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Starting with Optimus X2 needs, hints, must haves, possibilities

Hi there,
im new on the Optimus X2 and i am trying to figure out what you can do withit.
i got several questions and hope you can tell and or help me withit.
My first action on using Android was to put version 2.2.2 i think, on my HD2 Leo using clockwork and NAND. Had no experience to do stuff like that before, but great forum here helped me trough it.
so...
1.
I´ve heard about problems with the battery, that lifetime is not displayed right.
I think i may have something like that too. sometimes battery run out after only about 5-9 hours (using web and/or games)of course i am using it in that time but that seems to be a little bit too fast. In standby sometime it is turning off after 12-18 hours, of course using it with calls and sms sometimes.
2.
There normally should be an update or something, i thought the X2 is beeing delivered with android 2.3.? or will be updated soon after selling?
Are there any official information?
3.
I thought X2 will be out with 512mb ram?
when i start 3-4 apps and close them down, sometimes the advanced task killer shows before closing programs only 50-60 mb ram (is it ram?), after closing goes back up to about 180.
its not that nice when you want to take pictures or record video in F-HD is not working properly. have to close down everything before.
4.
What is this Cm7? i read alot about it, but i still dont know exactly what it is?
I`ve allready rooted my phone, whats a good app for deinstalling systemstuff and preinstalled games and apps?
5.
What are the 10 most useful and must have apps/programs to configure, style, and use youre phone?
6.
Are you guys using different roms? are there faster ones, more stable, less battery using?
7.
I got an 8gb external sd card, system only is showing , 4,9gb of 5,9gb free, maybe an sdcard bug like HD2 Leo had a time ago?
phone specification:
phone is rooted
I am using android 2.2.2
Baseband version 1035.21_20110405
Kernel version 2.6.32.9
Build number FRG83G
LG Version LGP990-V10d
Vodafone Germany Branding
answer in english or german
antworten gerne in deutsch oder englisch
thx for help and best regards

kingleroy85 said:
1.
I´ve heard about problems with the battery, that lifetime is not displayed right.
I think i may have something like that too. sometimes battery run out after only about 5-9 hours (using web and/or games)of course i am using it in that time but that seems to be a little bit too fast. In standby sometime it is turning off after 12-18 hours, of course using it with calls and sms sometimes.
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Battery life is a bit of an issue with the stock rom, since, on Froyo, there apparently is a problem with idle power consumption. This is much better on some of the custom roms based on Gingerbread, e.g. CM7.
kingleroy85 said:
2.
There normally should be an update or something, i thought the X2 is beeing delivered with android 2.3.? or will be updated soon after selling?
Are there any official information?
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The "official" rumours are, that there will definatelly be a 2.3.* update, though when is not clear, we will possibly have to wait until fall to get it.
kingleroy85 said:
3.
I thought X2 will be out with 512mb ram?
when i start 3-4 apps and close them down, sometimes the advanced task killer shows before closing programs only 50-60 mb ram (is it ram?), after closing goes back up to about 180.
its not that nice when you want to take pictures or record video in F-HD is not working properly. have to close down everything before.
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Ideally, Android should be managin the RAM for you. The device does have 512 MB RAM, but mind that there is alot of stuff on the stock rom. You can have more available to you by
deleting or disabling widgets on the stock rom
installing a custom rom
kingleroy85 said:
4.
What is this Cm7? i read alot about it, but i still dont know exactly what it is?
I`ve allready rooted my phone, whats a good app for deinstalling systemstuff and preinstalled games and apps?
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It is called CyanogenMod7, and is a very popular custom rom, which exists for a lot of different Android devices, including the LGOS. It is also based on 2.3.4, so it basically already is a Gingerbread Rom, but I think it still has a Froyo kernel and/or userspace, so not completely native.
kingleroy85 said:
5.
What are the 10 most useful and must have apps/programs to configure, style, and use youre phone?
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I'm not gonna call out 10 apps here, but living in Germany, you should definatelly check out "Öffi" (free). I also find Maverick (payware), GPS Essentials (Free) and Dropbox (free) to be quite handy.
kingleroy85 said:
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Are you guys using different roms? are there faster ones, more stable, less battery using?
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This depends on how happy you are with modding your phone and flashing things on it. There can be quite a bit of work necessary to get a custom rom running on your phone, but it might be worth your while. I've used custom roms mainly for the fact that they can have massively lower battery consumption when the phone is idling (e.g. display off, standby). When using the phone actively, I've not found differences to be that big regarding battery life.
kingleroy85 said:
7.
I got an 8gb external sd card, system only is showing , 4,9gb of 5,9gb free, maybe an sdcard bug like HD2 Leo had a time ago?
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You are probably confusing the internal sd card with your external one. Keep in mind that the LGOS has a 6GiB internal sd card.

