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Wi-Fi Tethering?

I hope this question is not idiotic, but does Wi-Fi tethering press charges on your account? If this matters I have T-Mobile, and Dream (G1). I'm just curious, I don't really want charges for this. Sorry if there has been previous topics about this, and thanks for those who actually help me ^>^

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Its the same as loading the browser....correct me if im wrong, but unless u have "unlimited" data, your gonna get charged for data..
Welcome to XDA.

Well I do have an unlimited android web service (data plan) so if I tether, I'll just receive the monthly charges I already recieve?

If you have unlimited plan... and it has the data plan included... then you will not be charged anything extra.. your bill not change.. Wifi terthing uses your data plan, as stated above its like using the browser on the phone.. But like anything i wouldnt go crazy and downloand huge files or anything like that...

[Q] Is there an additional cost for "Mobile AP" use on Froyo

I've upgraded to the Froyo floating around here and there is the Mobile AP option in the wireless settings. Talking to my friend who has an Incredible, he says that Verizon charges $20 a month to use what I am assuming to be the equivalent thing but on their network.
What I want to know is, do you have to pay to use the built in Mobile AP setting, or should I download a different wifi tether app, or what?
Thanks!

vsboxerboy1 said:
I've upgraded to the Froyo floating around here and there is the Mobile AP option in the wireless settings. Talking to my friend who has an Incredible, he says that Verizon charges $20 a month to use what I am assuming to be the equivalent thing but on their network.
What I want to know is, do you have to pay to use the built in Mobile AP setting, or should I download a different wifi tether app, or what?
Thanks!
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No you don't have to pay to use it.

Thanks! Would you happen to know if my friend is correct in saying that he has to pay $20 / month to use the Incredible's version of this?
It seems so un-ATT not to charge for something....

My understanding of it is that the mobile ap option in the leaked froyo is free but not because att is deciding not to charge for it, it is because this is in fact a leaked version of froyo and when it officially comes out they will find a way to charge for it or just include an att version of it that you will have to pay for and this new application that will be on the official froyo will be the equivalent of what your friend has for verizon. Hope that helps and if you want to be extra careful just download one of the wireless tethering apps
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vsboxerboy1 said:
Thanks! Would you happen to know if my friend is correct in saying that he has to pay $20 / month to use the Incredible's version of this?
It seems so un-ATT not to charge for something....
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Oh ATT would love to have you believe you have to pay their twenty dollar subscription fee to enable tethering on your phone as well.
My guess (and this is just a guess as I have no experience with verizon) is if your friend can get either easy tether or another such app on his phone he would not need to pay them either. Again I don't know anything about verizon or the contract your friend has with them.

Yeah, I poked around a bit on the Incrdible subforum and it seems like all curernt wifi tether apps require root access, which he does not have (I don't want to be his IT guy so I'm not gonna root it for him lol)

vsboxerboy1 said:
I've upgraded to the Froyo floating around here and there is the Mobile AP option in the wireless settings. Talking to my friend who has an Incredible, he says that Verizon charges $20 a month to use what I am assuming to be the equivalent thing but on their network.
What I want to know is, do you have to pay to use the built in Mobile AP setting, or should I download a different wifi tether app, or what?
Thanks!
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What Data Plan do you have with AT&T? If you weren't grandfathered in on the old $30 unlimited plan and you exceed your cap you could end up paying quite a bit for tethering.

ranjo65 said:
What Data Plan do you have with AT&T? If you weren't grandfathered in on the old $30 unlimited plan and you exceed your cap you could end up paying quite a bit for tethering.
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how can you "exceed a cap" on an "unlimited plan"?

dayv said:
how can you "exceed a cap" on an "unlimited plan"?
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You can't.
But there was a point at which you would raise flags and be investigated.

MikeyMike01 said:
You can't.
But there was a point at which you would raise flags and be investigated.
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Investigated for what exactly? Who would do the investigating? And a what point would the flags raise?

dayv said:
how can you "exceed a cap" on an "unlimited plan"?
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Read a little slower next time. I said if he wasn't ("weren't") grandfathered in on the unlimited plan.

dayv said:
Investigated for what exactly? Who would do the investigating? And a what point would the flags raise?
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1. Excessive data usage, even on an unlimited plan. (A clue to tethering when tethering isn't allowed...like, say, with a Captivate.
2. AT&T
3. Don't know.

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ranjo65 said:
Read a little slower next time. I said if he wasn't ("weren't") grandfathered in on the unlimited plan.
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I am a slow reader, but I still missed that up. LOL

dayv said:
I am a slow reader, but I still missed that up. LOL
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No worries.

