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Jumped to sense 2.2, better performance than CM 6 rc1

So a coupla days back i decided to try sense 2.2 on my nexus as a joke. just to see how it was. i flashed kingxklicks alpha 3 and i was amazed at how well it performed. even better than cm 6. everything was smoother. sense was beautiful. but it had glitch problems. yesterday i jumped to evils dj droid port. less glitches. faster. and even smoother. its great. the only problems ive had have been with the graphical glitches in some areas. but i dont mind much as the web browser, camera and every other sense feature is worth it. compared to stock cm 6 web browser, the sense froyo one performs just as fast with much better implementation of flash 10.1, meaning when you scroll up and down a page with full flash the flash content follows the html content as it should, it doesnt lag behind. and the scrolling is much smoother. galaxy s live wallpapers even perform better. i dont understand why more effort isnt being put into porting over a perfect version of sense 2.2 from the desire. have you guys tried it? any thoughts?

Sense roms are built by the company who made the phone and has a team of paid engineers working around the clock.
CM roms are built from scratch by a group of developers on their own time.
You're surprised a ported sense rom is more refined than an unfinished rom by a group of hobbyist?

That's right... but I also see his point... I think the right comparison should be between sense and vanilla UI. No doubt CM ROM is awesome, and I believe the browser is even better than stock Vanilla Froyo, yet sense browser still seems better.
I dont think he intended to put CM down, it is a valid question though. It also made me wonder why, not a lot of devs are working on porting the desire 2.2 rom. However, I am also aware that since the nexus didn't run sense to start with, it might be tricky and a lot harder to do.
JCopernicus said:
Sense roms are built by the company who made the phone and haes a team of paid engineers working around the clock.
CM roms are built from scratch by a group of developers on their own time.
You're surprised a ported sense rom is more refined than an unfinished rom by a group of hobbyist?
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JCopernicus said:
Sense roms are built by the company who made the phone and has a team of paid engineers working around the clock.
CM roms are built from scratch by a group of developers on their own time.
You're surprised a ported sense rom is more refined than an unfinished rom by a group of hobbyist?
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lol dont get me wrong. im a hardcore cyanogen fan and have been using his roms constantly since i got my nexus. i love and appreciate his work and effort. but that was just my take on sense compared to cyanogens rc. i am not surprised that it is more refined than a release candidate by a group of hobbyists as much as i am surprised that devs dont take advantage of such a refined rom to perfect it so users have a solid rom that performs the way it should. i was satisfied with rc 1 until a friend of mine got a vibrant and i realized how much less responsive and less polished my rom was from his. i am patiently waiting for a final release of CM 6 to see how that performs compared to sense roms and even the vibrant.

CM is more of a hacker friendly customizing machine. This is awesome for all us who love to tinker. Sense is for people who like a nice clean refined complete theme without sacrificing performance. I personally switch between the 2 all the time...cant make up my mind!!
This is why I love my Nexus...choices.
PS Have you tried Pauls 2.2 port...no graphical glitches, awesome job so far.

Our best bet is to wait for Paul's 2.2 desire. It should be coming up soon. I am well content with the vanilla ROMs available right now. But the option to switch between the two would be sweet
carbonfiber1 said:
lol dont get me wrong. im a hardcore cyanogen fan and have been using his roms constantly since i got my nexus. i love and appreciate his work and effort. but that was just my take on sense compared to cyanogens rc. i am not surprised that it is more refined than a release candidate by a group of hobbyists as much as i am surprised that devs dont take advantage of such a refined rom to perfect it so users have a solid rom that performs the way it should. i was satisfied with rc 1 until a friend of mine got a vibrant and i realized how much less responsive and less polished my rom was from his. i am patiently waiting for a final release of CM 6 to see how that performs compared to sense roms and even the vibrant.
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joshlusignan said:
CM is more of a hacker friendly customizing machine. This is awesome for all us who love to tinker. Sense is for people who like a nice clean refined complete theme without sacrificing performance. I personally switch between the 2 all the time...cant make up my mind!!
This is why I love my Nexus...choices.
PS Have you tried Pauls 2.2 port...no graphical glitches, awesome job so far.
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No i havent tried pauls 2.2. he requires a premium membership and i cant afford that right now. But yeah ive heard his roms are great.
rjhay22 said:
Our best bet is to wait for Paul's 2.2 desire. It should be coming up soon. I am well content with the vanilla ROMs available right now. But the option to switch between the two would be sweet
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I saw somewhere that a sense froyo frf 91 has been leaked. so i guess thats what well be waiting for

Has HTC even finalized a 2.2 rom? Aren't all of these 2.2 roms leaks anyhow?

