I started noticing more and more dust gathering under the lens protection "window" but didn't think much of it since it didn't affect picture quality.
Then, after noticing a dark blotch on every shot I took, I saw the glass back pannel is loose in the upper half. The glue apparently came unglued (lol) and now I can easily put a matchstick between the glass pannel and the phone's body, the gap is that big. I tried pressing it back on, but the glue doesn't hold anymore.
Should I try to carefully pull the pannel off, clean out the dust (THERE IS A LOT OF IT UNDERNEATH) and put it back on with some double sided adhesive tape? Or should I take it to a phone service?
Thanks.
edit: How bad of an idea is taking it all off, cleaning the dust and super-glueing it back on myself?
zgomot said:
I started noticing more and more dust gathering under the lens protection "window" but didn't think much of it since it didn't affect picture quality.
Then, after noticing a dark blotch on every shot I took, I saw the glass back pannel is loose in the upper half. The glue apparently came unglued (lol) and now I can easily put a matchstick between the glass pannel and the phone's body, the gap is that big. I tried pressing it back on, but the glue doesn't hold anymore.
Should I try to carefully pull the pannel off, clean out the dust (THERE IS A LOT OF IT UNDERNEATH) and put it back on with some double sided adhesive tape? Or should I take it to a phone service?
Thanks.
edit: How bad of an idea is taking it all off, cleaning the dust and super-glueing it back on myself?
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Hello!
First, turn off the device and remove the back cover entirely. Clean the lens with a cotton swab (be careful not to scratch it or leave lint on it ). Then put it back on and heat it with a hairdryer (on highest heat setting). Do it in circular motion around the edges for about a minute. After that(while still hot) grab it with a sheet and start applying small pressure on the sides(slide the sheet on them). Then let it cool and it should be ok. I have done this personally.
Hope this helps you!
P.S. If there is a lot of dust on the adhesive, wipe it gently with a wet rag and continue. The heat from the hair dryer should restore the glue.
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Hello!
First, turn off the device and remove the back cover entirely. Clean the lens with a cotton swab (be careful not to scratch it or leave lint on it ). Then put it back on and heat it with a hairdryer (on highest heat setting). Do it in circular motion around the edges for about a minute. After that(while still hot) grab it with a sheet and start applying small pressure on the sides(slide the sheet on them). Then let it cool and it should be ok. I have done this personally.
Hope this helps you!
P.S. If there is a lot of dust on the adhesive, wipe it gently with a wet rag and continue. The heat from the hair dryer should restore the glue.
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It does, I'll try this tonight. Thanks.
zgomot said:
It does, I'll try this tonight. Thanks.
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If you have warranty then send it to service .
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If you have warranty then send it to service .
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No warranty, so I did it myself. It worked perfectly, just that there is still that dark splotch and I made sure I cleaned the lens thoroughly. See the attached picture.
Can anything be done about that?
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No warranty, so I did it myself. It worked perfectly, just that there is still that dark splotch and I made sure I cleaned the lens thoroughly. See the attached picture.
Can anything be done about that?
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I'm glad it worked!
About the dark spot: I searched on the internet and it appears to be dust problem. Clean the lens with a windows cleaning solution. If that doesn't work, you can open the phone(heat it with hairdryer using the same method and pull it out with a suction cup) and vaccum the camera module. Then turn it on(without cover) for testing. I hope that is the case. If this doesn't work there may be dust inside the camera module and that is tricky to fix.
You can read this to better understand the problem: LINK
I opened it again, VERY THOROUGHLY cleaned the lens with LCD cleaner fluid, but it didn't seem to do anything.
Anything else I can try?
Replace the camera
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I opened it again, VERY THOROUGHLY cleaned the lens with LCD cleaner fluid, but it didn't seem to do anything.
Anything else I can try?
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I'm out of ideas. Repacing the camera is the only thing that comes in mind.
P.S. There might be a way to open the camera and clean it.
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Has anyone tried taking a can of compressed air to the back of the Nexus One in order to try to clear dust away from the screen? I just want it off the center of the LCD screen, don't need to get it out as long as it's not that visible.
