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Xperia ROM development forum is a mess!!

Xperia ROM development forum is a mess!!

Guys,
every day i see a new thread created by some users.
It is mostly like, how can i do this, how can i do that.
It is really simple, if you want to ask something about an option or a function that isn;t working then please post in the corresponding thread so we can have a clean forum.
Here is a link to the rules:http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
please read it guys, it is very annoying to see a new thread everytime.
mods, please put some time in this xperia forum with cleaning out the ''litter''
@ all, thank you very much for your cooperation.

Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?

i understand what ur saying but a im pretty sure a mod has just moved some of the useless threads because a lot of them have been moved

Shazad.K said:
Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?
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Stop complaining... j/k
No, I think you made your point. You don't need any more spamming of THIS thread.

yeah thats right the forum is mess
but why?
the people are lazy to read
i hope we can change this in the future....
greetZ
and to all other Merry X MAS

Shazad.K said:
Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?
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No.
I think people read your post and ignored it because it contained nothing useful in itself. It's a public forum, if you want neat and tidy you're probably in the wrong place.
I'm not looking to pick argument it just seems to me your original post was pointless. In most cases the title of a thread gives you enough info to decided whether it's worthy of reading.
Sure there are plenty of people who come here just to get what they want and give nothing back, again it's the nature of the beast. But I think there's still plenty of people who are willing to give as well as take and on a whole the forum still functions well.
My biggest gripe would be people asking questions answered on the previous page (i.e. lack of search) not untidiness.
Also I think the X1 forum has lost a lot of active members to the LEO forum recently. Again this is inevitable given the age of the device and the progression of handsets.
The LEO thread is much more active currently IMO. POP over there, don't forget most of what they're discussing applies to our device too.

pheL said:
yeah thats right the forum is mess
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Confirm, a bit..
pheL said:
but why?
the people are lazy to read
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this is true, but some can also give reasons (which are also true) that some threads are really huge, specially good rom threads, on average they are 1000 posts longs, some go as long as 11,000 posts (valkyrie), when someone new get a rom and gets a small bug, it is really impossible to read all past thread, and unfortunately the thread search is not always helpful...
the best thing for a rom forum is to be a wiki, where each rom gets a page with generic information, and links to threads of sub pages that have useful information, like how to fix a known bug, or where to get an app that does that thing..... and leave the bla bla discussions or personal opinions on the forum.
some rom developers follow such a method, but partially, in the first few posts reserved for the rom you sometimes find links to common issues and solutions, but after a while everything gets messy again....
a ROM is a "product" that needs its own area or even a forum by itself. not a single forum for many products, this brings the mess....
but this need much organization, the price to be less messy

Newbies don't know their way around
Shazad.K said:
Guys,
every day i see a new thread created by some users.
It is mostly like, how can i do this, how can i do that.
It is really simple, if you want to ask something about an option or a function that isn;t working then please post in the corresponding thread so we can have a clean forum.
Here is a link to the rules:http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
please read it guys, it is very annoying to see a new thread everytime.
mods, please put some time in this xperia forum with cleaning out the ''litter''
@ all, thank you very much for your cooperation.
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You are right and its mostly down to newbies. I'm someone who makes a point of holding off on posting on a few forum until I see the layout, get the rules, etc. so I don't annoy seasoned members and get a bad rep for being stupid.
A lot of new members to the site are a bit out of their depth (I know I was when I first joined) and its not really only being used as a developers forum/site any more. If you're a newbie you've got two choices: (1) ask, (2) spend countless hours trying to work it out for yourself.
I guess the lazy ones are a bit thread happy!
EmuX
P.S. You can show people the rules but you can't make them read.
P.P.S. Isn't this another one of those clogging up threads that aren't anything to do with ROM dev though?! (joke)

I hovered around in the X1 forum for a little more than a year, and most recently, after getting a new (additional) toy, I moved over to another forum, the one which is mentioned here already.
Frankly spoken, I have the perception that the X1 forum here is quite in order, while the HD2 forum is a real mess. For many "similar" problems and questions, many newcomers open a new thread instead of using the search function. In case of the X1 forum, there is much more "discipline".
Plus, the mods of the forums are quite effective here, I would say.
I am still very thankful that xda devs exists, thanks to all who contribute, especially the cooks... and also to those who help understanding the forum (and its rules) to newcomers. All of us started "small" and as "newb", no? And from time to time, I try to help, too - even if I am just an "average" user.

Mods please close thread
I think the point is made.
mods, please close this thread

im partly responsible for your this thread and once agian, i am sorry....i promise u it wont happen again..
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill
Sorry to all the mods and admins again...

