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Anyone considering getting the XOOM even though they have the NOOK Color?

I did it. Here's hoping I don't regret it. But for the sheer fact that I can paint using Sketchbook Pro with a stylus, I think I'm gonna dig it.
Still love my NC to death!

DatterBoy said:
I did it. Here's hoping I don't regret it. But for the sheer fact that I can paint using Sketchbook Pro with a stylus, I think I'm gonna dig it.
Still love my NC to death!
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i might but im not sure yet, i am liking the $200 off without contract at BBY right now so i might get one while the deal is still going around

Not a chance.

Can't afford to. Would love a XOOM, though.

I will get one because I am going to develop apps on honeycomb. NC doesn't have all the features. I still love the NC.
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I doubt it, but mainly because I'm not ready to spend that much on a tablet yet.
Also I saw it somewhere and it's true. 7" tablet = 1 handed tablet, 10" tablet = 2 handed tablet. I really like the size of the Nook Color. No doubt a 10" tablet would be nice for a lot of things, but the smaller tablet really works well I think.

Nope. Sure, if i found one new for $200, maybe. But my NC does so much, that i am more than happy with it. I would not change it at all.

I think 7" is perfect size. 10" is too big. If i am going to bring out a 10" tablet, I might as well bring out my laptop and can do 10 times more and faster with it.
Reading on the 7" on the portrait mode perfect.
I just hoping the dev here can get honeycomb to NC soon. I love the new HC interface. Running 2.2 on eMMC and it is rock solid.

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I think 7" is perfect size. 10" is too big. If i am going to bring out a 10" tablet, I might as well bring out my laptop and can do 10 times more and faster with it.
Reading on the 7" on the portrait mode perfect.
I just hoping the dev here can get honeycomb to NC soon. I love the new HC interface. Running 2.2 on eMMC and it is rock solid.
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Just waiting for Google to get off their keister and get honeycomb on AOSP...

It's hard to beat the $250 price of the Nook. I've bought 5 of them and rooted them for family members. Everyone Loves them!
I've been playing with HCv4, but it's not ready for daily use. Can't wait for Honeycomb ADOP. The nook will be nearly perfect balance What's honeycomb is installed.
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I agree about the Nook Color doing everything you want. I made the jump primarily for 1 reason: Autodesk Sketchbook Pro.
If the NC had a decent enough screen for me to use a stylus with, I probably would have never considered it. However, the higher resolution screen an larger work surface were definitrely a plus. $600 was definitely a lot to spend just to get those things, but all things considered,
honestly, what more can the XOOM do (besides camera related stuff) that we already can't do on our $250 Nook 95% of the time?
Feel the love.

Not a chance. The price is just way, way too stiff for me.

how is the xoom $200 off?
I don't see any of this? I'll buy it right now for that price!

Had the xoom came out in late January, I would have been in for one, but I went with the nook a few weeks ago and I am completely happy with it. I don't care for the cameras and I like the smaller size. GPS would be nice but thats about all I miss.

Price point is too high for me. The NC is doing nearly everything I need and is fun to play with. If bluetooth becomes functional (fully) it will be the cat's meow for me I'll certainly upgrade someday, but I'm waiting for the initial Android tablet offerings to settle out some first.

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how is the xoom $200 off?
I don't see any of this? I'll buy it right now for that price!
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I dunno. $600 is still really stiff for me for a tablet. Actually $600 plus a data plan. No thanks.

I seen where people were ordering the Xooms from Motorola directly using a 25% off accessories coupons that was working on the Xooms, lol, but they've fixed that already.
Best buy shows it for $799 in store only.
I'm looking for a 10" tablet really. I initially bought the iPad which is nice except lack of SD card and intrusive use of iTunes made it useless. If I can't pull files off the device while I am out, then it is completely dead to me.
I bought the NC because of the screen and price point but the Xoom has everything that I want. The NC is cool but it can barely run Honeycomb so I would consider it an end of life unit right out of the box.
The Xoom on the other hand comes loaded with honey comb and should be good enough for a few more versions.

no way
deep down everyone wants a xoom lol. but lets face it, for the price of a nook and a few minutes of work you have yourself one solid piece of equipment. i would buy 2 nooks over a xoom any day. great great stuff, and its only the beginning with roms so there is so much to look forward to.