I doubt it.

kingklick92's tweet
froyo sense has a new leak: frf91... looks like a rebase may be necessary
about 5 hours ago via web
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joshlusignan said:
CM is more of a hacker friendly customizing machine. This is awesome for all us who love to tinker. Sense is for people who like a nice clean refined complete theme without sacrificing performance. I personally switch between the 2 all the time...cant make up my mind!!
This is why I love my Nexus...choices.
PS Have you tried Pauls 2.2 port...no graphical glitches, awesome job so far.
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It's the basic Mac vs PC/Linux thing. You want it to look pretty, or do you want to be able to make it do whatever you want?

This isn't even worth a debate, lets all celebrate the fact we've invested in a platform that allows us these opportunities to say the least. If you can't decide, install both, make nandroid backups of both and alternate at will.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Alpha3 was a bit too blotchy for my tastes. I do agree that its browser is awesome though. Honestly, after rc1 and millions of nightlies; I'm not looking forward to cm 6.0 final. I appreciate the cm teams full on efforts. They rock! I just can't stand anything other then the stock launcher. I wonder if I'm the only one that feels this way about adw and launcher pro. Their features are nice but what good is it if its gonna freeze, crash or become unresponsive. Thoughts?

sheek360 said:
Alpha3 was a bit too blotchy for my tastes. I do agree that its browser is awesome though. Honestly, after rc1 and millions of nightlies; I'm not looking forward to cm 6.0 final. I appreciate the cm teams full on efforts. They rock! I just can't stand anything other then the stock launcher. I wonder if I'm the only one that feels this way about adw and launcher pro. Their features are nice but what good is it if its gonna freeze, crash or become unresponsive. Thoughts?
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im with you on that one. the launcher was one of the main reasons i left cyanogen. but i flashed my stock launcher2.apk and it wasnt bad. cm 6 is choppy itself for now.
try evils rom. its not bad.

Y'all should try Enoms ROM too. I personally like LP better than ADW and never had FC on it. But enoms stock launcher is great too.

Nah. I'm enjoying stock 2.2. Haven't had one single issue since I flashed it. Very reliable. I hope cm6 gets done up with a stock launcher.

I wonder what cyanogen.. or paul feel about this.. Do you think android developers react to user made modifications? of course. This is why i love my nexus one. I pray google makes a adp3. I love options and im grateful for all the developers doing what they can. DONATE!

After reading this... I may try out Paul's R23, I love CM6, but I wouldn't mind trying out a Sense ROM for a day or so...

Can you choose between LP and ADW when you install CM6?

I'm using Paul's R23 after switching from Enom's. Its definitely smooth and beautiful but really isn't on the same level as Enom's or CM6 (which I used to have). It still has alot of isssues (recording, bt, a2sd), and maybe I was spoiled by the OC'd, UV'd kernels but it just feels slow to me. And can't even compare to the benchmarks I was hiting before in Quadrant.
Its still new though and hopefully progress will be made in these areas.
It would be great to see more than just a couple of devs working on this port.
Just my 0.02.
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

Best MIUI ROM

I am currently on Virtuous ROM and am getting sick and tired of sense 3.0. I have tried CM7 before and I didn't like it that much mainly because of the lack of a touch to focus camera, the buttons at the bottom wouldn't turn and a few other minor things that added up. But I am A BIG FAN of the launcher on the MIUI ROMS, can someone tell me the name of it or is it just a direct port of touch wiz? Anyways, there seem to be a lot of them but can someone tell me the one with the best speed, battery life, and gets updated regularly?
Thanks in advance,
Aodhan

The best MIUI ROM would be the officially supported one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183739
I used it for a couple hours but I found CM7 to be more polished. The launcher also wasn't as smooth as LauncherPro. I can't really comment on anything else except the MIUI Team will have a new release every Friday.
It's a nice ROM, it's just not to my taste.

Thanks, I tried it out but it just wasn't there yet. Plus the port to Incredible S needs some serious working on.

What about Mike's ARHD ROM without Sense?
Im using it and it's very fast, smooth and with good battery life.

MIUI is beautifull ROM, but couldn`t make dialer support russian simbols. Without that it`s kinda usless for me.

slsSpeC said:
The best MIUI ROM would be the officially supported one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183739
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I'm pretty sure that one isn't any more "official" than any other one on the forum. I don't think miui-us has any official affiliation with the actual MIUI team in China, they're just a group that happens to support a lot of phones.

[Q] Best Rom?

