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I was tinkering round this morning and looked into my devices storage and saw that 27gb of 32gb were being used.
Did some math on my own:
Apps: 2.82gb
Music: 3.23gb
Photos: 1.12gb
Other: 19.85gb:
-Nandroids: 9gb
-Titanium Back up 1gb
2 roms: 1.5gb
Somewhere in the "Other" category something is eating up 9gb of space. I used my file explorer and couldn't pin anything that big down. I am going to offload my nandroids but I shouldn't have to.
Anyone else run into this or know what this 9gb "other" hog could be
Is there an app or system setting I am missing to ID this?
Sprint HTC One
Running: D3rpONE
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Your 'other' is really suspicious. Mine is ~7GB. I'd do a factory reset, easiest way IMO.
If you're flashing roms or doing backups with any other apps (CWM or something). I'm guessing they would go there. Check your download folder as well if you do a lot of downloading.
You may also try installing airdroid and using the desktop filemanager to whittle down your list as well.
Download Disk Usage. It shows you visually whats taking up space. It's amazing.
Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...
tdubbs27 said:
Thanks for advice using disk usage. I don't know why I didn't reinstall that sooner.
I did some digging and searching around the interwebs and found out this is a known issue. Other people have noticed it in droves. From my early intel: when you delete files you lose data blocks and they are marked as bad. If you ran dsk chk they would come up as corrupt. People are losing more storage space than I did.
2 solutions came up:
1. Reformat your SD: Copy everything to PC>reformat>copy everything back....time consuming but worked from what I could tell
2. There is an update that has been released overseas(asia, india, etc) that seems to fix this issue. It's a known HTC ONE issue so maybe someday I will see an update that will fix it.
If you are experiencing the same thing you can do some light reading:
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630914
or
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632999
Thanks for your help...
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I'm definitely going to check on this
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Also check if you are using Google play music and have a lot of playlists pinned. I believe that and movies actually show there in other.
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I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
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tdubbs27 said:
I couldn't just let this rest. I like to flash roms and knew I would need strorage space for some nandroids in the future. Here are somethings I tried and had issues with.
Formatting the SD card: I could not for the life of me get this done.
-Nothing in TWRP
-Couldn't do it in windows
-Couldn't mount the sd in TWRP or regularly and get it to show up in windows file explorer as a drive to format
Eventual solution:
I formated the data in TWRP using the format data option. I copied everything over before I did it. When I came back I flashed a new rom and was still missing 7 gb. No apps, no music, nothing. SD card was empty still only showed 25 gb available.
Conclusion: I think I have some bad sectors in their somewhere. I read that I could go back completely to stock and try to star this whole process over.
One question: Can I unlock using HTCdev as many times as I want or is it a one time thing?
Anyone else in the same boat?
help...
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If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.
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If you go back completely to stock, your bootloader will probably still be unlocked (unless you relock and use an RUU). The code you got to disable your bootloader the first time around will work however many times you want. To be honest though, I wouldn't be surprised if that 7GB were used by the system ROM/frameworks and I'd be even less surprised if you still found files on your SD card in a .Trashes folder or something from earlier. Formatting data tends to leave weird remnants all over the place.
Also, +1 to the Google Music thing. Definitely shows up in other for me.
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Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...
tdubbs27 said:
Thank you. It gives me more options and more to think about.
-Can't find anything substantial in a .trashes folder
-Dont use any Google Music services
Really wish I could truly reformat/check for bad sectors to find out if it's corrupt or just buggy...
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, try running Fix permissions. It'll tell you for one if it hits any errors (because it finds files it can't change perms for), and may help with the issue (or use the Fix permissions tool in ROM Manager if you'd rather not use recovery).
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-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat
tdubbs27 said:
-Ran fix permissions in recovery: no errors everything went as it should
-Ran fix persmissions in viper rom: terminal settings: no errors everything ran as it should
Is there a way to reformat the SD card/partition? I don't think the TWRP method really reformatted it. Just erased everything.
Clockwork gives you the ability to set a swap partition but not a true reformat
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Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.
Rirere said:
Have you tried TWRP's advanced wipe? If you haven't, it's worth a shot, but I cannot stress enough that you should be careful. This is exactly the kind of problem that you can bork your phone trying to fix for no good reason.
