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what up yall! My ATT tilt died a few weeks ago (flex cable went bad, decided it was time to move on) so i got a G1 from my buddy that had a broken digitizer and LCD. ordered the parts online and got it put back together today. few questions though.... it seems that about the bottom 1/4 inch of my touch screen dosent respond....its brand new and the rest of it works fin...just the small strip that seems to not work. any ideas? also t mobile are assholes...i cant get them to unlock it but i will work on that one...im quite sure that answer is on here. Also...do i really need to get a data package or can i choose to keep my phone from constantly connecting and updating my gmail and other apps? thats the reason i continue to get HTC is because i think data plans are silly when everywhere in america has WiFI....i think thats all for now...and ive been a member on here for quite sometime but this android mess is totally different. lol. thank yall!
That 1/4" at the bottoms sounds like a bad digitizer. =/ *Most* likely not software. But you can check by flashing a new ROM and if its a software problem, the new ROM will override whatever was causing it not to work before.
You can get it unlocked for $20 from one of many unlocking websites, just google it. You can't get it free anywhere other than T-Mobile sorry to say.
You don't *need* a data package, I don't have one. There are applications that can disable your data connection except for when you need it (i.e. MMS). Or its a built-in widget with the Hero ROMs.
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi. But honestly, I think this phone is crippled without a data connection even if you don't use it all the time, I'm currently waiting for my current plan to end to sign another 2-year contract with data. But its up to you, its certainly still usable with enough WiFi connection points.
darn....its not very fun to take apart...plus i have to wait even longer...im currently using an old school , non color green screen nokia probably digitizer and not some random flex cable along the lines? maybe the black one? i guess there wouldnt be any way to check without replacing. and im not real addicted to any apps or anything, just mainly want it as phone/organizer. im a studennt and have wi fi at the house and at school, and every bar i go to has wi fi so i think im covered =) just making sure i could regulate it so it dosent pull and jack my bill up. if i were to flash a new rom, wouldnt that unlock it....and can you still downgrade it to rc29 when you dont have a t mobile sim card....or rather is there any other way besides adp or should i just go ahead and learn how to use it...seems a bit intimidating to anything ive done on a WMo phone.
you can use apndroid to block data from being used accidentally
flashing a rom will not unlock the phone.
Yes you can downgrade to RC29 without a tmo card
mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
ztch10 said:
mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
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You are correct.
h.nocturna said:
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi.
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I haven't tried it myself, but this thread tells you how to get around that.
note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
B-man007 said:
note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
Chahk said:
I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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ah ok i figured he already found that or would.
sorry
You can root without data. Just activate wifi at RC29 when trying to sign in
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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
h.nocturna said:
Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
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all ROM's based on adp (and most modded tmo) have the option to skip (at least im pretty sure)
He just wants to activate his phone without data, which would require him to get down to a root level rom (RC29)
after he logs in, he has the option to root or wait for the OTA update if he wants to stay stock
if he wants to try to use his data, he can try but it doesnt always work (it did for me at first, but not the next few times)
ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
ztch10 said:
ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
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1. That would stop just contacts, calendar, and gmail not all of the other apps that come with the phone
2. Rooting is definitely worth it, loving my hero rom
3. If your on RC29 there is no camcorder, but if not then it's definitely a hardware issue, when I was on stock everything worked fine
Just FYI: the unlock code is phone specific, so if your getting a replacement, the unlock code wont work on that one if the code you got was for the other.
1) If you want to disable data, download and run APNDroid. You can turn off autosync if you want but data will still be used.
2) Rooting has lots of advantages. Themes, faster updates (i.e youll get the latest android before its released OTA) more modifications, use of certain apps such as Ad-Free, etc. cooked android roms are more stable than winmo cooked roms, and you have the option between stable/experimental
3) if it was stock, its probably a hardware error
so could i potenitally not have any apps and not have a data pull problem? or it seems as though just rooting and flashing to hero (would you all go hero, or newer 1.6 stock rom, or custom 1.6?) and ill be taking it back apart to send the bad digitzer back, so ill check the ol camera out. still is stock T-mobile 1.5....no rc29 or anything....yet...
if you still have 1.5, you can use the 1 click root
im using hero right now, but i switch between hero and cyan using the switchrom script
the g1 on stock android will still use data even if you have everything disabled. the only way to completely disable it is by changing the apns, or by disabling mobile data on a hero rom
what was wrong with the camera? give a little more detail so we know if it really is a hardware or software problem
Quiccest way to get unlock code..just tellem you are goin to the uk or sum and you are in need of unlocking since u will be on there network for a while.. Usually that works!
