Hey guys,
Seven2099 just discovered yesterday that frameworks can be swapped without repercussions through the Telstra SBF. This universality of frameworks is a wonderful thing that will benefit developers, MOD creators, and theme creators alike.
I recently promised you all that I would create a Telstra version of my ROM GingerBlur. I will no longer be creating that version due to the fact that the AT&T version should work just fine on the Telstra stock ROM. The last thing I want is a splintered, fragmented international Atrix community.
Universalize!
I ask that developers and MOD creators begin to universalize their works around a common AT&T framework. Since we know the AT&T framework works on international devices post-Telstra-SBF, let's all try to create around that framework! This will open up more possibilities for all of us.
Themers: use GingerBlur!
Themers, I ask that you use a common framework to begin with. Since we know GingerBlur is universally compatible with AT&T phones and post-Telstra-SBF phones, I urge you all to use GingerBlur 3.0 as a base for theming.
GingerBlur 3.0 will be newly re-developed with a framework that can be easily compiled and decompiled.
Any comments, suggestions, or questions are encouraged below!
Thanks,
Kenneth
There has been a couple of good points made below. Remember to flash at your own risk. Only flash if you are not already on AT&T. Just flash if you understand the risks (possible exclusion from official Bell updates, etc).
This is wonderful news! Does this mean I can try out the current version of Gingerblur, or wait until v3.0?
Nevermind, I should've read Seven's thread first lol
let universal bad-ass creations from the community devs begin
IrshaadH said:
This is wonderful news! Does this mean I can try out the current version of Gingerblur, or wait until v3.0?
Nevermind, I should've read Seven's thread first lol
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Yep go ahead and try her out!
kennethpenn said:
[*]Flash the Telstra SBF file!
If you are an end-user, I urge you to flash the Telstra SBF. This will allow you to be a part of our newly forged international community. It will make developing for the framework singularity a more attractive option for developers.
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Kenn should everyone flash the telstra sbf, even the At&t users im not understanding this.
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Kenn should everyone flash the telstra sbf, even the At&t users im not understanding this.
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With that, how about Bell users without an original Bell SBF to revert back to if needed?
I am definitely on board. Just want to make sure im covered.
Btw awesome work on the discovery!
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i don't think it is convenient to urge canadian users to flash the telstra sbf. we don't know the future repercussions, if any, that they could face with it. flashing a different carrier's sbf should be done at their own risk.
we also don't know if future releases from other carriers will be compatible. after all, the at&t sbf doesn't work on the bell version.
let's not jump the gun early.
I also confused if att users should flash the sbf mentioned.
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JayRolla said:
I also confused if att users should flash the sbf mentioned.
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no, there is no need. this post is for international users rather than AT&T users, just asking us to flash to an SBF that is safe with our devices, and at the same time it's compatible with AT&T's frameworks.
While I'm not opposed to flashing the telstra sbf, and i think the benifits of universal themes probably outweigh the risks, i have been playing it cautious until there is clarity that any bell update (including ota) can also be flashed via rsd when they come out...can that be confirmed? If so then there is no risk, if not, we would be at risk of only being able to upgrade telstra veraion when it's out.
Part of this caution is due to the incompatibility of the bell and att sbfs.
Stock Bell Atrix on Rogers with updated radio, Rooted, deodexed, Honeycomb theme, and frozen!
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While I'm not opposed to flashing the telstra sbf, and i think the benifits of universal themes probably outweigh the risks, i have been playing it cautious until there is clarity that any bell update (including ota) can also be flashed via rsd when they come out...can that be confirmed? If so then there is no risk, if not, we would be at risk of only being able to upgrade telstra veraion when it's out.
Part of this caution is due to the incompatibility of the bell and att sbfs.
Stock Bell Atrix on Rogers with updated radio, Rooted, deodexed, Honeycomb theme, and frozen!
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i agree, but if Bell ever does decide to release an OTA chances are an sbf of it that can be flashed will appear (as demonstrated by the 1.8.3 sbf in this very forum)
although i guess we woulda thought the same thing about the stock sbf... so i understand your caution.
I understand the worry about possibly being excluded from updates. That is totally warranted. Flash at your own risk. We've gotten a good load of SBF files in here, and I think we'll be able to pull that off in the future. But, definitely flash at your own risk.
