[Q] Disable Hard Reset - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I would like to write simple security app for my phone, that wouldn't allow manipulating with mobile after it is ordered to enter disabled mode. I thought about it, and there are 2 things needed to be done. First I'll have to disable screen - not a hard task, but secondly, I need to ensure anyone won't be able to hard reset phone until mobile have disabled state. Normal reset won't be a problem, I plan to start that security app right after the phone powers up and load windows.
If the phone won't respond to commands and to perform hard reset(which would allow bypassing app by wiping it), phone is useless to anybody.
So if I want that to work, I need to disable hard-reset option by any means, but not disable whole phone.It got to be able to power up so app can again run and undo all changes. Is there any way to do that and don't break anything?
I've seen similiar app to what I want build, but it disabled phone totaly, so even after recovering it, it was unusable. That is where I want to improve, so I'd be glad if someone could help me.

i know nothing about mobile programing, but got some though regard what you want to achieve, you may need a customized password protected bootloader.

Dark_Raven said:
I would like to write simple security app for my phone, that wouldn't allow manipulating with mobile after it is ordered to enter disabled mode. I thought about it, and there are 2 things needed to be done. First I'll have to disable screen - not a hard task, but secondly, I need to ensure anyone won't be able to hard reset phone until mobile have disabled state. Normal reset won't be a problem, I plan to start that security app right after the phone powers up and load windows.
If the phone won't respond to commands and to perform hard reset(which would allow bypassing app by wiping it), phone is useless to anybody.
So if I want that to work, I need to disable hard-reset option by any means, but not disable whole phone.It got to be able to power up so app can again run and undo all changes. Is there any way to do that and don't break anything?
I've seen similiar app to what I want build, but it disabled phone totaly, so even after recovering it, it was unusable. That is where I want to improve, so I'd be glad if someone could help me.
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hey, this sounds like a cool task. I can help with the SPL modification.
you would also want to protect it from reflashing with another ROM.

cmonex said:
hey, this sounds like a cool task. I can help with the SPL modification.
I think it might be just enough for now If we could password protect our systems from being wiped/flashed, but as I read, this wasn't possible. I'm not sure if times changed, but with android and win7 becoming popular, I doubt that anyone will take an effort and I don't know enough to make it by myself...
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Dark_Raven said:
cmonex said:
hey, this sounds like a cool task. I can help with the SPL modification.
I think it might be just enough for now If we could password protect our systems from being wiped/flashed, but as I read, this wasn't possible. I'm not sure if times changed, but with android and win7 becoming popular, I doubt that anyone will take an effort and I don't know enough to make it by myself...
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this can be done in several different ways by changing SPL...if you're interested PM me and I can sort something for you.
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This will be cool app .
I think what cmonex said may help by securing SPL itself, to start with.
Thanks.

Disable Hard Reset?
I think someone has already done that - and sent it to me in a virus in an MMS. My phone keeps wanting to "Power Off". If I respond "Yes", it immediately restarts. If I respond "No", it wants to "Power Off" again after a couple of minutes. The phone doesn't respond to the power button. I can't perform a hard reset.
I've been trying to find a copy of the shipped ROM to try reflashing it, but none of the links to the Australian Telstra ROM (2.31.841.6) seem to work. Can't seem to find one ANYWHERE?
This is driving me CRAZY.
Is there any OTHER way of doing a hard reset (eg while connected to PC?)
PS Oddly enough, it seems that while the phone is connected to the usb port of the PC, it DOESN'T try to power off! - Whoops, cancel that... "Power Off" dialog just came up!

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Ghost device? Not registering..