I have unlimited data, grandfathered in.
My friend has unlimited data as well, but AFAIK there isn't an easy root solution for the Incredible yet - thus, there is no wifi tether app (that I know of) for him to use.

vsboxerboy1 said:
I have unlimited data, grandfathered in.
My friend has unlimited data as well, but AFAIK there isn't an easy root solution for the Incredible yet - thus, there is no wifi tether app (that I know of) for him to use.
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The simple answer is - if you use tethering and not paying for it, then you are violating the terms of service. Tethering is officially a separate product.
But, the captivate has no AT&T tethering app, so they have no easy way to monitor tethering usage. If you use a lot of data, they may start looking, and even then, they have to do some deep packet inspection to determine that you are tethering and not doing all this on your phone - and even deep packet inspection is not 100% conclusive as you could say you are using a custom browser that makes your phone look like Firefox on Windows 7.
So even if they were suspicious, all they could first is send you a letter about bandwidth. They would have a hard time proving anything. BUT, they can always terminate service - they can say they don't want you as a customer any more.
The only people that get in trouble for tethering are the ones that run their whole house internet off their phone. Occasional use, and under 5GB per month, and they wont bother you.

alphadog00 said:
The simple answer is - if you use tethering and not paying for it, then you are violating the terms of service. Tethering is officially a separate product.
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What? If this is true, and by this logic, I must be violating my terms of service every time I use google navigator -- after all att has their own paid subscription for att navigator.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use dropbox since att paid service net share and storage.
I must be violation my terms of service every time i use google talk to send a text message since att has a texting plan.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use a non att product or service on my phone if att offers a paid version of that service.
As far as tethering being an "officially separate product" exactly what do I get from att if I pay them for their subscription tethering plan and I have a captivate? I will tell you, I would get nothing, nada, zilch. ATT has no tethering product for the captivate, even though they are more than happy to charge anyone willing to pay for it.

As far as I'm concerned, and I'm not all that concerned, I pay for the phone, the data, and the rest of the services, I shall use them as I want to. Mind you I will be smart about it as I only have a 200MB a month plan, but that's not a lot of usage and would probably never raise a red flag to AT&T.
To tether or not to tether! It's not really a question anymore.

dayv said:
What? If this is true, and by this logic, I must be violating my terms of service every time I use google navigator -- after all att has their own paid subscription for att navigator.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use dropbox since att paid service net share and storage.
I must be violation my terms of service every time i use google talk to send a text message since att has a texting plan.
I must be violating my terms of service every time i use a non att product or service on my phone if att offers a paid version of that service.
As far as tethering being an "officially separate product" exactly what do I get from att if I pay them for their subscription tethering plan and I have a captivate? I will tell you, I would get nothing, nada, zilch. ATT has no tethering product for the captivate, even though they are more than happy to charge anyone willing to pay for it.
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Important distinction being that tethering may be a violation of your services contract. Nothing seems to indicate that "duplicating core functionality" (thanks for the term, Apple) constitutes a violation of AT&T's acceptable use policy.
I just browsed through some of the restrictions listed on AT&T's website. I did see some information about plans that do include tethering, but I did not find an express prohibition of tethering for other plans. Seemed that the tethering plans may have just eased the process. I am personally on an unlimited plan, but since this isn't offered anymore I was not able to find the specific terms of this plan. Can anybody point to an actual paragraph in a terms of use statement or contractual language expressly prohibiting tethering?
Also, has anybody actually been "flagged" for tethering? I'm curious because it seems that warnings abound, but I've yet to see a person actually complain of having been so much as given notice of violation by AT&T.
Thanks. My first post. I like this place.

Help with verizon tethering plan.

Hey guys..I went to the verizon store to get the extended battery for the bionic. While I was there I asked one of the reps about the mobile hotspot and if I would have unlimited data use with it because I have an unlimited data plan (grandfathered) ofcourse. He told me that I would only be able to use 2gb for tethering. Well thats a load of BS. who would really pay for tethering with a 2gb limit? Now I understand that the reps at the verizon store and any store for that matter dont know everything and can sometimes give you very misleading information. This is why I want someone on this forum that really know how this work if I would only get 2gb limit or a limit at all for the $30 tethering option I see on my account option from verizon. thanx!

Watching one movie over Netflix would put you close to 2GB. It's a f*cking joke.

manolith2011 said:
Hey guys..I went to the verizon store to get the extended battery for the bionic. While I was there I asked one of the reps about the mobile hotspot and if I would have unlimited data use with it because I have an unlimited data plan (grandfathered) ofcourse. He told me that I would only be able to use 2gb for tethering. Well thats a load of BS. who would really pay for tethering with a 2gb limit? Now I understand that the reps at the verizon store and any store for that matter dont know everything and can sometimes give you very misleading information. This is why I want someone on this forum that really know how this work if I would only get 2gb limit or a limit at all for the $30 tethering option I see on my account option from verizon. thanx!
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If you have the $30 plan, it's unlimited. I signed up for it on the website. It doesn't say its unlimited, just doesn't say there is a cap on that plan.

cvmaas said:
If you have the $30 plan, it's unlimited. I signed up for it on the website. It doesn't say its unlimited, just doesn't say there is a cap on that plan.
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yes thats the option i see on the website for my account. well thats good to know. i guess that they try to put a smoke screen around it so you dont abuse it.

