Alright so here's the deal....
I've had this Nook Color for a long time but i l've realized it's become more of a toy to tinker with instead of a tablet. I was constantly working on it instead of using it as a tablet. So i gave up and posted it on Ebay and was going to sell it but now i've installed the latest phiremod and... i feel like my nook is finally there. Video is actually worth a damn and it's all smooth. What would you guys do? How does the tab compare now? Still a little smoother but not much or.... all opinions welcome. Sorry for punctuation, typing on nook color.
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I think you should keep it. I used it just to experiment when I was runing froyo but now I 'm using the latest CM7 (rc4) and I 'm now really using it as a tablet [browsing,reading,some games and the occasional navigation]. It's the perfect tablet for the money I paid.
The cpu speed is equal or better if you use the overclock kernel, the graphics are equal now, the operating system is better cuz it can run gingerbread where the galaxy is just froyo. All in all for 250 bucks youre way way better off with the nook.. and its getting better everyday with the cm7 nightlies.
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get a asus eee pad transformer. better specs and cheaper price. already have a nook but might get one.
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... the graphics are equal now ...
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Hi,
no, they aren't. The galaxy has a newer, more advanced graphic chipset. It's been reported to play almost any video you throw at it, while the nook has significant limitations.
Regs,
Maciej
jrob9583 said:
alright so heres the deal....
ive had this nook color for a long time but i lve realized it had become more of a toy to tinker with instead of a tablet. I was constantly working on it instead of using it aa a tablet. so i gave up and posted it on ebay and was going to sell it but now ive installed the latest phiremod and... i feel like my nook is finalky there. video is worth a damn and its all smooth. what would you guys do? how does the tab compare now? still a little smoother but not much or.... all opinions welcome. sorry for punctuatiin typing on nook color.
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I say keep it. When CM7 goes final with the Tablet Tweaks and Phiredrop mods it, it's going to be epic. That dude really knows how to put a user interface together.
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The cpu speed is equal or better if you use the overclock kernel, the graphics are equal now, the operating system is better cuz it can run gingerbread where the galaxy is just froyo. All in all for 250 bucks youre way way better off with the nook.. and its getting better everyday with the cm7 nightlies.
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I think the Galaxy can do 720p videos (no need to reencode, can stream from your main system or whatever.)
I also think the bluetooth has a longer range, and it has cameras? It's good stuff, but it's also more expensive.
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get a asus eee pad transformer. better specs and cheaper price. already have a nook but might get one.
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Which one? The one I see is like $1100?
If you have $1100 to spend, that certainly isn't a bad way to spend it if you want the rugged reliability of the SSD storage.
I also like the $1100 IBM/Lenova Thinkpad convertable. It has better stats and bigger storage, but it uses a normal type of harddrive.
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Which one? The one I see is like $1100?
If you have $1100 to spend, that certainly isn't a bad way to spend it if you want the rugged reliability of the SSD storage.
I also like the $1100 IBM/Lenova Thinkpad convertable. It has better stats and bigger storage, but it uses a normal type of harddrive.
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He is talking about this. http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/25/asus-...fers-honeycomb-and-a-convertible-form-factor/
Showing up online for $400 for 16GB and $500 for 32GB.
We all have different requirements but to me the only real competition to a rooted Nook Color right now is the Galaxy Tab. Anything bigger than 8" is in laptop/netbook size territory, which just is not as portable.
And the price of a Galaxy Tab is now in NC territory although you have monthly contract charges for 2 years...
The extra cost involved with the contract, or buying one outright, will keep me happily using an NC. When a 7" tablet with significantly better specs and quality becomes available in the same price range- >$250 then I may consider it.
Right now there is nothing.
But if the size doesn't bother you- well, I have no input really because I haven't seen ANY 10" tablet I would buy.
Thanks for all the replies so far guys. Also sorry for the quality of that post last night. I was using NC and was too tired to really want to fix it. Anyways...
I agree that 7" is just the right size. The IPad is great and all but it's so bulky. That's why it's between this and the Galaxy Tab. I'm still not sure. I really do like this a lot and it's actually usable since installing RC4 version of Phiremod. Just want something where everything is smooth and works perfectly. Before, the argument couldn't be made that the nook color was all that smooth but it's worlds better now. Thanks for all your input guys.
Ok, here is my next question then, since we agree on the 7" size:
What os are you using?
Stock rooted?
Froyo?
Honeycomb?
CyanogenMod7?
I have gone through all of the above to one degree or another, HC for the shortest time due to the issues since source is not out.
Once CM7 was available I have not even read a thread about another.
It may still be in the nightly/RC stage, but CM7 is extremely good as it is and is in very active development to complete making things perfect.
One of the issues we all have with the NC- lack of hard buttons- even has a project at the "feature freeze" point of bug fixes before release- Tablet Tweaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000
Do us both a favor and at least try it before you spend money.
You may decide that you don't need to.
(Note: if you are already running CM7 then ignore my post. )
Having seen what even a stock rooted Android 2.1 Nook Color can do, I wouldn't spend money on another 7" tablet. I might buy a 10" Honeycomb tablet like the XOOM if the prices come down for use at home where the extra screen real-estate outweighs the decreased portability. But the Nook Color would still be the device I take with me when I'm leaving home.