Beeing able to post

I don't understand why we need to post 10 times to change our state to a "normal" user... so, I post my first time, i see this for months but really now i wanna participate when i'm feeling comfortable.

dhmorales said:
I don't understand why we need to post 10 times to change our state to a "normal" user... so, I post my first time, i see this for months but really now i wanna participate when i'm feeling comfortable.
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You only need 10 posts to post in the development sections. You can post in all the other sections.
This is to stop people creating threads in the development forums before they have familiarised themselves with the site a bit more. This means that the development forums are not cluttered with rubbish that mods have to move, and that we members can find our way round a lot easier.
Feel free to participate in the general and Q&A forums to build up both your knowledge and post count. Then, if you have anything to contribute (in the way of development) you can post in the correct place.

Blarg *being*!!!
Please change it so it doesn't bug me until this thread dies
Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running CM7'

For more of an explanation of the 10 post rule, please see the link in my sig. Thread closed so people do not feed off of it to bump their post count.

[Q] New member 10 posts?

How do I get rid of this 10 posts rule? I need to ask questions in the development forum. I develop and test roms for the last year, not sure why I need 10 posts in general forums in order to post there.

it is forum rules
dont want fresher‘s rubbish posts here

That's the rule, and we're bound to follow. ^.~

We all are
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA

There are no questions to ask in dev section. Its dev only. Not end user.
Then again i9000 dev section is full of end users spamming the board and not reading anything.
Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9000 met Tapatalk

Tewlman252 said:
We all are
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
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took me almost a month to reach 10-posts..suppose its a good thing..but a bit frustrating

just working on that myself... I wanna ask some question in the develepoment forum

Blackherted said:
just working on that myself... I wanna ask some question in the develepoment forum
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Me too!

I want to thank a developper for his wonderfull Rom .....but till i have not reached 10 posts...... i can't.....

Yes... i want ask in dev forum but...

I report bugs and discuss via private message with some devs.

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johnypintas said:
[I must agree its not easy to reach 10 posts :/
I´ve wanted to post bug reports, send private messages, help out in general, but dev section is still locked for me...
anyways, thanks to our devs, i now have an up-to-date device (I9001) Thanks to them
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The very fact that you are making this post and posts here , means you are NOT restricted to make any useful posts on any forum but the development forum.
why?
Because its suppose to be spam free and Q&A threads are kept out of that forum to ensure ONLY development matters are discussed by Developers and members who have understood the rules and guidelines on how to use XDA site. New members need to understand this and respect them.
what do they need to understand?
This site was created by Developers for Developers
watch
what this videos conveys repeatedly are that there are dedicated forums and you need to LEARN to use the search engine
1) Use the search , instead of asking a question, as it is and has been asked by someone else and already answered so do not spam
2) Read, research and learn by looking in the right direction, so do not spam.
3) When reading the threads, you may come across, some interesting things and there you can make your own suggestions and or your findings, so do not spam
4) Specific Q&A threads are available for most phones, where you can ask questions, seek advice from others using similar phone like yours, so do not spam.
5) How do you find these threads? use the search, a few available on each forum for specific searches, so do not Spam.
6) There are even OT threads ( off topic) meant for members to have some fun, but not meant for beginners as you should at least have made 10 posts that had increased your knowledge or increased others by giving advice.
This community wants you to learn and walk the walk that all member's had to go through, just like citizens of a country have to undergo certain criteria to be a citizen of that country.
So, there you have it, its not about you learning to spam or posting out of disgust to reach to get over 10 posts but about you learning and achieving the status of an XDA member as well as learning how to find what you want with the search engine.
Again, if you learnt to spam, you may be penalized so avoid it at all cost making ten useful posts will only take a short time for anyone wishing to learn as well as teach or correct others. Try involving in a discussion thread, it will be over within hours
Finally you don't need to ask a question in the developers forum, there are Device specific forums, which you should and can use. Click the WIKI button on top of any forum and you can locate your Device WIKI page or your can use the general forum for such questions, either you will get an answer by a Member or the Moderator will move your post to the Device specific forum. So you must subscribe to your post, such that you will know where it has been moved to.
let me give you an idea
general forums A, or B
Q & A Forums A, or B,
Now if you look at Q&A, forums there are sticky threads in that forum for practically any question or phone by noobs where members are asking you to post , so that they can help you.
Mind you, above are only for people who cannot locate their phone model via the search . So when there is a specific forum for your device, there is also a Q&A thread in that forum for that device.
So you see clearly @Aeneas is spamming this thread, and someone will report him , and his count will be ZERO posts because of spamming instead of learning.
Just for the record, I have made over 2000 posts and I can tell you ONLY less than FIVE of them in Development Forums as a member in all this duration.
Hope this helps you understand
Check this out! You , YES! you are an " Android ". Not your phone but U.​

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Read carefully what ^^^xsenman^^^ has posted.
Look HERE as well.
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malybru
Forum Moderator

How do I POST replies in DEVELOPMENT Forums?