manolith2011 said:
Hey guys..I went to the verizon store to get the extended battery for the bionic. While I was there I asked one of the reps about the mobile hotspot and if I would have unlimited data use with it because I have an unlimited data plan (grandfathered) ofcourse. He told me that I would only be able to use 2gb for tethering. Well thats a load of BS. who would really pay for tethering with a 2gb limit? Now I understand that the reps at the verizon store and any store for that matter dont know everything and can sometimes give you very misleading information. This is why I want someone on this forum that really know how this work if I would only get 2gb limit or a limit at all for the $30 tethering option I see on my account option from verizon. thanx!
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If you have the grandfathered Unlimited smartphone plan, you can add the $30 4G Hotspot plan and its truely unlimited but no one knows if its throttled or not. One of my co-workers is at 50Gb so far and no decrease in speeds. If you have the new usage based plans starting at $30/2gb then if you add the $20 hotspot w/2Gb, then you have 4Gbs to use via phone or hotspot.

tethering and data

i know my question is likely posted already so if u can provide a link that would be great. my phone is not allowing me to search the forums for anythinf. as soon as i click search and type 1 letter the screen closes so i am sorry in advance.
My issue is i just moved to the UK and there is no such thing as unlimited data. i have a 1 gb plan and already over that in 2 weeks.
we have no wifi at home yet so this is all i have. i tethered with my laptop and i am guessing that is why i am at my usage limit.
i have already limited my email updates from every 5 min to once an hour hoping that will help a bit.
is there a way to tether or use my phone as a hotspot without sending my data plan through the roof?
thanks

johseph said:
My issue is i just moved to the UK and there is no such thing as unlimited data. i have a 1 gb plan and already over that in 2 weeks.
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Errhhh - 3 offer unlimited data on their "One Plan", as do T-Mobile (as of last week) with their "Full Monty" plan. Both of these are truly unlimited with respect to data.
GiffGaff, an O2 MVNO, also offers unlimited data, but tethering isn't permitted.
Regards,
Dave

You can use traffic monitor to limit your daily usage quota, but otherwise you just have to use less demanding stuff datawise eg use the mobile versions of Web pages etc as they're usually leaner. The best would be to get a truly unlimited plan like the ones above. There's nothing inherently using data by tethering. It's all about your usage pattern.
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foxmeister said:
Errhhh - 3 offer unlimited data on their "One Plan", as do T-Mobile (as of last week) with their "Full Monty" plan. Both of these are truly unlimited with respect to data.
GiffGaff, an O2 MVNO, also offers unlimited data, but tethering isn't permitted.
Regards,
Dave
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sadly neither of those carriers have this phone so they are not options

johseph said:
sadly neither of those carriers have this phone so they are not options
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You don't have to buy from a carrier!
http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobile-phones/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-Note/T-Mobile/T-Mobile-36-(24mths)-The-Full-Monty/12790765
You can also just buy the phone outright and get a SIM only plan with Three for £25pm, no contract.
Regards,
Dave

you can thether the phone but then not use the laptop just make a connection, there is no data used for that, once you start browsing you will use data, there is no way around this, you cant magically get internet via the mobile connection and not use data

Mod to unthrottle the throttle?

Would this be possible?

Perhaps a bit more clarity in what you are having an issue with? What throttle is it that you are having applied to your..... service??

Not having an issue, was just wondering if we can hide data usage from Tmobile so that our "unlimited" plan is ACTUALLY unlimited and not throttled when we reach a certain point of data usage (I know they have a 30$ data plan for true unlimited data).

Nope, nothing you can do at all in that case. Even with say, a VPN, data still moves as data (even if they cant see the contents of the packets), and will be counted as such.

I didnt think TMObile did any throttling.
The most I have done on one month was 400GB+ while tethered with the hotspot hack on my Note 4 to my XBox One and PC and Laptop all full speed all month.

hypersonicx said:
I didnt think TMObile did any throttling.
The most I have done on one month was 400GB+ while tethered with the hotspot hack on my Note 4 to my XBox One and PC and Laptop all full speed all month.
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I am pretty sure he is talking about hiding the usage of tethering... You CAN do that with wifi tether Router and it is a working solution for now, but T-Mobile fights it pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJrzgRp4wM This method works 100% 4 me!

Native tethering is wayyyyy better. It toggles a lot faster and shares the full speed connection. The mod is on the forums.
Op is trying to get unlimited 4G data while only paying for 3/5gb etc. If you really need that much the $30 plan is pretty reasonable and you'll be at ~2MB/sec well over 100GB per month.

shojus said:
I am pretty sure he is talking about hiding the usage of tethering... You CAN do that with wifi tether Router and it is a working solution for now, but T-Mobile fights it pretty hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJrzgRp4wM This method works 100% 4 me!
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That's also what I'm talking about. Both the Note 4 and LG G3 have customs Roms where when you enable tethering (stock) tethering, the data counts twords your original unlimited data not twords your hotspot data thus allowing me to do 400GB+ that month.

I think what the OP is trying to ask is how to use his 5GB plan, at full speed, past the 5GB plan. You have unlimited data, but only 5GB at full LTE speed, after that you still have data it is just throttled to 2g speeds. No way around that. You need to upgrade to the $80 plan if you want true, unlimited speed past 5GB.

Best way is to pay for unlimited

Just pay the extra money and don't try to cheat or steal. T-Mobile is pretty reasonable all around.