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He is talking about this. http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/25/asus-...fers-honeycomb-and-a-convertible-form-factor/
Showing up online for $400 for 16GB and $500 for 32GB.
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How is double the cost a cheaper price?
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How is double the cost a cheaper price?
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It's not double, its $150 more. Comparing it to the 32GB model isn't fair.
You gain a bigger screen (debatable if it's worth it- but for me- typing a little on a 7" screen would be an awkward size, 10" makes it better). And much more power... And bluetooth and all that jazz. With the ability to run 3.0 natively.
Worth $150, up to you.
Take the $300 GTablet. No IPS screen. Is $100 for an IPS screen running 3.0 worth $100? I think so.
Is it worth $150 more than the NC? That's more debatable I think, because you already have a IPS screen. The only thing lacking is 3.0 and the power.
Now....... If the keyboard is included in that $400 price: hands-down, $150 for a tablet you can attach a keyboard to is a freaking no-brainer... The Eee Pad Transformer kills the NC.
But if the keyboard is optional, it's up for debate.
Anytime I've seen the Eee Pad Transformer listed accidentally, it always seems to have the keyboard included. But other times, it seems like it might be an optional thing you buy extra. Weather or not the keyboard is part of that $400 is a huge thing, in my opinion.
If it is, not only does it murder the competition in the tablet market, it'll also murder the competition in the netbook market.
I'm waiting for release (rumored to be April 9) and pricing, and to see if the keyboard is included or not. That Eee Pad Transformer could viably be, a laptop replacement. 16 hours of battery life is awesome. The ability to also use it as a tablet is a huge plus as well.
The ONLY thing- I would want it to be able to do: is boot Windows (so I can use full Office and Windows programs). If I could make it do that: this is an awesome device. Why?
1) Light, long lasting netbook with some power
2) Full Windows apps (stream to 360, etc)
3) Tablet PC for light browsing or on the move
One device to rule them all, one device to bind them......
Pfft
I want a Nook Color with a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon (Adreno 220 GPU).
Downright amazing performance; better even than the Tegra 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2
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I want a Nook Color with a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon (Adreno 220 GPU).
Downright amazing performance; better even than the Tegra 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2
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Of course but the problem is... The NC doesn't have that hardware configuration, lol.
I'm guessing, since it just released 4.5 months ago, we won't see a NC until this fall again. I love the fact B&N isn't trying to crush the open source community on it so I've got hope the next one will be the same way. They need to keep the cost cheap- I think they realize (especially with the upcoming update) they've nailed the cost/feature ratio. Hopefully they don't think, "It's a tablet now, let's charge more" on the NC2.
I'll say keep it and buy better tablet down the road.
I'm really interested in the Asus Transformer ($400 for 16GB) but I'll keep my Nook Color.
If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/
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If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/
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But for the same price (actually cheaper)... the Asus 10" gives you IPS, twice the RAM, twice the space...
While if you want 7" this will be the best viable option, could you deal with 3" bigger for better hardware, is the question.
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If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/
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$483?? When the iPad is $500 (or $300 if you can still find a clearance on the first version)? What kind of deal is that?
Apparently there are no plans for anything to be in the Nook Color's league when it comes to the quality / price / performance metrics. Still waiting...
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It's not double, its $150 more.
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Ok, then how is $150 more a cheaper price?
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Has anyone spent a good amount of time with both a rooted Nook Color and the Galaxy Tab who can write some impressions on how they compare in regular use? The $350 difference is dictating that I go Nook Color, but it's always fun to hear comparisons before buying...
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I have the NC, Archos 70, and VS tablet right now, and the color is by far the best screen.
The VS device lasted all of an hour before I decided that I am returning it tomorrow, it is that bad even with custom roms. The screen is bad, the unit is heavy, and I decided the 7 inch size is my favorite.
The Archos running froyo is very buggy, only has 256mb of ram, and has wifi issues at this point and feels like I could break it by looking at it too hard.
The color is the best display, has plenty of ram, and feels very solid. We just need a good rom and it should fly!
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From the "should I get a nook color " thread.
By Bertojg. I couldn't link to the thread from my phone
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From the "should I get a nook color " thread.
By Bertojg. I couldn't link to the thread from my phone
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I was wondering more in comparison to the Samsung Galaxy Tab, but that's cool too.
Oh scrap. I can't read.
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Two of my coworkers got a Tab. It is definitely better than the Nook Color - it's running Android 2.2 out of the box, the screen is as excellent as the Nook's, and it's got 3G, gps, bluetooth, and a camera (if those things are important to you).
It's also snappier as it has a slightly faster chip. It is thicker than the Nook Color though.
The biggest difference is that you can pretty much buy 2 Nook Colors for 1 Tab.
If you want the full Android 2.2 experience and the $300+ price difference is not a factor, then yeah get a Tab.
i only tested a display and i was blown away by the experience. all the goodness of the nook (great screen,sturdy hardware, 512MB of ram) with the performance of the archos 70 (much snappier than the nook-but not as fast as the galaxy).
i'm very much considering returning both the nook and archos 70 and just getting the galaxy tab. i only need one (other) tablet anyways.
The point is, how is the potential of the NC with a custom ROM?
With a fine software many think that the NC will perform almost as good as the Tab...