I have an Atrix 4G and a fair bit of knowledge on it. These forums are really good, but it would be useful if I could reply to threads in the atrix development. I have answers and questions, but I don't know if I need to be approved or something like that in order to post in the forums.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298

atrix4g18 said:
I have an Atrix 4G and a fair bit of knowledge on it. These forums are really good, but it would be useful if I could reply to threads in the atrix development. I have answers and questions, but I don't know if I need to be approved or something like that in order to post in the forums.
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Since you are past 10 posts now you should be able to post there. If it still doesn't work in a few hours, then you might ping one of the mods in that forum to take a look at your account and see if there is some issue there.

You need 10 posts to post in development forums, which you can find out more about by looking at the links in my signature.
The server only updates permissions periodically so yours may not have been changed yet, but you have the required post count.
I've had a look at your posts and you're not a typical "10 post spammer" that we see a lot of in here, which is greatly appreciated, but it's still worth a reminder about the following things.
Don't create threads in Development forums unless it's to release software. Questions go in either a relevant existing thread, or a new one in the Q&A forum (or General forum if there's no device-specific Q&A forum). And on that note, always search thoroughly before asking. Nothing irritates other members more than seeing the same questions asked over and again.
Anyway, just bare the above in mind and go enjoy the forums. I'm just glad I don't have to delete a bunch of pointless posts

Archer said:
You need 10 posts to post in development forums, which you can find out more about by looking at the links in my signature.
The server only updates permissions periodically so yours may not have been changed yet, but you have the required post count.
I've had a look at your posts and you're not a typical "10 post spammer" that we see a lot of in here, which is greatly appreciated, but it's still worth a reminder about the following things.
Don't create threads in Development forums unless it's to release software. Questions go in either a relevant existing thread, or a new one in the Q&A forum (or General forum if there's no device-specific Q&A forum). And on that note, always search thoroughly before asking. Nothing irritates other members more than seeing the same questions asked over and again.
Anyway, just bare the above in mind and go enjoy the forums. I'm just glad I don't have to delete a bunch of pointless posts
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Yeah man I just want to contribute. Do I need a "thanks" or something like that ?
Also can an admin "approve me" or something like that? My only other question is the five minute between post wait can that be removed? For example I'm just waiting now to send this reply, it's no big deal, just wondering.
Also I posted a thread here asking basically the same question, I don't know how to delete it, but here's a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783730

atrix4g18 said:
Yeah man I just want to contribute. Do I need a "thanks" or something like that ?
Also can an admin "approve me" or something like that? My only other question is the five minute between post wait can that be removed? For example I'm just waiting now to send this reply, it's no big deal, just wondering.
Also I posted a thread here asking basically the same question, I don't know how to delete it, but here's a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783730
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Nope, its not reflected by Thanks Meter. Just 10 posts is decent enough. For deleting/closing that Thread, you need to contact the Forum Specific Moderator assigned to that Forum.

mf2112 said:
Since you are past 10 posts now you should be able to post there. If it still doesn't work in a few hours, then you might ping one of the mods in that forum to take a look at your account and see if there is some issue there.
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Thanks, how do I "ping a mod" ?
@coolsandie alright thanks. I guess I will just wait.

atrix4g18 said:
Thanks, how do I "ping a mod" ?
@coolsandie alright thanks. I guess I will just wait.
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At the top of each forum the mods responsible for that forum should be listed. I was suggesting to send one of them a PM, but Archer answered you here.

I got it. Thanks for the help I can post now!
@mf2112 thanks it's working fine now I can post replies !

10 Posts needed for android development reply's

Hello,
Why do users need to post 10 posts on the forum before they can join the android development discussions? I've bin a user for quite some time now but i don't post a lot because when i say something it's something that is nowhere else to be found... So i found it quite annoying i needed to write 10 bull**** posts to join a discussion that is usefull.
Greets,
Daniël

Normally, new users look for non ROM-specific solutions.
Some tend to post in wrong subforums, so they're limited to General.
Sent from my LG-H812 using Tapatalk

danielvande said:
Hello,
Why do users need to post 10 posts on the forum before they can join the android development discussions? I've bin a user for quite some time now but i don't post a lot because when i say something it's something that is nowhere else to be found... So i found it quite annoying i needed to write 10 bull**** posts to join a discussion that is usefull.
Greets,
Daniël
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With such an eloquent and beneficial post such as this (where you cannot even follow the forum rules about swearing), I can see we have really been missing your wisdom in development forums.
I am closing this thread lest your incredible nuggets of profundity explode the minds of us mere mortals.