The question is in the title !
WHY ??
Because it sucks.
It doesn't add (I'm fairly sure) any functionality that custom ROM's like CM7 offer, and it bloats the the size of the ROM just for bells and whistles that most nexus users hate, which is why we own nexuses.
TouchWiz 4, like Sense, is a very well polished, fast UI, that AOSP/CM/MIUI are trying to be (and can't - lots of features missing). It's way beyond launcher. But it's made with another HW in mind, and some of its framework might depend on modified kernel functions etc. Which means - it's hard work to port such a thing across to different device.
Since there are no devs to do serious work on this one, you don't have it. It's that simple.
Sad
Ah, so any TouchWiz ROM will be for the N1 , it's that ?
There is a TouchWiz cm7 theme, and you can always use the touchwiz launcher too.
Theres always options...
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Which GUI do you like or use more?
No Sense here...
I can never make my mind up. i like the stock Gingerbread, its simple and quick, where as the Sense can sometimes cause a bit of lack with the clock changing or the widgets being so big. But at the same time i miss the sense and its integration with the whole system. The dialer, phonebook etc looks so much nicer.
atm im using the RCMix HD rom, which is pretty damn quick and has sense. so im happy for now. may change my mind in a month or two.
Gingerbread for me. Although I do like a bit of the original HTC flip clock from time to time, especially the one with the flip animation
I can't decide which look I like more. I like the functionality of Sense UI and how everything ties together, But I like the speed of Gingerbread.
I like the Gingerbread UI. It feels like to the point, without the frills and hassles.
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I like the Gingerbread UI. It feels like to the point, without the frills and hassles.
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I agree. I just flashed a Desire-HD rom , and tried it for a bit. But, I quickly became bored with it fast...
gingerbread all the way
I just go between RCSDSmix Sense/MIUI-Dev/CM Nightlies
Usually just flash whichever has latest update and move to new one when it updates
It's like which color of shirt do I wear today
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I'm a little of both.
I only really like the weather unlock animations, weather app and new 3.0 lockscreen from Sense. Besides that, I like the simplicity and look of stock gingerbread
you can find a replacement theme, alternate apps and widgets..
although you wont ever get that tight sense ui integration
but sense roms are very plain.. theres things i miss about it here and there but not as much as i enjoy playing around with cyanogenmod roms and customizing every little bit of it
I'm personally torn between the two, but that's the nice thing about the Nexus One (especially when the bootloader has been unlocked).
I'm a fan of Sense, and it's the only UI I like. There's just something about it, and I think a few of you touch upon some of the reasons why I like it. I don't know if it's because it makes the phone seem more user-friendly, but I know it's something. It just feels solid. As far as functionality goes, it makes the phone feel like it has a fully-functioning OS. There are just so many little unique customizations that make the phone more user-friendly.
On the other hand, I'm a big fan of CM7. Quite possibly the best iteration of Gingerbread on the streets. The speed of Gingerbread, especially in CM7, is mind-blowing (especially when you think how far things have come since the early days of Eclair in January 2010). I sometimes feel "homesick" when I'm using a Sense ROM.
I think it boils down to what you want out of your ROM. Sense is rigid. Vanilla Gingerbread allows you to make things how you want it. I will say this though: the stock camera app sucks. The Sense camera is tons better.
Just my 2 cents.
There is no properly functional Sense ROM for Nexus for at least a year.
UI- and usability-wise, since DesireHD's Froyo versions Sense beats both stock Gingerbread and CM7 by a large margin. But unfortunately it can only be seen on Desire, since Nexus doesn't have proper functionality in those ROMs.
I think SenseUI is the better one.
ROM flasher... i flash wherever i want RCADSmix SENSE > CM7 > MIUI .... which one suit the mood..
The gingerbread interface is better Pure android experience!
so some touchwiz 4 ports are out already, i tried one and i didnt really like it, so here's the question:
will developers be able to port ALL the touchwiz 4 elements, including the launcher, icons, functionality, widgets and wallpapers to the sgs and maybe other devices?
no matter what most people think, i really like the look and feel of touchwiz eventhough it might not be as professional as sense or launcherpro and so on..
BUT the new touchwiz 4 is almost close to an ideal launcher. so are we going to be able to use a full feature touchwiz 4 on sgs someday? maybe as an apk file or a theme package or maybe even a touchwiz 4 ROM?!
Sure hopes so, but you need some really great devs for this.
just to understand the procedure, wht exactly do the developers do to port the touchwiz 4 to sgs?
i mean, the stock rom gets deodexed, they extract it and find the .apks of the launcher, wallpaper chooser, widgets and such stuff, then what? wont they just work if they are installed on other wvga devices? what else should be done?
Is it possible to make the new miui lockscreen flashable just like the miui camera is?
Should be able to. Just try to push it to system/app before you do just to make sure its gonna to work first.
The lockscreen in miui isn't an apk so I don't think it is that easy. I doubt their lockscreens will work on other rom's either.