Time will tell.
I think it will.... Roms do make a HUGE difference with these type of devices. Let's hope someone get one out soon.
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The point is, how is the potential of the NC with a custom ROM?
With a fine software many think that the NC will perform almost as good as the Tab...
Time will tell.
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I wasn't too impressed with the Galaxy Tab when compared to the Nook Color. I don't need 3G, bluetooth or a camera because my phone has all of that. I've played with the Galaxy Tab in a store here in Finland and it's quite thick as well.
The Nook Color is thinner and than my iPad but with the same resolution screen and more dots per inch.
The cost is another issue. The Galaxy Tab is over 800euro over here yet the Nook Color came to under 300 euro including 23% local import tax and shipping service cost. I would have bought the Galaxy Tab if the price wasn't so ridiculous.
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The cost is another issue. The Galaxy Tab is over 800euro over here yet the Nook Color came to under 300 euro including 23% local import tax and shipping service cost. I would have bought the Galaxy Tab if the price wasn't so ridiculous.
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800 euro... that's 1050 USD. Here you pick up the Galaxy at the store for 600 USD, some 450 Euro.
Gotta love the CHEAP US of A!
I think we need to be a bit honest with ourselves here. Let us cut to the chase, the Galaxy Tab is a better device than the NC. It is more capable out of the box because of the hardware it carries, and as good as the Nook Color is, lack of hardware features can never be made up by the best ROM in the world.
This does not mean the Nook Color is a bad device. It is a great device, in its price range.
To me, the Nook is not a competitor to the Galaxy Tab. The Tab is a BMW. The Nook Color is a sturdy Ford, both good - but two different devices that do not compete with each other.
A buyer interested in a Galaxy Tab will not consider a Nook Color (as a Android tablet) just like a Nook Color buyer will not consider a Galaxy Tab. The price differential is just too big.
There is much to like about both devices, but comparing them, IMO, is apples to oranges - and a mismatch from the get-go.
Keep in mind who makes the Tab
Like so many others I heard about the Samsung Behold 2 and how those customers got screwed but got a Samsung Vibrant anyway. And like so many others I found out the GPS is borked. And the battery life is poor. At least I didn't experience the lag problem, but I returned it.
And watched for the not-really-promised GPS fix. Which finally came and...didn't work. I really liked the screen and wanted to like the phone, but if the phone can't do what was advertised up front, forget it.
And Samsung on Android 2.3 on their S9000 series of phones (e.g. Vibrant)? Their statement sounded like "Maybe someday if we feel like it and there is a strong tailwind we might think about it but no promises". Maybe the phone is a dead end, maybe it isn't, but based on Samsung's performance so far, I wouldn't count on it. It doesn't have 2.2 yet. My phone (MT4G) came with it, my wife's (DX) got an OTA.
To me this says the Samsung Tab is absolutely out. You'd have to practically give me one to get me to take it. Same for the Nexus S.
The Nook, right now, is not fully tabletized, but that's a matter of software. It has a fabulous screen and seems reasonable in many ways. It is far cheaper than any of its competition (as a tablet). I find it stylish and I could actually imagine reading books on it (I know, what am I thinking?). And my wife is irate that I'm considering it so soon after she got me an Air.
So, is there a Plex controller that is worthwhile for Android tablets? That'd go a LONG way toward getting approval from the missus.
I agree. Samsung has never supported their devices well, and they still insist on using proprietary cables and connectors on everything. On top of that, they went ahead and did everything I dislike about apple by releasing the galaxy tab at that price. They are not even trying to compete with the Ipad, they are just assuming that everyone who wants an android tablet will shell out the big bucks to buy it, the same way apple fans will shell out the big bucks to buy anything made by apple. I'm sure it's a good device, it's gotten great reviews - I just don't like the way they went about it.
My wife told me after I got the NC that she was going to get me a Tab for Christmas. I'm glad I got the NC, I would have had to return the Tab! Too many features in the Tab that I just won't use. The only thing it has that I wish the NC had, is the slightly faster processor (800MHz vs 1GHz.)
Besides the hardware differences, it's a Samsung. They aren't known for providing updates in a timely manner and support on their devices. Sure, we don't know about the NC's status in that respect, but I also don't really care given it's price point. Whatever the development community does is fine by me!
But as was already said, you aren't comparing apples to oranges, you're comparing apples to a fruit basket. It's got more, it's different, and it's more money. I'm fine with apples.
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I agree. Samsung has never supported their devices well, and they still insist on using proprietary cables and connectors on everything. On top of that, they went ahead and did everything I dislike about apple by releasing the galaxy tab at that price. They are not even trying to compete with the Ipad, they are just assuming that everyone who wants an android tablet will shell out the big bucks to buy it, the same way apple fans will shell out the big bucks to buy anything made by apple. I'm sure it's a good device, it's gotten great reviews - I just don't like the way they went about it.
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While we're talking about Samsung's business tactics that leave a sour taste in your mouth, two things come to mind:
- apparently they turned down Google's proposal for them to name the eventual Nexus S the Nexus 2 because "we're not #2 in anything." Wow. Surely someone is making a year-end list of "biggest douchebag quotes of the year" right about now - please note this one.