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Your exactly correct on the last point. I am going to keep listening and looking. I think/hope/pray the update the internationals got can be applied some way in the future and may help out a bit. Just going to have to utilize some cloud storage a little better.
it's not totally/technically broke and I am not going to do more harm.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions
I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
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mprunty said:
I've been having the same problem, but notice something interesting. My phone said I had almost 20GB in the other category, and I didn't know why.
I downloaded disk usage to get a detail view of what's going on in my storage and I was able to clear 12GB with just deleting old downloads, TWRP backups, Titanium Backups. Still cleaning house.
Also after doing some research, the data that's stored by your apps (ext. PS3 Trophies is a 8mb download, buts it's total size is 31mb on the phone) is counted in the Other section and not part of the app data. So the more apps u have like this installed, the more likely the Other section will balloon in size.
Remember, when u remove and app, it's stored data is still in the phone storage.
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I use disk useage but it doesn't even show my max storage space as 32gb. It shows 26gb. See Screenshot: So I have 6gb that aren't even registering as available storage. I was trying to clean out some old app storage but the space they use is so small. Would they be worth it? I think the fact I am missing 6 gb is more troubling.
I could be wrong, but doesn't the phone only have 27GB of formatted space?
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any device with internal memory will lose some. this is the exact reason i havent gotten one yet bc im praying that sprint will get the 64gb version. i will say that if they are going to advertise a device at xyz gb then they should build in the extra needed for system so we actually get what we pay for. cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
guess ill be holding on to my evo lte for another yr or so.
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cloud storage and otg are there but still a slight pain in the butt.
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Is OTG standard in Android? Does the One need to be rooted?
So I'm on my HTC one running android revolution with 4.4 .2 kitkat. I have Been through other rims in the past, mainly cyanogenmod. So today I was trying to make a tarp backup of my phone and got an error saying I had insufficient storage space, I checked my storage in settings only to see that "other" was taking up a whopping 26.6 gb of my total 32gb. Not sure if it's previous backups or what. Please help a newbie out, really confused as to what could be causing it. I have pretty much nothing on my phone right now. Thanks in advance!
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Start over, flash a ruu.
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Do you know what might be taking up the space?
th30utcast said:
Do you know what might be taking up the space?
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Download disk usage from the market and you will be able to see the files thats taking up space.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
It maybe your nandroid backup or autobackup of apks.
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Download disk usage from the market and you will be able to see the files thats taking up space.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
It maybe your nandroid backup or autobackup of apks.
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agreed. each nandroid backup on my device is almost 3gb...
So I have the "32GB" turbo. but when i look at storage it shows that total storage is only 24GB!!?? Do others phones only show as having 24 instead of 32? Where is the other 8GB?
Also, i show twrp as taking up 12GB. I have 2 backups. can they really be 6GB each? I was hoping to be able to have a stock backup, computerfreek backup, and a MM rom. but thats not possible (not enough space). I must be doing something wrong.
That 24 GB that you see is likely the userdata partition. When it says 32 GB, that means 32 GB in total. Some goes to the OS, some goes to system apps, etc. There's some overhead. It's like if you get a computer with a 128 GB SSD, you're only going to get about 88 since Windows takes up about 40 GB. As for the TWRP backups, yes. That's definitely a typical size for a backup. If I were you, I would move your backups off the phone. You can always put them back on while booted in TWRP if you need them.
I recommend you get a OTG flash drive. I have a sandisk 64GB otg drive that I store my backups on. TWRP has an option to backup straight to the OTG drive as long as its connected when you boot up TWRP. The 24GB free is right, The system on stock takes up almost 2 gigs alone, plus the extra userdata, apps, etc. Every phone from every manufacturer has the same thing. you will never get a full 32gb on a 32gb phone. its unrealistic
that makes sense. here is my issue with doing that. i cant find my nandroid backups outside of twrp. if i connect the phone to my pc and open the files they are nowhere to be found. twrp folder is empty, backup folder is empty. the only time i can see them is when im in twrp and click on restore.
