So this may be a dumb question but what are the advantages and disadvantages of checking the "lock home in memory" box in the Cyanogen performance settings?
I'm not an Android expert, but from my understanding of it ...
Personally, I'd keep Home locked in memory on the Nook.
On older devices with low memory, you'd want every bit of it free for running applications.
Let's say you had 24 MB of free and usable memory, and your Home was taking up 6 MB. If your system claimed that, that is like getting a quick 25% boost to memory.
However, hitting the Home button would cause the Desktop to take longer to display, as it now had to fight to get some memory back just to load back up.
Keeping Home locked in memory means that it will not give up what it has allocated, so that you can always quickly switch back to it. Since the Nook has 512MB of RAM, I've usually seen something like 180-380 MB free on mine at all times, so I don't worry about releasing the tiny chunk Home claims.
Someone, *please* correct me if I am wrong.
BitingChaos said:
I'm not an Android expert, but from my understanding of it ...
Personally, I'd keep Home locked in memory on the Nook.
On older devices with low memory, you'd want every bit of it free for running applications.
Let's say you had 24 MB of free and usable memory, and your Home was taking up 6 MB. If your system claimed that, that is like getting a quick 25% boost to memory.
However, hitting the Home button would cause the Desktop to take longer to display, as it now had to fight to get some memory back just to load back up.
Keeping Home locked in memory means that it will not give up what it has allocated, so that you can always quickly switch back to it. Since the Nook has 512MB of RAM, I've usually seen something like 180-380 MB free on mine at all times, so I don't worry about releasing the tiny chunk Home claims.
Someone, *please* correct me if I am wrong.
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Thanks for the reply, this is pretty much what I assumed. If this is the case, and it sounds logical, then I'm bit confused as to why it isn't automatically checked in CM7 anyway.
Default options are weird.
For my old G1, not locking it in memory makes sense. For the newer Nook, locking it in memory would be better.
Other defaults of CM7 include the Camera and Phone app on the Desktop for the Nook. Really?
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Other defaults of CM7 include the Camera and Phone app on the Desktop for the Nook. Really?
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Those apps are tied to strange but important parts of the OS, so they can't be easily removed.
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So from what I understand linix swap is a method to make your phone run faster. My phone has been acting a bit sluggish lately when loading the home screen.
When partitioning my sd card (using ra recovery) it asked how large of a swap to use, I checked another thread and found out that the recommened size for cupcake is 64mb. I set it at that. Is my phone currently using the swap or do I need to activate it/ use an app
In addition to the obove questions could someone outline the advantages/disadvantages.
Thanks a lot for any help.
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So from what I understand linix swap is a method to make your phone run faster. My phone has been acting a bit sluggish lately when loading the home screen.
When partitioning my sd card (using ra recovery) it asked how large of a swap to use, I checked another thread and found out that the recommened size for cupcake is 64mb. I set it at that. Is my phone currently using the swap or do I need to activate it/ use an app
In addition to the obove questions could someone outline the advantages/disadvantages.
Thanks a lot for any help.
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In cyanogen you will need to edit the user.conf or userinit.sh, I'm not sure which, to activate linux-swap as he uses compcache as default
It depends on who you ask... CompCache (CC), IMO, is better than swap for many reasons, the most of which is that it seems to be faster in scientific testing, and the best test of all, the seat of your pants test.
The problem with CC is that if you want to flash a ROM that is huge, ie a Hero ROM, you run out of room, so it becomes slower compared to a swap where you are actually adding "RAM" by using the SD card to do this. Some have been able to make Hero small enough to work with CC, but not enough for most people wanting all the bells and whistle's of Hero.
CC has some draw backs, the biggest being that it is slower than no CC in a solo task since the CPU has to uncompress the data when you re-open a program (You really see this when you open your browser back up and it takes 5 seconds to "reload" the page). But this is about the only real draw back.
Swap has a few more draw backs... it burns up your SD card, although it isn't a "huge" deal, it is still a draw back. As well, like CC, the CPU has to pull this data off the SD card, it isn't just sitting in memory like true RAM, so it's speed is limited by the speed of the SD card and the speed of the G1 at reading the SD card. In the end, since swap tends not to be compressed anywhere close to what CC is, it ends up being not that big of a deal in terms of actual speed... ie the browser might take half a second longer to open than CC right out of the box, but if you end up with 15 apps running and Rosie(what makes a Hero ROM a Hero ROM) it will take less time since it is at least still in the "RAM" and doesn't have to be re-opened 100%.