- I'd sacrifice my first-born if the reason for the delay until "after the holidays" for the wifi-only Tab was because of production delays. Either the carriers threw money at them to delay it, or it's just more profitable for them to sell 3g models, so they delayed it (or both). The irony is, I'd more strongly consider a Tab if a $450 wifi model was available now.
It would be closer if the Nook Color had Bluetooth, that way you could use a Bluetooth GPS, headsets, etc...
...but someone posted in another topic that Bluetooth might be there just "hidden", maybe in a custom ROM ?
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I wasn't too impressed with the Galaxy Tab when compared to the Nook Color. I don't need 3G, bluetooth or a camera because my phone has all of that. I've played with the Galaxy Tab in a store here in Finland and it's quite thick as well.
The Nook Color is thinner and than my iPad but with the same resolution screen and more dots per inch.
The cost is another issue. The Galaxy Tab is over 800euro over here yet the Nook Color came to under 300 euro including 23% local import tax and shipping service cost. I would have bought the Galaxy Tab if the price wasn't so ridiculous.
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Hi discourse, I see you live in Finland (Europe), and as I am thinking of getting a Nook Color myself, could you tell me from which online store did you buy yours?
Thank you..!
About the Galaxy Tab, I've played with it for about an hour. My opinion is that it is laggy and definitely doesn't worth the ~600 euros that is its price here in Greece.
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It would be closer if the Nook Color had Bluetooth, that way you could use a Bluetooth GPS, headsets, etc...
...but someone posted in another topic that Bluetooth might be there just "hidden", maybe in a custom ROM ?
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The processor chipset (?) is supposed to include bluetooth. It's assumed it wasn't activated due to licensing costs for bluetooth, so it's there, just not used and may be "unlocked" by a rom.
I've both. NC cannot compare to the Galaxy Tab in user experience.
You just get a much better polished experience with the tab on everything. Tab's gpu is almost 10x faster in polygon count. CPU is faster (even with SetCPU set at performance on NC). Everything just works on the Tab.
That said, I am considering returning my Tab because of all the new tablets coming out in a few months, and the price. NC could hold me over for a few months.
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Has anyone spent a good amount of time with both a rooted Nook Color and the Galaxy Tab who can write some impressions on how they compare in regular use? The $350 difference is dictating that I go Nook Color, but it's always fun to hear comparisons before buying...
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I've both. NC cannot compare to the Galaxy Tab in user experience.
You just get a much better polished experience with the tab on everything. Tab's gpu is almost 10x faster in polygon count. CPU is faster (even with SetCPU set at performance on NC). Everything just works on the Tab.
That said, I am considering returning my Tab because of all the new tablets coming out in a few months, and the price. NC could hold me over for a few months.
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Do you know if the hardware GPU is better than the NC or is just based on current software of Tab vs NC? I've done a lot of research into the nook color, but I admit, graphics wise it's still a bit of a mystery to me.
Now with CES behind us but with thoughts of all those new tablets still fresh in our heads, anyone still think a rooted Nookcolor will be able to hold it's own against the tide that's coming.
Anyone with a rooted Nookcolor-will you still buy a tablet this year and if so which one, or will the Nookcolor still do.
I think the price point of the Nookcolor is it's greatest strength now.
I agree for $250, the NC can't be beat. Honeycomb on NC
I do plan on getting a new tab, maybe one of 10.1" running Honeycomb but don't know which one yet.
My opinion is...
The Nook is a book reading device first. Its a make shift tablet second.
It is not really fair to compare it to tablets that are designed to be tablets.
With that said, the newest thing is always around the corner. What is NOT around the corner is the hundreds more dollars for me to spend that these new devices cost as compared to the Nook.
Once the Nook gets a stable and functional Froyo, it will put it a very good advantage for at least the next year with app support.
It will take some time for Tegra2 to build up steam and drop in price. Meanwhile you have all of these older devices/tablets/cellphones still running older systems.
Just because 3.0 is coming up does not mean that all support will stop for the older devices. Developers would be foolish to stop supporting the older builds.
So, the answer for me is YES, the Nook is a great buy at this moment in time.
I have to agree with the price point being the NC's largest draw and strength. For $250 you can't get a better piece of hardware. Once we can get honeycomb (and by we I mean you people smarter than myself) on the NC we'll be flying high.
From what I have read, which may be BS, honeycomb will require dual processors to function properly, so I doubt nook color can handle it.
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There's always something "better" available "real soon now". I'd have to check, but none of the CES announcements included either a price for the device or a release date. Heck, the Adam took almost a year from CES to release, and even then it had a very limited release and still hasn't shipped. But you can go over to B&N and pick up a NC right now.
There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785
Oh, and if you don't know who Dan Morrill is...
http://www.google.com/profiles/morrildl
I just picked up a Nook Color for $180 from CL...but even at full price I didn't see anything that blew me away from CES. Sure the newer tablets will have better CPUs etc. but I doubt they will have the Screen quality of the NC at this price-point. For me what sold me on the NC is the ability to Root it, make it a very functional tablet (even if so claim its a book reader first, I think it makes an amazing tablet). I am one of the few that do not need a webcam etc. And let's not forget the amazing Screen quality!