ok
thank you for this detailed answer.
i will take a look on the other Roms and will try it i think.
The problem with the sd card is not from confusing with the internal one.
Using the App, App 2 SD Free phone memory is showing me 1,45GB, on SD Card which must be the internal one shows me 5,51GB and on moveable which seems to be the external sd card it shows me 1,45GB again instood of my 8GB SD?
thx for help

What should be the most responsive/quick firmware for omap4430 512mb 10.1" G9?

I have my G9 for about 2 years now, and it's the first generation 512mb G9 1.0ghz.
All these years I updated every firmware that Archos released, so also used to the bugs and problems that sometimes occured.
Using 4.0.28 a long time now, but I think it's not repsonsive and has a lot of lag. Sometimes waiting quite a while to start an app for example.
I know that's also caused by the 1.0ghz and 512mb, but I want to try a custom rom IF that's faster.
I know all the custom firmwares are based on the official firmware, I read almost all the topic about them, but I'm not sure which firmware to choose. Hope someone can give me some clues if installing another firmware could make my G9 faster. And if so, which of the firmwares should do the trick? Somewhere I read the 4.0.7 should cause less lagging on the older generation tablets.

hars73 said:
I have my G9 for about 2 years now, and it's the first generation 512mb G9 1.0ghz.
All these years I updated every firmware that Archos released, so also used to the bugs and problems that sometimes occured.
Using 4.0.28 a long time now, but I think it's not repsonsive and has a lot of lag. Sometimes waiting quite a while to start an app for example.
I know that's also caused by the 1.0ghz and 512mb, but I want to try a custom rom IF that's faster.
I know all the custom firmwares are based on the official firmware, I read almost all the topic about them, but I'm not sure which firmware to choose. Hope someone can give me some clues if installing another firmware could make my G9 faster. And if so, which of the firmwares should do the trick? Somewhere I read the 4.0.7 should cause less lagging on the older generation tablets.
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I'd be interested in that answer also, I'm on Surdu's custom ROM which was great at first, but now it's lagging like crazy. I can't see anything running in the background that would cause it.

hars73 said:
Using 4.0.28 a long time now, but I think it's not repsonsive and has a lot of lag. Sometimes waiting quite a while to start an app for example.
I know that's also caused by the 1.0ghz and 512mb, but I want to try a custom rom IF that's faster.
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Although there are a few 'custom' ROMS that have some features like overclocking... overall, the VERY SMALL increase in performance of them simply is not worth it (at least not to me).
The slow down is also not really due to having only a 1GHz CPU and/or only 512MB of RAM either. It's a combination of 2 things...
#1) The totally STUPID way Archos changed their Media Center apps (Video and Music) so that the device constantly starts 'indexing' files (even when it should not do so). Heck, it even tries to 'index' pictures, music, or video files of certain game apps when you try to install them. When your device is 'lagging' take a look down in the lower right notifications to see if there is circular arrows indicating it is 'indexing'. If it is, that will slow the device down to a snails speed until it gets done.
#2) Many of the new Google updates (Google's own app updates) are now becoming far to over bloated with foolish (and, as far as I'm concerned totally unnecessary fluff).
The best solution to #1 (on my end anyway) was to simply go back to 4.0.7, but there is some extra clean up work needed to get that all straightened out. Even then you can still end up with the #2 problems (simply because Google wants everyone to buy new devices so that they and everyone else can make more money).
Sorry, I'm just way too tired and about to fall asleep here to explain all the details about how to get back to 4.0.7 and clean things up right now. All I can say for now is that I am far more happy with 4.0.7 than ANY other firmware on my end. YMMV.

