so some touchwiz 4 ports are out already, i tried one and i didnt really like it, so here's the question:
will developers be able to port ALL the touchwiz 4 elements, including the launcher, icons, functionality, widgets and wallpapers to the sgs and maybe other devices?
no matter what most people think, i really like the look and feel of touchwiz eventhough it might not be as professional as sense or launcherpro and so on..
BUT the new touchwiz 4 is almost close to an ideal launcher. so are we going to be able to use a full feature touchwiz 4 on sgs someday? maybe as an apk file or a theme package or maybe even a touchwiz 4 ROM?!
Sure hopes so, but you need some really great devs for this.
just to understand the procedure, wht exactly do the developers do to port the touchwiz 4 to sgs?
i mean, the stock rom gets deodexed, they extract it and find the .apks of the launcher, wallpaper chooser, widgets and such stuff, then what? wont they just work if they are installed on other wvga devices? what else should be done?
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Is there a Gingerbread theme or even a froyo ROM with just Gingerbread theme on it? I just want the plain Sesneless look of Gingerbread right now? If not someone should definitely make one. I was going to make a theme port but I wasn't sure it the lack of sense stuff would mess with the phone.
ADW Launcher or Launcher Pro with a Gingerbread theme. That'd be the easiest way and it's all available from the market.
Do any launchers support widgets yet? I've used ADW and 2.3 launcher and neither do.
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Pretty much all launchers support widgets... did you mean to say the HTC widgets? If so, only stock launcher will work with those... but there are plenty of widgets that are similar or better than the HTC ones.
(Launcher Pro Plus includes many of them that look almost exactly like the HTC ones.)
Hyper4mance2k said:
Do any launchers support widgets yet? I've used ADW and 2.3 launcher and neither do.
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believe me, if you're looking for support for HTC widgets in any launcher than the stock sense launcher (rosie.apk), you're not going to find anything. People have been trying since sense's debut (i spent a pretty good chunk of three months trying) and it's just too tightly wound into Rosie. I think most have given up on it at this point. I would go with ADW launcher (free in the market) and beautiful widgets or fancy widget (beautiful widgets is better imo, but fancy widget is free). I know beautiful widgets even has unlock animations now that work pretty well and aren't very intrusive. I'd give that a shot if you want a stock look with an app dock, with a small amount of sense.
I love the simplicity of having no app drawer and integrated folders with the MIUI rom, but now that we have more gingerbread (thanks developers), I wanna try some other roms. I always lose apps in the app drawer and I know it bloats up my phone. If possible, is there any way to install the MIUI launcher in another rom (or just remove the app drawer from another launcher)? Or is it too deeply integrated to simply install the same way as something like launcher pro? I don't care about the ability to theme or whatever, I just want an app-drawer-free launcher.
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Isn't there any good launcher for CM7 without an app drawer? I find it annoying to the extreme like the MIUI launcher or ifone *blasphemy*
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Here's a dark horse - "Simple Home" from LG!
I couldn't believe it myself...
After months of loving MIUI, and hating the drawer again after upgrading to Evervolv 4.1.2, I found Simple Home, a iOS-like drawer-less app launcher developed by LG, with an install footprint of only 2-3 Mb (versus MIHome's 20Mb payload).
LG? Really?!?!?
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I couldn't believe it myself...
After months of loving MIUI, and hating the drawer again after upgrading to Evervolv 4.1.2, I found Simple Home, a iOS-like drawer-less app launcher developed by LG, with an install footprint of only 2-3 Mb (versus MIHome's 20Mb payload).
LG? Really?!?!?
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I would also love all apps on the homescreen and am stuck with miui at present because the LG simple home is not suitable for WVGA galaxy s2
etherspin said:
I would also love all apps on the homescreen and am stuck with miui at present because the LG simple home is not suitable for WVGA galaxy s2
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same here :/
Look at "granade launcher" its a little buggy but intresting
The question is in the title !
WHY ??
Because it sucks.
It doesn't add (I'm fairly sure) any functionality that custom ROM's like CM7 offer, and it bloats the the size of the ROM just for bells and whistles that most nexus users hate, which is why we own nexuses.
TouchWiz 4, like Sense, is a very well polished, fast UI, that AOSP/CM/MIUI are trying to be (and can't - lots of features missing). It's way beyond launcher. But it's made with another HW in mind, and some of its framework might depend on modified kernel functions etc. Which means - it's hard work to port such a thing across to different device.
Since there are no devs to do serious work on this one, you don't have it. It's that simple.
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Ah, so any TouchWiz ROM will be for the N1 , it's that ?
