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Blue Angel Vs Ipod

I was just curious about the sound quality of the Blue Angel. Many say that the Blue Angel's sound quality is very poor, when compared with Ipod. Please give your opinions and give suggetions to improve the sound quality of Blue Angel.

I am happy to listen mp3 on ba

BA can sound awesome. It is all in the headphones ou use. The vanilla headphones which come with it are average to good, but not great.
if you want GOOD sound, you have 3 options:
1) go to ebay and find an adapter to use headphones with standard plugs in the BA, as the BA has this special phone plug which is smaller. I have one of these adapters, it also comes with a button to initiate and terminate phone calls.
2) go to ebay and get yourself a blueclip, which is a bluetooth 'headset' without phones. you can plug whichever headphone (with a standard jack) you want in this one.
3) get a good stereo bluetooth headset.
1) and 2) are cheaper than 3), but require a wired headphone. The good on them is that you can choose a GOOD headphone (the ones which cost more than $10) to couple with the adapter. Depending on the headphone you choose, you might spend as much as in 3), but you will get the best possible sound going this way.

or do what i did and open up the inline controls/mic on the vanilla one, desolder the crap buds and solder on the buds from a decent set (i used some panasonic ones) amazing sound quality, beats any ipod/mp3 ive tried.

BA sounds great its a question of the sampling of the mp3

The sound of the BA is actually fairly decent (even without headphones). But I will agree with Midget and BrazilianJoe. The better your headset, the better the sound quality.

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Its very great idea to improve the Blue Angel's sound quality rather than going for Ipod. I'm on it thank you every one for your suggetions.

well, if you use the DSP ported from an ipaq, you can actually increase the bass and treble levels, which provides amazing sound even on the default pair of earphones
I have included it..just unzip it and use file explorer to put it somewhere(somewhere in the start menu)

I unzipped ur dsp and man the sound is awesome!! thanks Kamal.any more tweeks like this for enhancing the display?
thanks a million.
mukund

I think both the sound quality of them are poor. To improve the sound quality,you can buy a good headphone,such as Shure E2C or B&O A8,and download FLAC instead of MP3s.FLAC has a high quality,you can play it with PocketPlayer.
I prefer some MP3 players which have high sound quality or Hi-MD player to iPod.Like iAudio,iRiver and Kenwood,these brands' MP3 players have better sound quality.
BTW,you have to buy an adapter if you want to buy a good headphone.

i use pocket music(work like win amp).
but still use the dsp..
thanks

yinfo said:
I think both the sound quality of them are poor. To improve the sound quality,you can buy a good headphone,such as Shure E2C or B&O A8,and download FLAC instead of MP3s.FLAC has a high quality,you can play it with PocketPlayer.
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FLAC is a bit extreme; the amplifier in the phone blows goats and is very poor quality. Anything above mp3 160kbps is a waste on this phone IMHO. Most people cannot tell the difference between 160kbps on a blind sound test using decompressed tracks on CD. I can, but only on a decent system which the Blue Angel aint! ;-)
(iPod's sound is pretty poor as well however)

Thanks
Thank you kdskamal this works great!

By Far
The BA is by far a better choice vs the iPod.
Like the others have said, quality will depend on how the file was encoded and the hardware used to listen to the output.
Its my:
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Tasks, appointment, calendar, contacts, notes
PDF Viewer
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Excel, Word, Powerpoint
AIM, Sype, MSM
with WiFi, BT, and IR
All with voice recognition.
So far beyond what the ipod is: Phone, MP3 player, and PDA in one.

