning lift.
edit: depending on how much lift you have, you might have to use 2 or more to fill the gap (or use something thicker like used gift cards)
Follow ups:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29384275&postcount=677
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29405347&postcount=710
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29402365&postcount=700
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Guide Two - Simple Tighten by cwc3/jam10238
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1) Grab something that isn't going to mar your nice silver plastic. People have been using guitar picks & even their fingernails
2) Stick that non-marring object between like seen here: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/CAKD1lCgchEPlBI2.medium (they have a white cover while we have a black one)
3) Start sliding that object between the two, you will notice them starting to pop up. Try not to pry if you can, I had to a little.
4) Should now look like this: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/1S3nvadn4UKYoEVx.medium
5) Tighten all the screws around the outside (Pretty much eye glasses size), on the black plastic and metal. Not too tight, or you might cause back-light bleed &/or strip the screw. In my case most were a little loose.
6) When putting the case back on, be sure your not just starting flat. Start at a angle, for example, with the right side portrait. Push/Pop it back on going around the tablet.
Pictures I took taking it apart:
http://i.imgur.com/4dG2d.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/ONTTp.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/A3zfP.jpg?1
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Guide Three - Advanced Tighten by Luxferro
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Original Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29022274#post29022274
1) Loosen all the screws around the outside w/ the panel on a flat hard surface (hard cover book)
2) Let the panel re-seat itself a bit
3) Just barely tighten all the screws.
4) Then repeat the tightening once they are all done to snug them up (not too much!). It should make your screen look perfect.
4a) After a bit of use you might need to snug them up once more - if the glass starts popping up again.
I tried this method of losening the screws after just tightening them failed me. And so far over 12 hours later my device still is good
Follow up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29028109&postcount=235
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Interesting Links:
Someone removing some of the foam to compensate - Do not recommend (Warranty May Be Void)
Full ifixit teardown: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Post a vid!
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So the problem most of us have is cause ASUS didn't tighten some screws.. hahh
Thanks for TOFTT!
When you snapped the case back on there was no evidence that you opened it?
cwc3 said:
You brave, brave man.
For anyone as brave as him, here is a tear down guide: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
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Ha! It really sounds a lot worse than it is. Removing my Galaxy Nexus battery cover is almost as difficult!
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jam10238 said:
So rather than sending back my Nexus 7, I decided to give something a try. I removed the back casing, which is very easy to do. I used a small flat screwdriver where the "leather" meets the plastic and gently wedged it in. The case popped right open and was easily removed. I then tightened all of the small phillips screws around the outside of the board on the back of the screen.
This immediately cleared up the creakiness and play that i was experiencing on the left side of the screen. I tightened all screws and not just the ones on the left side. Do this at your own risk, obviously, but this immediately rectified my issue!
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Brave indeed! Tempted to do this since I have the same problem but 1) don't wanna wait 1h on hold trying to get an RMA and 2) who knows when I'd be getting a new one.
In case I try this, and it ends up not fixing the issue and I decide to send it back later, do you think Google would be able to tell that device has been opened and potentially refuse the exchange?
Thanks
I might give this a try tonight after having an adult beverage to calm my nerves.
Thank you for doing it. I'll give it a go when I get home. Did you use a regular flat head or a plastic device friendly one?
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laverdure#1 said:
Brave indeed! Tempted to do this since I have the same problem but 1) don't wanna wait 1h on hold trying to get an RMA and 2) who knows when I'd be getting a new one.
In case I try this, and it ends up not fixing the issue and I decide to send it back later, do you think Google would be able to tell that device has been opened and potentially refuse the exchange?
Thanks
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I dont think so, there is absolutely ZERO warranty tape or anything that is standard on electronics these days. Its literally like a big battery cover. I can post a video shortly of the process.
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Pithism said:
Thank you for doing it. I'll give it a go when I get home. Did you use a regular flat head or a plastic device friendly one?
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Just a very small standard precision flat head. Fingernails may even work it was that simple.....
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Were the screws that you tightened noticeably loose?
adamhlj said:
Were the screws that you tightened noticeably loose?
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There were absolutely 3 or 4 that were a half turn loose.
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Videos or pictures would be clutch
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cwc3 said:
You brave, brave man.
For anyone as brave as him, here is a tear down guide: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
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You only need to do step 4 in this guide and thats it. If you look at the image for step 5 or 6 youll see one of the screws i tightened in the lower right corner of the picture.
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I have the minimal screen yellowing issue on the right side of the screen. Do you think this could possibly solve my problem?
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I'm going to bookmark this for now, but not worry about it as it stands.