What about partially disassembling the phone (like taking out everything that doesn't require you to disconnect flex cables) and then blowing it with the air?
I managed to drop my phone a couple times and that seemed to have caused dust to get under the screen, but I don't want to take it apart completely until I've exhausted all other options. Returning it is also not an option in my geographic location.
Fancy meeting you here
How would the air get into the screen from the back? Isn't it supposed to be sealed?
I wonder if you could move the dust under the screen with static electricity. Get one of those plastic rods like they use for demonstrations in chemistry class and charge it up. Then drag it across the screen over the dust. Just be careful not to discharge the rod onto the metal body of the phone...
Even if you did attempt this...
It would probably leave an unremovable sticky film. That's one of the reasons they tell you not to use it to blow off camera sensors, lenses, and CCDs (you're supposed to use a blower bulb). The compressed air isn't just pure clean air, it's got a bunch of bull**** in it. Not to mention it could quickfreeze the OLED parts and ruin the screen permanently. I would NOT try it. In fact, if you clean the back (battery, SD, SIM area) make sure you hold a piece of CLEAN 100% cotton (best if it's from a t-shirt) over the camera sensor or it will blow off the IR filter. Hope this helps.
I have done it twice. I posted pictures up on here on a different thread the first time around, which was probably 3 months ago. Send me a pm if you want the pictures. It wasn't horrible to do, but I don't know that I'd recommend it unless you're already experienced in these type of exercises. I didn't have any adverse side affects to the screen.
Here's the before and after.. I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
Oh yeah, I also found that a can of compressed air wasn't strong enough. I used an actual compressor set at 60-80ish psi I think.
@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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I used a combination of compressed air and a microfiber cloth. I found that it was impossible to find an absolutely clean spot on the cloth, so it basically just put dust back on the phone. I mostly used the cloth to wipe off smudges when I accidentally touched the back side of the lens/touchpanel, and relied on the compressed air to remove the dust. Also, I didn't detach the lens from the phone frame, so it's hard to get into the corners (where most of the dust is) with a cloth.
The second time around I had a lot less dust and tried cleaning it without fully removing the LCD. If you take the phone apart, you'll understand why you might want to leave the LCD attached and simply lean it back from the lens. However, in the end, I didn't find that to be effective, so I took the LCD out both times. I've got a small amount of dust back in there again, but may 5-10% of what I had the first time, and I really haven't noticed it at all, even out in the bright sun, which was the environment that I typically found it most offensive.
As long as you have patience, it's certainly a do-able task. The main reason I did it myself is because it was early on before anyone was reporting confirmed success of getting HTC to fix the issue free of charge with an unlocked bootloader. I didn't want to chance getting billed for it so it was a nice little project instead. Now that many people have proven that HTC will honor hardware defects regardless of unlocked bootloader, I'd go the replacement route if there's not some other reason keeping you from it.
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I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
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Please could you post? Thanks
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Please could you post? Thanks
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Disassembly 1
Disassembly 2
Full breakdown and then put back together
Hi dhendrix11 thanks for the pictures... I've saved everything on my pc.
Cheers
well, I ended up taking my phone apart too, using the iFixit guide and the Youtube video. Actually not as painful as I expected it to be, but for some reason I did not have a rubber microphone channel under the bottom mainboard, and I didn't have a screw at the top left of the top mainboard.
I also didn't take the screen out completely, just pulled it up a bit and used tweezers and a cloth to wipe everything off.
Now I have a like-new screen!
Hi hope someone can offer some advice, I have replaced the screen on my Z3 compact. Screen works fine but it is lifting and not sticking. I have tried different types of tape, I have applied tape to the edge of the screen itself and the frame it's still lifting. Please can someone offer some advice
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Any one got any advice, this must be an issue somewhere.
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Any one got any advice, this must be an issue somewhere.