55mls said:
Although there are a few 'custom' ROMS that have some features like overclocking... overall, the VERY SMALL increase in performance of them simply is not worth it (at least not to me).
The slow down is also not really due to having only a 1GHz CPU and/or only 512MB of RAM either. It's a combination of 2 things...
#1) The totally STUPID way Archos changed their Media Center apps (Video and Music) so that the device constantly starts 'indexing' files (even when it should not do so). Heck, it even tries to 'index' pictures, music, or video files of certain game apps when you try to install them. When your device is 'lagging' take a look down in the lower right notifications to see if there is circular arrows indicating it is 'indexing'. If it is, that will slow the device down to a snails speed until it gets done.
#2) Many of the new Google updates (Google's own app updates) are now becoming far to over bloated with foolish (and, as far as I'm concerned totally unnecessary fluff).
The best solution to #1 (on my end anyway) was to simply go back to 4.0.7, but there is some extra clean up work needed to get that all straightened out. Even then you can still end up with the #2 problems (simply because Google wants everyone to buy new devices so that they and everyone else can make more money).
Sorry, I'm just way too tired and about to fall asleep here to explain all the details about how to get back to 4.0.7 and clean things up right now. All I can say for now is that I am far more happy with 4.0.7 than ANY other firmware on my end. YMMV.
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In know about the stupid indexing service. I can see it running after rebooting my tablet, but almost never when using it.
Maybe I'm going to install the official SDE from Archos (that can also be installed on 4.0.28 since a few months) and after that install a rooted 4.0.7 and then disable all the services I don't need. That might help a bit.

I suggest 4.0.28 or 4.0.7. 55mls hates firmware after 4.0.7 but .28 has been good for me. I don't store any media files so indexing doesn't affect me. Prior firmware have bugs with some games for example too.
Also on my 80 G9, I think 4.0.7 has some wifi strangeness. Disconnects occasionally.
Alternatively you can roll back to 3.2.80. This one works quite well overall functionally. However it's certainly not the fastest. The GUI seems slower to me than with the 4.x OS. Honeycomb also has some caveats like occasional lack of app support and the fact that it's sort of a Android 4 prototype in general. On the other other hand, Honeycomb is an interesting bit of history and I like its UI theme.

having the same tablet here (also with ""only"" 512mb ram).
i'm running 4.0.7. now, which works a lot better than 4.0.28 for me, but still has some lags from time to time..

I guess I should have also mentioned a 3rd reason in my previous post that some people may not be aware of...
When installing apps, some do require extra 'temporary file' and/or 'cache file' storage space. By default, Android normally will pop up a "memory low" notification when the amount of memory drops below 500MB. Of course, that means the systems has already gotten so low on memory that it can no longer operate correctly.
On my end (and my devices) I've found that things start to slow down already even when the 'free space' gets down to 1GB. In general, if you can keep the 'free space' up to at least 1GB (preferably 1.5 or more) then there is very little of any slow down.
Of course, now days, almost all the newer devices come with at least 16GB of flash memory and 2GB of RAM (not to mention quad core processors) simply to be able to handle all of the extra fluff Google keeps adding into things with their own upgrades.
Since Google is making the exact same mistakes Microsoft did years ago (taking a good OS and cluttering it up with so much extra fluff that nobody wanted/needed)... well, I've pretty much lost all interest in Android now. I bought my Archos G9 tablets for only one reason and that is to do what Archos claimed they did at the time. I did not expect, nor did I ever want them to end up having to go thru multiple upgrades (from either Archos or Google) to do anything more or less than that. Unfortunately, every upgrade now seems to actually lower (or even restrict) being able to use my Archos devices BELOW what I originally could use them for.

55mls said:
On my end (and my devices) I've found that things start to slow down already even when the 'free space' gets down to 1GB. In general, if you can keep the 'free space' up to at least 1GB (preferably 1.5 or more) then there is very little of any slow down.
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This seems to be something all devices have a problem with. It's probably a flash RAM issue. When the flash gets near full, it needs to do more erases+writes to store new data and this just kills write performance.

swaaye said:
This seems to be something all devices have a problem with. It's probably a flash RAM issue. When the flash gets near full, it needs to do more erases+writes to store new data and this just kills write performance.
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My son installed a lot of games on my Archos in the past and there was not a lot of free memory left. This week he bought a Asus MemoPad HD7, so I uninstalled all the games on my Archos.
And it seems my Archos is a lot more responsive now and has less lags. :good:
Still on the official 4.0.28, but this is good enough for now.

hars73 said:
My son installed a lot of games on my Archos in the past and there was not a lot of free memory left. This week he bought a Asus MemoPad HD7, so I uninstalled all the games on my Archos.
And it seems my Archos is a lot more responsive now and has less lags. :good:
Still on the official 4.0.28, but this is good enough for now.
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Another thing you can do, especially if you have a 512MB device, is to keep watch for apps that run extra background processes. For example, do a reboot and load the system monitor app and see what is loading automatically on boot up. The 512MB devices really don't have enough RAM to go around beyond the basics.