I ordered my Xoom while the Motorola site still had their 25% off glitch. So I got it for $630 free 2 day shipping and a free gel case. Main reason is that most applications act funny on my NC with Honeycomb.... My wife will probably kill me

nope
my tablet needs are totally satisfied with the nook. i'm not a gamer and i prefer to watch movies in the TV so i cannot think of a reason for wanting the xoom.
but to be fair........ before having the nook i didnt knew what were my tablet needs. would the xoom show me new needs? (dont think so at the moment)

Question about Nook vs Galaxy Tab

Alright so here's the deal....
I've had this Nook Color for a long time but i l've realized it's become more of a toy to tinker with instead of a tablet. I was constantly working on it instead of using it as a tablet. So i gave up and posted it on Ebay and was going to sell it but now i've installed the latest phiremod and... i feel like my nook is finally there. Video is actually worth a damn and it's all smooth. What would you guys do? How does the tab compare now? Still a little smoother but not much or.... all opinions welcome. Sorry for punctuation, typing on nook color.
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I think you should keep it. I used it just to experiment when I was runing froyo but now I 'm using the latest CM7 (rc4) and I 'm now really using it as a tablet [browsing,reading,some games and the occasional navigation]. It's the perfect tablet for the money I paid.

The cpu speed is equal or better if you use the overclock kernel, the graphics are equal now, the operating system is better cuz it can run gingerbread where the galaxy is just froyo. All in all for 250 bucks youre way way better off with the nook.. and its getting better everyday with the cm7 nightlies.
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get a asus eee pad transformer. better specs and cheaper price. already have a nook but might get one.

luciferii said:
... the graphics are equal now ...
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Hi,
no, they aren't. The galaxy has a newer, more advanced graphic chipset. It's been reported to play almost any video you throw at it, while the nook has significant limitations.
Regs,
Maciej

jrob9583 said:
alright so heres the deal....
ive had this nook color for a long time but i lve realized it had become more of a toy to tinker with instead of a tablet. I was constantly working on it instead of using it aa a tablet. so i gave up and posted it on ebay and was going to sell it but now ive installed the latest phiremod and... i feel like my nook is finalky there. video is worth a damn and its all smooth. what would you guys do? how does the tab compare now? still a little smoother but not much or.... all opinions welcome. sorry for punctuatiin typing on nook color.
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I say keep it. When CM7 goes final with the Tablet Tweaks and Phiredrop mods it, it's going to be epic. That dude really knows how to put a user interface together.
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The cpu speed is equal or better if you use the overclock kernel, the graphics are equal now, the operating system is better cuz it can run gingerbread where the galaxy is just froyo. All in all for 250 bucks youre way way better off with the nook.. and its getting better everyday with the cm7 nightlies.
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I think the Galaxy can do 720p videos (no need to reencode, can stream from your main system or whatever.)
I also think the bluetooth has a longer range, and it has cameras? It's good stuff, but it's also more expensive.
evilPERSOn2009 said:
get a asus eee pad transformer. better specs and cheaper price. already have a nook but might get one.
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Which one? The one I see is like $1100?
If you have $1100 to spend, that certainly isn't a bad way to spend it if you want the rugged reliability of the SSD storage.
I also like the $1100 IBM/Lenova Thinkpad convertable. It has better stats and bigger storage, but it uses a normal type of harddrive.

chisleu said:
Which one? The one I see is like $1100?
If you have $1100 to spend, that certainly isn't a bad way to spend it if you want the rugged reliability of the SSD storage.
I also like the $1100 IBM/Lenova Thinkpad convertable. It has better stats and bigger storage, but it uses a normal type of harddrive.
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He is talking about this. http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/25/asus-...fers-honeycomb-and-a-convertible-form-factor/
Showing up online for $400 for 16GB and $500 for 32GB.

We all have different requirements but to me the only real competition to a rooted Nook Color right now is the Galaxy Tab. Anything bigger than 8" is in laptop/netbook size territory, which just is not as portable.
And the price of a Galaxy Tab is now in NC territory although you have monthly contract charges for 2 years...
The extra cost involved with the contract, or buying one outright, will keep me happily using an NC. When a 7" tablet with significantly better specs and quality becomes available in the same price range- >$250 then I may consider it.
Right now there is nothing.
But if the size doesn't bother you- well, I have no input really because I haven't seen ANY 10" tablet I would buy.