I will, but Op sounded a bit authorititative, just bringing some devils advocate.
Stock Bell Atrix on Rogers with updated radio, Rooted, deodexed, Honeycomb theme, and frozen!
franciscojavierleon said:
i don't think it is convenient to urge canadian users to flash the telstra sbf. we don't know the future repercussions, if any, that they could face with it. flashing a different carrier's sbf should be done at their own risk.
we also don't know if future releases from other carriers will be compatible. after all, the at&t sbf doesn't work on the bell version.
let's not jump the gun early.
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I dont think you understand. At the moment there is absolutely no way to flash back to stock Bell.. so anyone who modifies is potentially un-updateable as you so state. It doesn't matter what you think is safe.. no mattter how many nandroid backups you have of your Bell ROM, once you have modified it there is NO way to go back.
So any hesitation you have is qualmed by the fact that:
Until we get an OTA update we wont have an SBF that's flashable.
What Ken did not state is that Telstra 1.4.2 works on Argentinian and Brazilian phones as well.. This is very common as it takes a lot of resources to make carrier specific and region specific phones. For the most part, Motorola will cater to ATT because its a giant and the main market is the US market but for world markets they are generally kept the same.
This can be said about the SGS series as of recent years.
Therefore it is a wise idea that if you're going to MOD your phone, you understand that there is NO going back. If you reodex STOCK Bell, that is not PROOF that the OTA will work... therefore the only way will be to follow ATT users footsteps. This means:
When OTA is released, someone will have to dump the update and then we will all be able to flash onto it.
I think its very shortsighted to think that you should remain capped and waiting, especially knowing how bad Bell is about releasing updates.
Anyone who lives in Canada should know this....
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I also confused if att users should flash the sbf mentioned.
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To make things REALLY clear.
AT&T users should stay with their own SBFs..
This universality is specific to BELL and World Phone users, (brazil, argentina, australia).
@ Ken,
Please update the OP by stating that this allows the other smaller minority groups (Canada, brazil, argentina, australia) to take advantage of the work being done by the US community. The fact that we can flash your framework on our phones and allow it to function will allow us as a community to close these gaps.
Most people do not understand that themes and mods have to be developed independantly per SBF, per region. This means that Brazilian users would need someone to mod themes for them and those themes would not work for any other regions. The same would apply to all other SKUS.. therefore by Uniting our framework we open the possiblity to allow ALL users to enjoy the majority of the quality content which comes from US ATT users.
Hope that is clear.
raybond25 said:
i agree, but if Bell ever does decide to release an OTA chances are an sbf of it that can be flashed will appear (as demonstrated by the 1.8.3 sbf in this very forum)
although i guess we woulda thought the same thing about the stock sbf... so i understand your caution.
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As it stands you are 100% correct.
There is NO way this can change at the moment as we know the 0.37 SBF was technically ahead of stock ATT but as soon as 1.5.7 hit we were behind in features.
Now the Telstra SBF has come along to amend all these needed updates. HSUPA unlocked, faster SD performance/Performance in general and more importantly the compatibility of the base SBF with ATT framework and more importantly with Ken's work.
I have been discussing this with other Canadian themers, modders as well as with Ken himself. This is why he has come forward with this information to make this a good future for our community.
Soon I will break this process and make it a lot simpler so that people can simply, flash 1.4.2 and then move forward to Ken's unified framework in just 2 steps.
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AT&T users should stay with their own SBFs..
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What about Telstra users who have an AT&T-branded handset?
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What about Telstra users who have an AT&T-branded handset?
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Then you use ATT SBFs only and you're set.
You dont have to do much else but follow the majority of stuff on here.
You can already root, use GingerBlur/GreyBlur
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I dont think you understand. At the moment there is absolutely no way to flash back to stock Bell.. so anyone who modifies is potentially un-updateable as you so state. It doesn't matter what you think is safe.. no mattter how many nandroid backups you have of your Bell ROM, once you have modified it there is NO way to go back.
So any hesitation you have is qualmed by the fact that:
Until we get an OTA update we wont have an SBF that's flashable.
What Ken did not state is that Telstra 1.4.2 works on Argentinian and Brazilian phones as well.. This is very common as it takes a lot of resources to make carrier specific and region specific phones. For the most part, Motorola will cater to ATT because its a giant and the main market is the US market but for world markets they are generally kept the same.