BA vs Ipod? why not make BA as your ipod
I agree from above statement that BA functions covers all the ipod function and in addition to that why not make your BA looks more like ipdod when playing your favorite mp3. I have attached a skin for the window media player to make it looks like ipod. just unzip it to the windows media player skin folder then change the skin at the skin choosr option.
I am not quite good in testing sound quality but I am using ordinary earphone on my BA. The origina earphones of my BA was already broken and the sound quality is drasticaly ugly. So I cut the wires, throw the ear piece and mic and just used its 2.5 mm male jack and attach it to a 3.5 mm female jack so I can use high quality ear phone made by Sony or any other good manufacturers.
I have tried buying those ready made adopter 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm jack for PDA's, it does'nt work for the BA. Because BA's configuration is similar with nokia phone. So if your planning to buy a ready made adopter so you can use your existing head sets try to get those nokia compatible.

apple should stick to software
fraser said:
FLAC is a bit extreme; the amplifier in the phone blows goats and is very poor quality. Anything above mp3 160kbps is a waste on this phone IMHO. Most people cannot tell the difference between 160kbps on a blind sound test using decompressed tracks on CD. I can, but only on a decent system which the Blue Angel aint! ;-)
(iPod's sound is pretty poor as well however)
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Macintels benchmark OS_X faster than true macs!
Apple is way over-priced everyone knows that, so much money for such entry level hardware. I think we all know Apple cuts corners just like M$.. who the heck would buy a $300 ipod just to listen to music or, when you can buy a great PPC/smartphone for less, that does everything besides go down on you!
If apple made a true ppc though i'd try it too bad they'd charge like $500 for something that resembles a bar of soap with a screen.
Steven ballmer said it best... "I, love, this...company!" haha
developers, developers, developers, developers!

let's not forget that ipod probably has Digital Right Management system in place, while TCMP on BA will piss on DRM and its owners.

starik said:
let's not forget that ipod probably has Digital Right Management system in place
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The correct term is "Digital Restrictions Management". It has nothing to do with your rights other than taking them away. Please encorage people to use the correct term instead of the double-think marketing lingo.

Kalonian said:
Thank you kdskamal this works great!
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Wow! Thanks everybody )

kdskamal said:
well, if you use the DSP ported from an ipaq, you can actually increase the bass and treble levels, which provides amazing sound even on the default pair of earphones
I have included it..just unzip it and use file explorer to put it somewhere(somewhere in the start menu)
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Have you another version? Doesn't work on hX4705 WM 6 rev 4

Poor sound quality

Hey all
About a week ago my Galaxy S was stolen at a festival, so yesterday I bought myself a second hand O2X. I like it a lot even though there's no stable ICS rom available as of now.
The only thing I dislike about the phone is the fact that it's speaker quality (the bottom one for music/video) is so horribly bad compared to the Galaxy S. Especially when you realize that they advertise this phone as Dolby Mobile capable. It's just so quiet and weak and it does not seem to pronounce any bass or treble correctly.
So I'm asking you O2X users: is there some sort of tweak available that brings out the real power of that speaker?
Running CM7 2.3.7 btw. Thanks!

The speaker itself won't be loud nor specialy good but you can try to flash a kernel with voodoo sound (fe ETaNa's kernel).

he is talking about the SPEAKER sound. voodoo only alters the volume of headphone output.
yeah, its a gripe that the speaker is so quiet, but it actually is a really high quality speaker, only not used to full potential.
what most people do is use the dsp manager app to crank up the freq's at the speaker graphic eq. adds distortion, but what ya gonna do.
f**k LG's "devs"
edit: dolby mobile is pure crap, which works only in original music and video app AND also only works for headphones. (it friggin distorts the bass a lot, i hated it. power amp way better)

Which rom has the best sound for you?

I mean for both music Via External Speaker and Via Headphones.
Some roms i think have a Very low Speaker Output, we got one of the few smartphones with real stereo speakers and they have incredible well.... Low Volume

I think CM10.1 has very good sound, you have DSP Manager, which is a equalizer app for CM. You can either choose presets or do it yourself. You also have a bass and treble booster.
If you have decent headphones or earphones, you can really experience it.
Hope this answers your question
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Darkmind82 said:
I mean for both music Via External Speaker and Via Headphones.
Some roms i think have a Very low Speaker Output, we got one of the few smartphones with real stereo speakers and they have incredible well.... Low Volume
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I really doubt that with have stereo speakers in the 2x, the sound levels are still mid to low though.