There is a TouchWiz cm7 theme, and you can always use the touchwiz launcher too.
Theres always options...
Ok, this is a serious question guys.
I am coming from a HTC Inspire 4G, where a full ROM was under a hundred meg, why is it even with almost everything removed, ROMs for my beloved Note are over 300meg..?
Look forward to everyones answers!!
Cheers
FYI your Inspire's stock Sense ROM is over 350MB. Sense and TouchWiz are big ROMs with added features and so on. The ROMs under 100MB is CM7 and MIUI. Since we don't have these for the Note yet, we'll have to settle with TouchWiz ROMs for the time being.
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I install Zeam straight away once I install a ROM, what are the features that TouchWiz offers?! I doubt I use any of them lol.
Totally forgot Inspire was sense I installed a clean ASOP rom as soon as I got it.
Probably been answered a hundreds time around here but I can't find anything for SGN, how do i build my own ROM a guide would be awesome, I'd really love to throw together an ASOP inspired ROM and try and get the size down and speed up!
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I install Zeam straight away once I install a ROM, what are the features that TouchWiz offers?! I doubt I use any of them lol.
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They're not just the UI, it's also the apps.
Android itself doesn't support S-Pen in 2.3, so that's Samsung.
The calendar app - samsung
widgets - samsung
custom apps and UI (like rubberbanding effects, custom font setting, etc)
There are a lot of under the hood things that has been changed. Touchwiz is something essential for ANY ROM and it takes A LOT of work to remove it. I mean A LOT. Samsung designed it to be run with Touchwiz, so any dev. has to work a lot to get everything working fine without any touchwiz and that's a lot of work.
And the numbers of pixels of Note is 2.6 times of WVGA. So, all the graphic files for the UI will be larger too.
Hey I was just wondering why this does not work .
Why can I not cross use different apks from different roms .
I am using Ice cold sandwich atm and the Camera application sucks on it , half the stuff doesn't work so I am forced to use a third party application.
I tried to access the app folder inside the "system.ext3.tar" which was found in one of my backup roms . ---> Created with CW MOD
I basically tried to take the working camera application and install it on my current rom but it crashes on startup, how do you actually go about doing stuff like this? What are the requirements ?
I just dont get why it does not work
I also hate the clock APK in the rom it does not have a world clock which I really need. I tried to again take the World Clock apk from another rom and it did not even install.
They were all from different icecream sandwiches but with sense 4 , the rom I am using does not have sense but I dont see how that would really affect this
Can someone explain to me how to cross use APK system files ?:good::good:
I believe you can't cross sense with aosp and aokp. If you want sense apps to work then port to a sense Rom. Your trying to put a square peg in a triangle hole.
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I cannor really explain it, but I know for sure that u can't use apk-files from sense or touchwhiz and use them on AOKP ROMs. It's just not possible. Same thing for widgets...
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I cannor really explain it, but I know for sure that u can't use apk-files from sense or touchwhiz and use them on AOKP ROMs. It's just not possible. Same thing for widgets...
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I have an apk though that is the SENSE clock and it works in me rom which is AOSP :/
I can upload it if you would like to see and it works it appears in the widgets sections on my phone
Nanafy said:
I have an apk though that is the SENSE clock and it works in me rom which is AOSP :/
I can upload it if you would like to see and it works it appears in the widgets sections on my phone
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I don't think it would be *sense*
It hasn't been taken from a HTC rom, its just a clock thats themed to look like sense
like themed
A themed AOKP rom to look like sense is not a sense rom
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I don't think it would be *sense*
It hasn't been taken from a HTC rom, its just a clock thats themed to look like sense
like themed
A themed AOKP rom to look like sense is not a sense rom
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I see thanks for all your help guys and if anyone can explain to me the technical aspect of not being able to cross APKS due to AOSP and AOKP
I am just curious as to the limiting factor
Nanafy said:
I see thanks for all your help guys and if anyone can explain to me the technical aspect of not being able to cross APKS due to AOSP and AOKP
I am just curious as to the limiting factor
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HTC apps require HTC framework and other HTC apps in order to work
So without the other apps, just come of them won't work
Most apps from other Roms, like Sony Ericsson and miui Roms will work, I have some of them
I think just Samsung and HTC apps won't work
But Samsung apps can be hacked
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Nanafy said:
I see thanks for all your help guys and if anyone can explain to me the technical aspect of not being able to cross APKS due to AOSP and AOKP
I am just curious as to the limiting factor
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There are dependency on HTC framework for sense APk,thus causing sense apk not working at aosp/aopk rom.
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