hello there!
i pretend to buy a hd7 front tmobile in ebay, but i want to know if it use 3g in 850m z band
in gsmarea say that have it but in t mobile version rellay dont know
regards
According to HTC's Website, the T-Mobile HD7 has the 1700/2100 MHz 3G frequencies. The AT&T version when it comes out (HD7S) should have the 850 MHz frequency you need as according to HTC's site, the surround they have uses 2100/1900/850 so it is plausible the HD7S will have the same specs.
i have a new hd7s branded att how can i unlock it to use my tmobile sim and would i still get the same network speed etc
ssomzzz said:
i have a new hd7s branded att how can i unlock it to use my tmobile sim and would i still get the same network speed etc
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You wouldn't get 3G speeds. T-Mobile needs 1700/2100MHz. HD7S has 850/1900.
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Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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trippster said:
Hi everyone--
I have an unmodded, "unlocked" at&t tilt that has a t-mobile gsm sim chip in it. I'm still running the WM6 that came in it, and can't seem to get access to the 3G speeds I know this thing is capable of. I've tried numerous software apps to "force" the phone to go 3G, to no avail. T-Mobile customer "support"--HAA! tells me I need a t-mobile phone to be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds. Needles to say, I feel this is a bunch of malarkey. T-Mobile put out this phone, did they not, and called it the "MDA Vario III"? Is there a rom for the mda that I could flash this thing with so I could get the 3G speeds? Or another rom perhaps? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks!
tripp
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Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
The T-Mobile you refer to is European
It does not run on the same 3G as the US T-Mobile. The US T-Mobile uses 1700 Mhz and 2100 Mhz, I believe. The Tilt does not use the 1700 Mhz band. There was a rumor going around that there would be a new version of the Kaiser (KAIS140) that would use the US T-Mobile 3G bands but it was never released for sale. I don't think it will since it is pretty much at the end of the life cycle of the phone. They (HTC) have moved on to newer models with more features. If you would like to use the US 3G and live in an area with 3G, The T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream) uses T-Mo 3G and has its own section on this forum.
bleh. newer models should still freaking tilt. that is the coolest thing about this phone. and it's pretty solid construction. my friend has had his over a year and its still going strong.
dashmaster1000 said:
Unfortunately, the malarkey is the truth! Because T-Mobile runs its 3G network on a different band than the Tilt is capable of! Sorry, this also effects me as I am a T-Mobile customer using a Tilt as well! My advice is to use Opera mini 4.2 for your internet browsing it is very fast on the Edge network!
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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I thought the Tilt accessed 3G through it's tri band frequencies 850/1900/2100Mhz so that it could connect to most 3G networks worldwide, making it a world business tool for users?
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True but T-Mobile uses the 1700 for upload and 2100 for download. ATT uses 1900 for both.
Hi,is there any way I can get my Blackstone (htc Touch HD) to pick up the 3G network for T-Mobile in the US???
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Hi,is there any way I can get my Blackstone (htc Touch HD) to pick up the 3G network for T-Mobile in the US???
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i'm not for sure, but, i don't believe you will. if i recall, T-Mo USA uses the 1700/2100 bands. by the way, which HD model do you have: the T8282 or the T8285?
I have the T8282 model
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I have the T8282 model
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so have you tried your phone with a T-Mo 3G sim? i recall reading that T-Mo must grant 3G access to 3G subscribers (certainly could have misinterpreted what i read). it's my understanding that both the T8285 and T8282 models have active 2100 bands. this being the case, you'd think one could at least get 3G service on the 2100 band.
No T-mobile 3g
Both models do not support USA 3g T-mobile.
OK Thanks, I was hoping someone on here cooked up somrthing to make it work.
Unfortunately not.
Query answered, thread closed
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?
why do you want to ruin his experience since apparently he hasn't noticed yet ...
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why do you want to ruin his experience since apparently he hasn't noticed yet ...