I hope this makes sense, and for those wiser than I, if I misrepresented let me know and I shall bow down like red chowder bows down to white chowder.
you can also use the app "user.conf v.030"
that's what i use, because i can control swappiness
i have now compcach enabled 64MB, ccbackinswap (swappiness 50), and 128MB linux-swap (swappiness 50)
works like a charm
shmigao said:
you can also use the app "user.conf v.030"
that's what i use, because i can control swappiness
i have now compcach enabled 64MB, ccbackinswap (swappiness 50), and 128MB linux-swap (swappiness 50)
works like a charm
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And I take it that this will make my phone run quicker? My phone has been a bit sluggish in loading the home dash
would this make my phone run quicker? and cold you explain swappiness
asb123 said:
would this make my phone run quicker? and cold you explain swappiness
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It depends, try it out and see how it works for you. Every person uses their phone differnetly, so for some it is an improvement, for others it is not.
And "swappiness" means the actual amount of data being swapped...
ie:
I have my linux-swap partition at 200MB, and my swappiness set at 96MB, meaning that only 96MB of data are actually being swapped on to the SD card.
Now, I don't use swap at all myself on donut, I stick to compcache or nothing depending on what the chef decided to do. If it uses swap out of the box, I will turn it off and put it onto compcache for a donut build.
Before you start playing around with swap, maybe get a task killer installed and use it sparingly (Android runs better when you don't kill stuff because of the way it is designed, but there is a limit, so task killers are nice, especially to kill something like music player or video player running in the background) This will speed things up just by keeping heavy CPU/RAM use programs actually fully closed.
Also, how slow is slow? At first, any ROM fly's on snapping back etc... but they all slow down a bit, some more than others. Actions should not and will not be instant, they should take time... not 15 seconds, but if it takes a second to load the home screen, so be it, that is damn good my friend.
Hi,
First post here, but have followed these forums for a while.
Just a quick question. I just recently updated to Cyanogen 4.2.14.1 for my Dream. Everything works fine and smooth, and with the ram hack I noticed this even more. But I notice that when first booting my phone up, that after running Advanced Task Killer and stopping all apps after letting the phone boot, that my available memory can get as high as 45mb.
Problem is, it never stays that high, and normally after an hour or so, I average around 28-34mb available memory, even after closing all applications and running ATK again.
Is that pretty standard for the G1 on this build? And if not, is there something I should be doing to increase the available memory?
The build runs great (much better than 4.2.13), but it seems that when I see screenshots of ATK on other peoples G1's, that they are getting more memory.
Any suggestions for me?
Thanks
It's by design
Im not sure I get what you mean. Can you be a bit more specific?
I think what the poster meant is that the ROM was designed to utilize your RAM as much as possible to keep things running fast and smooth. As long as your phone is still running fast, why worry about it?
Dai323 said:
Hi,
First post here, but have followed these forums for a while.
Just a quick question. I just recently updated to Cyanogen 4.2.14.1 for my Dream. Everything works fine and smooth, and with the ram hack I noticed this even more. But I notice that when first booting my phone up, that after running Advanced Task Killer and stopping all apps after letting the phone boot, that my available memory can get as high as 45mb.
Problem is, it never stays that high, and normally after an hour or so, I average around 28-34mb available memory, even after closing all applications and running ATK again.
Is that pretty standard for the G1 on this build? And if not, is there something I should be doing to increase the available memory?
The build runs great (much better than 4.2.13), but it seems that when I see screenshots of ATK on other peoples G1's, that they are getting more memory.
Any suggestions for me?
Thanks
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To expand on the other post, what good is ram if it is always free forcing applications to reopen. Wouldn't you rather have 15-20mb free ram to load new programs while keeping some of the programs you use often in ram, then have those get bumped out when more ram is needed.
futangclan said:
I think what the poster meant is that the ROM was designed to utilize your RAM as much as possible to keep things running fast and smooth. As long as your phone is still running fast, why worry about it?
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Cause theres a difference between running "fast", and "as fast as possible
Im just trying to make sure Im utilizing the roms to their best potential, and I simply wanted to make sure that was I was experiencing was normal.
evilkorn said:
To expand on the other post, what good is ram if it is always free forcing applications to reopen. Wouldn't you rather have 15-20mb free ram to load new programs while keeping some of the programs you use often in ram, then have those get bumped out when more ram is needed.
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You make a good point. I was just confused as it seems I hear alot of people saying they can achieve 45 to 50mb available memory on a G1. I so far cant find a way to do this. Nonetheless, the rom runs super.