CES Shows some really awesome looking devices but the market at the moment is pricing everything retardedly high. For the moment the $250 NC is the best bang for the buck for a simple Tablet. And I do fully expect to see a Honeycomb port in due time.
Untill the market gets saturated with actually good devices around the $300 price point and not the $499 point, (Especially the 3G only devices?! Not everyone wants or needs 3G!).
From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet. I would expect with the fact that Android is open, costs for these devices would be driven down significantly. However, the new crop of Android tablets are up there with Win OS tablets (almost), yet don't have a full featured OS.
I agree with spikey911 that this is an ereader first, Android tablet second. To me, having it run android apps is a benefit, not the primary reason I got it.
I would love a dual core or a Tegra 2 tablet. Would I pay more than $300 for one? Absolutely not. By the time that comes down in price, the next crop of the "greatest" comes out.
The only way I would upgrade to different tablet is if/when the Lenovo LePad/U1 comes down in price. Then I could chuck the NC and my Core 2 duo netbook.
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The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet.
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That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging? I picked the nook color because the ability to root and the build quality was outstanding. Closest to that of the iPad. With the new crop of devices coming they are not bringing anything new, dual core yay but other than that what else. For those with nooks is 4-500 dollars worth a larger screen? What can you do on those that you cant do on the nook color? Also nook is still on 2.1 so with froyo there should be a slight speed increase.
Dont think anything from CES was mind blowing and would make me considering giving up my nook.
Outside of Android, Gigabyte just announced a reasonably nice Win7 Tablet with a N550 (duel core) and even a 320G HD supposidly aimed at the sub $300 market. If so with a reasonable capacitive screen it would be one of the first reasonable Win7 Tablets. For a device that has netbook specs it may be the first to finally get it that they need to be priced reasonable for the reasonable specs. Touchscreen replacement for a keyboard should not cost $200 more.
I'm still waiting patiently for the NC with 2G/3G... Anyone know when it will be out?
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That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging?
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I think that we are seeing the NC at razor thin markup (almost cost) due to the "razor/razor blades" marketing model that ebooks use. B&N expect to make all their money on book sales, not the hardware. Until we have a Tegra2 KindleIV to compare to, I doubt we'll know for sure
I'm not looking for my Nook to replace my laptop. The thing that got me is the performance/price and the big thing: not having a data plan. I don't understand who has the money to buy a $500 device and then pay $25-50/month for 24 months. I can buy a really nice laptop for $1100-1700.
Homer
For me the NC is a tablet first & an ereader second! At least that's the way I use it. IMO it has enough going on hardware wise that the only time that it is an ereader first, is that period of time between opening the box & rooting it! Just because it doesn't have a few hard keys, camera or GPS & USB host doesn't mean it is not a viable tablet. Actually, a rooted NC has more tablet functions than it does ereader functions. I am very happy with the NC without these features, as that kept the price where I could afford it. With it competing in the ereader market, B&N had to price it accordingly. If it had been competing as a tablet, it could have demanded a much higher price. I was not looking for a laptop replacement, just a more portable connected device that doesn't require a data contract.
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Best tablet for under $300. Once Froyo is successfully ported and BT able kernel it will be even better. There is no way you will find another 7" tablet with capacitance screen, 1024x600 res, 512MB RAM, 8GB Internal Storage for anywhere near this price. B&N is selling them at a low price to get people to buy their ebooks.
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911jason said:
There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785
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Glad it was BS.
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Glad it was BS.
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I am not convinced that not having some pretty strong minimum hardware specs is a good thing. Microsoft was pretty smart by setting the bar high on their Win Phone 7 units. I think the Android community would benefit from having some specs that ensure that a tablet or phone will perform fast and smooth. You know that Apple will increase their specs for the next iPad and it will suck if honeycomb runs poorly on previous gen tablets.
I just want to buy one just to root it and install froyo and gapps.
I already have a kindle for my ereader.
So is it a good tab for 250?
It is an awesome tablet, especially with the 1.1Ghz Kernel installed. Now, i will be realistic, and say that the current froyo build that is out there is nothing more than a test - i dont see people using it as a daily driver on it. But, it is still being worked on, as is a ginerbread build, so who knows where it will all be in a month's time.
Basically, this has the hardware (sans cellular connection, and at the moment, bluetooth) of the Droid X, with a better screen, for half the retail cost. If that idea appeals to you, then you will love this tab.
sounds good, im going to try to find one used!
also can i just root and keep eclair for a whileb ut use a different launcher?
Agree with all the last post said.
In addition, I would say at the moment, it is the best tablet in its price range.
comdei said:
sounds good, im going to try to find one used!
also can i just root and keep eclair for a whileb ut use a different launcher?
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A good starting place is nookdevs nookcolor portal - you can do all kinds of androidy things on this
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sounds good, im going to try to find one used!
also can i just root and keep eclair for a whileb ut use a different launcher?
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Yes you can.. its what i do! The froyo build is interesting to play, but not quite all there yet (though, it has basically be started from scratch, so it has really come a long way). I use the eclair build as my daily, and with the 1.1Ghz kernel, the device just flys (and puts my HTC incredible to shame, on 2.2). I use Zeam, but Launcher Pro and ADW both work as well.