This can be said about the SGS series as of recent years.
Therefore it is a wise idea that if you're going to MOD your phone, you understand that there is NO going back. If you reodex STOCK Bell, that is not PROOF that the OTA will work... therefore the only way will be to follow ATT users footsteps. This means:
When OTA is released, someone will have to dump the update and then we will all be able to flash onto it.
I think its very shortsighted to think that you should remain capped and waiting, especially knowing how bad Bell is about releasing updates.
Anyone who lives in Canada should know this....
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you contradict yourself so many times it's not even funny. to make it short, my opinion is to stick with stock firmware and no mods, just root until bell issues a patch and hoping we can grab the "customer sbf" we just obtained with 1.8.3 on at&t. anything else, you are at risk.
franciscojavierleon said:
you contradict yourself so many times it's not even funny. to make it short, my opinion is to stick with stock firmware and no mods, just root until bell issues a patch and hoping we can grab the "customer sbf" we just obtained with 1.8.3 on at&t. anything else, you are at risk.
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How is he contradicting himself? He made it clear, there's no such thing as restoring to stock on a Bell Atrix at this moment.
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I have been looking for an answer to this and if it has been answered before, point me to the thread.
I'm using a Telus Milestone here in the US with ATT. I have GOT OR 2.01 loaded on my milestone and it's rooted in everything. Now the next step would be to pick a firmware for 2.2.1. However, There is nothing listed for ATT or US at all for that matter.
Should I use Telus's Firmware? And will it still work with ATT? I want to load some custom roms, but I'm a bit stuck. Thanks for any input.
You should use Telus firmware. Or any firmware you like, but flash Telus baseband on top in order to get it working on AT&T
Check in milestone Android development thread, there are few choices available (roms), pick one. There is still no official Froyo rom for Milestone though. Most of the custom roms available are nearly fully functional.
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Thank you very much. I wanted to try it, but I didn't want to guess, be wrong, and be screwed. Thats all I needed!
Does anyone know if AlphaRevX will be available to s-off IS Bell 2.3.3? I tried and it doesn't work.
dragneyez said:
Does anyone know if AlphaRevX will be available to s-off IS Bell 2.3.3? I tried and it doesn't work.
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Please search this forum before posting a question like this. You would have found your answer without having to ask the question.
The reason I opened this thread was to keep ppl updated on maybe when it will be available and if it was being worked on. As far as I know there is only a thread for s-off on bell 2.2......
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The reason I opened this thread was to keep ppl updated on maybe when it will be available and if it was being worked on. As far as I know there is only a thread for s-off on bell 2.2......
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No it does not work unfortunately. Hopefully a fix will be released soon.
Is Alpharev X Plausable for HTC Incredible S Bell 2.28.666.3?
I'd like to ask a slightly different question:
- It appears HTC and/or Bell Canada choose not to unlock their version of the Incredible S.
- It appears HTC and/or Bell Canada seem to have chosen to change their Gingerbread OTA so that the existing Alpharev X no longer works.
Does it follow that Alpharev X can never be made to work? Did they remove the exploit so thoroughly that an XTC clip is the only practical option for S-Off? (I'm guessing that only the Alpharev X authors can answer this question with true authority.)
The reason I ask this question is that I purchased this phone thinking that I'd keep it updated through Bell Canada and eventually install CyanomodGen. However if Bell Canada is locking down the phone more thoroughly that before then I might want to avoid this OTA like the plague. My goal is to understand if the 2.28.666.3 OTA update will ever be useful for those of us who like to toy with our phones and the operating systems therein.
PS: I compare this experience to the HTC Aria on AT&T. When HTC/AT&T released an update for Eclair-to-Froyo they too broke their customers' ability to root. Many people were very disappointed and the general feeling was "we're screwed". I do understand that Alpharev X will unlock the Aria for those unfortunate people who upgraded too quickly, without understanding what they'd lose. Although I myself have not forgiven AT&T for this unfortunate and (probably) avoidable experience.
Is there any way to downgrade from bell 2.3.3 to 2.2.1?
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Is there any way to downgrade from bell 2.3.3 to 2.2.1?
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No not without having S-OFF. Even if you could, the radio image for Gingerbread (2.3.3) is not compatible with Froyo (2.2.1) and once you upgrade to a GB radio you cannot reinstall a Froyo radio. So it is a double-whammy.