Hi there,
Firstly, be gentle - I'm new to all this.
My Kaiser has recently started to mess with me. It will not connect with my PC for activesync. I've tried plugging it into PC's at work too all with the same problem: the host PC's do not notice the device being plugged into the USB however the phone will start to charge from the PC's USB.
I've tried disabling the "advanced network functionability" toggle, and even different USB cables.
I really don't want to hard reset the device until I get Sprite working (after an upgrade which I cannot do due to not being able to connect).
Whoever can help will make my Christmas card list this year
Frank.
You can have SPB backup your phone to an executable .exe file on you SD card if you have room and then hard reset.
Only problem with this is when you do a restore, you will probably restore the fault again.
Best option is just to backup your data (no apps or settings) with SPB, do a hard reset and put any cabs back on one by one to check if its one of those causing the prob.
Thank's for the suggestion Farsquidge. It looks like this will have to be the solution unless others have been through this.
It's annoying that WM6 is such a pain. So many small bugs on this device it makes me question where I'd rather settle with a mobile: Versatility + unreliability OR Normal phone + reliability.
effsee said:
Thank's for the suggestion Farsquidge. It looks like this will have to be the solution unless others have been through this.
It's annoying that WM6 is such a pain. So many small bugs on this device it makes me question where I'd rather settle with a mobile: Versatility + unreliability OR Normal phone + reliability.
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I hope someone can help you further on this.
It can be a pain to get them set up just how you want them but once working they are great!
With all the complex functions it has, there is no wonder people have problems (how many times do people reset their PC's or have a game or app crash it?)
That's what this forum is about, no-one knows everything and sharing info is the best way to do it. I find tons of uesful info and tips on here that just keep on enhancing the unit but, inevitably, I may add an app, or a tweak just not right for my phone and have to resort to the old hard reset and put it all back on again.
It's fun but gives you a wakeup kick at times!
Forgot to suggest, if you do not already have SP Backup, (because you cant sync) put your SD card in a compatible card reader on your PC then run it on your phone.
My suggestion would be this - download the trial for SPB Pocket Plus and install it (they have a CAB available). In the settings, go enable the "Safe Mode" boot option and soft reset. When the Safe Mode dialog appears, boot in safe mode and see if your computer recognizes the phone now.
If it does, something you've installed is messing with your phone. Start rolling back installations and resetting taking off the app at the top of the list under Remove Programs. After each app, boot in normal mode and see if you can connect. If not, rinse and repeat.
If you ever get a "normal" connection, you'll know which app or combination of apps caused your problem.
PerfAlbion said:
My suggestion would be this - download the trial for SPB Pocket Plus and install it (they have a CAB available). In the settings, go enable the "Safe Mode" boot option and soft reset. When the Safe Mode dialog appears, boot in safe mode and see if your computer recognizes the phone now.
If it does, something you've installed is messing with your phone. Start rolling back installations and resetting taking off the app at the top of the list under Remove Programs. After each app, boot in normal mode and see if you can connect. If not, rinse and repeat.
If you ever get a "normal" connection, you'll know which app or combination of apps caused your problem.
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Nice one!! I only have the SPB 'Lite' that came on the HTC CD that does not have that option. Will look at their site for an upgrade myself.
Cheers..

Is there any "safe mode" for HTC Diamond?