Thanks for all the replies so far guys. Also sorry for the quality of that post last night. I was using NC and was too tired to really want to fix it. Anyways...
I agree that 7" is just the right size. The IPad is great and all but it's so bulky. That's why it's between this and the Galaxy Tab. I'm still not sure. I really do like this a lot and it's actually usable since installing RC4 version of Phiremod. Just want something where everything is smooth and works perfectly. Before, the argument couldn't be made that the nook color was all that smooth but it's worlds better now. Thanks for all your input guys.

Ok, here is my next question then, since we agree on the 7" size:
What os are you using?
Stock rooted?
Froyo?
Honeycomb?
CyanogenMod7?
I have gone through all of the above to one degree or another, HC for the shortest time due to the issues since source is not out.
Once CM7 was available I have not even read a thread about another.
It may still be in the nightly/RC stage, but CM7 is extremely good as it is and is in very active development to complete making things perfect.
One of the issues we all have with the NC- lack of hard buttons- even has a project at the "feature freeze" point of bug fixes before release- Tablet Tweaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000
Do us both a favor and at least try it before you spend money.
You may decide that you don't need to.
(Note: if you are already running CM7 then ignore my post. )

Having seen what even a stock rooted Android 2.1 Nook Color can do, I wouldn't spend money on another 7" tablet. I might buy a 10" Honeycomb tablet like the XOOM if the prices come down for use at home where the extra screen real-estate outweighs the decreased portability. But the Nook Color would still be the device I take with me when I'm leaving home.

Nburnes said:
He is talking about this. http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/25/asus-...fers-honeycomb-and-a-convertible-form-factor/
Showing up online for $400 for 16GB and $500 for 32GB.
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How is double the cost a cheaper price?

RoboRay said:
How is double the cost a cheaper price?
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It's not double, its $150 more. Comparing it to the 32GB model isn't fair.
You gain a bigger screen (debatable if it's worth it- but for me- typing a little on a 7" screen would be an awkward size, 10" makes it better). And much more power... And bluetooth and all that jazz. With the ability to run 3.0 natively.
Worth $150, up to you.
Take the $300 GTablet. No IPS screen. Is $100 for an IPS screen running 3.0 worth $100? I think so.
Is it worth $150 more than the NC? That's more debatable I think, because you already have a IPS screen. The only thing lacking is 3.0 and the power.
Now....... If the keyboard is included in that $400 price: hands-down, $150 for a tablet you can attach a keyboard to is a freaking no-brainer... The Eee Pad Transformer kills the NC.
But if the keyboard is optional, it's up for debate.
Anytime I've seen the Eee Pad Transformer listed accidentally, it always seems to have the keyboard included. But other times, it seems like it might be an optional thing you buy extra. Weather or not the keyboard is part of that $400 is a huge thing, in my opinion.
If it is, not only does it murder the competition in the tablet market, it'll also murder the competition in the netbook market.
I'm waiting for release (rumored to be April 9) and pricing, and to see if the keyboard is included or not. That Eee Pad Transformer could viably be, a laptop replacement. 16 hours of battery life is awesome. The ability to also use it as a tablet is a huge plus as well.
The ONLY thing- I would want it to be able to do: is boot Windows (so I can use full Office and Windows programs). If I could make it do that: this is an awesome device. Why?
1) Light, long lasting netbook with some power
2) Full Windows apps (stream to 360, etc)
3) Tablet PC for light browsing or on the move
One device to rule them all, one device to bind them......

Pfft
I want a Nook Color with a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon (Adreno 220 GPU).
Downright amazing performance; better even than the Tegra 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2

Paul22000 said:
Pfft
I want a Nook Color with a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon (Adreno 220 GPU).
Downright amazing performance; better even than the Tegra 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2
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Of course but the problem is... The NC doesn't have that hardware configuration, lol.
I'm guessing, since it just released 4.5 months ago, we won't see a NC until this fall again. I love the fact B&N isn't trying to crush the open source community on it so I've got hope the next one will be the same way. They need to keep the cost cheap- I think they realize (especially with the upcoming update) they've nailed the cost/feature ratio. Hopefully they don't think, "It's a tablet now, let's charge more" on the NC2.

I'll say keep it and buy better tablet down the road.
I'm really interested in the Asus Transformer ($400 for 16GB) but I'll keep my Nook Color.

If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/

Nburnes said:
If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/
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But for the same price (actually cheaper)... the Asus 10" gives you IPS, twice the RAM, twice the space...
While if you want 7" this will be the best viable option, could you deal with 3" bigger for better hardware, is the question.