With the quality of the nooks screen and the fact that these are almost impossible to brick make the nook well worth the money.......imho for what it is worth
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Made a video of some of it's capabilitiies. Is it worth it?
Hell yeah it is.
Nook Color Rooted Showcase
NookColor - 250 dollars
Case - 30 dollars
SD Card - 10 dollars
Rooting - Free
Having a very similar tablet to the Galaxy minus 350 USD - I was going to say PRICELESS but it is in effect 350 USD
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Yes you can.. its what i do! The froyo build is interesting to play, but not quite all there yet (though, it has basically be started from scratch, so it has really come a long way). I use the eclair build as my daily, and with the 1.1Ghz kernel, the device just flys (and puts my HTC incredible to shame, on 2.2). I use Zeam, but Launcher Pro and ADW both work as well.
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Can you link which build you're referring to here? Thanks.
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Can you link which build you're referring to here? Thanks.
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Sorry, i just meant the stock install..
devis said:
NookColor - 250 dollars
Case - 30 dollars
SD Card - 10 dollars
Rooting - Free
Having a very similar tablet to the Galaxy minus 350 USD - I was going to say PRICELESS but it is in effect 350 USD
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Unless there's a wi-fi only model out there I completely missed, the vast majority of us won't be able to get a Galaxy for close to $250 or even $350 factoring in the contract price which makes the Nook an even better deal.
No doubt there have been plenty of replies, and for sure it isn't like my reply is any more important than any of the others. But thought I would throw my 2 cents in.
I have an EVO, was pretty happy for the most part with the size for a phone and somewhat tablet. So I was pretty headstrong on wanting a 10" or larger tablet, was holding off for the new Tegra2's. My father and I thought a cheap tablet would be good for my mom who has memory issues etc to use to keep her active, so i bought a couple of Augen Gentouch 78's. Worth the $100 I spent on them but I fought and fought that resistive screen and knew it would be really tough for her, but was surprised that I was pretty satisfied with the 7" screen. So I looked at the next option and grabbed a couple of NC's. And I was blown away at the screen, the smoothness, the capability. The thing for $250 is incredible. It is very responsive, I mean it blows the responsiveness of my phone away at a slower speed. And after rooting, I mean the thing is limitless on what you can do. Mind you there are a few things from a true tablet it is missing, a camera, microphone and GPS, but honestly, I have my phone for GPS, my phone also has the camera for Conferencing, mind you that is the main feature I think i would like on a Tab that is missing it, but for the price, I mean really you can't touch what it can do and the speed for that price. I am completely satisfied, I am even more satisfied on the size, I do believe that 10" would be nice still for a at home all the time tablet or something, but carrying around it would be too big. The 7" is very nice, compact enough to carry but large enough to do anything. And who said size doesn't matter? So in my personal opinion it is beyond worth the $250 and makes a very fine tablet that can compete with the best of them. Mind you it is no Tegra2, but seriously is there any app out that will use a Tegra 2 power yet? I doubt it. Most games I throw at the nook have no issues. And the overclocking abilities that don't seem to overheat or cause any issues, make this beyond worth it.
So yes, I think it is a great buy, on top of that you have a perfect Reader. But with all the other abilities it is 95% perfect tablet.
My 2 cents, nuff said!
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Made a video of some of it's capabilitiies. Is it worth it?
Hell yeah it is.
very nice!!!
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I add my voice to yes, it is worth $250. I have had mine for a week and love it--can hardly put it down.
As for a cheap tablet, should I purchase a Nook Color? $250, isn't a bad deal.
Is it worth it? Laggy?
It's worth it. Benchmarks running cm7 beat the benchmarks of my evo running sense.
Well, it really depends on what you want to do.
As a tablet pc for the price it can't be beat, Don't buy it if you are expecting a powerhouse of a mobile device that will play crysis 2.
For my uses it's a perfect device, I use it for email, web surfing, rss feeds and ebooks and for a little music off and on.
If you are looking for something that has manufacturer support and will play HD movies with no configuration and has a battery that will last for a week with 3g wireless, then no this will not be the best for you.
All-in-all though I love it esp for the price, what this 'ereader' can do is amazing.
But before you buy you really need to ask yourself what you want to do,otherwise you will be like the other poster in the 'I regret buying a nook' thread....
It does depend on your expectations. If you want something that just works great out of the box with no effort, this is potentially your device. The stock works very well. The browser is very responsive and the Pulse app is great. All I would need in the stock is a comic book reader and it would be perfect as-is.
Now, if you want lots of functionality, you can install a new OS either internally or on an SD card. For the SD route, the experience is quite good. Not really much lag at all with my Sandisk Class 4. For running off a card, its impressive and I understand the internal install is even better. Once they get honeycomb ironed out and stable, it will be perfect.
I have an iPad, bought it new, love it. I bought an NC 10 days ago and gave it to my girlfriend as a gift. I am thinking about buying another one for me. For $250 I think they're awesome. The screen is very nice. I think it is only going to get more useable.
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It's worth it. Benchmarks running cm7 beat the benchmarks of my evo running sense.
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How are you in my brain??? (kidding)
That being said, my buddy bought a nook the day he saw CM7 on mine. He also liked blowing away my EVOs quadrant score, but got mad when I kicked him off my tethering for gloating.