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Consider buying a B-7000 glue, it is used for displays mostly, I was advised by a friend to use it, since my screen has unglued as well, and he has already repaired couple of Z3/Z3c devices with it, and there were no reported lifted screens since than. For the back panel, you can use double sided tape, but adding B-7000 glue on one side (to avoid cracking sounds, depending on the used tape probably). You can do a bit of searching on Youtube for repair videos, I recall watching some with the mentioned B-7000 glue, easy to find.
I haven't done it myself, but I will very soon, dust has filled my front cam, and proximity sensor.
Good luck.
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Consider buying a B-7000 glue, it is used for displays mostly, I was advised by a friend to use it, since my screen has unglued as well, and he has already repaired couple of Z3/Z3c devices with it, and there were no reported lifted screens since than. For the back panel, you can use double sided tape, but adding B-7000 glue on one side (to avoid cracking sounds, depending on the used tape probably). You can do a bit of searching on Youtube for repair videos, I recall watching some with the mentioned B-7000 glue, easy to find.
I haven't done it myself, but I will very soon, dust has filled my front cam, and proximity sensor.
Good luck.
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other solution than b7000 ? from what i read on forums, after a while also this glue become "unglued"...clean, unclean, is still da same.
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other solution than b7000 ? from what i read on forums, after a while also this glue become "unglued"...clean, unclean, is still da same.
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I think B7000 will get the job done. I have used it for my device and it has been a month already, screen and back plate haven't moved a bit, its like new. One thing to remember though, you have to make sure the whole frame is COMPLETELY covered with glue, otherwise it will not be enough to hold the screen. I made a mess at first try, because I missed some spots and the screen lifted on sides, next time though, I've checked 3 times for any empty spots and applied glue to those spots, now everything is perfect. Of course, you should cover frame only, avoid applying that much so that glue is dripping inside the phone itself.
Good luck
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I think B7000 will get the job done. I have used it for my device and it has been a month already, screen and back plate haven't moved a bit, its like new. One thing to remember though, you have to make sure the whole frame is COMPLETELY covered with glue, otherwise it will not be enough to hold the screen. I made a mess at first try, because I missed some spots and the screen lifted on sides, next time though, I've checked 3 times for any empty spots and applied glue to those spots, now everything is perfect. Of course, you should cover frame only, avoid applying that much so that glue is dripping inside the phone itself.
Good luck
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Gooood,ill give it a shot. But i was thinking if must remove back cover and the screen for glue only a corner...the back cover doesnt have any problem, only the display in left corner is unglued. And if i must to remove thats, i must buy and that adezive black or simple use only b7000 ? Thanks
I have some of the B-7000. Stuck the screen down over a week ago appears to be fine. The only issue I have is that I think the glue has squeezed onto the front camera, the camera is now blurred. I don't use the front one so it's not a big problem.
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Gooood,ill give it a shot. But i was thinking if must remove back cover and the screen for glue only a corner...the back cover doesnt have any problem, only the display in left corner is unglued. And if i must to remove thats, i must buy and that adezive black or simple use only b7000 ? Thanks
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I have used the glue, it's fine, you don't need stickers
You can try applying the glue only in that corner as well, but I'm not sure how well will that fix the issue.
I had to remove the screen anyway to clean the notification led cutout and front camera, so I didn't care for the back plate sticker.
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I have used the glue, it's fine, you don't need stickers
You can try applying the glue only in that corner as well, but I'm not sure how well will that fix the issue.
I had to remove the screen anyway to clean the notification led cutout and front camera, so I didn't care for the back plate sticker.
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go0o0d thanks man
I have had this phone for about 1.5 years now and it held up,it was running very well but it always had an overheating problem,you have probably seen me all over the forums asking how can I lower the temperature of the phone lol.
Well it has become less apparent with the latest build of Lineage,only when I am using Snapchat but that doesn't matter.
But now what started happening is my back glass is unsticking,the bottom part to be exact,I believe this is because the device heated up so much it weakened the adhesive.
So I am asking now with what material I can re-stick the back glass properly since I don't want it to hang like that for no reason.
Use fevibond
You can use fevibond(Synthetic Rubber Base Glue). I used it to stick front screen peeling off from top left corner.