Nburnes said:
If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/
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$483?? When the iPad is $500 (or $300 if you can still find a clearance on the first version)? What kind of deal is that?
Apparently there are no plans for anything to be in the Nook Color's league when it comes to the quality / price / performance metrics. Still waiting...

TexUs said:
It's not double, its $150 more.
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Ok, then how is $150 more a cheaper price?

Acer Iconia Tab will be 7 inches, Honeycomb

I've come across the news that the Acer Iconia Tab A100 will be a 7-inch Honeycomb device, same resolution as the Nook Color. This gives me hope for the prospects of a "better Honeycomb" for our own tablets. Perhaps even if it's not open sourced by then, we might see a higher quality port from the Iconia, more functional than from the SDK?
Sent from my Nook Color!

if it sells for $300 or less and has GPS I will have one. I need it for an all in one car system.

iolinux333 said:
if it sells for $300 or less and has GPS I will have one. I need it for an all in one car system.
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Probably won't be $300 considering that so far the best priced Android tab that is not marketed as an eReader available (sorta) is the Transformer at $399, but if they can get it to $350 and have a GPS and microphone I would get it as my new all around system. I would want the microphone for voice input while driving, not to mention I like to record seminars and stuff.

Reviews on the ten inch model are excellent so far, so I look forward to testing this when it comes out. Ideally if a North American cellular version comes out, at a reasonable price, I could replace my Nook.
Sent from my Nook Color!

everytime a device similar to a nook comes out with honeycomb on it people ask if it will help us... unless it has exactly all the same options as the nook or they release honeycomb for the nook.. it wont help so we'll just have to wait for the source release

cmstlist said:
Reviews on the ten inch model are excellent so far, so I look forward to testing this when it comes out. Ideally if a North American cellular version comes out, at a reasonable price, I could replace my Nook.
Sent from my Nook Color!
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I was just at BB playing with this display model and it was awesome. The price tag on it was $459 or $449...... definitely worth every penny. It was smooth as silk. I don't think I would get one though. I love using my NC fot its primary function; reading books. The 1.2 update just added gravy to it. I hardly use my GB sd card anymore. But, if you are in the market for a new tablet, I find the acer more responsive and i feel you get the best bang for your buck. More so than the Xoom.

I must be the only person that doesn't really like Honeycomb on a 7 inch screen.

poofyhairguy said:
I must be the only person that doesn't really like Honeycomb on a 7 inch screen.
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I don't like how it looks on a Nook Color when adapted from the SDK. But I would imagine that if Acer is releasing this on a finished product, they're going to have figured out how to adapt it to be as good as possible. Certainly with Google working on "Ice Cream Sandwich" 3.1 to unite the phone and tablet streams, it makes sense that there should be some middle-ground way of perfecting it for the 7" form factor.

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I must be the only person that doesn't really like Honeycomb on a 7 inch screen.
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I've had no problems running Honeycomb on the NC, in fact, I love it. I think the improvements made to the UI make sense on anything bigger than a phone screen (3 to 4 inches), it doesn't necessarily need to be 10 inches.
Whenever the 3.0 source is released through AOSP and we have a fully realized build of Honeycomb for the NC, I think it is going to really impress a lot of people. Especially looking at the prices for other Honeycomb devices.

To nook or not to nook?

So I'm in the market for a new toy to tinker with and I'm wondering if I should continue to look at the nook color as an option. I just bought a HP touchpad that I'm planning on returning simply cause I'm used to working with android and CM and don't want to fragment myself further.
Is the nook a worthy investment; do I have to worry about the community walking away from it like I see they are beginning to do with the evolution I own, or should I wait for some of the other 7-9" android offerings in the roster? Any input is appreciated.
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OGPI said:
So I'm in the market for a new toy to tinker with and I'm wondering if I should continue to look at the nook color as an option. I just bought a HP touchpad that I'm planning on returning simply cause I'm used to working with android and CM and don't want to fragment myself further.
Is the nook a worthy investment; do I have to worry about the community walking away from it like I see they are beginning to do with the evolution I own, or should I wait for some of the other 7-9" android offerings in the roster? Any input is appreciated.
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I love my nook, but I think you may like the HTC Express better, (the flyer\evo view)
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I like my NookColor a lot.
I have not used a Android tablet like Xoom or Acer or Asus to compare.
But it seems to work well.
ManualNooter = Works Very nicely, and also lets you have the NookColor stock OS look.
CM7 Works a good bit snappier imho than ManualNootered NC.
Mine is ManualNooter'ed as my wife reads now and then and does not like the CM7 interface.
I do a lot of reading and posting on ClubNook.com forums on mine, for the most part it does well. (I have it O/C also)