AW: Which rom has the best sound for you?
sysex said:
I really doubt that with have stereo speakers in the 2x, the sound levels are still mid to low though.
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Stereo means left and tight channel my friend thats not 3 way os realy clear. But i had a motorola defy and the sound of the phone speaker were outstanding and in a realy good volume
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Temasek's CM7+vadonka's eTana kernel sounds best.
As supercurio said before,cm10/4.04official has changed the audio sampling rate to 48kHz which leads to poor SRC and poor audio quality which is important to me as daily players.I remember that Vadonka once could change his sample rate of his CM7 kernel,but the dev seem haven't found the way to change the sampling rate on CM10/4.04.Glad that someone raised the question as the sound quality is the only thing stopping me from using ics.
It would be great if someone is going to fix it.
Also,supercurio has seemingly lost his interest in continuing voodoo for 2x either for new Kaudio driver or support of ics.Can it be ported to a flashable zip?Big Thanks for it.
I use the 2x as my daily music driver with TF10.

With any rom that suports voodoo sound...

supercurio seems that is not going to bring us their implementation of Voodoo in CM10 and above : (

we never really even had voodoo sound, in our version only the amplifier controll worked, which is more like voodoo loud..
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AW: Which rom has the best sound for you?
Is anyone on tweetypeeks Chuck Norris rom? Read he managed beats audio libs on his cm 7.2 rom. Ironically I knew him as a dev from the defy forum
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Darkmind82 said:
Stereo means left and tight channel my friend thats not 3 way os realy clear. But i had a motorola defy and the sound of the phone speaker were outstanding and in a realy good volume
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda premium
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O2x has only 1 main speaker out n that's called mono.
I wouldn't mind that if it wasn't so weak and distorted at high (cough)
volumes.
FWIW mind you no software tweak can do any major difference to a small speaker like
this phone has. Of course nothing stops you to use an external sound system, that's
were software can do magick in the limits of course of the D/A conv. the O2x has to
offer, which is not that bad actually.
You can use the hdmi to bypass the D/A converter or even bluetooth anytime of the day though...

what you talking about there is 2 speakers, and the hp jack 3.5mm is stereo also

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sysex said:
O2x has only 1 main speaker out n that's called mono.
I wouldn't mind that if it wasn't so weak and distorted at high (cough)
volumes.
FWIW mind you no software tweak can do any major difference to a small speaker like
this phone has. Of course nothing stops you to use an external sound system, that's
were software can do magick in the limits of course of the D/A conv. the O2x has to
offer, which is not that bad actually.
You can use the hdmi to bypass the D/A converter or even bluetooth anytime of the day though...
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If you kindly tilt your phone. - i suggest you got a lg p 990 not su 660. - there will magically appear 2 - in words two - speakers to the left and right of your micro USB jack... further no need to say that the tech specs if you check them online clearly say "stereo speakers"
For further notice size doesn't matter.
But it shows that you have clearly no idea about actual audio technic and still think a speaker must be"this big" to do a good sound work.
That don't need BTW that I think this speakers are spectacular or something. But I think they got more potential...
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Darkmind82 said:
If you kindly tilt your phone. - i suggest you got a lg p 990 not su 660. - there will magically appear 2 - in words two - speakers to the left and right of your micro USB jack... further no need to say that the tech specs if you check them online clearly say "stereo speakers"
For further notice size doesn't matter.
But it shows that you have clearly no idea about actual audio technic and still think a speaker must be"this big" to do a good sound work.
That don't need BTW that I think this speakers are spectacular or something. But I think they got more potential...
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I don't think so. As i know, p990 has just one speaker, another one is just micro (which looks like second speaker).
About sound quality. I use dual boot with old boot just for voodoo sound. 1 rom is wiui with etana kernel which supports voodoo. I am using this rom only for music and second pa build4. We have a lot cm 10, 10.1 for old boot and i think it's enough for those people who really needs them and voodoo.