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You can use fevibond(Synthetic Rubber Base Glue). I used it to stick front screen peeling off from top left corner.
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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No, that would make it tough/impossible to separate it for repairs.
Please refer to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/sony-xperia-z3-compacts-display-peeling-t3156347
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Nope I wouldn't do that, as super glue is not flexible. I have glued both screen and back glass with B7000 adhesive (most repair shops use it specifically for displays) and it hasn't moved since. That was done some 4 months ago. If you put enough glue on the frame (be careful not to leave empty spots, cover the complete frame with glue), of course avoid dripping of the sides into the frame, I am sure that it won't peel off again, especially the back glass.
I am waiting for new screen to arrive, so I'll have to re-do everything again, of course with B7000.
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Never use superglue, it will not last long and will ruin your phone, as superglue's main ingredient disintegrates plastic...
I've also used red 3m tape, does not hold!
Bought B7000 glue, will use it once my new battery arrives, so using useless 3m red tape in the mean time...
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B7000 Glue works!!!
I heavily flash, test etc. and no matter how hot the phone gets, it's sealed and does not reopen.
I cleaned the surfaces, I applied the glue, and did not care about making a mess (the glue is easily removable for future repairs) and did not care about it oozing out either, just made sure that it covered that border.
I did not use any heat, and it was still cold here.
I then used clothes pegs, 3 on each edge (I was worried about too much pressure, but it was not an issue)
I did not turn my phone on at all, and waited for 48 hours, before removing the pegs then turning it on.
Please note: the z3c is bendable, especially in jeans pockets, I use an anodized bumper to keep it straight. And using tempered glass on both sides is recommended.
***I did however buy a new battery, as my previous battery seemed fat, and I also removed the nfc sticker, but not sure if that is necessary.
I can't get all of the answers from their customer service but I am sure many would be interested to know answers to these questions. You can add your own.
1. Is the glue dangeours if it gets into the mic, speaker, inside buttons?
2. Can you install the glass over a decal sticker on bezels?
3. Does the surface have to be 100% level or is a degree or two off not such a problem?
4. Do they sell just a replacement glass/glue in case of breakage? No point spending extra money for the lamp if you already have one plus what are you going to do with extra lamps.
Thanks a bunch!
I can only answer #4. They do sell a kit with just the glass and glue, but it is only $5 less lol
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I can only answer #4. They do sell a kit with just the glass and glue, but it is only $5 less lol
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What? That is kind of a rip off...
1. it can be dangerous if it gets in. use masking tape for the top speaker and one time around the phone so everything will be sealed.
2. maybe, but i wouldn't do it.
3. it needs to be level so the glue won't flow in the wrong direction.
4. yes but it's still 35 bucks or so
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1. it can be dangerous if it gets in. use masking tape for the top speaker and one time around the phone so everything will be sealed.
2. maybe, but i wouldn't do it.
3. it needs to be level so the glue won't flow in the wrong direction.
4. yes but it's still 35 bucks or so
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How do you then get masking tape off the top speaker? I am pretty sure it is not in demo videos?
If you follow the directions I don't see how you would get it in the hole. It should dump out just above center and you tip it towards the bottom in the "jig". Once you drop the protector it should only flow under the screen as long as you don't press then cure with light.
So... is it possible, sure if you do 1 or more things wrong during installation but it doesn't seem likely.
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What? That is kind of a rip off...
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Yup
https://www.amazon.com/Whitestone-Dome-REPLACEMENT-PROTECTOR-Protector/dp/B075D74S7K/
I'm sure some company will come up with a cheaper alternative eventually. It is just a glass protector and loca glue.
According to Whitestone, the glue is not harmful to any components or yourself. You can wipe off excess glue with alcohol.
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If you follow the directions I don't see how you would get it in the hole. It should dump out just above center and you tip it towards the bottom in the "jig". Once you drop the protector it should only flow under the screen as long as you don't press then cure with light.
So... is it possible, sure if you do 1 or more things wrong during installation but it doesn't seem likely.
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I am pretty sure it easily and normally gets into the front top speaker.