Stupid updates. Guess we will have to wait patiently......
Does anyone know if AlphaRev X Team is working on bell 2.3.3 GB?
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Does anyone know if AlphaRev X Team is working on bell 2.3.3 GB?
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The AlphaRevX team has been keeping the HTC Android community updated about it's progress via Twitter, not by posting in all of the different HTC forums here. The only time they have made posts in the individual HTC forums has been when they had something ready to test and were soliciting users to test.
I suspect that the GB fix will be no different once a dependable root exploit is discovered. As a matter of fact, I just checked their latest tweet and this is what I found:
http://revolutionary.io/
Since the AlphaRevX team is based in the Netherlands, I doubt if they can even get a Bell IncS to test with. Any development on the IncS will more than likely be on an unbranded version.
tpbklake said:
The AlphaRevX team has been keeping the HTC Android community updated about it's progress via Twitter, not by posting in all of the different HTC forums here. The only time they have made posts in the individual HTC forums has been when they had something ready to test and were soliciting users to test.
I suspect that the GB fix will be no different once a dependable root exploit is discovered. As a matter of fact, I just checked their latest tweet and this is what I found:
http://revolutionary.io/
Since the AlphaRevX team is based in the Netherlands, I doubt if they can even get a Bell IncS to test with. Any development on the IncS will more than likely be on an unbranded version.
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OK guys, the site is now live and has software available to download and try.
Failed to get root...
Failed to get root...
20.2805.30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M
Kernel version
2.6.35.9-g529446e
[email protected]#1
Fri Apr 22 20:35:15 CST 2011
Build Number
2.12.707.5 CL37872 release-keys
Sowftware number
2.12.707.5
WebKit/533.1
Please help me...
Thanks for the info
mxfxi said:
Failed to get root...
20.2805.30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M
Kernel version
2.6.35.9-g529446e
[email protected]#1
Fri Apr 22 20:35:15 CST 2011
Build Number
2.12.707.5 CL37872 release-keys
Sowftware number
2.12.707.5
WebKit/533.1
Please help me...
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You have posted on the wrong thread. This thread was specifically about the Bell Mobile version. What you need to do is create a goldcard and flash the WWE 2.12.405.7 version and then you can run AlphaRevX.
Failed to get root, bell GB
Tried multiple times and still no root.
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Tried multiple times and still no root.
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OK, so there are 2 possibilities.
1. The new root exploit that they discovered was only implemented on the Sensation and EVO 3D (new devices supported) and the new exploit have not been implemented on the other devices yet.
2. The new root exploit only works on the Sensation and EVO 3D.
Hopefully it is the first option and it will only be a matter of time before the other GB devices are update, too.
I sure hope so. Bad mistake to update. I didn't think it would kick me in the ass.... I was s-off and rooted before the update..... I don't understand what these companies have against computer geniuses, that take time to produce OS's for our phones that we paid for. Its not like we're stealing from the companies. They really break me..
dragneyez said:
I sure hope so. Bad mistake to update. I didn't think it would kick me in the ass.... I was s-off and rooted before the update..... I don't understand what these companies have against computer geniuses, that take time to produce OS's for our phones that we paid for. Its not like we're stealing from the companies. They really break me..
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1. Carriers/networks put pressure on phone makers to lock down their phones so people can't remove the bloatware that often comes with stock ROMs, which make money for the carriers/networks.
2. The more people you allow to root phones, the more people will brick them and then try to make a warranty claim. That's hassle the manufacturers don't want.
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1. Carriers/networks put pressure on phone makers to lock down their phones so people can't remove the bloatware that often comes with stock ROMs, which make money for the carriers/networks.
2. The more people you allow to root phones, the more people will brick them and then try to make a warranty claim. That's hassle the manufacturers don't want.
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Yup, it's all about the money.
Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
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Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
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I would suggest unlocking the boot loader, flashing either cwm or twrp recovery and finally flashing superuser. Keep in mind that unlocking the bootlaoder will void your warranty.
The benefit to this route is you will maintain root access, also you can easily flash Roms without the problems that cone along with pwnymymoto and safestrap.
Cm10.2 is around the corner and there's already a T-Mobile ROM that has the camera update included
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sogrady said:
Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device?
