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[Q] Does ROM Manager back up the ENTIRE phone?

Silly noob-like question, but I wanted to make sure before I continued messing with my phone.
Does ROM Manager back up EVERYTHING on the phone? For example, I backup my rom. Move the backup file onto my pc. Then I screw around with roms, lag fixes, etc. and totally screw it up. If I "restore" the backup made by ROM Manager, will all my apps, settings, desktop, data files, etc be exactly as they were before I started screwing around?
Or, would I need to use Odin to load the same ROM as that which was backed up and then run Rom Manager Restore?
Thanks!

Yes it does
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Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.

Deca4 said:
Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
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Actually I am trying to figure out the same thing. I made a backup before I started messing around with lag fixes, different roms and so forth. Then the other day I tried to restore a rom it didn't work. Eventually I soft bricked the phone and had to make the USB Jig to get it working again. Needless to say I am very intrigued with what exactly Rom Manager does backup and its limitations but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I am thinking the reason my backup was screwed up was because of a lag fix, only problem is I can't remember what lag fix I had on it when I did the initial recovery.

Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.

diablo009 said:
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
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Interesting, it would makes sense in what you are saying. My error that I go was when I went from my original JH7 backup, installed a rom based on JH6 and then tried to install my original backup. I might have to try JH6 roms and see if I can restore to them easily or not. I will have to wait for Micro USB cables to come in as I don't have a spare since I used my only cable to make the JIG.

The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.

I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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peachpuff said:
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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This is what I have read about it as well

Voodoo
There is also a different version of CWM Recovery (what Rom Manager uses to back things up) for the voodoo lag fix.

tnerb123 said:
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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It works. I backed up and restored a few variants of Froyo ROMs.

peachpuff said:
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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How do I backup these? Is there any way?

If Ron Manager does backup the kernel and modem why would so many people have problems restoring back to different Roms? This is why I am so puzzled with this software.
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Rom Manager can backup EFS folder ??
i lost my imei and the only backup that i have its from Ron Manager

Absolutely it does there!

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but best bet is backup from recovery. Saves everything down to browser login data. Can't go wrong with a full backup! I make one every time I flash just about anything.
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Rom Manager vs CWM Recovery
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:

dobi3 said:
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
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Agreed!
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Android Markey Froyo 2.2 Problems

I have been trying to resolve this issue for a day now. I flashed to 2.2 Froyo, unlocked and rooted my Stock Rogers Samsung Captivate. Everything is working fine, I started downloaded all my favourite apps back when I had stock firmware. A few hours into using my phone, I noticed apps that I used to be able to find weren't showing up. I am not sure if it is related, but I noticed this after removing bloatware with titanium backup.
I installed following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861103
After searching forums for hours, the solution seemed simple, modifying a line of code in the build.prop file and overwriting the old one. I have tried this one:
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/231334:user/release-keys
with no luck. I decided to reflash the 2.2 rom as I assumed removing the bloat ware was the cause, but I am still having the same market issues.
I am not sure where to go from here, did anyone experience similar problems? Any possible solutions? I really want DBZ scouter back

snakemanuver said:
I have been trying to resolve this issue for a day now. I flashed to 2.2 Froyo, unlocked and rooted my Stock Rogers Samsung Captivate. Everything is working fine, I started downloaded all my favourite apps back when I had stock firmware. A few hours into using my phone, I noticed apps that I used to be able to find weren't showing up. I am not sure if it is related, but I noticed this after removing bloatware with titanium backup.
I installed following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861103
After searching forums for hours, the solution seemed simple, modifying a line of code in the build.prop file and overwriting the old one. I have tried this one:
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/231334:user/release-keys
with no luck. I decided to reflash the 2.2 rom as I assumed removing the bloat ware was the cause, but I am still having the same market issues.
I am not sure where to go from here, did anyone experience similar problems? Any possible solutions? I really want DBZ scouter back
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i had the same problem when i first flashed the stock froyo. went away after i started using cognition and axura.