My 2x is really slow, can anyone help? (missing RAM???)

I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...

Patbach said:
I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...
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This is a common problem of our phone due to the low amount of ram, as you said, 512mb, they are simply not enough. Why do you think most recent phones come with 4 time bigger amount of ram (2gb)?
Man, to keep thus old phone responsive, you have to choose the best rom / kernel for you, and setup them for your needs, first find your favourite rom / kernel, I can suggest you what I personally use, therom cm10.2 by tonyp with kowalsky m1 with 32mb ramhack, for me is the best at the moment, but after all, it is a personal choice, there are a lot of good roms. Well, if you want more ram, so multitask, then you have to use a kernel with ramhack, at least 18% ram spended I'm zram, and something like value 60 of swappiness
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Also, I saw you have many notification of apps in your status bar.. This is a phone with a low amount of ram remember it. You seriously can't keep all this app installed, especially if they send you any kind of notification, because if they do it this means they take ram = less ram available = slow phone.
Listen to me. This will surely help you. If you don't still using it, you must try the app GREENIFY, it hibernate, means that if a app takes ram, it will no longer take it = free ram = fast phone!
But if you do it of course you will not receive any notification from it, but it's certainly worth it. What is the sense to multitasking from notification to notification if the switch takes 1 year to do?
For example I greenifyed Facebook, which I don't need in ram as I deactivated any notification service from the app but without GREENIFY it still suck like 45 mb of ram, while doing anything, with greenify it doesn't suck anything! Same thing for Google maps, YouTube, and all other apps that suck memory when I don't need them to, but sometimes I use them so I need to keep them installed, but anyway don't use so many apps that aren't indispensable keeped in ram, because they suck ram, and everything sucks ram sucks the general speed of the phone and a bit of battery remember it. My personal suggestion is when you see that a app that you won't greenify because you need its notification sucks much ram, like 15mb.. 20.. Etc, my suggestion is: unistall it, or if you won't to at least greenify it and use it only when you need to see the app itself, then when you're done greenify it again. and hey, saving ram means that you will save battery too. So speed + multitask + battery. What else?
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Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?

Patbach said:
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
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stock android data counter does the good job without using any 3rd party apps...

Greenify worked magic, it's night and day with my phone now, good catch.

Patbach said:
Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?
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If you hide something, just press menu button - show all
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Android 5.1.1 LMY48B finally the memory leak is solved!!

After 8 months google finally fix the memory leak in android lollipop. Thanks :crying::crying: Am I dreaming?

Having the memory load increasing is not, in itself, a memory leak.
The Nexus 5 comes with 2 Gb of RAM, the goal is not to have memory load below 300 mb in every case (or you can buy a 512 mb-RAM smartphone)
The leak is a bug in memory management which increase memory load without any limit, thus slowing the device and crashing it. I did not experience this under 5.1 with Franco and stock kernel.

I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig

jzviagin said:
I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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This is kind of interesting. I wonder if the system management is to blame or apps themselves.

jlmcr87 said:
I found a solution. If you change the kernel (for example Franco kernel) all problems are solved.
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did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:

Issue stared and '+1 confirmed'.
Can someone mark the bug as critical?

jineshpatel30 said:
did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.

i don t know if is due to the memory leak but after 3 days (fresh factory image flash) i m facing the annoying launcher redraw and high system memory usage:780 mb with 1,2 gb of peak
jlmcr87 said:
The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
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I dont want to create a seperate thread so I am asking here. Got Nexus 5 a few days ago, started reading about 5.1 update and memory leak issue. Tried to update to 5.1 but gave up(usb driver issue). Today I noticed that ram usage for apps increases and does not drop down after shutting down apps (games mainly). System ram is constantly about 300-400 but app ram got from 300 to over 600 in about 6 hours. Is this also a memory leak or maybe apps just do not completely shut down?