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I can't get all of the answers from their customer service but I am sure many would be interested to know answers to these questions. You can add your own.
1. Is the glue dangeours if it gets into the mic, speaker, inside buttons?
2. Can you install the glass over a decal sticker on bezels?
3. Does the surface have to be 100% level or is a degree or two off not such a problem?
4. Do they sell just a replacement glass/glue in case of breakage? No point spending extra money for the lamp if you already have one plus what are you going to do with extra lamps.
Thanks a bunch!
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1. I had a little bit of seepage around my power button, and found some in my S-Pen slot - no damage done.
2. I think this is likely not to work terribly well. Anything that prevents the progress of the glue is likely to screw up the installation, and I suspect the edges of the decal would probably interfere.
3. I suspect that mine wasn't 100% flat, and it didn't cause problems (I had a bit of seepage both sides, not just the side that I suspect was marginally lower).
4. Yes, as has been mentioned, there is a new glass/glue option at a small saving over buying the whole kit again.
I stand corrected. I did my install last night and taped the speaker just in case and probably should have run tape around the perimeter of the phone as well. It came out nice but for one tiny bubble right at the curve that isn't visible when in use and mostly only in bright light.
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Tips:
1. I definitely recommend taping not only the speaker but the perimeter below the glass so it can't go in buttons or ports. I had to wipe down the vol up/down side a bit.
2. Absolutely make sure the work surface is level. I have a tiny level I set across the screen face in both directions while it was inserted in to the jig to confirm this.
3. Write down the steps on a short, simple checklist you can refer to and put it on the table next to the phone so you don't miss any. I almost forgot to tilt the phone after removing the adhesive "bridge" and setting the tempered glass down in the slot and across the drop pin. A speck got on there right next to the glue and I freaked and had to pick up the protector and dab the dust bit up. That lead to me hurrying/panicking and nearly forgetting a step.
4. Either before you start or after you drop the glass on the glue and it spreads make sure you and/or the phone are in a position where you can inspect all sides/angles before applying the UV light. I may not have had the bubble if I had been in such a position to more thoroughly inspect. It was on the curve of the glass on the far side away from me and I didn't see it and I was afraid to move the jig :/
5. DO NOT remove any part of the positioning jig until you have hit it with the first 15 seconds of UV light. That cover is floating on a lot of liquid and will skate all over the place if you aren't careful.
6. You can gently tap/(very gently)push down a bit to push glue in to bubbles but be aware doing so will most likely lead to it "squirting" out the edge(s) a bit.
7. Do this when you are not in a hurry and well rested (not exhausted like I was). Make sure no one will bust in the room you are working and bug you (or swirl up the air). Do it in a clean environment. Wait for the AC to be OFF and no fans on so air isn't causing dust bits to swirl. I wore Nit-rile gloves to minimize any bits falling off my skin/hair (don't touch the screen with the gloves once cleaned or you may end up with a residue on it). If you are at all unsure about your install or what your results will be like DO NOT hit the glue with the UV light. Up until then it can be cleaned off and you have another bottle for try 2. Afterwards the say its impossible to clean and re-use thought I may put that to the test much later on.
If you want perfect results then EVERYTHING must go perfectly or you will not have perfect results. Even if its perfect bubbles may still get missed :/
**This screen protector install is NOT for the faint of heart or someone who is not willing to take the time and even dry run it a couple of times to be sure they have it down or the results will be less than optimal. This is coming from someone who can take apart these Samsung phones and replace the display itself!
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I stand corrected. I did my install last night and taped the speaker just in case and probably should have run tape around the perimeter of the phone as well. It came out nice but for one tiny bubble right at the curve that isn't visible when in use and mostly only in bright light.
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Tips:
1. I definitely recommend taping not only the speaker but the perimeter below the glass so it can't go in buttons or ports. I had to wipe down the vol up/down side a bit.
2. Absolutely make sure the work surface is level. I have a tiny level I set across the screen face in both directions while it was inserted in to the jig to confirm this.