Hey guys, I was just looking for your opinion on the best, and most stable rom for the incredible s, currently I'm running miui 1.9.9 and am pretty pleased with it, Im just wondering what else is out there, I tried htc bliss beta 2 sense 3.5 because i missed sense but it had camera issues so Im wondering what your opinion is and what youve tried

android revolution hd is the best hands down imo

"Best rom" is very subjective, as I'm sure a few other people will point out. I for one am using CyanogenMod and can say that I am very happy with it and don't plan to change any time soon. If you want to find more roms you can go take a look at the Development section of the Incredible S forums, there you will find threads concerning roms that you can try out for your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1028
Hope you'll find something that suites you,
Cheers!

I agree with scoob on this one rev HD deff is one of the most stable ROMs out there. Cyanogen is very stable as well however I can't get over not having sense. I'd choose from those two both awesome HD is super fast while cyanogen is slightly slower yet is highly customizable and does not include sense.

well, as pointed out , the choice is very personal.
it depends on your preferences as there are some differences in most of the major roms.
so far i've tried ARHD, CM7, MIUI & Virtuous unity.
CM7 is quite good if you are interested in having a non-sense rom but the functionality, stability is top notch. CM7 has set a standard not just for stand alone developers but for corporate production as well.
ARHD is a very popular rom and most people using it will swear by it.
it is sense based, and it will feel like a charged up stock rom.
very professional as well.
MIUI is what i used the longest & i must admit it is a brilliant rom in the fact that it stands out in appearance & customization.
every app and every part of the system is beautified and it feels like a totally different phone. if you are looking to have a 'different' yet amazing phone, MIUI is the way to go.
but the major drawback with MIUI is that it is not officially supported for the INCs and thus there are some minimal bugs which can get a bit annoying.
And of course it has no app drawer, works like the iphone.
this can be handled by the wonderful app created by a member here called alt drawer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154299
i feel this is a must for MIUI.
finally, using VU at the moment and i feel it is a perfect blend of sense components and that little something extra.
looks, feels and works amazingly well, minimal bugs and almost feels like the perfect rom again...
i did however run into a few loop boots recently, but i think that can be worked on.
that's my personal opinion on all the roms...
and i think it would be a good opportunity to give a heartfelt 'thank you' for all the developers here working so damn hard on providing world class roms for us.
Thank you guys, we all do silently thank and appreciate all your efforts!

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but the major drawback with MIUI is that it is not officially supported for the INCs and thus there are some minimal bugs which can get a bit annoying.
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Inc S is officially supported at miui.us. The two things I miss with MIUI is SRS and handsfree mic. Other than that, its the best lightweight rom available for Inc S atm.
MIUI with Tiamat Kernel works very well.

If you like Sense 2.1 or 3.0 i prefer ARHD.
If you don't like Sense i would go for CyanogenMod 7 Nightly #68.
But that's just what i think ;-)

letmedanz said:
well, as pointed out , the choice is very personal.
it depends on your preferences as there are some differences in most of the major roms.
so far i've tried ARHD, CM7, MIUI & Virtuous unity.
CM7 is quite good if you are interested in having a non-sense rom but the functionality, stability is top notch. CM7 has set a standard not just for stand alone developers but for corporate production as well.
ARHD is a very popular rom and most people using it will swear by it.
it is sense based, and it will feel like a charged up stock rom.
very professional as well.
MIUI is what i used the longest & i must admit it is a brilliant rom in the fact that it stands out in appearance & customization.
every app and every part of the system is beautified and it feels like a totally different phone. if you are looking to have a 'different' yet amazing phone, MIUI is the way to go.
but the major drawback with MIUI is that it is not officially supported for the INCs and thus there are some minimal bugs which can get a bit annoying.
And of course it has no app drawer, works like the iphone.
this can be handled by the wonderful app created by a member here called alt drawer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154299
i feel this is a must for MIUI.
finally, using VU at the moment and i feel it is a perfect blend of sense components and that little something extra.
looks, feels and works amazingly well, minimal bugs and almost feels like the perfect rom again...
i did however run into a few loop boots recently, but i think that can be worked on.
that's my personal opinion on all the roms...
and i think it would be a good opportunity to give a heartfelt 'thank you' for all the developers here working so damn hard on providing world class roms for us.
Thank you guys, we all do silently thank and appreciate all your efforts!
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really nice explanation mate....

jpkbeddu said:
Inc S is officially supported at miui.us. .
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a community supported rom is not quite the same as developer support
Quoting them:
This is a community support ROM only!
The developers do not provide much support for this ROM on these forums
Support is mostly provided on forums.MIUI.us
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183739

i've been a user of ARHD, it's the most popular if i may say and developer is very responsive. i haven't gotten to try the other ROMs on an extended time but i'm pretty sold to the ARHD

I'm using CyanogenMod 7 and love it - very fast, good battery (after clearing battery data), and lightweight.
However it is the first ROM I've flashed and while I'm very happy with it, I'll still try others just to see what there is. But if you haven't tried it, give it a shot -you can easily download straight from the ROM manager app

i like revolution hd,but its sense 2.1

Im using arhd and it improves the batt life too. My first rom i flashed on my incredible s.