Thanks for answering guys.
Thanks, that was the point I was trying to get at.
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To expand on the other post, what good is ram if it is always free forcing applications to reopen. Wouldn't you rather have 15-20mb free ram to load new programs while keeping some of the programs you use often in ram, then have those get bumped out when more ram is needed.
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I've noticed that my G1 (Running CM6) tends to run out of RAM fairly often, I was thinking maybe having swap space might help me a bit with this, however I only have a Class 2 SDHC Card (16GB), would I see any performance increment or should I just wait until I can afford a much faster one? (eg. The Kingston Class 10 one)
I would suggest to use no swap at all ... if RAM is too low, try to enable compcache it will help you probably a bit. I noticed a massive performance drop when enabling swap on CM6.
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Swap and CM5/6 don't get along. The memory killer in the kernel thinks that swap is actually free RAM and keeps more things open, stopping tasks from being killed at all. If you want to use swap, I recommend you use a donut/cupcake/hero rom that uses a different kernel so that things don't get down to a screeching halt. And anyways, the fastest speed I have ever seen my phone write something from my computer to the phone via USB is 2.7mb/s, compared with 6-12mb/s I get from an sdcard reader. That means that even when your phone is writing at top speed, it is just barely far from the 2mb/s write speed guaranteed by a class 2. You will definately see better performance with swap on a class 4, but anything higher won't benefit your phone much at all, unless you regularly transfer large amounts of files to your memery card via a card reader.
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I would suggest to use no swap at all ... if RAM is too low, try to enable compcache it will help you probably a bit. I noticed a massive performance drop when enabling swap on CM6.
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Compcache didn't improve performance at all, for me at least.
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Swap and CM5/6 don't get along. The memory killer in the kernel thinks that swap is actually free RAM and keeps more things open, stopping tasks from being killed at all. If you want to use swap, I recommend you use a donut/cupcake/hero rom that uses a different kernel so that things don't get down to a screeching halt. And anyways, the fastest speed I have ever seen my phone write something from my computer to the phone via USB is 2.7mb/s, compared with 6-12mb/s I get from an sdcard reader. That means that even when your phone is writing at top speed, it is just barely far from the 2mb/s write speed guaranteed by a class 2. You will definately see better performance with swap on a class 4, but anything higher won't benefit your phone much at all, unless you regularly transfer large amounts of files to your memery card via a card reader.
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What if I have a task killer app? Because running out of RAM is just as bad as having too much running...I don't have many apps as I only keep what I actually use as well.
I have to ask, what are you seeing as the symptom of "running out of ram" the system will always use all ram so it will always have nearly none free.
By this I of course mean what is taking forever from you the end users perspective.. from there we can tweek in the right direction or work on making the phone prioritize what is needed to be useful.
Many times people put tons of swap only to find the the problem application is still removed from ram/swap due to configuration and the system is even slower with swap.
Also before enabling swap try the settings -> adw -> system -> system persistent is enabled. (Or equivalent on other launchers)
If you really want to try swap, it wont be fast but in very little amounts
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I have to ask, what are you seeing as the symptom of "running out of ram" the system will always use all ram so it will always have nearly none free.
By this I of course mean what is taking forever from you the end users perspective.. from there we can tweek in the right direction or work on making the phone prioritize what is needed to be useful.
Many times people put tons of swap only to find the the problem application is still removed from ram/swap due to configuration and the system is even slower with swap.
Also before enabling swap try the settings -> adw -> system -> system persistent is enabled. (Or equivalent on other launchers)
If you really want to try swap, it wont be fast but in very little amounts
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Well, if I have MSN Talk open, the home screen tends to fall out of memory (Yeah, I have System persistent enabled) and Messaging is extremely slow (To the point where a letter appears a good second after I press the key), it's that kind of thing when I run certain programs, it makes it hard to have stuff like JuiceDefender running because I always run out of RAM even just running the Speedtest app then.
I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...
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I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...
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This is a common problem of our phone due to the low amount of ram, as you said, 512mb, they are simply not enough. Why do you think most recent phones come with 4 time bigger amount of ram (2gb)?
Man, to keep thus old phone responsive, you have to choose the best rom / kernel for you, and setup them for your needs, first find your favourite rom / kernel, I can suggest you what I personally use, therom cm10.2 by tonyp with kowalsky m1 with 32mb ramhack, for me is the best at the moment, but after all, it is a personal choice, there are a lot of good roms. Well, if you want more ram, so multitask, then you have to use a kernel with ramhack, at least 18% ram spended I'm zram, and something like value 60 of swappiness
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Also, I saw you have many notification of apps in your status bar.. This is a phone with a low amount of ram remember it. You seriously can't keep all this app installed, especially if they send you any kind of notification, because if they do it this means they take ram = less ram available = slow phone.