I will give Cognition a try and report back.

nephets0 said:
i had the same problem when i first flashed the stock froyo. went away after i started using cognition and axura.
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I got the Cognition files and the Odin standalone, but I'm confused as to where to get the other files
• PIT.pit
• PDA.tar
• PHONE.tar
• CSC.tar
I can't find the download link on the thread

snakemanuver said:
I will give Cognition a try and report back.
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Cognition has had this since the first release

Im trying to find the Cognition Odin install but its not on the site, the site only has the ROM files. I would ideally want to install with rom manage as it would be a lot easier but my market is so messed up its not even showing up when i search it.

snakemanuver said:
Im trying to find the Cognition Odin install but its not on the site, the site only has the ROM files. I would ideally want to install with rom manage as it would be a lot easier but my market is so messed up its not even showing up when i search it.
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you dont need to install rom manager
put the update.zip on your sdcard and reboot to recovery....
reinstall packages (it will reboot, just reinstall packages again)
you will now be in clockwork
install zip from sdcard, and point to the rom

Pirateghost said:
you dont need to install rom manager
put the update.zip on your sdcard and reboot to recovery....
reinstall packages (it will reboot, just reinstall packages again)
you will now be in clockwork
install zip from sdcard, and point to the rom
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Thank you so much for the zip file, everything went smoothly. I liked the voice telling me how much time each process would take. However, when I searched the app store for DBZ scouter it still cant find it, or any other paid apps! This is getting really frustrating. Should I give it a few minutes/hours for the paids apps to show up? I am enjoying the rom though, very smooth compared to the stock ones.

It looks like I'm not the only one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878291&page=3
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=55c997eccabf0a6a&hl=en
I guess it was just a coincidence that this happened the same time I unlocked my phone.. heh. Well now I can finally go back to studying for exams

Moved to Q&A.

[Q] Have Cog 3.02, want 3.04...

I'd like to flash to Cog 3.04 directly if possible without Odin'ing back to 2.1. Is it ok to flash directly to 3.04 and if so, what the best way to wipe everything first to start form as blank a state as possible? I'm without a windows PC right now...
Thanks!

hate to bump but if anyone can provide a quick answer... thx.

I flashed 3.04 over 2b8 without any problem.....

You can try that but no guarantee that it will work.you may run into problems and have to flash back to odin then you will be sol with out a computer
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You should be fine flashing from one version to another. If you enabled lagfix I'd disable that first, and to be on the safe side do a CWM backup, but other than that you should be fine. I've been flashing another ROM back and forth without going stock many times without issue.

You can go and flash custom ROMs on top of each other and it might work, but don't be surprised if you boot into Cog 3.04 and have to deal with a bunch of force closes or other weird behavior.
I ALWAYS recommend people flash back to stock and Master Clear/GSM Master Reset. That gives you a blank slate to work with. It takes less than 10 minutes, but some just believe that's too much work/time for them.
Your call.

I've never had an issue flashing updates on top of Cognition. I'm pretty sure as long as your lag fix is the same between versions then there should not be any problems.

I flashed serendipity 5.0 over 4.3 last night with no problems. I just disabled lagfix before I did.
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Thanks everyone for your helpful input.
Is it possible to master clear without going back to stock? I'd like for everything except the external sdcard to be cleared.

[Q] "Application is not installed on your phone" Error

Hi all,
I've done a search on this (both XDA-wide, and Google) and no-one seems to have a valid answer for me yet.
I am running Gingerbread (PDA = XWJVB, Phone = XXJVK, CSC = XAJVK) via a Doc's beta RomKitchen build. I am aware that I am running a beta and things can get a bit hairy, but this problem is really annoying.
Basically after the rom flash, I went and got Titanium Backup working again, and started restoring my favourite apps and widgets. All worked fine, then I had to do a reboot for some reason. All the restored apps are still in the apps folder , but greyed out and with an SD-card image overlaid to tell me they are on the SDCard. They ALL no longer work but give the "application is not installed on your phone" error, which is annoying, because before the reboot, they all worked.
I have tried twice to restore them from Titanium backup, and each time they only work until the next reboot breaks them, meaning the only apps I get to keep are the system apps and the ones I cooked into the Rom.
Anyone have any ideas?