Hi guys
I did a mistake and I increased the cash size of my Diamond too much. So, when I turn it on, it gets stuck at the green "windows page" (FLO3D does not start). So is there any "safe mode" so I can fix the registry without flashing the whole thing?
I have installed SBSH iLauncher and selected "always" safe mode prompt whenever soft boot. So far each time safe mode function well until I installed Microsoft Reader v2.4.1 few days ago. The device cannot boot up and finally display a screen saying something like I might have shut down the device wrongly or installed some software not compatible. I am forced to hard reset the device and installed everything again. The Monocube Safe Mode v2.x still cannot work in WM6.1 device. Same thing happen to Spb Pocket Plus since it is using the same Safe Mode. I am afraid there is only SBSH iLauncher offers safe mode, but it still cannot prevent my device from poor installation. Perhaps it might help not to load certain Today Plugin only when the safe mode prompt. For some scenario the device just cannot boot up the safe mode and there is no other alternative but to hard reset.
What do you mean by safemode????
There is no safemode in WM6. Hard reset and do it right the next time.
Cheers!
sensorama said:
What do you mean by safemode????
There is no safemode in WM6. Hard reset and do it right the next time.
Cheers!
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SBSH´s iLauncher as well as SPB´s PocketPlus DO provide an option for a safe mode on the WM platform......they do this by not loading today plug-ins and other certain modules, that can mess up your OS....
I think, there´s even a very good article about it in the WIKI of this forum. However, SPB´s products are still NOT oficially supporting WM6.1......
michi123 said:
SPB´s products are still NOT oficially supporting WM6.1......
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That said, I can confirm that the safe-mode function of SPB Pocket Plus does work fine on the Diamond.
To the OP, as discussed there are safe-mode programs available, however they require installing before you need them...
Mathew
sensorama said:
Hard reset and do it right the next time.
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+1
Although, as posted above, there is a way....
More interesting though, is what do you do when you've f*cked your device to the point it won't boot up, and you don't already have those programs installed? A way to edit the registry offline while the device is bricked would be nice... Like the PSP has the battery hack, a similar thing here would be nice. After all, the Diamond didn't come free, in fact there are quite pricey $$$, and there are many other things I would prefer to use as a paperweight before the Diamond.
I wonder if the ROM update software could be modified to allow editing the registry? I don't know enough about the way in which it functions internally, but someone here surely does. If it could, you could obviously reverse harmful changes and save yourself from hard-resetting and losing all those settings you took days to complete to perfection... Then you could relax a little more.. IF the IPL and SPL are working then you should be able to do anything within reason, am I right?
salada2k said:
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Although, as posted above, there is a way....
More interesting though, is what do you do when you've f*cked your device to the point it won't boot up, and you don't already have those programs installed? A way to edit the registry offline while the device is bricked would be nice... Like the PSP has the battery hack, a similar thing here would be nice. After all, the Diamond didn't come free, in fact there are quite pricey $$$, and there are many other things I would prefer to use as a paperweight before the Diamond.
I wonder if the ROM update software could be modified to allow editing the registry? I don't know enough about the way in which it functions internally, but someone here surely does. If it could, you could obviously reverse harmful changes and save yourself from hard-resetting and losing all those settings you took days to complete to perfection... Then you could relax a little more.. IF the IPL and SPL are working then you should be able to do anything within reason, am I right?
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Yea, see what you are saying. A kinda off-line regedit would be nice.
Well the future will tell. then again... its not that big hustle to reinstall your pda/diamond/whatever.... so im not that bothered.
cherrs!!!!
sensorama said:
What do you mean by safemode????
There is no safemode in WM6. Hard reset and do it right the next time.
Cheers!
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You don't seem to have read the sticky thread on reading the available information before asking / stating something... I've published several articles on Safe Mode. The Wiki even has a dedicated category at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Systems programs, Safe Mode booting etc on safe mode apps...
michi123 said:
I think, there´s even a very good article about it in the WIKI of this forum.
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Thanks
i also got stuck on the boot screen after a faulty aplication.
but after removing the sim , it went ok and i could uninstall the aplication.
worth the try
yep, recommend hard reset. spb pocket plus safemode works fine on touch pro
I have installed this piece of crap on my HTC Diamond (Blackberry connect WM6 pro 4.0.0.90) and now its stuck on boot screen (HTC logo).Is there ANY WAY to make htc working without hard reset?
Or,is there any way to save my personal data (contacts,photos,etc)and after that to do hard reset?
safe Mode for windows mobile
There is a way to restart in safe mode.You have to install SPB Pocket Plus for that.