Memory going up does not mean there is a memory leak, it means memory no longer in use has not yet been garbage collected which is fine.

Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.

surrealjam said:
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Isnt suppost Linux do same memory management with 2GB or 3GB of Ram?
Wich leads me to if KK,JB and ICS didnt had this memory leak problem how come this happens in LP?
That is one thing that I dont understand....

surrealjam said:
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.

My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.

Simonna said:
Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
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exactly ! but ppl need to understand that what they need with phone.
i don't see any app that need more than 2GBs for ram on market plus multitasking is exceptional in N5 for me bcz i don't use tons of chatting apps who always runs and eats all resources of phone , i use heavy games and N5 still works great with highest graphics...and i bet none of Samsung or any other premium devices works with them as impressive as this 1.5yr old device still do ! so for me N5 is still more than enough
phone shouldn't be excessive better in specs than what you wants from phone. Bcz it does't make any sanse unless one have lots of money and he/she only want to waste it one way or another

I thought this was fixed at first. I picked up my phone this morning and went to check news and the whole thing was froze for like 5 seconds then starting working, but stuttering. Do I checked apps and low and behold I had about ten apps restarting, just like in the previous lollipop. Except this time I only see half my apps restarting (so far) instead of nearly all of them.

Cum said:
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
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sounds like almost my case

I've read several android blogs they claim damaging, HTC, ect have fixed the memory leak in their roms (although I heard people claim this in cm12 also). Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm this is true?

I tried loading and swiping CoC 5 times and my free Ram still remains at 1200.

My battery life has definitely gotten significantly worse after 5.1. Drained over 20% in just an hour with very light usage.

Ram usage >= 95%, os slowing down

Hi guys,
I stumbled across the problem that my phone recently got slower and slower. I've done some research, which problems can cause my phone to be slowing down that much.
Eventually I discovered the phone's ram to be used to the limit. Most of the time, there were only round about 25 MB free ram, the rest (~825 MB) was already in use. I thought this to be my main problem.
I tried to fix this problem by installing a new rom. I installed liquid smooth from this Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-liquidsmooth-t3177000
Earlier I had Carbon installed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-carbonrom-t3193493) with the same issue (high ram usage)
Anyway, after updating to a newer rom, deinstalling some apps, trying to get insight into the ram usage, I still didn't get my phone to be running smoothly.
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get some more free ram so that starting a single app doesn't kill my whole os?
Or any other ideas how to get my phone to be running smoothly?
Best,
Blue

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Hi guys,
I stumbled across the problem that my phone recently got slower and slower. I've done some research, which problems can cause my phone to be slowing down that much.
Eventually I discovered the phone's ram to be used to the limit. Most of the time, there were only round about 25 MB free ram, the rest (~825 MB) was already in use. I thought this to be my main problem.
I tried to fix this problem by installing a new rom. I installed liquid smooth from this Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-liquidsmooth-t3177000
Earlier I had Carbon installed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-carbonrom-t3193493) with the same issue (high ram usage)
Anyway, after updating to a newer rom, deinstalling some apps, trying to get insight into the ram usage, I still didn't get my phone to be running smoothly.
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get some more free ram so that starting a single app doesn't kill my whole os?
Or any other ideas how to get my phone to be running smoothly?
Best,
Blue
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Its normal for RAM to be used to max. Its how Android works. The phone closes apps to open new ones, etc,etc. Android makes the most of it, not like PC's.
i would look instead for something that could be using your CPU.

Blue696 said:
Hi guys,
I stumbled across the problem that my phone recently got slower and slower. I've done some research, which problems can cause my phone to be slowing down that much.
Eventually I discovered the phone's ram to be used to the limit. Most of the time, there were only round about 25 MB free ram, the rest (~825 MB) was already in use. I thought this to be my main problem.
I tried to fix this problem by installing a new rom. I installed liquid smooth from this Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-liquidsmooth-t3177000
Earlier I had Carbon installed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-mini-2/orig-development/rom-carbonrom-t3193493) with the same issue (high ram usage)
Anyway, after updating to a newer rom, deinstalling some apps, trying to get insight into the ram usage, I still didn't get my phone to be running smoothly.
Do you guys have any suggestions on how to get some more free ram so that starting a single app doesn't kill my whole os?
Or any other ideas how to get my phone to be running smoothly?
Best,
Blue
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Are you killing the apps you open or do you use the return key, clearing cache memory..