Oh ok. well I don't know much about miui. Im sure someone could figure it out though
Just use MIUI its better anyway.... Has Iphone, sense3.0, and gingerbread lockscreens without zips to install just go into themes...
I'm pretty sure it's tied into the framework... so, lots of work to do there if you're truly interested, haha. I'd use MIUI but CM7 is just faster and there's a million more, IMO, useful customization features compared to MIUI... pretty much the whole Cyanogenmod Settings tab. The one thing that really bugs me about MIUI is the menu system. It's beautiful, as it replicates that of the iPhone, but it's always been so laggy for me, I can't deal with it.
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The lockscreen in miui isn't an apk so I don't think it is that easy. I doubt their lockscreens will work on other rom's either.
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That's a shame. From the pictures, it looks like a combination between the honeycomb ring/ripple-lock and the sense 3.0 ring-lock. Both of which I like, so the newest miui lockscreen had me all excited. Lol
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Oh ok. well I don't know much about miui. Im sure someone could figure it out though
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MIUI is built from open source but the rom itself isn't open source. It simply isn't possible.
MIUI > Vanilla Android
I was a loooooooooong time CM6 and CM7 user. But the latest MIUI is blazing. IMHO it's faster than CM7 in day to day use (I don't benchmark) and more stable.
MIUI has so many hidden subtleties throughout the ROM. Use it for a week and see if you like it
I liked MIUI in the froyo days. It was super stable and smooth. However ever since Gingerbread it's been much laggier across the board and far less stable than the froyo build. Swiping between homescreens is no longer smooth unless you use a hack that disables wallpaper scrolling (miuiandroid build) or keep your homescreens widget free with minimal icons. Of course if you use an alternate launcher then that isn't even a concern. But as mentioned earlier, the menus are also very laggy and annoying to use. I will admit the new dark theme makes it look a dream, but it has a bug that makes screen rotation take a relatively long time to flip and as such less usable.
CM7 may not have the aesthetic superiority that MIUI has but at least everything is smooth and gingerbread. I would love to see the MIUI lockscreen on CM7 but that will never happen.
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To all that have a complaint about MIUI - the rotation lag is normally tied to a theme at the moment, I don't get lag anywhere else. Make sure you try your favorite launcher as well - I don't like the one that comes with it but if I swap over to Go launcher everything is nice and smooth again and I can find my stuff!
On the other hand, I have never found a rom other than CM7 with so much raw speed. CM7 will restore all my stuff insanely fast - all others are fairly slow in comparison. But how often do you go restoring everything unless you swap roms daily and are on fresh builds! I have really been enjoying MIUI lately, especially with the new themes and lock screens.
I'd say my favorite thing about MIUI is not having to install a decent camera app everytime. That was kind of annoying with CM7 which is otherwise wonderful as is.
Ok, this is a serious question guys.
I am coming from a HTC Inspire 4G, where a full ROM was under a hundred meg, why is it even with almost everything removed, ROMs for my beloved Note are over 300meg..?
Look forward to everyones answers!!
Cheers
FYI your Inspire's stock Sense ROM is over 350MB. Sense and TouchWiz are big ROMs with added features and so on. The ROMs under 100MB is CM7 and MIUI. Since we don't have these for the Note yet, we'll have to settle with TouchWiz ROMs for the time being.
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I install Zeam straight away once I install a ROM, what are the features that TouchWiz offers?! I doubt I use any of them lol.
Totally forgot Inspire was sense I installed a clean ASOP rom as soon as I got it.
Probably been answered a hundreds time around here but I can't find anything for SGN, how do i build my own ROM a guide would be awesome, I'd really love to throw together an ASOP inspired ROM and try and get the size down and speed up!
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I install Zeam straight away once I install a ROM, what are the features that TouchWiz offers?! I doubt I use any of them lol.
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They're not just the UI, it's also the apps.
Android itself doesn't support S-Pen in 2.3, so that's Samsung.
The calendar app - samsung
widgets - samsung
custom apps and UI (like rubberbanding effects, custom font setting, etc)
There are a lot of under the hood things that has been changed. Touchwiz is something essential for ANY ROM and it takes A LOT of work to remove it. I mean A LOT. Samsung designed it to be run with Touchwiz, so any dev. has to work a lot to get everything working fine without any touchwiz and that's a lot of work.
And the numbers of pixels of Note is 2.6 times of WVGA. So, all the graphic files for the UI will be larger too.
Are there any keyboard themes out for the stock keyboard already or can we simple use the themes that were there for the Note 3?
Thanks everyone
I would wait a while. Everyones getting into the habit of flashing n3 stuff on n4. Bad idea i think. There are new and changed feature in n4 that you may be missing or breaking by flashing n3 mods. This may or may not be true for the keyboard but i wouldnt chance it. Wait until they're ported over or created correctly. Usually CbucZ has and does awesome keyboard work with requests. Best keyboard dev IMO for stock keyboards. Im not a fan of having a chopped up $750 n4. Just an opinion, do as you will sir?