3. Write down the steps on a short, simple checklist you can refer to and put it on the table next to the phone so you don't miss any. I almost forgot to tilt the phone after removing the adhesive "bridge" and setting the tempered glass down in the slot and across the drop pin. A speck got on there right next to the glue and I freaked and had to pick up the protector and dab the dust bit up. That lead to me hurrying/panicking and nearly forgetting a step.
4. Either before you start or after you drop the glass on the glue and it spreads make sure you and/or the phone are in a position where you can inspect all sides/angles before applying the UV light. I would not have had the bubble if I had been in such a position. It was on the curve of the glass on the far side away from me and I didn't see it :/
5. DO NOT remove any part of the positioning jig until you have hit it with the first 15 seconds of UV light. That cover is floating on a lot of liquid and will skate all over the place if you aren't careful.
6. You can gently tap/(very gently)push down a bit to push glue in to bubbles but be aware doing so will most likely lead to it "squirting" out the edge(s) a bit.
7. Do this when you are not in a hurry and well rested (not exhausted like I was). Make sure no one will bust in the room you are working and bug you (or swirl up the air). Do it in a clean environment. Wait for the AC to be OFF and no fans on so air isn't causing dust bits to swirl. I wore Nit-rile gloves to minimize any bits falling off my skin/hair (don't touch the screen with the gloves once cleaned or you may end up with a residue on it). If you are at all unsure about your install or what your results will be like DO NOT hit the glue with the UV light. Up until then it can be cleaned off and you have another bottle for try 2. Afterwards the say its impossible to clean and re-use thought I may put that to the test much later on.
If you want perfect results then EVERYTHING must go perfectly or you will not have perfect results. Even if its perfect bubbles may still get missed :/
**This screen protector install is NOT for the faint of heart or someone who is not willing to take the time and even dry run it a couple of times to be sure they have it down or the results will be less than optimal. This is coming from someone who can take apart these Samsung phones and replace the display itself!
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I didn't tape anything off and had to wipe a little glue off the side where the volume buttons are located. The glue didn't get into the speakers or any ports. The glue didn't even make to the volume buttons (close to the buttons but not touching.
Definitely make sure to have a level surface. I used the Bubble Level app to ensure the surface I was working on was level.
I watched the youtube videos a couple times and had it running while I was performing the install. Aside from the barely noticeable two air bubbles (and I mean BARELY noticeable), the install was fairly straight forward and easy.
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I didn't tape anything off and had to wipe a little glue off the side where the volume buttons are located. The glue didn't get into the speakers or any ports. The glue didn't even make to the volume buttons (close to the buttons but not touching.
Definitely make sure to have a level surface. I used the Bubble Level app to ensure the surface I was working on was level.
I watched the youtube videos a couple times and had it running while I was performing the install. Aside from the barely noticeable two air bubbles (and I mean BARELY noticeable), the install was fairly straight forward and easy.
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I will grant you, if you don't give a crap what it looks like then yes. Its easy. I am a perfectionist. It requires absolute perfection if you want perfect results. There is no room for error, and no "fix" it later if you screw up. Other tempered glass you can remove, use tape and pull debris off it and re-install. This says you can't remove it once glued and re-use. To quote them "It is impossible"
So when your installing it, and you want perfection and you think about the fact that $50 is on the line if you blow it well.... its more stress than I like for doing that job.
It also yields the best results of any protector I have ever used so risk vs reward I guess.
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I will grant you, if you don't give a crap what it looks like then yes. Its easy. I am a perfectionist. It requires absolute perfection if you want perfect results. There is no room for error, and no "fix" it later if you screw up. Other tempered glass you can remove, use tape and pull debris off it and re-install. This says you can't remove it once glued and re-use. To quote them "It is impossible"
So when your installing it, and you want perfection and you think about the fact that $50 is on the line if you blow it well.... its more stress than I like for doing that job.
It also yields the best results of any protector I have ever used so risk vs reward I guess.
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Good luck with that. lol
I have circled the two air bubbles that I have. Only noticeable with the screen off.
warkentinkd said:
Good luck with that. lol
I have circled the two air bubbles that I have. Only noticeable with the screen off.