I'm leaning pretty strong towards the former, but let me just say I am a *BIG* fan of Android. I bought the ADP1, and gave that to my wife when I switched to T-Mo & bought the MT3G. Both are great devices, and I run cm on them. Overall I have a great experience with these phones & they're super fun & convenient.
But on both devices, both when I had the ADP1 on AT&T and with the MT3G with T-Mo, (where I live I have to roam off of AT&T, so it's using the same towers as before.) all IM apps stink because they cannot stay connected. This is including the built-in gtalk & sms-based IM apps and every other free one on the market that I've tried. IM+, Meebo, eBuddy, Aimer, Hi Aim/Yahoo, imov, Palringo, all fail to keep a session open. I'm almost certain it's something with Android, because it's the same on mobile networks as with wifi, and I've used BlackBerrys on the very same networks & locations and not had this problem. At all.
So what gives? I'm not gonna pay for a chat app, even if that would solve the problem. These apps are free on BlackBerry, and I have a spare BB that I can swap my sim card into if I have to & just use the MT3G as a MID where I have wifi available. I'd love to jump in and try to write a chat app for Android that fixes this problem, but I'm at best a n00b dev & don't know where to begin. If there's someone out there with some guidance on how to get started on that, or if the problem is specific to something with me/my devices, or can explain this so I can understand the problem if not solve it, or any other input at all I'd love to get your feedback.
Maybe it's you or something up with your service
Maybe it's you, something up with your service, or your particular phones. Where my parents live, nothing works but ATT. I've had two BB which I couldn't even receive a signal.
Then when I moved up to the Dash and then to the wing, I received one bar and I could get all of my services to work, even the IM services. When I moved to the G1, two bars.
Now, with the MyTouch, I get three bars and all of my apps which require the network work. IM, text, phone. The blackberry wouldn't even get a signal let alone IM.
So maybe it has something to do with the service and the phone.
wierd thing is, at the very same location & networks, both wap & wifi, i get a completely different result on the mt3g than i do on the bb. there has to be something wrong with the android network stack or how IM apps use it or something.
hopefully i'm not speaking too soon...
... but i may have fixed my problem. i was thinking about how Android puts applications to sleep if it's low on memory, so i changed my userinit.sh script to enable swap. been logged in all afternoon. we'll see how well this continues...
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enabling swap fixed the problem. apparently Android system tells the chat apps to shut down to free up ram & they can no longer keep their sessions open.
thanks for the hint.
Thought about this a lot but didn't want to try.
Now I'll have to... Thanks
i used to use ebuddy on my htc magic.
and now i use the built in google voice/chat with my milestone.
both have been great for me...especially the latter. I dont even need to log on or anythnig. its just like recieving text messages
Now i have 256 megs of ram size. everything works just fine. more than that. minimal lag on switching apps and tabs(highest so far was 4 seconds)
Hello guiz. I am completely new with how to tweak the innards of my MyTouch.
What is this "swapping" you guys are talking about and how do you activate it?
Does it really help keep the AIM session connected despite being in the background?
I've always knew of the problem that causes AIM to constantly sign off when I try
using it, but never knew how to address the source issue.
Thanks for reply!
well im not sure if this is the right place to put it but since my question has to do with a nexus one, i decided to put it here. if its the wrong place, please move mods. anyways, i have two android devices, AT&T Nexus One and an unlocked G1. i noticed when i sign in with Google through the G1, my N1 apps get carried over to it. i know this happens as i flash my N1 alot but my question is, is there a way to stop this so my N1 apps dont go to my G1? also when messing around, the apps i had on my G1 were transfered to my N1 when i flashed it once. took a while and some messing around to get my 200 N1 apps back. so is there any way to keep the 200 apps on my N1 and not go to my G1 and to keep the few apps on my G1 n not go to my N1 when im flashing a new rom? sorry if this question has been asked already or if this sounds confusing, ill try to provide further info if i need to. its not so much of a huge problem rather as a really annoying problem
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Try turning off "Automatic Restore" in Settings -> Privacy.