I'm using virtuos rom v2.37 by far the best rom with sense 3.0!! I've tried them all but the virtuos rom runs very smooth and no fc's.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

I m using ARHD 1.1.7 with sense 3.0 patch. everything works fine. however the guy who don't like sense UI must b use CM7. it comes with a lot of customization. miui also a good one. but i dun like it , lack of appdrawer. look like with iphone.

Zoeriva said:
I'm using virtuos rom v2.37 by far the best rom with sense 3.0!! I've tried them all but the virtuos rom runs very smooth and no fc's.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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+1 for that .. very good Rom..
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Android Revolution HD-Incredible S 1.1.7 from Mike

I'm using ARHD 1.1.7, fast and very, very stable. Didn't use any other custom ROM, though.

im using ARHD 1.1.7 too... u make any adjustments in the system?

[Q] Any "closet" TouchWiz lovers out there?

Thursday, April 5, 2012
XDA Members:
Okay. So this is going to sound a little strange. First, let me give you some back-story. A couple of months ago, I got my N7000. I was so happy. It was the best device I'd ever used. However, up until that moment, I had only ever used AOSP builds of Android; more specifically, CyanogenMod. So needless to say, TouchWiz immediately rubbed me the wrong way. I installed two additional launchers, and was torn between them. They were the stock Gingerbread launcher and ADW-EX. The speed of the AOSP Gingerbread launcher was addictive, but I was already so familiar with ADW from CyanogenMod. So I eventually just uninstalled both and decided to give TouchWiz a truly fair chance. At first, I had trouble customizing and navigating the UI, but eventually adapted. Over the course of the next two weeks I became accustomed to using it regularly.
About a month later, imilka released his AOSP build of 4.0.3. I was ecstatic to see an AOSP build for the N7000, so I immediately installed it. I was so excited. However, upon first boot, something strange happened. I started to feel uncomfortable. I didn't like the AOSP look and feel of ICS. I actually missed TouchWiz. I thought, "How can this be?" I'm a sworn follower and believer of open-source development. I should have been thrilled to be back on AOSP ground. But TouchWiz had deviously seduced me. It's clean lines and playful, colorful UI had won me over. I eventually got used to AOSP 4.0.3/4.0.4; but I must admit, I'd really like to see the finished ICS build Sammy has in store for the N7000.
So, what I'd like to know is: are there any others out there who used to despise TouchWiz but have grown fond of it? If so, please reply and tell us your story. I'd love to hear it.
Thank you,
Ed (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk

+1
Never liked how TW3 looked but TW4 to me is awesome. I for one cannot understand the hatred for it. For those who hate it should understand that TW is much more than just the looks. And even the looks are to my taste.

I am not going to touch touchwiz until after the ICS update.. give it a fair review until and through then, then decide..

I really don't like TW...looks cheap, not coherent, it's sluggish for me. But hey, people have different tastes. And im sure lots of us here love TW - and frankly speaking, TW is not only the interface but Samsung apps too, which for Note are exceptionally useful.

ummm Touchwi for me is ......umm
OK so i basically am a fan of good looking Icons and somehow hate the look (but not the feel) of the Touchwiz interface....i think the whole not using Square Icons coz apple may sue has rubbed Sammy the wrong way ...perhaps an option could have been given to enable/disable the background behind the icons for ppl lke me...
that is my only pain with touchwiz ,,,,and that is the reason i have adopted to using Touchwiz 4.5 as a full time launcher on my note ,,,it brings more or less everything to the table that touchwiz4 does and some addons such as theming options ....

All ROMs are same

Hi guys,
I know its really hard to create a new ROM and updating it and giving to users. But since the launch of Android 5.0 Lollipop I don't find difference between all major ROMs.
If there is difference, it is of the Bugs. Some ROMs got big bugs and some with small bugs. But rest is same. The looks the feel, everything same (Except MIUI - which is not on Android 5.0).
I have tried almost all of them. Thanks to all the devs. But my question is there any ROM which is unique???
I am getting same functions in all of them with same looks Even they are same in smoothness and working.
The difference is created by Cyanogen ROMs with theme engine, but now all ROMs now include that theme engine. So we are basically using the same ROM everywhere.
At the moment I am using DirtyUnicorn and I don't want to change because all the ROMs are same.
Is there any ROM which is unique??????? Any?????

Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.

gautam.is.sharma said:
Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.
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If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.

See I do agree with you. Most roms are pretty similar when compared to back in the days of A4.2.
What I think is more important is the choice of kernel. Allowing the ability to over/underclock and control voltages automatically and many other things. I think learning how to use a kernel and it's various governers is what will separate phones.

I dont know why so little roms have cm profiles. It's a feature that have much more benefits than any theme engine
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive

zelendel said:
If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.
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See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.

gautam.is.sharma said:
See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.
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Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.

zelendel said:
Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.
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What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.

gautam.is.sharma said:
What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.
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Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.

zelendel said:
Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.
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Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.

gautam.is.sharma said:
Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.
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So let me get this straight. You think coping is ok yet dont like that all the roms "seem" the same to you?
IOS is more Android?
Your right their environment is different. They dont care what users want or say.
Cm is not even worth mentioning anymore really. They are fast becoming just as big a joke as MIUI in the android world. No one with any real thoughts of their own even use their roms anymore.

The problem is that we all think that the developers actually develop something.
The matter of the fact is that they only tinker with what Google gave them.
So I wouldn't hold my breath for a sense like rom that has its own framework.
No one has got time for that. Big things come from big companies. Or maybe from a team of good friends.

A long time a go a bunch of people gave us Theme Engine, Hybrid Mode, Profiles, PIE, Heads-up, Immersive mode and lots of stuff that was new at the time. I really believe that the creative process is, has been and will be strong on XDA - Developers... but i agree with the OP albeit for different reasons.
I think that as technology, products or processes are understood better, being innovative, creative or "disruptive" becomes harder:
1.- We (the consumer) demand a series of features that become standarized which tramples innovation
2.-And there is the thing with the source material P.E. There is so much a thinkerer can do with a hammer a 2x4 and a couple of nails... Same with android.
3.- As a technology matures the innovation rate diminishes. Look at clocks, TV, videogames or smartphones! Every year there are new models, but little game changing technology even when there are hundred of people working on with, fully paid and with the backing of big companies.
Science and technology advance is not linear... I think that we are on a low point on ROM innovation but to me, that only means that soon somebody will come up with something new and great.

Android roms are same?
Yes they are with a little difference in each and every rom ..coz they are built from the same mother source...AOSP...
Google itself builds it factory images from aosp with touch of google changes...
Every oem uses the aosp and modifies it to make sense, touchwiz, zenui etc etc...
Things have certainly changed in past few years when we only had cm pa pac man ..
Now we have 100s of options ..some developers even kind enough to merge our 'wanted' changes in their rom.
So instead of looking at this thing as 'all are same with little changes' , look it as a 'single thing with 100s of options/modifications' to exactly suit your needs.
Yes its confusing sometimes especially when you are a nexus user
Try a different oem if u want a great change on changing custom roms (migrating from touchwiz to vanilla android gives a wow feeling )

Of course they're 100 pretty much exactly the same roms out there. It's really hard to notice any difference among them. It´s all true. Also calling every room-cooker a developer is in my opinion little too much.
It's been already stated that if you want more variation is better to go for oem devices. however probably at the price of never getting fully working aosp/cm rom (unles we're talking about gpe devices). If you want variation go for flagship oems if you want to enjoy aosp go for nexus.

gautam.is.sharma said:
Do you think all ROMs are basically same in Android 5.0??
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"Same" is a relative term like "IS".
A relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short.
So I voted no, I don't think all ROM's are the same but they are definitely very similar.
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~Peace

Agreed, there does not seem to be a lot of innovation in Lollipop ROM features. I have tried Euphoria, TeamUB, crDroid, Slim, RastaPOP, OminROM and XenonHD.
So far they all have the same features. The best one really is XenonHD with its custom long press and double-tap actions on the Nav Bar buttons. This is a great carry over feature from KitKat.
All the other ROMs suck in terms of "new" features.

+1 ..

I guess after 3 4 yrs being on xda, flashing roms with different features, developers amazing us with new and unique features every few months, for me Now it all comes down to the daily use of these features
The PA per app color, pie and omni roms split screen were something that i could use as a daily driver. I really miss PA roms Pie, slimpie somehow is just isnt the same. I miss the tablet mode from PA too.
What i want as a user is a smooth stable rom with some basic tweaks that i dont find on a stock rom and less battery drain. Which i pretty much have with LiquidSmooth.
The speed of innovation has slowed down or rather there arent many more innovative things to do that can be used for daily use anymore i guess. Im not complaining here, just a thought.
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Gravitybox or MiUi CM is not same