Align screen by-pass

My phone does not suceed on aligning screen and therefore the set-up does not go through.
This happens with any rom I install. I assume is more a harwdware than a software problem, because I noticed some problems in the screen touch even before.
Is there a way to by-pass it and to force WinMo to complete the set-up process?
Thanks
tecmobility said:
My phone does not suceed on aligning screen and therefore the set-up does not go through.
This happens with any rom I install. I assume is more a harwdware than a software problem, because I noticed some problems in the screen touch even before.
Is there a way to by-pass it and to force WinMo to complete the set-up process?
Thanks
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What problem do you have? Is the aling screen proces start all over again after finishing all five steps? Sometimes I do the screen alingnment over four times. You should press right in the center of + with your stylus, and do not shake even a little bit because it will start again when you finish.
If this isn't the problem, hope someone else could help you, even that I don't believe it is possible.
Good Luck!
Cheers!
tecmobility said:
My phone does not suceed on aligning screen and therefore the set-up does not go through.
This happens with any rom I install. I assume is more a harwdware than a software problem, because I noticed some problems in the screen touch even before.
Is there a way to by-pass it and to force WinMo to complete the set-up process?
Thanks
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not sure if it will work on x1 but worth a shot.
turn off device
plug in usb cable with PC
start device
when active sync is loaded, go to main storage\windows\startup\ and delete welcome.lnk
lev phone on like that for a good tem min. then softrest
agent_47 said:
not sure if it will work on x1 but worth a shot.
turn off device
plug in usb cable with PC
start device
when active sync is loaded, go to main storage\windows\startup\ and delete welcome.lnk
lev phone on like that for a good tem min. then softrest
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Should work, but if i'm not getting this wrong this will also not let you run auto customizations
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Should work, but if i'm not getting this wrong this will also not let you run auto customizations
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he din mention he did a hard rest. :S....sometimes it may ask for allignment all of a sudden....my x1 did once
but if he has already done a hard rest then he has to wait 10min....should work or he could use the app (whose name i 4got ) to go into reg and delete the reg that triggers customization
PS: ill give more details when i get home n check out the app n the reg
tried to delete as you instructed.
Unfortunately he tells that I "cannot delete file welcome: access is denied"
any way to overcame it? tried also to rename or move, but with no avail
tecmobility said:
tried to delete as you instructed.
Unfortunately he tells that I "cannot delete file welcome: access is denied"
any way to overcame it? tried also to rename or move, but with no avail
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I had the same issue tried even deleting files via third party applications and skipping align screen but once u do it your screen doesn't react for any thing you do. you cannot configure neither ur buttons too sometimes doesnt work. the best way which I found that you try any of the original ROM version ..either UK or NAM which actually resets the radio and brings back in normal stage...hope it works for you.. then you may tryu doing hard SPL and install any of the cooked rom.
I have installed indeed the uK offical version...