I wouldn't buy one retail for $250 when you can save a bit by shipping around or if you are ok buying used. I see two for under $200 locally on craigslist.
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short answer ... definitely worth it. Had mine for a few days, installed CM7 (Gingerbread). Much better than what I had expected from a $250 device. The soft keys are unresponsive on very rare occasions.
Four months ago, it was far and away the best value you could get in a small tablet. It still is a great value and I have no regrets, but the Asus Eee Pad Transformer is incredibly intriguing. However, by the time you get the max RAM and dock, it's much more than 2x the price of the nook.
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I wouldn't buy one retail for $250 when you can save a bit by shipping around or if you are ok buying used. I see two for under $200 locally on craigslist.
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I'd caution against this approach. $50 is not a large enough savings to take the chance on latent problems and then dealing with potential warranty headaches born from not having the original receipt. If you're comfortable with that risk, then by all means.
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I'd caution against this approach. $50 is not a large enough savings to take the chance on latent problems and then dealing with potential warranty headaches born from not having the original receipt. If you're comfortable with that risk, then by all means.
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Personally, I bought it as an expensive toy. I've used it mostly for leisure e-reading, browsing, and textbooks. I've stuck a few engineering textbooks on it (works surprisingly well with EZPDF and landscape mode). Although, I do think a 10" screen at the very least would be more comfortable fit for textbooks.
When it's in not use, it's usually sitting on my desk as a photo frame in slideshow mode. And I have to say, the pictures really do look awesome thanks to the sexy IPS screen.
All in all, well worth the $250+tax I payed for it nearly 4 months ago. Going from stock to autonootered to froyo/honeycomb to CM7/phiremod made it feel like it just kept getting better.
Currently using the latest CM7 build overclocked to 1300 MHz. Browsing runs smooth enough in Dolphin HD to not be an annoyance.
I used mine as an eReader for the first time today! LOL
Makes an awesome tablet...so yeah, its worth it!
test one out. it's 1000x better rooted. i enjoy mine.
why don't they just make it into a full tablet and sell more?!?
Just go for it and you wont repent. Worth every penny, rather lot more!
Last year the Nook Color was an awesome value for just $250. It was a 7 inch Android device with a 1024x600 resolution IPS display, 800MHz processor with SGX530 graphics, and 512MB of RAM. Out of the box it was mostly just an ereader, but it isn't difficult to root and you can even boot a seperate ROM straight from an SD card without having to modify the stock OS, very awesome.
This year though, some nicer tablets have come down in price. The Nook Color is certainly still the best at it's price range. But there are some tablets not much more expensive that have some advantages worth spending a bit more money on.
The Galaxy Tab wifi is $350.
+ It's a tablet out of the box and Android 2.3 is rolling out.
+ 385 grams, it's lighter than the 422 gram Nook Color.
+ 1GHz TI OMAP 3630 processor, Nook Color is a 800MHz TI OMAP 3621.
+ 16GB internal storage.
+ Dual cameras.
+ More attractive appearance, flat glass front, white back.
+ Easily accessible microSD slot.
- Not an IPS display.
The ASUS Transformer is $400
+ Android 3.0 Honeycomb.
+ 10 inch 1280x800 IPS display
+ 1GHz dual core Tegra 2 processor
+ 1GB RAM
+ 16GB internal storage
+ Dual cameras.
+ More attractive appearance (yeah, I think the NC is ugly as sin)
+ Easily accessible microSD slot.
- Heavier weight compared to 7 inch tablets (same as iPad)
If you don't want to spend more than $250, then the Nook Color is awesome. But for just $100 to $150 more, I think you can get quite a lot more value from a tablet these days.
I would definitely say its worth it. I was originally looking at the Asus transformer for my first tablet but after the ridiculously low stock at launch I settled on the Acer iconia. It was a nice tablet and I liked it a lot but couldn't justify 450 bucks for what's basically a toy and also I like to tinker with things and it looks like that one won't be getting any custom roms for a while at least so I returned it and picked up the nook.
The first night I installed cm7 and haven't looked back since. I was especially glad I got the nook when the Netflix app came out since we can make it work on the nook very easily and I don't think that's possible on the iconia tab at all yet. I've been running cm7 overclocked to 900 MHz with the cm7 settings and it runs well for my uses, ebooks, web browsing, music, and some games. Theres really only two negatives I've noticed, one is the lack of haptic feedback and the other is wifi issues at my work. I'm not sure what causes it but it constantly loses the connection and as soon as I go into wifi settings page it reconnects. It works fine connected to my home network though and also when using my g2 as a wifi hotspot. Overall I really like it and think it is definitely worth the money especially compared to other tablets that's are available.
The only tablet I see which may rival the nook color is the sonicview gtab.
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wifi issues at my work. I'm not sure what causes it but it constantly loses the connection and as soon as I go into wifi settings page it reconnects. It works fine connected to my home network though and also when using my g2 as a wifi hotspot.
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I had what sounds like a similar problem too. Wi-Fi Lock seems to have solved my problems with wifi and CM7.
i think the Nook Color is a great value at under $300. That said, you can also get a G-Tablet for about $299 now fairly easily. Of those two, I'd go with the NC because of its size, display, and build quality. It's not as fast though.