Darkmind82 said:
If you kindly tilt your phone. - i suggest you got a lg p 990 not su 660. - there will magically appear 2 - in words two - speakers to the left and right of your micro USB jack... further no need to say that the tech specs if you check them online clearly say "stereo speakers"
For further notice size doesn't matter.
But it shows that you have clearly no idea about actual audio technic and still think a speaker must be"this big" to do a good sound work.
That don't need BTW that I think this speakers are spectacular or something. But I think they got more potential...
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Size in speakers is very crucial as it defines the lowest frequency it can reproduce.
I don't want to get more technical about it but the bigger the speaker is, the lowest can get frequency wise.
As for all the other stuff I stand to my previous post.
If you don't mind, being cocksure about stuff is ridiculous in my book.
The speakers (ear speaker + main speaker)in p990 is low quality, the audio output has nothing to do with the speaker if this is ok with you that is.
Good luck.

but saying its mono is just wrong

Why? It's not stereo and it sums to mono...
How do you call that? Anyway...

R0B3RTF1SH3R said:
but saying its mono is just wrong
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but saying but saying its mono is just wrong is just wrong
P.S.: if you don't get the meaning of that re-read and re-think about this sentence. It does totally make sense

cm 10.1 is loud but not that gud.
i use stock rom with philips app and earphone which make very gud sound output never hear before even on voodoo sound
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yes your right, it very well could be summed mono, however. there is 2 speakers right? so its still stereo. L (L+R) R (R+L) or whatever phase

R0B3RTF1SH3R said:
yes your right, it very well could be summed mono, however. there is 2 speakers right? so its still stereo. L (L+R) R (R+L) or whatever phase
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Well if you read the post than you would have read that the so appeared second speacer is just the mic what appers as a speaker due it´s looks. I googled it and only a German site labled it falsely as Stereo speakers.
So this is realy akward that a phone life MOTO Defy has so much better and louder audio quallity in phone speaker and headphone sound.
I´m a real adiophile and i suggesting to get another phone just because the poor audio quality :crying:

[Q] Beats audio sound quality question

I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.

It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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bornotty said:
There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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jdgreat4 said:
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?

imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.

dladz said:
AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
dladz said:
Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?

Timmyfoxeh said:
Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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dladz said:
Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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Xerro-Five said:
We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Xerro-Five said:
Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Xerro-Five said:
Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus

LG Quad DAC Tips, Tricks, Etc...

Howdy All,
For those who have had a LG V device in the past you'all know what's coming - how do we trick the quad DAC into high impedance mode (HIM) or AUX mode?
For those who don't know here's a little background. The previous LG V series phones have had a very nice DAC and AMP setup which can almost meet the standards of audiophile quality. The thing was that in the later phones (V20 and V30 AFAIR) the software was designed to "smart switch" which mode the AMP was in. HIM and AUX mode settings had the loudest volumes and was corresponding to the headphone impedance value. The normal setting had the lowest volume designed for low impedance IEMs. Note that the AMP setting doesn't really have a bearing on sound QUALITY, just sound VOLUME. I'm guessing but the reasoning for this is to prevent blown IEMs and blown eardrums. I'm going to find the link for the old V30 quad DAC thread and some stuff tried and what worked in order to activate AUX mode and/or HIM. BTW having ROOT on the phone allows for adjusting this setting as needed, which is why I went with the unlocked version this time around. My pair of MrSpeakers Aeon Flows have low impedance but need power in order to drive properly and the AMP in the V series phones would only trigger normal impedance mode.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/modes-quad-dac-t3690567
So that brings us to the V40. Does it have a quad DAC? Yes it does. Does it have a smart switching AMP? So far my indications are yes it does. Do the old tricks from the V30 days work on the V40? I don't think that they do. I have multiple extension cables, which I use for triggering the AUX mode as well as an impedance adapter (50ohms I think). The old methods of using the extension cable, the adapter, and both don't seem to have an effect on the AMP setting. My Sony MDR-1As are much louder than my Aeon Flows...bummer for me.
UPDATE - Upon further testing with the help of this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apptrio.hi_fi_status I was able to trigger the AUX AMP mode and it kicked up the volume on my Sony's quite a bit! Unfortunately when I triggered HIM the volume of the sound did not change from the normal mode. Basically what I did was take a 2ft 3.5mm cable extension (male on one side female on the other) and plug it in WITHOUT THE HEADPHONE CABLE ATTACHED. Once the HIFI status app displayed AUX mode I then plugged in my HPs and BOOM, here comes the volume!
Anyways if you have anything to add or have any questions feel free to hit us up. When root is available I'll also make updates to this thread if need be.
Have a good one :highfive:

Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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Fabio0716 said:
Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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If you have your volume go up to 75 and it doesn't blow out your ears then it is due to the AMP being in normal mode.

I just say one thing:
Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!

nyttliv7 said:
Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!
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Have you tried the mobile version of foobar2000? As it's the preferred app for FLAC files and such on the PC, I imagine the mobile version is quite good as well. I wonder how it compares to Neutron Player. I definitely will give both a shot and compare.
On the note of music players, despite making fun of it (it's quite easy to do) and being certain it would fail, I recently converted to Tidal. The quality is really astounding, and the music library is almost as complete as Spotify/etc. Additionally, some albums are available as "masters" that are actually encoded with MQA!

Your right about Tidal. It sounds awesome. The price difference isn't worth it though.

Treesap! I'm comparing those players right now! I'm listening to metal (Tesseract), jazz (Yellowjackets), all flac, and so far I like both foobar2000 and Neutron. The built in player is not satisfying me yet, except for mp3 (I See Stars - Treehouse). Does anyone know if it's necessary to disable the built in effects to make other players work independently? That's what I did with v20. Just remember how different expectations and taste we all have in regards to music/sound
And maybe I should add that I'm just a regular user (with high demand on sound quality), who can't afford too fancy earbuds or extras right now. Any advice regarding good quality sound (budget price) earbuds would be very appreciated

Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/

nyttliv7 said:
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/

Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?

wwyjoe said:
Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?
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Well I'm sure there's some tech guys here who can give us the correct details, but for me the answer is yes! After tuning it up for my ears, the Poweramp does it in a perfect way. If I play mp3 or flac it's giving me perfect sound all over, compared to the lg app were I had to tune it up for individual files.

have any of you engaged the DAC for streaming, for Google music in particular?
there was mention by some last year that one DAC player and an add-on app could do that for Google music. i just don't keep much on my phone and streaming is my way, so I'm still looking at taking advantage where i can. I'm running V4A on a rooted V30 now and looking at the V40's development.

nyttliv7 said:
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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Poweramp improving and improving
(Poweramp-v3-build-805-uni)

I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's

nyttliv7 said:
So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.

Japultra said:
What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Hope the following can help, and also, please correct me anyone, if my way of thinking here is some way wrong or misleading.
A assume you've already taken part of the Poweramp forum?! It's the only way to get the hi-res add-ons. And you obviously have to log in to be able to download.
I'm not 100% sure about how poweramp and the built in eq interacts, but after fiddling for a bit, it seams like what I'm sharing here works best when it comes to volume and sound. Have in mind our individual reference of sound and of course, what kind of earphones/buds you have (this is based on flac files).
You can see I've put replay gain on max in Poweramp settings. You can easily change RG in the eq later to fit individual album.
If anyone else have suggestions, please don't be shy
https://forum.powerampapp.com/files/file/37-poweramp-v3-build-807-uniapk/

Japultra said:
What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Here's the rest:

ps3hacker3 said:
I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's
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I put details in the first post. Maybe you missed it?
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Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.

mtmdatlanta said:
Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.
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I had the V30+ what's "MQA"?