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I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
aduane said:
I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
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don't think there is a dev edition rom to my knowledge. I haven't really read much about people saying the dev editions had anything different besides and unlockable bootloader which you don't have so you will only be able to flash roms through Safestrap if you haven't taken any OTA's yet.
While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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There is a Dev Edition ROM and it is the exact same ROM as the T-Mobile ROM which is the only Retail ROM.
Are people still working on cracking the AT&T G870A or is it a lost cause?
If yes, how's it going?
I had a G870F but sent it swimming on 20m deep for three weeks. Needless to say it didn't survive.
Found the G870A and thought it was a bargain, however . . .
Pretty much a lost cause, most devs have moved on.
So the answer is not so straight forward. The current v 5.1 and above for the AT&T phones are not currently rootable. If you find a used or remanufactured S5 or S5 Active with 4.2 you will be in luck. I just had a problem with my Active found a replacement on the most popular buying and selling web site for around $230. Just make sure it has not been updated. If the seller is advertising it as 4.2 and you get it with 5.0 they must take it back if it's not what was advertised. Hope this helps.
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
darthmalus said:
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
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Thanks, but I have bought the phone already. If I get another one or replace the one I have it'll probably be a European, G870F, the same modell I had before.
dosmastr said:
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
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You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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Sgt.CM said:
You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
dosmastr said:
so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
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When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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stew1411 said:
When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
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Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
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Well it's soldered to the board. You would need some highly specialized equipment to do it. Even then I'm not sure.
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Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
Both are locked down. AT&T and Samsung are being jerks to us and not even letting us have a developer phone to try to use like Verizon had.
roserez said:
Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
FrozenClear said:
Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
NavSad said:
Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
FrozenClear said:
That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
NavSad said:
Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
FrozenClear said:
So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
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You can look in Galaxy S5 Android Development.
Well, It appears we wont be able to flash the international ROM. I assume this means there are some kind of optimizations on the T-Mobile version that we wont get on the international.
This really is a shame, i'd like to have dual sim + faster updates. But i need better support for my carrier (T-mobile) as i have enough issues Signal issues and MMS not working over wifi on my 3t, while my other unlocked phones Motorala x4, Samsung s8+ work without issue.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/steps-forward-oneplus-6t-and-t-mobile-partnership.933398/#post-19389653
Flashing the international ROM is not possible for the T-Mobile device. Other custom ROMs are possible, the T-Mobile OnePlus 6T has a specific modem signature that cannot be modified. - Kameron S.
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additionallly...
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/steps-forward-oneplus-6t-and-t-mobile-partnership.933398/page-3#post-19397080
Kameron S, 22 minutes ago :
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I'm planning to buy the TMo version and trade my original OPO for the $300 credit. Pay it in full, wait 40 days and request SIM and boot unlock. Then go to the official or beta branches of the OxygenOS and receive all OTA directly. I hope this can be done.
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No Beta versions because the bootloader is initially locked, or no Beta versions at all ever on the t-mo version?
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Is this "specific modem signature" the optimizations for the T-Mobile network that have been mentioned? And what exactly are the optimizations?
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Thanks!
I reached out to a few staff members and got the answer that the TMO hardware will not be able to receive direct updates, this puts it out for Beta at this time.
The truly detailed optimizations I cannot speak to, I do know they went with a specific variant that works best with their network.
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We'll see about that.
If the best we end up after unlocking the bootloader are frankenstein firmwares, so be it. Or wait for the rumors of a 845-wide PBL exploit.
Give it some time. Any customizations, such as the T-mo modem, will be pulled and released. It shouldn't be too long before we can flash an international rom and the T-mo modem. I wish we could find out more about the other customizations, though. For all we know there are significant changes to system RPC or kernel
We won't know any of these specifics till we can root the tmo variant and start pulling things more system level things.. shouldn't be too long now tho just gotta wait on OnePlus to send out the unlock.bin files.
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Give it some time. Any customizations, such as the T-mo modem, will be pulled and released. It shouldn't be too long before we can flash an international rom and the T-mo modem. I wish we could find out more about the other customizations, though. For all we know there are significant changes to system RPC or kernel
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Looks like kameron was proved wrong
Please close this thread as it is incorrect and misinformed.
Guide to flashing international 5.0.5 located here;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...lashing-t-mobile-oneplus-6t-to-t3865966/page2
As mentioned above, please use this thread to continue discussion.
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