[Q] a quick bypass of pattern lock

Recently my BFF thinks that her boyfriend is starting to lose feeling for her and start finding other girls. She wants to break up but her boyfriend won't let her go unless she provides evidence that he is losing feeling/cheating on her. She asked me to help but I'm at a loss except for one idea.
It was recently reported in the newspapers that you could bypass all security by freezing an android phone for an hour, then quickly removing the battery and putting it back on and turning it on while it was still below -10 degrees celcius. Is this really possible?
Secondly, his phone is a Galaxy Mini with whatever is the newest firmware (I'm a galaxy Mini II user so I'm not too sure), stock kernel, stock ROM, non-rooted but bootloader i think by default it's unlocked in SG. (mine came unlocked). It's been in use for quite some time only.
If the freezing is not possible, could we do it by any other method? note: before i can get pass the damn password i can't turn adb, unknown sources or debugging on.
Yeah that's all. Also, we can't wipe the /data since that's what we're gunning for. The method must be accomplish-able within 2 hours.
I might sound like I'm asking for a lot and might be unreasonable but please help.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. Please don't talk about the "just break up" or "politely ask him". If that had worked I wouldn't be asking here. He refuses to break up and he refuses to give his phone to me, even to "play". so called ethical hacking through the human link doesn't work anymore. We plan to take his phone for a while, bypass the pattern lock, then sieve through information.
blazerphoenix said:
Recently my BFF thinks that her boyfriend is starting to lose feeling for her and start finding other girls. She wants to break up but her boyfriend won't let her go unless she provides evidence that he is losing feeling/cheating on her. She asked me to help but I'm at a loss except for one idea.
It was recently reported in the newspapers that you could bypass all security by freezing an android phone for an hour, then quickly removing the battery and putting it back on and turning it on while it was still below -10 degrees celcius. Is this really possible?
Secondly, his phone is a Galaxy Mini with whatever is the newest firmware (I'm a galaxy Mini II user so I'm not too sure), stock kernel, stock ROM, non-rooted but bootloader i think by default it's unlocked in SG. (mine came unlocked). It's been in use for quite some time only.
If the freezing is not possible, could we do it by any other method? note: before i can get pass the damn password i can't turn adb, unknown sources or debugging on.
Yeah that's all. Also, we can't wipe the /data since that's what we're gunning for. The method must be accomplish-able within 2 hours.
I might sound like I'm asking for a lot and might be unreasonable but please help.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. Please don't talk about the "just break up" or "politely ask him". If that had worked I wouldn't be asking here. He refuses to break up and he refuses to give his phone to me, even to "play". so called ethical hacking through the human link doesn't work anymore. We plan to take his phone for a while, bypass the pattern lock, then sieve through information.
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ADB isn't on, well i think somehow exploit might work. Search around XDA there are some tutorials here.
F4uzan said:
ADB isn't on, well i think somehow exploit might work. Search around XDA there are some tutorials here.
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Erm sorry i'm not sure what do you mean by exploits. I'm sorry I'm kinda new to all these stuff.
How do u know that the phone is not "Debugging On"
Most android users are turning on that feature.
Well if the Debugging is ON ... I got the way to unlock the pattern within 1 minute.
Fastest way to bypass: Wipe data. If you can't, there are only harder ways.
Factory reset
You can always do a factory reset to remove the lock but it will wipe /data. You can still do that tho. It's explained here : http://www.hard-reset.com/samsung-gt-s5570-galaxy-mini-hard-reset.html . Also the fastboot mode works with adb swell as download mode.
Generalil said:
You can always do a factory reset to remove the lock but it will wipe /data. You can still do that tho. It's explained here : http://www.hard-reset.com/samsung-gt-s5570-galaxy-mini-hard-reset.html . Also the fastboot mode works with adb swell as download mode.
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Mini doesn't have fastboot. It only have Recovery, and Download Mode (don't tell me about normal boot).
My mistake ;P A habit from LG-GT540
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Random reboots and bootloops

Once and and while my Pixel 5 reboots and gets stuck in a bootloop. It happens while I listen to music with YouTube Music on a bluetooth ear phones or search for updates on the Play Store or nothing at all. I have no idea what is causing this.
I suspect one app called ProCall Mobile but I can't really test for two reasons: 1st it happens to randomly, weeks without one, than two in a row, than nothing for a month, or for few days, 2nd I need the app for my job and can't just remove it for testing.
I'm really annoyed by this, I also can't reset the phone because of reasons. Any ideas how can I narrow it down?
Sounds like something is causing a kernel panic, and it's hard to say what. The best thing I could really recommend is a complete factory reflash, but that requires an unlocked bootloader. I believe there may be a way to use ADB and USB Debugging to get a log dump, but I have no idea how to do that or how to read it.
V0latyle said:
Sounds like something is causing a kernel panic, and it's hard to say what. The best thing I could really recommend is a complete factory reflash, but that requires an unlocked bootloader. I believe there may be a way to use ADB and USB Debugging to get a log dump, but I have no idea how to do that or how to read it.
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I fear you are right. I think I should set aside a few hours on the weekend to do that.
tehabe said:
need the app for my job and can't just remove it for testing.
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Nope. If it's your phone, you don't have to keep any app on it. I have never experienced bootlooping or forced reboot on P5. Ask them for a work phone or tablet. It's not like old phones are expensive.
tehabe said:
I'm really annoyed by this, I also can't reset the phone because of reasons. Any ideas how can I narrow it down?
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Also nope. You can back the entire phone up on google, data reset and reinstall everything.
Try force stop and clear cache in app.
Uninstall reinstall app.
Remove all unused apps.
Check Battery Usage
Go to Dev Options and turn on System Tracing and other debuggin features. I highly doubt you will be able to figure it out from there, but it may help others.

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