I finally noticed just a thumbs size spot in the upper left that i could sometimes hear a LITTLE give, but that was in my quiet bedroom.
Otherwise it didn't feel like it was really having any give or separation.
So for now, I don't think I'll tempt fate, everything else seemed good in my build quality based on what some folks are reporting. Lightbleed I know from my old G2x, and got none, no discoloration or dead pixels that I could see. So given my luck I would tighten up this little almost not noticeable issue, and ... cause 2 more things to start acting up for no discernible reason at all.
Thanks though.
Just used my finger nail. Came off no problem. just don't have a screw driver that small at work.
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Pithism said:
Videos or pictures would be clutch
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Honestly, the teardown guide has better pictures than i could ever take. Once you pop the cover off, just gently give all exposed phillips screws around the outside a turn until tight. Dont force anything. Go the entire way around the outside then just pop the cover back on and power it back up.
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Yea they are good pictures. I will look at those again. Really easy to do people
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Those who got it popped off successfully, post some pics/video!
Ok, so I have had the screen lift problem. It's on the left side worst in the middle. I decided I would take it apart and do the shims between the screws thing. But when I got it open the lift disappeared. So it's a problem with the back pressing up just enough... I noticed a pretty thick piece of foam right on the center left so I removed it. Just replaced the case and tada the tape is holding the screen flat just fine now. Just thought I would pass this on with the other fixes.
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Ok, so I have had the screen lift problem. It's on the left side worst in the middle. I decided I would take it apart and do the shims between the screws thing. But when I got it open the lift disappeared. So it's a problem with the back pressing up just enough... I noticed a pretty thick piece of foam right on the center left so I removed it. Just replaced the case and tada the tape is holding the screen flat just fine now. Just thought I would pass this on with the other fixes.
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I noticed last time I opened it that this foam had some compression marks. Likely from pressing against the back. Mine was slightly misaligned, so really only part was compressed. I had the same thought, i.e. remove it. Maybe align it, but it's glued on tight.
So I just removed it. I'll let you know how it turns out in a day or 2.
I also use 3 washers for the top 3 on the left, which helped huge. Hopefully this will make it perfect.
Update Sept 1. This definitely helps. Noticed from pics on another thread that some new models have this foam removed, as shipped. Interesting. Also, on new models, some have screws missing (2 and 4, starting top left). I tried removing screw 2 but when I woke up I noticed creaking and movement at the bezel, when I press my left thumb inwards, which is something I always do. So I put the screw (and washer) back in this morning. Perfect now. But removing this foam was essential, so thanks again.
Makes sense. The screen is dead flat, so it has to be the back case that is separating. Thanks for the info.
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this isn't new and has already been covered already.
dilldoe said:
this isn't new and has already been covered already.
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Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered? It was the first I saw.... maybe they have more pointers... Links?
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mike5065 said:
Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered? It was the first I saw.... maybe they have more pointers... Links?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29028614&postcount=237
mike5065 said:
Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered?
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It was covered in the main screen lift thread, which is like 90 pages long and has every possible remedy tested, dissected and mostly debunked. The fact is there are several factors causing the lift and there need to be several solutions to really fix it 100%, and permanently. You can make it better in various ways, one of which is removing that foam, although I believe the foam is there to keep the back from flexing and compressing those metal "prongs", causing them to lose contact. So you might have other problems later without the foam. I probably wouldn't mess with it, personally.
I personally think a workable solution for most N7's with this problem would be to shave that foam down evenly by like 0.3mm, then clamp the screen to the trim and leave it in a hot car like that for a day or so to re-adhere, without the back cover on. Then cool the tablet down and replace the back cover. The hard part is evenly shaving down the foam; it is just a tiny bit too big. But it should be present.
Well I thought I could live with it but the lift is back.... I have also noted that my 8gb gets really poor wifi connection compared to my wife's 16gb. All the clips are still contacting the back plate but I can see no difference in signal with or without the back on. So, I just called google and they are shipping out a new unit for me tomorrow. Hopefully this one is better.
Took the back off to look at screen lift fix. Low & behold 3 screws missing on the LH side of the unit. Also some fingerprints on the copper plates, 2 loose (more than 1 full turn to tighten) screws on the RH side, metal tape/gauze over phone socket loose.
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...So you might have other problems later without the foam...
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Thanks for all this info. My foam was glued at about 25 degrees off-angle, and clearly compressed at the corner closest to the bezel, so a problem for mine' right from the factory. I didn't get it all off, but most for sure. Once removed, the bulge I had at that point between the bezel and rear case was gone. So was some screen lift' although the washers helped more for that. Not a big win, just another step forward.