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lol (10 chara)
tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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How did you get the unlock code so fast?
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Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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So exchange works no problem. How about data connection to the Internet ans speed?
tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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Oh and the tmobile store today told me unless i was a customer they couldnt sell it to me? $449
Biggzz said:
Oh and the tmobile store today told me unless i was a customer they couldnt sell it to me? $449
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Course they said that. They want the money from the contract/upgrade. Call up corporate and let them know the store would not sell you a phone. There are no restrictions on phones being sold outright, but sometimes, because these stores are not corporate stores, they can enforce their own rules, but reporting them can sometimes make them change their mind.
vikramdhani said:
Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?
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how SLOW is edge? Is like like a very bad wifi connection? Hehehe... No really, I want to know.
No smartphone is worth the pain of Edge!
I don't know about at&t, but with t-mobile, edge is like not having an internet connection. About 100 kbps and alot of auto updates time out.
Does AT&T 3G require a special frequency that isn't covered by Quad Band? Or is it that T-Mobile 3G has a special, non Quad Band frequency?
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Does AT&T 3G require a special frequency that isn't covered by Quad Band? Or is it that T-Mobile 3G has a special, non Quad Band frequency?
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there are two band sets for gsm phones, GPRS/EDGE and UMTS:3G/3G+/3.5G/HSDPA/HUDPA (sometimes these abbreviations are used individually to denote 3G service. This is not correct as they all mean a different type of 3G, the most generic term is UMTS).
Sometimes HTC phones have different band sets for different countries.
HTC HD7 Europe:
* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HTC HD7 T-mobile USA Version:
* UMTS 2100MHz AWS1700/2100MHz
* GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
For GSM there is no issue, 850 & 1900 are USA, 900 & 1900 are EU, but all the phones cover everything:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
In the USA, UMTS 3G for tmobile is on AWS 1700/2100 only
In the USA other providers use 850 with some using 1900
For example, the HTC Surround on AT&T uses:
* UMTS 2100/1900/850
* GSM GPRS EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
In conclusion:
1. Buying a tmobile HTC in the USA means you can only get 3G signal when using the tmobile network. When travelling abroad you might be able to use 3G, dependent on country.
2. Buying a AT&T HTC in the USA means you can only get 3G signal in the US when using the AT&T network but not on tmobile 3G. When travelling abroad you might be able to use 3G, dependent on country.
3. Buying an HTC HD7 from europe will be able to use neither the tmobile or AT&T network's 3G signal (as AWS 1700/2100mhz is different from normal 2100mhz)
Interestingly, what you may have noticed is that the 2100 3G band is common to all phones, this is also the most widely used 3G band in the world.
Therefore all these phones are fine with 3G everywhere in the world except the USA where the 2 leading GSM networks do not, for some reason, use the 2100mhz band as duplex *
* common question, how is UMTS 2100mhz different from UMTS AWS 2100mhz?
Simple, normal 3G UMTS 2100mhz is duplex (i.e. up and down link use the same frequency). In AWS, the up and downlink use different frequencies, AWS 1700/2100mhz means that tmobile uses 1710-1755 Mhz down & 2110-2155 MHz Up.
Only two networks in the world use AWS, tmobile in the USA and WIND in Canada.
in the rest of the world, where tmobile has a presense, it uses the "normal" 2100 3G band!
Wow, thanks very much colonel, that's an excellent explanation!!
So the T-Mobile HD7 is basically the Europe version with an additional radio (or whatever) to connect to the T-Mobile 3G network?
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Wow, thanks very much colonel, that's an excellent explanation!!
So the T-Mobile HD7 is basically the Europe version with an additional radio (or whatever) to connect to the T-Mobile 3G network?
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it has AWS 1700/2100mhz instead of the EU 900mhz
it retains the normal 2100mhz, although this is useless in the USA
rgds
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it has AWS 1700/2100mhz instead of the EU 900mhz
it retains the normal 2100mhz, although this is useless in the USA
rgds
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Excellent, thanks for the clarification!