Anyone at all?

Hi, I had a similar problem, with one difference: it started after a while. I had Doc's JVK installed, I restored my apps with Titanium Backup and it worked flawlessly for a while. At some point I noticed that the apps installed recently would disappear after a reboot. The worst thing is that even the market disappeared at some point.
To solve the problem, I flashed several times a WIPE version of Doc's rom along with several wipes from recovery. It didn't work right away and it took me several reflashes.
No problems since then.
Cheers

Thanks for that.
After much reading, I reckoned it was probably the Fugu kernel doing most of the damage, so I flashed a Chainfire XWJVB kernel, then a recooked Doc rom without the Fugu kernel. Lubberly Jubberly now

[Q] another which rom thread

hello
im on 2.3.6 now and fancy a change because when i click phone or messages it keeps closing and its starting to do my head in.
which rom should i go for?
could you guys point me in the direction of a good guide were i can flash with odin.
iv flashed both my phones a few times but im still a noob
thanks guys/girls

CyanogenMod (7) was fairly simple to flash and it was my first rom on the phone. I'm currently on Team ICSSGS' rom -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398223
The latest release was pulled pending wifi fixes, but I'm using it and it's working great for me.
Just need to be rooted and running CWM to flash it.

was looking at that before
ill wait till they fix it and put it back up
how do i flash it.
i dont have a clue i only know how to use odin. and to be honest i think my 3 year old son could work it lol

does anyone know a good rom that i can flash with odin no messingvaround that looks something like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460786&highlight=2+3+6
just looking for something a little different but stalble as well

I think for the majority of the roms now you need to be rooted and have CWM installed. CM7 is a very nice rom, and not hard to install. It runs 2.3.7 iirc, and worked great for me.
Wiki for installing:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S:_Full_Update_Guide

i flashed my phone with another rom but didnt like it so i flashed it back to the value pack 2.3.6 jvu and then rooted it with this http://www.androidauthority.com/root-galaxy-s-gt-i9000-android-2-3-6-xxjvu-48441/
but i cant uninstall all the stock apps with super manager app. last time i flashed it i could do it. but didnt use that guild and cant find it now.
so as its not rooted i cant flash with the one you have mentioned
is jvz better?

I never ran 2.3.6, I went right from a stock update at 2.3.1 (iirc) to the 2.3.7 in CM7. You should just install CWM using Odin, do a full backup using Titanium Backup and a Nandroid backup in CWM. Then flash anything you want to try.
Also, for backing up contacts, I've read not to use Titanium, use an SMS/Contacts Backup... Titanium has worked for me though.

Not bothered about backing my stuff up. only need my contacts there on kies
might try a flash with clocks recovery when i get home.
i like the rom im on but i doont have full root access as i cant delete atock apps like i could before. i need to delete them to change file format to exr4. says i dont have room if i don't delete them

I all ready have cwm so do.i.just download the cm7 zip file and extract it on my internal memory card then reboot into cwm and flash

Oops double post

Flashed it but it runs really really skow looks good tho.
search continues ha ha

Kies still connects to your phone with custom roms and such? I was lucky if it worked with the stock firmwares.
Did you do a full data wipe? CM7 ran pretty quick on my phone. Maybe try SetCPU to speed things up a little.
Titanium with root access can remove stock apps too.

ye i did a full wipe.
i tried clocking it to 1200 and still ran slow.
ICS ran a little slow as well.
flashed a few now with cwm getting quite addictive.
would like to try a few more but mega uploads comes up with some security thing saying its been removed blah blah blah

MegaUpload was shut down a little while ago now. Should be lots of Roms listed in the forums here, with active downloads I would hope.