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Now with attachment. lol
hx4700 Killer said:
I stand corrected. I did my install last night and taped the speaker just in case and probably should have run tape around the perimeter of the phone as well. It came out nice but for one tiny bubble right at the curve that isn't visible when in use and mostly only in bright light.
Tips:
1. I definitely recommend taping not only the speaker but the perimeter below the glass so it can't go in buttons or ports. I had to wipe down the vol up/down side a bit.
2. Absolutely make sure the work surface is level. I have a tiny level I set across the screen face in both directions while it was inserted in to the jig to confirm this.
3. Write down the steps on a short, simple checklist you can refer to and put it on the table next to the phone so you don't miss any. I almost forgot to tilt the phone after removing the adhesive "bridge" and setting the tempered glass down in the slot and across the drop pin. A speck got on there right next to the glue and I freaked and had to pick up the protector and dab the dust bit up. That lead to me hurrying/panicking and nearly forgetting a step.
4. Either before you start or after you drop the glass on the glue and it spreads make sure you and/or the phone are in a position where you can inspect all sides/angles before applying the UV light. I may not have had the bubble if I had been in such a position to more thoroughly inspect. It was on the curve of the glass on the far side away from me and I didn't see it and I was afraid to move the jig :/
5. DO NOT remove any part of the positioning jig until you have hit it with the first 15 seconds of UV light. That cover is floating on a lot of liquid and will skate all over the place if you aren't careful.
6. You can gently tap/(very gently)push down a bit to push glue in to bubbles but be aware doing so will most likely lead to it "squirting" out the edge(s) a bit.
7. Do this when you are not in a hurry and well rested (not exhausted like I was). Make sure no one will bust in the room you are working and bug you (or swirl up the air). Do it in a clean environment. Wait for the AC to be OFF and no fans on so air isn't causing dust bits to swirl. I wore Nit-rile gloves to minimize any bits falling off my skin/hair (don't touch the screen with the gloves once cleaned or you may end up with a residue on it). If you are at all unsure about your install or what your results will be like DO NOT hit the glue with the UV light. Up until then it can be cleaned off and you have another bottle for try 2. Afterwards the say its impossible to clean and re-use thought I may put that to the test much later on.
If you want perfect results then EVERYTHING must go perfectly or you will not have perfect results. Even if its perfect bubbles may still get missed :/
**This screen protector install is NOT for the faint of heart or someone who is not willing to take the time and even dry run it a couple of times to be sure they have it down or the results will be less than optimal. This is coming from someone who can take apart these Samsung phones and replace the display itself!
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I had bubbles in the top center and took off after two days. That's glue did not come off screen protector and trying to wipe off glue caused scratches on the inside off the glass. So now I have to but another package. I love the way it looked but be very careful on the part of lowering the glass after applying the glue. I went too fast and let it slam down and got bubbles. I watched a video saying u can take off and reapply, yeah that didn't work.
Be really careful, and tape the head speaker in case...
I'll tell you my story, which Murphy's law hit me with! I admit i didn't think this would happen to me... but it did, as always.
So i was being really careful, as this is a one shot story... watched the youtube video, surface was perfectly flat, the glass perfectly clean. Once the "glue" was put I saw a little dust, took it away, I was about to put the glass on top, fingers were stable as a sniper... Then suddenly out of nowhere two things happen : 1. i forgot to put the volume of my computer down and got a message which surprised me, 2. my dog decided to run after a bird across my office and while doing so hit my knee under my table... the destabilised me, the glass fell on the screen, didn't land on the level bar obviously and splashed the glue all over the place... and into the top speaker grill.... luckily i had an alcohol bottle and some cotton swap next to me, so i immediately cleaned the speaker but I guess some glue fell inside...
result : i was able to perfectly align the glass, small air bubbles that i was able to move out thanks to a hairdryer, I was able to recover 80% of my volume in my damaged speaker... but still trying to figure a way to win those 20%. Seems like some liquid is still on/inside the speaker OR the glue dried on the speaker INSIDE....trying with the hairdryer, maybe the cotton swab alcohol dripped inside. Well if anyone has an idea how to recuperate that lose, please share.