The Nook has a great screen, low price and it's the perfect size and weight. You can hold the Nook for long times without your hand becoming fatigued. I've used a few other tablets and I can honestly say I prefer the Nook. The Nook also has an active community with some great talent, I personally believe we'll see an ICS port and continued support for some time.

One of the best features of the Nook is that it boots from the sd card first. This device is, to my knowledge, the only android device to have this feature. Almost makes it unbrickable. But as has already been said, the dev community for the nook is great and cyanogen, with all the recent improvements, puts the nook on par with many of the higher end devices on the market. While there are a number of very good android tablets on the market, the nook, for the money, is one of the best values out there.
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It cannot be beat for $200 (re-certified). Everyone who I have shown this thing to wants one, including a coworker who has a Xoom tablet already (not to replace it, but to have in addition to because of size).
My Mom uses hers for:
Angry Birds and Solitaire
Epub format books (Moon Reader +)
Grocery list (Grocery King)
Viewing pictures in Gallery
Email
Web browsing
Pandora Radio
Netflix
Alternately, my Wife has a 1G iPad and would not trade it for any Android tablet.

If you genuinely want to tinker with it, then you want a nook. It's virtually impossible to brick, and if you did somehow manage to brick it you'd only be out $200/$250.
If you just want a cool toy -- you probably still want a nook. It has a great screen, and is speedy enough for just about anything you throw at it. Unless you get a really great deal on something with a much better processor, the nook is the best bang for the buck.
If you want it to show off -- it depends on who you're showing it off to. Execs probably won't be impressed by anything unless it looks like an iPad, techy people will think it's awesome, and average people will be intimidated by the idea of hacking an ebook to be a tablet.

Hi,
I have both a NC and a Asus Transformer (and an iPad), and am an App developer.
My 2 cents is that the Nook Color is a great ebook reader, but a bit limited as a tablet. Honeycomb is a reasonable first cut at a tablet interface where has the NC's 2.2 or CM7 both feel like they were meant for a phone. So if I wanted the tablet experience I would spend the extra money and get a true Android table running Honeycomb.
Jerry

http://cgi.ebay.com/Barnes-Noble-NO...US_Tablets&hash=item2eb6f2e551#ht_2550wt_1396
$180 + free shipping. Although I ordered mine from there and a pixel was broken but they are replacing it.

My $0.02:
For a guy who love to tinker but doesn't want to spend a lot of cash-o-la, the NC is awesome. Even if I had unlimited funds, I would still get a 7" tablet. 10" (like the girlfriend's Viewsonic Gtablet) is too big, and the speed difference between our processor and a tegra for what I do (PDFs, surfing, etc) doesn't really come into play (I am overclocked at 1.2 GHz, however). If you want to play HD vid (on a non HD screen?), or want HDMI out or a full sized usb port, get something else).
This is the best community I've found on XDA, and the developers here are nothing short of amazing.
As mentioned earlier, you can get a NC for $180 on ebay. It's tough to beat. Then again, I have a desktop for CFD, a laptop for portable power, and a NookColor for accessing stuff on the fly. I couldn't justify spending $500+ (give or take) on a Android tablet when I could buy a laptop that could do a lot more and still get a NC for the same price.

Well the issue isn't money although I am a very frugal/ value conscious individual. Like I said I have a HP touchpad but I plan on returning it cause of the size; which I feel instead very portaboe, and due to me being so deep into android that I'm not extremely interested in webos. I got a great deal on the touchpad but I like to get the most enjoyment out of my time and from the capabilities of the NC I've seen on YouTube it is a tempting device regardless of price. My only fear is that it will soon be a forgotten device like I see happening to my HTC evo. Thanks for all your input.
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How does a $250 Asus Transformer compare to the Nook Tablet?