That said, I am no longer an owner of a NC. I just sold it on craigslist an hour ago for $235 with some accessories included. I recently purchased the Acer A500 honeycomb tablet and I love it. I was surprised I'd like the larger size and weight (heaviest tablet...) but it actually feels nice and solid. The speed of the Tegra 2 + 1gb DDR3 Ram is a huge step up from the Nook Color even with root/overclock and lots of tweaking.
Since a few other comparisons have been brought up in here, what do you guys think about the ViewPad7 for $50 more?
I'm on the fence too. Between NC and wifi tab, I can't seem to decide. I was an early adopter; bought NC within 1st week of release but returned it as then there weren't any custom roms etc. is the sammy tab worth $100 more for the hard keys and gps? I would use mostly for browsing, second as a reader. Can anyone care battery life between the two (post rootingNC of course)?
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I'm a very happy owner of a rooted NC and have been following the progress of the Nook Tablet, planning to get one when the cm team puts out a rom for it.
Today I see that the Asus Transformer will be $250 at Best Buy for Black Friday.
I haven't been following the Transformer so I'm not very familiar with it. A quick look at the cm and xda forums doesn't seem to show any roms for this device so that is a concern.
Is this tablet a better buy than the Nook Tablet for the same price? Note I'm talking about a NT with cm on it, not a base device.
Would it be worth the hassle of dealing with Black Friday at Best Buy?
@ $250 get the Transformer if you can, you get HDMI out, Camera and GPS, just to name a few of the advantages.
The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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I realize I wouldn't be rooting the transformer. Just wondering how the two devices would compare. Thanks for all the input so far.
Would the transformer be in line for an ICS upgrade?
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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What? There is root/recovery/ROMs out for the device.
Transformer is lightning fast compared to the Nook. I have both including the dock and I have stopped using my Nook except for reading. Just a way better experience.
The TF (Tegra 2) is about on par with the Nook Tablet (OMAP 4430) for general computing, but is much worse than the NT for video playback.
The TF has HDMI out, but has no USB port. To get USB, you need to buy the dock, which I understand is $100. The dock does add a keyboard along with an extended battery, but it also adds weight. Effectively, with the dock, the TF will be an underpowered $350 netbook with detachable screen. The hybrid setup tends to be a love-hate situation. I myself prefer use of a BT keyboard that can be used for any tablet.
The TF has an IPS screen, but build quality is somewhat iffy, with speakers going out and various other ailments. Per freq of problem reports in the various Tegra 2 tabs' forums, it's about on par with the Acer Iconia, and less reliable than the Xoom or the Samsung GT.
As of this moment, the latest TF B70 stepping is still unrootable, ever since Asus changed its SBK (secure boot key). I wouldn't count on rooting the TF, since the issue has been around since August.
The TF will likely get official ICS upgrade some time early 2012.
IMO, it depends on your use. If you want an integrated keyboard, then the TF ($350 w/ keyboard) is better. It also has a larger screen, which is better for certain uses and certain people, eg older users.
I don't think it's a "better-worse" decision, since the TF and NT are different enough with little overlap. BTW, the TF has been periodically on sale at $300 for a while, so basically you'll be doing the fight-the-stampede deal for $50.
$250 is a pretty good price. If I wasn't going to get the tf prime I would pick one up.
You might be able to get it on cyber Monday online and not have to deal with the crazy people at black Friday sales.
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I had no intentions of rooting the Transformer - it is great without it.
ASUS has already announced that they would be upgrading the Transformers to Ice Cream Sandwich.
I haven't had any issues with video but I don't intend to stream video to my TV; I have a Roku, a Sony Media Player and an LG Bluray all with wifi so I can stream from those.
IMO I think the ASUS Transformer is one of the best tablets out there and worth the $250 or $300 it costs.
Edit: ASUS has really impressed me with their willingness to issue OS updates for this device. I don't think any phones or other tablets have gotten as much love from the manufacturer.
Will they keep up with the updates now that the prime is coming out?
That is a great price. I have the NC and the TF. The TF is a full tablet running Honeycomb. Even without rooting it is a great experience. Much better than the CM7.1 on the NC. FWIW, Asus has provided great support on the TF. They just updated the firmware on Thursday. Some post have said that ICS is coming to the TF in January.
If comparing both as tablets then; the Transformer wins because it is usable as a HC tablet out-of-the-box with official G Market support plus the pending upgrade to ICS.
The NT will require aftermarket hacking and OSes to run as a tablet.
It will of course enjoy great developer support (here & elsewhere) assuming the 'SD card-boots-first' holds true to make it easier. I doubt if we see anything beyond Gingerbread on the NT.
However, dealing with the lines of people on frigid mornings outside BB is not worth it (IMO). It seems every year the lines keep getting longer and longer with people coming in at 9:00 p.m. the previous night. Just not worth it anymore.
I would rather get the NT for $250 and mess with it.
On a side note: I am excited about the NT since it comes with a dual-core, more ram and storage and a mic. I have 3 year extended coverage with ADH handling from ST. Hope my NC breaks down in the next 12 months; might get the NT as replacement....he he.
I thought about it, and after finding out the closest best buy is almost 2 hours away, I just said nah.
Plus, I'm dying to see if I can get the NT as a replacement in case something "terrible" were to happen to my NC lol.