Just in case you have air bubble, use a hairdryer... but be careful of the heat. Also, i tried it on my Ringke Onyx.. it barely didn't work, so it bended a corner of the glass... but when i changed cases, used the hairdryer, and it fixed the issue.
Trial and error, trust me, you wanna put that tape, just in case Murphy decides to write a new law with you as example...
notefreak said:
How do you then get masking tape off the top speaker? I am pretty sure it is not in demo videos?
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Is this a serious question?
Kawaisa said:
Is this a serious question?
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I just used scotch tape. It came off easily. You are supposed to run the light for 15 seconds on each end first then remove from the holder. Wipe off excess around screen and then do the final cure. Tape just lifted off and removing any excess glue around the perimeter is easy.
FIRST STEP MAKE SURE THE UV LIGHT WORKS. My first one the uv light was junk and I already had glue on. Really annoying.
I would also watch out when taking the bridge off with the uv glue. It can drip. I had it happen twice. I was worried the drips would cause a bubble so I picked up the whole thing and tilted it like the old game where you tilt the playing surface and move the ball around a maze. The puddle will move around like a ball of Mercury. Move the main puddle of glue to the drips and they join it like the liquid metal of the T-1000 in terminator 2. Then move the whole puddle back and gently set it down. Finish your install. I have done 3 now and think I can get it perfect every time.
Make sure you pinch the tray together at the bottom when you lay the glass on just before release. I had the tray separate and the whole glass slid between and fell right past the stopping tab you pull out and onto the phone in the wrong spot. Next time I made sure and pinch the bottom of the tray as I set the glass on it.
I also successfully removed the glass from a cured phone without breaking the glass. Just lift carefully from each edge and work your way in. You must go very slow and use very little force. I bet the glass could be cleaned up. I tried acetone and gave up as it didn't make a dent in it. That glue is tough. There may be something out there that will remove the glue and not jack the glass up I just don't want to invest time in it.
Hi guys,
has anyone of you tried changing the front glass without digitizer and display?
In disassembly videos I can only see people changing the whole thing.
Also, do you think I can manage to repair the front glas as well as the USB port with just an iron instead of a hot air blower (and the usual tools made of plastic)?
Thanks in advance!
kadofl said:
Hi guys,
has anyone of you tried changing the front glass without digitizer and display?
In disassembly videos I can only see people changing the whole thing.
Also, do you think I can manage to repair the front glas as well as the USB port with just an iron instead of a hot air blower (and the usual tools made of plastic)?
Thanks in advance!
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I haven't done the front glass on mine yet, but my understanding is that in general you're really better off replacing front glass as an entire unit with digitizer and display. An iron on pretty low through a cloth/towel might well work. It's not just glue that melts, it's a thin strip of rubber gasket material with adhesive (okay, maybe it's thick glue, but it looked pre-formed to me) holding the glass back cover on.
Heating probably helps a bit with softening the stuff, but after the first time you peel it up you won't really need to do that again. I'd recommend picking a corner (say, bottom left as you're looking at the back) and just plan on prying from there every time, so you only have one spot where the plastic gets marred.
Don't spend too much time heating, worry more about having a suction cup tool that you can lift with while you try to work a guitar pick or hobby knife or something in under the corner. Have at least two ready, so you can wedge one in, and work your way around without it just dropping back down on you. You'll probably tear the material a bit but that's okay, just spread it back out evenly around the edge on the glass before you put the cover back on. Also, you definitely should be using a case to make sure it doesn't just fall off in your pocket once you've opened it up a couple times.
USB cable replacement isn't awful, just time consuming. The biggest gotcha is to keep all three of the little gold clips on the plastic "mid frame" ring (that's the first thing you remove that requires screws after getting the back glass up) from fallling and getting lost.
You can PM me if you have any questions about this, I've replaced my USB cable/port assembly a couple times (first replacement was defective). And I'm about to attempt replacing the screen as a whole unit with glass & digitizer on my wife's Z2 Plus, so I'll let you know how that goes.