I'm a very happy owner of a rooted NC and have been following the progress of the Nook Tablet, planning to get one when the cm team puts out a rom for it.
Today I see that the Asus Transformer will be $250 at Best Buy for Black Friday.
I haven't been following the Transformer so I'm not very familiar with it. A quick look at the cm and xda forums doesn't seem to show any roms for this device so that is a concern.
Is this tablet a better buy than the Nook Tablet for the same price? Note I'm talking about a NT with cm on it, not a base device.
Would it be worth the hassle of dealing with Black Friday at Best Buy?

@ $250 get the Transformer if you can, you get HDMI out, Camera and GPS, just to name a few of the advantages.

The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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gadzooks64 said:
The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!

docfreed said:
Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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I realize I wouldn't be rooting the transformer. Just wondering how the two devices would compare. Thanks for all the input so far.
Would the transformer be in line for an ICS upgrade?
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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What? There is root/recovery/ROMs out for the device.

Transformer is lightning fast compared to the Nook. I have both including the dock and I have stopped using my Nook except for reading. Just a way better experience.

The TF (Tegra 2) is about on par with the Nook Tablet (OMAP 4430) for general computing, but is much worse than the NT for video playback.
The TF has HDMI out, but has no USB port. To get USB, you need to buy the dock, which I understand is $100. The dock does add a keyboard along with an extended battery, but it also adds weight. Effectively, with the dock, the TF will be an underpowered $350 netbook with detachable screen. The hybrid setup tends to be a love-hate situation. I myself prefer use of a BT keyboard that can be used for any tablet.
The TF has an IPS screen, but build quality is somewhat iffy, with speakers going out and various other ailments. Per freq of problem reports in the various Tegra 2 tabs' forums, it's about on par with the Acer Iconia, and less reliable than the Xoom or the Samsung GT.
As of this moment, the latest TF B70 stepping is still unrootable, ever since Asus changed its SBK (secure boot key). I wouldn't count on rooting the TF, since the issue has been around since August.
The TF will likely get official ICS upgrade some time early 2012.
IMO, it depends on your use. If you want an integrated keyboard, then the TF ($350 w/ keyboard) is better. It also has a larger screen, which is better for certain uses and certain people, eg older users.
I don't think it's a "better-worse" decision, since the TF and NT are different enough with little overlap. BTW, the TF has been periodically on sale at $300 for a while, so basically you'll be doing the fight-the-stampede deal for $50.

$250 is a pretty good price. If I wasn't going to get the tf prime I would pick one up.
You might be able to get it on cyber Monday online and not have to deal with the crazy people at black Friday sales.

docfreed said:
Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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I had no intentions of rooting the Transformer - it is great without it.
ASUS has already announced that they would be upgrading the Transformers to Ice Cream Sandwich.
I haven't had any issues with video but I don't intend to stream video to my TV; I have a Roku, a Sony Media Player and an LG Bluray all with wifi so I can stream from those.
IMO I think the ASUS Transformer is one of the best tablets out there and worth the $250 or $300 it costs.
Edit: ASUS has really impressed me with their willingness to issue OS updates for this device. I don't think any phones or other tablets have gotten as much love from the manufacturer.

Will they keep up with the updates now that the prime is coming out?

That is a great price. I have the NC and the TF. The TF is a full tablet running Honeycomb. Even without rooting it is a great experience. Much better than the CM7.1 on the NC. FWIW, Asus has provided great support on the TF. They just updated the firmware on Thursday. Some post have said that ICS is coming to the TF in January.

If comparing both as tablets then; the Transformer wins because it is usable as a HC tablet out-of-the-box with official G Market support plus the pending upgrade to ICS.
The NT will require aftermarket hacking and OSes to run as a tablet.
It will of course enjoy great developer support (here & elsewhere) assuming the 'SD card-boots-first' holds true to make it easier. I doubt if we see anything beyond Gingerbread on the NT.
However, dealing with the lines of people on frigid mornings outside BB is not worth it (IMO). It seems every year the lines keep getting longer and longer with people coming in at 9:00 p.m. the previous night. Just not worth it anymore.
I would rather get the NT for $250 and mess with it.
On a side note: I am excited about the NT since it comes with a dual-core, more ram and storage and a mic. I have 3 year extended coverage with ADH handling from ST. Hope my NC breaks down in the next 12 months; might get the NT as replacement....he he.

I thought about it, and after finding out the closest best buy is almost 2 hours away, I just said nah.
Plus, I'm dying to see if I can get the NT as a replacement in case something "terrible" were to happen to my NC lol.