It seems that in South Africa all 3G goes over the 2.1GHz frequency but some operators are starting with 900MHz so all will be fine.
Can't wait to get one now!
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Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?
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Because its the carrier my work pays for Im mostly connected via Wi-Fi anyway.
T.J.
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How did you get the unlock code so fast?
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http://www.HTCimeiUnlock.com/
Had the code in 10 minutes. Was $25 because of the new device I assume, they advertise 15.
T.J.
I'm considering whether to buy an T-Mobile version and unlock it or a "Officially Unlocked" version on HTC's official website. I have found two differences so far.
(1) The first is that T-Mobile version seems to support more 3G networks while Unlocked supports more 4G networks.
Here is something from HTC official website.
Unlocked version
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
T-Mobile version
3G - UMTS/ HSPA: 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
4G - LTE: 700 MHz and AWS band
AT&T version
3G - UMTS/ HSPA: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 21 Mbps
4G - LTE: 700 MHz and AWS band
So does it mean that both Unlocked and TM versions can completely support AT&T network, TM version can completely support TM network (of course), and Unlocked version partly supports TM network (no 3G AWS support). Am I right?
(2) The second is about S-OFF. Neither Revolutionary nor Moonshine mentions the Unlocked version, but they both support TM version.
PS: Can I use more frequency bands by flashing something into an S-OFF HTC One?
If you're going to use it on T-Mobile, why not just buy the T-Mobile version? The unlocked version doesn't have support for AWS bands.
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If you're going to use it on T-Mobile, why not just buy the T-Mobile version? The unlocked version doesn't have support for AWS bands.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
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I'm not quite sure which operator will I use.
if your in the USA the tmobile version will probably serve you the best since it can pick up pretty much every companies 3g and 4g signal without problems. tmobile or ATT.
there is currently no way to flash a radio to support other bands not sure if this is even possible currently
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if your in the USA the tmobile version will probably serve you the best since it can pick up pretty much every companies 3g and 4g signal without problems. tmobile or ATT.
there is currently no way to flash a radio to support other bands not sure if this is even possible currently
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I am on a TMobile branded phone, which I unlocked to use with my AT&T account, on which I previously had an iPhone 4S. I've been having some issues getting on LTE so far. I did talk to AT&T several times to make sure that the One was provisioned on my account, and the account was changed to a "4G LTE" data account. I've driven all over the downtown Los Angeles area (downtown, Chinatown, Dodger Stadium, Commerce, and Hollywood) and have yet to see LTE when I'm on AT&T. I get it fine on Tmobile (I picked up a pre-paid Tmob SIM.) I've tried several different APNs (wap.cingular, phone, and pta (which doesn't even connect)). As of right now, I'm a bit stumped as to where the issue might be (it presents itself in Sense, Android Revolution, and Google Edition ROMs). I may just buy an HTC One from AT&T and will put my SIM card in it to see if I get LTE on there, and then return it.
My belief, and what just about everyone has said, is that the TMob phone should be able to get on AT&T's LTE. For whatever reason, and I can't quite lay blame anywhere yet (I'm new to Android, so it could very well be I'm not getting something), it's not working.
Hello everyone,
I have a question I am hoping can be answered.
I used to own an HTC Dinc with that device I was able to watch YouTube no problem, however I can't watch any videos at all with this new phone.
I am thinking it's just slow connectivity*this is prolly it* but what's so different with my old phone to this?
My local carrier sells this particular model so I bought it second hand, it's a great device don't get me wrong but this one thing is killing it for me.
Is there a way to bring it back to the carrier and have them set it up to use the data like on my Dinc or am I just stuck with crappy connection?
Now with that all said, my local carrier markets 4G LTE but it has only one device which is an LG AS840, I actually asked if I can implement this to my One. They said they can't, I am wondering why wouldn't it work? Is it because the frequencies don't correspond with each other? Or am I missing something entirely?