That's why I went with 64GB storage for my Quark. With previous 32GB LG Nexus 5, it was like I was in a leaky boat always bailing water to stay afloat. I was always near my limit.
Try navigating to /data/media/0/TWRP using a root browser, and cut and paste the backups to your downloads folder. You should be able to find them there when you plug your phone in.
i have a 32gb moto x (original) and never ran into this problem. thought id be the same with the turbo. thought wrong. live and learn...
found the backup using root explorer (thank you). but after moving them to download folder. when i plug into pc everything in folder shows accept the backup. I never had this issue on previous phones
Weird. Try using the root browser to change the permissions of the folder so that everything is as public as possible. Another option is to try and upload the backups to a cloud drive.
Hi All,
I am in possession of an M7 and have been surprised by how much of the internal memory is taken up just by Android and Apps; 23.67 of 32.00 Gigs have already been used, and I have not taken a single photo with my phone, uploaded music to it, etc.!
When I look in Settings > Storage I notice that most storage is being used by the 'System & other' category, which is currently consuming 19.39 Gigs!!
I have performed a little research on this before posting, and have turned of the 'Recycle Bin' in ES Explorer, removed same, and deleted the .estrongs folder using TWRP.
I can't see how my Apps could possibly take up so much space.
Can anybody assist with increasing my storage space?
Kind Regards,
Davo
That it's not normal, make a factory reset or reflash your rom.
Not normal. There are some storage analyzer apps that help you determine what precisely is using space, I use this one: com.google.android.diskusage
And if you cannot manually clean out the stuff, factory reset or flashing a ROM should fix things.. If the partitions are fked up, I have no idea how to fix that.
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If the partitions are fked up, I have no idea how to fix that.
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RUU will sort out partition problem
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RUU will sort out partition problem
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Yes, you're right. RUU is ultimate fix, but it would be nice if we could easily resize partitions.
Like, I have a debloated ROM, thrown out 2 GB of crap. So, now I have a lot of free unused space in /system partition, but no easy way to utlize it. I could of courze install more apps as system-apps, but..
Anyway, yes, RUU = Fix.
I have a non rooted note 8 that I am trying to backup before factory reset and then unlocking the bootloader.
I have a lot of data there. Around 55 gb spread around various folders.
I am trying for the past few days to backup and didn't find any way to backup everything on my phone to my pc.
What I have tried so far:
1. Searching for various softwares and guides. Most of them talk about cloud which I don't use or have. I also want a local backup.
I will add that there is no reliable software that backup everything including apps, media, etc.
2. Tried regular ADB pull command. Every time I tried that, instead of the 55gb of storage I have on my phone I get a folder with less then 20gb on my pc.
That means a lot of stuff are missing. I then kept searching and found out ADB doesn't work best from the android OS so its better to use custom recovery in order to perfom ADB pull comnmands.
3. I installed twrp on my note 8 and tried to ADB pull. I get "0 files pulled". Further checking the problem it seems I need to "mount" from twrp.
Tried mounting but I get internal storage 0mb. Trying to select the "data' in mount options doesn't work. I get no error but it doesn't get selected.
Now my note 8 is stuck on twrp and I can't get back to my android OS. When I try to restart in either get bootloop or returning to TWRP.
I am looking for a way to backup everything in my phone. Ideally with all the filesystem and directory intact. So finding my pictures and music would be easy in the future when I need them.
I am not sure how to proceed from here. I did a lot of research and digging on my end but didn't found any solution to this.
Thank you for your time.
You backup critical data and apps like Poweramp that allow backup files.
Form a complete plan for backing up all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Mind what needs to be backed up before you need it like contacts, bookmarks and so on, develop a plan that works.
Copy/paste folders to the PC. Check folder count and data size against original. Check that the data is readable. Never compress or clone media files/databases and never encrypt backup data drives. Backup often or risk losing the new data.
Never really on SmartSwitch or any app as a stand alone solution to backup critical data!!!
They can fail miserably.
Lol, my N10+'s backup is close to 400gb, I use the SD card as a data drive then redundantly back it up. My N10's can be fully reloaded using the SD card.