I'm still curious why some pics on other thread show no foam, as shipped.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30974024
From my looking, it's in a seemingly non-functional gap, and presses down a wide cable (or something). I earlier traced movement of that cable as the source of 'creaking' I was having, i.e. when it moved against another piece of plastic beside the bezel. I put some lithium where it rubbed and the creaking stopped. Mind you I did that (and the 3 washers precisely tightened) before i removed most of the foam.
My Tf101 was a lot less maintenance than this one. But once done (crossing fingers lol), it's causing my iPad3 to collect dust. This thing just screams. Loving it.
Again, thanks for the info.
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I started noticing more and more dust gathering under the lens protection "window" but didn't think much of it since it didn't affect picture quality.
Then, after noticing a dark blotch on every shot I took, I saw the glass back pannel is loose in the upper half. The glue apparently came unglued (lol) and now I can easily put a matchstick between the glass pannel and the phone's body, the gap is that big. I tried pressing it back on, but the glue doesn't hold anymore.
Should I try to carefully pull the pannel off, clean out the dust (THERE IS A LOT OF IT UNDERNEATH) and put it back on with some double sided adhesive tape? Or should I take it to a phone service?
Thanks.
edit: How bad of an idea is taking it all off, cleaning the dust and super-glueing it back on myself?
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I started noticing more and more dust gathering under the lens protection "window" but didn't think much of it since it didn't affect picture quality.
Then, after noticing a dark blotch on every shot I took, I saw the glass back pannel is loose in the upper half. The glue apparently came unglued (lol) and now I can easily put a matchstick between the glass pannel and the phone's body, the gap is that big. I tried pressing it back on, but the glue doesn't hold anymore.
Should I try to carefully pull the pannel off, clean out the dust (THERE IS A LOT OF IT UNDERNEATH) and put it back on with some double sided adhesive tape? Or should I take it to a phone service?
Thanks.
edit: How bad of an idea is taking it all off, cleaning the dust and super-glueing it back on myself?
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Hello!
First, turn off the device and remove the back cover entirely. Clean the lens with a cotton swab (be careful not to scratch it or leave lint on it ). Then put it back on and heat it with a hairdryer (on highest heat setting). Do it in circular motion around the edges for about a minute. After that(while still hot) grab it with a sheet and start applying small pressure on the sides(slide the sheet on them). Then let it cool and it should be ok. I have done this personally.
Hope this helps you!
P.S. If there is a lot of dust on the adhesive, wipe it gently with a wet rag and continue. The heat from the hair dryer should restore the glue.
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Hello!
First, turn off the device and remove the back cover entirely. Clean the lens with a cotton swab (be careful not to scratch it or leave lint on it ). Then put it back on and heat it with a hairdryer (on highest heat setting). Do it in circular motion around the edges for about a minute. After that(while still hot) grab it with a sheet and start applying small pressure on the sides(slide the sheet on them). Then let it cool and it should be ok. I have done this personally.
Hope this helps you!
P.S. If there is a lot of dust on the adhesive, wipe it gently with a wet rag and continue. The heat from the hair dryer should restore the glue.
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It does, I'll try this tonight. Thanks.
zgomot said:
It does, I'll try this tonight. Thanks.
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If you have warranty then send it to service .
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If you have warranty then send it to service .
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No warranty, so I did it myself. It worked perfectly, just that there is still that dark splotch and I made sure I cleaned the lens thoroughly. See the attached picture.
Can anything be done about that?
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zgomot said:
No warranty, so I did it myself. It worked perfectly, just that there is still that dark splotch and I made sure I cleaned the lens thoroughly. See the attached picture.
Can anything be done about that?
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I'm glad it worked!
About the dark spot: I searched on the internet and it appears to be dust problem. Clean the lens with a windows cleaning solution. If that doesn't work, you can open the phone(heat it with hairdryer using the same method and pull it out with a suction cup) and vaccum the camera module. Then turn it on(without cover) for testing. I hope that is the case. If this doesn't work there may be dust inside the camera module and that is tricky to fix.
You can read this to better understand the problem: LINK
I opened it again, VERY THOROUGHLY cleaned the lens with LCD cleaner fluid, but it didn't seem to do anything.
Anything else I can try?
Replace the camera
zgomot said:
I opened it again, VERY THOROUGHLY cleaned the lens with LCD cleaner fluid, but it didn't seem to do anything.
Anything else I can try?
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I'm out of ideas. Repacing the camera is the only thing that comes in mind.
P.S. There might be a way to open the camera and clean it.