All I want to do is be able to watch videos when I am not using WiFi*no internet at home atm, I have WiFi at work though*.
Another thing to add as well is, my girlfriend has an S3 which is AT&T branded, well to say it frankly her phone has much better connection than my One. I am also wondering about SIM unlocking, if I SIM unlock will I be able to use a SIM card from her carrier? Currently the carrier she uses is DoCoMo Pacific which uses AT&T branded devices while mine uses Sprint.
If anyone can enlighten me on this subject or even shoot down all my hopes I would appreciate it!!
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Hello everyone,
I have a question I am hoping can be answered.
I used to own an HTC Dinc with that device I was able to watch YouTube no problem, however I can't watch any videos at all with this new phone.
I am thinking it's just slow connectivity*this is prolly it* but what's so different with my old phone to this?
My local carrier sells this particular model so I bought it second hand, it's a great device don't get me wrong but this one thing is killing it for me.
Is there a way to bring it back to the carrier and have them set it up to use the data like on my Dinc or am I just stuck with crappy connection?
Now with that all said, my local carrier markets 4G LTE but it has only one device which is an LG AS840, I actually asked if I can implement this to my One. They said they can't, I am wondering why wouldn't it work? Is it because the frequencies don't correspond with each other? Or am I missing something entirely?
All I want to do is be able to watch videos when I am not using WiFi*no internet at home atm, I have WiFi at work though*.
Another thing to add as well is, my girlfriend has an S3 which is AT&T branded, well to say it frankly her phone has much better connection than my One. I am also wondering about SIM unlocking, if I SIM unlock will I be able to use a SIM card from her carrier? Currently the carrier she uses is DoCoMo Pacific which uses AT&T branded devices while mine uses Sprint.
If anyone can enlighten me on this subject or even shoot down all my hopes I would appreciate it!!
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Who is your carrier, specifically? If your girlfriend is on DoCoMo Pacific, I’m guessing you live in Guam. The Sprint One can only use LTE on the 1900 MHz G-block (Band 25). Currently, I believe that Sprint is the only carrier in the world that uses that frequency/block, meaning the Sprint One will only be able to use Sprint’s LTE network. Since this is part of the physical design of the radio/antenna, it cannot be changed.
Here is the full list of frequencies that the Sprint One can access:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/HSPA: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA: 800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE: Sprint: 1900 MHz
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In order to access the UMTS/HSPA bands, you would have to SIM-unlock. You would have to find out if there’s a carrier in Guam that transmits on those 3G frequencies (1900/2100 MHz) if you want to do things like stream video because the 2G/2.5G is very likely not fast enough.
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Who is your carrier, specifically? If your girlfriend is on DoCoMo Pacific, I’m guessing you live in Guam. The Sprint One can only use LTE on the 1900 MHz G-block (Band 25). Currently, I believe that Sprint is the only carrier in the world that uses that frequency/block, meaning the Sprint One will only be able to use Sprint’s LTE network. Since this is part of the physical design of the radio/antenna, it cannot be changed.
Here is the full list of frequencies that the Sprint One can access:
(Source)
In order to access the UMTS/HSPA bands, you would have to SIM-unlock. You would have to find out if there’s a carrier in Guam that transmits on those 3G frequencies (1900/2100 MHz) if you want to do things like stream video because the 2G/2.5G is very likely not fast enough.
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My carrier is IT&E.
So doing a SIM unlock will help me at least switch to a different carrier, I was actually thinking about doing it just to switch. But as I was reading the various SIM unlock threads here, it's still pretty sketchy.
How about that LG AS840 using LTE on my carrier, or should I throw that thought out the window?
I will look around and see what kind of prices the carrier's offer, I dont want to be on contract so maybe prepaid is the way to go*I'm actually off contract but still pay my contracted amount.
This device is exceptional but the data speeds here locally suck.