ColorNote can open hyperlinks directly from the app, can auto backup to the SD card or cloud; I use it for bookmarks and more.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all apps, updates and as backups. Install directly from those copies, no Playstore needed.
smart switch is probably the best you can get plus they do local backups
luridphantom said:
smart switch is probably the best you can get plus they do local backups
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Not suitable for stand alone critical data backup.
Once you lose or corrupt a database, it's gone forever... can you handle that?
blackhawk said:
Not suitable for stand alone critical data backup.
Once you lose or corrupt a database, it's gone forever... can you handle that?
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his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
luridphantom said:
his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
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Be nice if that works... could that help this person?
luridphantom said:
his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
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blackhawk said:
You backup critical data and apps like Poweramp that allow backup files.
Form a complete plan for backing up all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Mind what needs to be backed up before you need it like contacts, bookmarks and so on, develop a plan that works.
Copy/paste folders to the PC. Check folder count and data size against original. Check that the data is readable. Never compress or clone media files/databases and never encrypt backup data drives. Backup often or risk losing the new data.
Never really on SmartSwitch or any app as a stand alone solution to backup critical data!!!
They can fail miserably.
Lol, my N10+'s backup is close to 400gb, I use the SD card as a data drive then redundantly back it up. My N10's can be fully reloaded using the SD card.
ColorNote can open hyperlinks directly from the app, can auto backup to the SD card or cloud; I use it for bookmarks and more.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all apps, updates and as backups. Install directly from those copies, no Playstore needed.
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Thank you very much guys. I will try those things.+
Before I do that tho. I need to fix the TWRP probem.
Can you elaborate on the problem with the dm-verity? I didn't changed the bootloader or tried flashing roms or anything.
I need to access the phone for the backup. But I don't know what to look for.
Looking dm-verity online gives me weird solutions such as flashing Magisk or unlocking the bootloader which obviously doesn't help because I don't want a root and need the data.
Creep Crusher said:
Thank you very much guys. I will try those things.+
Before I do that tho. I need to fix the TWRP probem.
Can you elaborate on the problem with the dm-verity? I didn't changed the bootloader or tried flashing roms or anything.
I need to access the phone for the backup. But I don't know what to look for.
Looking dm-verity online gives me weird solutions such as flashing Magisk or unlocking the bootloader which obviously doesn't help because I don't want a root and need the data.
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you dont have to do any more than restore your phone to the original version without erasing all your data. once thats done you can do whatever you want to backup. look up odin, download mode, and see if you can find out what build your phone is
blackhawk said:
You backup critical data and apps like Poweramp that allow backup files.
Form a complete plan for backing up all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Mind what needs to be backed up before you need it like contacts, bookmarks and so on, develop a plan that works.
Copy/paste folders to the PC. Check folder count and data size against original. Check that the data is readable. Never compress or clone media files/databases and never encrypt backup data drives. Backup often or risk losing the new data.
Never really on SmartSwitch or any app as a stand alone solution to backup critical data!!!
They can fail miserably.
Lol, my N10+'s backup is close to 400gb, I use the SD card as a data drive then redundantly back it up. My N10's can be fully reloaded using the SD card.
ColorNote can open hyperlinks directly from the app, can auto backup to the SD card or cloud; I use it for bookmarks and more.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all apps, updates and as backups. Install directly from those copies, no Playstore needed.
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his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
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you dont have to do any more than restore your phone to the original version without erasing all your data. once thats done you can do whatever you want to backup. look up odin, download mode, and see if you can find out what build your phone is
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Thank you very much guys!
I was able to restore my phone by flashing the stock rom with Frija and Odin.
I even downloaded the newest version with Frija because I couldn't manage to find my exact current version. And it worked very well.
For the backup I did as you said and used APK Export for the apps. Its such a great app, I wish I knew about it sooner.
To transfer all the files and media to my PC I used a micro sd card reader for my sd card contents.
For the internal storage I tried using FTP and it was much better then I expected. It is kinda sad that using Wifi to transfer so much files is so much faster and stable then a direct USB connection. Its really baffling. But anyway.
Transferring the data was pretty smooth. Worked much better then ADB pull.
Thanks you again guys and I hope people having trouble would be able to find this thread helpful.