Listen to me. This will surely help you. If you don't still using it, you must try the app GREENIFY, it hibernate, means that if a app takes ram, it will no longer take it = free ram = fast phone!
But if you do it of course you will not receive any notification from it, but it's certainly worth it. What is the sense to multitasking from notification to notification if the switch takes 1 year to do?
For example I greenifyed Facebook, which I don't need in ram as I deactivated any notification service from the app but without GREENIFY it still suck like 45 mb of ram, while doing anything, with greenify it doesn't suck anything! Same thing for Google maps, YouTube, and all other apps that suck memory when I don't need them to, but sometimes I use them so I need to keep them installed, but anyway don't use so many apps that aren't indispensable keeped in ram, because they suck ram, and everything sucks ram sucks the general speed of the phone and a bit of battery remember it. My personal suggestion is when you see that a app that you won't greenify because you need its notification sucks much ram, like 15mb.. 20.. Etc, my suggestion is: unistall it, or if you won't to at least greenify it and use it only when you need to see the app itself, then when you're done greenify it again. and hey, saving ram means that you will save battery too. So speed + multitask + battery. What else?
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Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?
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3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
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stock android data counter does the good job without using any 3rd party apps...
Greenify worked magic, it's night and day with my phone now, good catch.
Patbach said:
Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?
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If you hide something, just press menu button - show all
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After 8 months google finally fix the memory leak in android lollipop. Thanks :crying::crying: Am I dreaming?
Having the memory load increasing is not, in itself, a memory leak.
The Nexus 5 comes with 2 Gb of RAM, the goal is not to have memory load below 300 mb in every case (or you can buy a 512 mb-RAM smartphone)
The leak is a bug in memory management which increase memory load without any limit, thus slowing the device and crashing it. I did not experience this under 5.1 with Franco and stock kernel.
I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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This is kind of interesting. I wonder if the system management is to blame or apps themselves.
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I found a solution. If you change the kernel (for example Franco kernel) all problems are solved.
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did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
Issue stared and '+1 confirmed'.
Can someone mark the bug as critical?
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did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
i don t know if is due to the memory leak but after 3 days (fresh factory image flash) i m facing the annoying launcher redraw and high system memory usage:780 mb with 1,2 gb of peak
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
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I dont want to create a seperate thread so I am asking here. Got Nexus 5 a few days ago, started reading about 5.1 update and memory leak issue. Tried to update to 5.1 but gave up(usb driver issue). Today I noticed that ram usage for apps increases and does not drop down after shutting down apps (games mainly). System ram is constantly about 300-400 but app ram got from 300 to over 600 in about 6 hours. Is this also a memory leak or maybe apps just do not completely shut down?
Memory going up does not mean there is a memory leak, it means memory no longer in use has not yet been garbage collected which is fine.
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Isnt suppost Linux do same memory management with 2GB or 3GB of Ram?
Wich leads me to if KK,JB and ICS didnt had this memory leak problem how come this happens in LP?
That is one thing that I dont understand....
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Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
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Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
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exactly ! but ppl need to understand that what they need with phone.
i don't see any app that need more than 2GBs for ram on market plus multitasking is exceptional in N5 for me bcz i don't use tons of chatting apps who always runs and eats all resources of phone , i use heavy games and N5 still works great with highest graphics...and i bet none of Samsung or any other premium devices works with them as impressive as this 1.5yr old device still do ! so for me N5 is still more than enough
phone shouldn't be excessive better in specs than what you wants from phone. Bcz it does't make any sanse unless one have lots of money and he/she only want to waste it one way or another
I thought this was fixed at first. I picked up my phone this morning and went to check news and the whole thing was froze for like 5 seconds then starting working, but stuttering. Do I checked apps and low and behold I had about ten apps restarting, just like in the previous lollipop. Except this time I only see half my apps restarting (so far) instead of nearly all of them.
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My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
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sounds like almost my case
I've read several android blogs they claim damaging, HTC, ect have fixed the memory leak in their roms (although I heard people claim this in cm12 also). Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm this is true?
I tried loading and swiping CoC 5 times and my free Ram still remains at 1200.
My battery life has definitely gotten significantly worse after 5.1. Drained over 20% in just an hour with very light usage.