Sold my 3GS today (good time to sell with the iPod case now being made that makes it a phone...), anyway, back on my Tilt now, but I'm not getting rid of the iPhone data plan because it's unlimited..
Come WP7, I'm going to sell my contract (unlim. data is hot of course) so I can get new device with discount price! =D
However until then, since I'm keeping the iPhone data, I'm trying to figure out how to get data to work on my Tilt......
I've googled around for about an hour, found various apn settings, but not really sure what to go with.
IE: do I select MediaNet, AT&T ISP, or My ISP?
I have no clue =(
Once I figure this out, I'm also going to be flashing a stock rom so I can flash that WP7 rom which is so beautiful.... but where are the stock roms? The link in that thread to the XDA wiki is blank.
After that, I'm adding froyo if that's around yet lol, gotta test that voice command!
interesting... after flashing to the htc stock 6.1 rom, when I did the AT&T auto settings, my data is now working it didn't work when it did it auto on 6.5
.. 709kbit/sec on dslreports mobile test.
Is that 3G speed? lol
Anyway, if someone can still provide me with the settings to pick that would be great since I'm also going to be trying the Kaiser WP7 build momentarily and also a froyo build.... =D
my keyboard doesnt work too good should probably get android for now hahaha need voice commands!
hmmm not sure if this is bad or not, but......
just received a weird text msg from att number 10000000
"alpsgaacds01.attwireless.net:5400?
f=0&v=420&m=(my phone number)&p=
&S=I&s=5433&t=(my phone number):A:
OJUSAP46:ms08:client:9451"
ok guess it's no big deal according to this: http://forums.crackberry.com/f86/t-sending-me-texts-after-switching-storm-138183/
thank god LOL thought they were catching me on winphone on iphone data! wow that sucks thats going to keep happening though until i sell the plan omggg
i upgraded to an Evo and now i have my hero lying around collecting dust.. i have a friend that uses cricket and i did a ton of research to get it working but my searches stopped when i read that corpus christi and surrounding areas are in what are called an asw (or something like that) market and that either way the phone wont work flashing it to cricket.. so they went ahead and switched to pocket and i took the phone into the pocket store and they tried to flash it using their houdini software but it wasnt detecting the phone (because they need to load the htc drivers) so they guy pretty much said that they can flash it, i told him that he can get the drivers from the houdinisoft website and he claimed that they dont have internet at the store but that the IT guys installed the software... so as of right now im on a mission on flashing the phone myself.. ive found mms settings and things like that but my main thing is the initial flash to get talking and txt going.. so my question is, has anyone been able to flash this phone to pocket.. im just needing to know if i just need to use all the same steps as i do for cricket or metro since searches regarding "pocket" are limited.. sometimes its not even listed as a carrier on certain forums.. howardforums had some info but not enough of what ive needed.. any help would be appreciated during my journey.. thanks
I assume its the same as changing any phone to a different service provider. You just need all the settings for Pocket and put them into the Hero. Basically when a company flashes a phone to work on their network they are putting all of the settings into the phone automatically and not manually like you are doing. I think getting voice calls to work is the easiest to setup and getting mms, sms and internet working is a bit harder if you can not figure out username, etc. But most use the [email protected]
if you have access to a data enabled pocket wireless phone that you can read via qpst or cdma workshop you should be able to get all the info you need to put into the hero. Does pocket wireless sell hero's or any other htc phone that you could get diagnostic drivers for? just load up a netbook and pull from the in store phones maybe?
thats what i was thinking.. a friend of mine brought her pocket phone and i was going to get all the information of the phone using qpst as well as cdma wrkshp but when she brought the phone i was having problems reading it on the pc.. i think the cable was just jacked up.. she was going to borrow a cable from a friend of hers and is gonna bring it over today for a round 2.. ill see if that works
so i transferred all settings from a pocket phone onto the hero and when i went to the store and they tried doing an esn swap its gave an error saying that the phone couldnt be activated because the correct software wasnt used.. looks like im gonna have to program it using the houdini software.. ive dwnlded the program from houdinisoft dot come but it acts for a user name and password so im gonna have to do a little investigating to see whats up with that.. until next time